Truck Update - Ram Transmissions - Old Vs New - Chevy vs Dodge vs Ford
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2022
- 2022 Ram 2500 transmission issue, leaking window, and check engine light on and. dodge vs chevy vs ford
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Your truck-buying story sounds like the testimony of someone who is giving courtroom testimony about how he was robbed at gunpoint while trying to buy a hotdog. That's not too far off! It is a disgrace that purchasing a truck is a traumatizing experience for which you end up paying for years. Then your transmission goes out and you are given the runaround again. This is not a Ram thing, a Ford thing, or a Chevy thing. The automobile industry is completely out of control. Hope it all works out.
My dealer says I have to leave the truck with them 12 weeks. 12 weeks…before they can even look at it. No loaners. Not even a used neon or caravan. Screw that. I’m upgrading the shit out of my truck as I go.
Had ford extended warrenty...... cam went out while living in Minnesota had it fixed by Ford...moved to Florida a month later..oil blowing out around trimming cover took it to Ford...District Overseer for Ford..said the Ford dealership in Minnesota would have to pay the Florida dealership for the repairs ...like Minnesota could careless..Never a Ford man again and they couldn't care cost me $2,300..Tenvoorde Ford..St.cloud Minnesota 1996...Just bought another Ram Longhorn Loaded ..don't be fooled with loyalty
Boring
I'd get my attorney involved
The latest trend I see with manufacturers is making the customers pay a subscription for features already built into their vehicles like bruh we already paid for the feature to be in the vehicle. Why make someone pay extra just to make it function I honestly fear that they’re gonna go above and beyond to make their customers pay them bullshit money that everything from heated seats to just being able to unlock the car is going to require a subscription fee at that point I’ll just ride a horse because those will never require a subscription
Watching your video convinced me to not give up my 98 5.9 12valve with a 5 speed, way to many things to go wrong on the new trucks. Thanks for making an honest video.
Thanks for watching
Scotty Kilmer CZcams mechanic. Email him and maybe he can help you he has definitely helped me. Plus now days people don't care what they sell you new or used it's all about the money.
92 F350 7.3 with 3 donor trucks bought from Craigslist for under $600/ea. 🤩🤩
90s trucks are the best
Since the truck is practically new, they should have just put in a new transmission and then have someone fix the bad one later on so you aren't inconvenienced further.
Dodge is going to do what is least expensive for Dodge. If they could some how not fix it at all that's what they would do. I have relatives that always buy new vehicles and that is what they come up aganist. The dealer simply says "we can't fix it".
@@darlenegeorgeboyd8493 Bull
All dealers are full of crap. The energy they have to sell you the car or truck they should be the same energy to help you when they break down.
Same thing happened to me. I had other trucks to drive but there was no way I was going to drive them when my truck sat at the dealership waiting to be fixed. I told them I needed a truck to drive until mine was fixed and they said no way. I called a lawyer and went in and talked to him. 2 day's later I got a call from a man from that company and I told him what was going on. Not only did I get a truck to drive but they extended my warranty. I had the loaner for 3 week's and before I took it back to pick up my truck I cleaned it up just like it looked when I got it and filled up the tank. When the said dealer owner came out he was impressed on the way I returned it and the full tank. This was the same man I had previously went toe to toe with.One week later the service manager called and asked if all was good. I still buy from these guy's but they just needed a little help in seeing things clearly and sometimes a lawyer is needed to help them see the right path.
I'm gonna save everyone 30 minutes of BS here. His truck broke, it was fixed under warranty. End of story.
Haha! I'm about 6 minutes in and I just wanted to know what his truck's issue was!
Hahahahhahha🙈
Nice
Best comment!
Thank you
Brock, your videos are honest and sincere. I have had 5 Ram HD trucks. No trans issues and two with the same water leak issues. Easy fixes. My 2017 Ram went 85,000 miles on its original brakes. Excellent trucks. Currently Have the 2021 Ram 2500 Cummins midnight edition.
I like this guy's attitude + patience, hope he gets the issue taken care of.
None of you get it. They are forcing you to go electric.
@@Bob-mm7ooI'd believe it..
@yourdad-nv5ie 6.9 and 7.3 international diesel here, bro. If need be I'll fill the tank with this florida palm oil. Fk these globalist jews.
@yourdad-nv5ie me too..
The scary part is when looking at a $20k p.o.s. starts making sense to you. I we can call this a lose/lose situation…
LOVE YOUR HONESTY... We've all had buyer's regret but keep plugging along and doing things the right way, it will work out. Good guys always win, even if you make a wrong turn every now and then.
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Brock, you are a good story teller. When i saw that this video was over 30 minutes long, I thought I'd just skip through it and see what you did. But I watched the whole thing. It is a complicated problem you have. There are a lot of jerks out there who will call you an idiot, without knowing the whole story. You are doing the best you can with the hand you have been dealt. Good luck brother! Cheers!
I increase the playback speed to 1.5 , took me a while to get used to 1.5 speed, but now I watch everything at 1.5 speed 😀
Thanks for the feedback
@@stump-bossBIll I watch most videos at 2x, if I can. That means I can watch twice as much. Lol
I watch almost everything at 1.75 and I try for 2x. Huge time saver.
sure most car owners put up with this crap from dealer at least once.got your money now piss off.
After watching both of your truck videos, boy am I glad I've kept my 87 f150 4x4 4sp 4.9 sb running for 20 years. To move across Texas hauling a 18' med duty flatbed I bought a running 93 f350 7.3 4dr 4x4 in 2016 for $2500 with 240k miles. Spent 2k in parts repairing it and made 13 600 mi. heavy trips to east Texas. I feel these are the 2 best trucks ever built. Good luck with your truck. I turn down offers to buy mine all the time. There is a difference between wearing out and failing, I think the new ones are way too complicated. I don't need or want 7 computers just to control the drivers seat. Stay safe, stay prepped. GOD BLESS GOD SPEED GOD WINS.
I can totally relate to your experience and it’s not easy dealing with vehicles, hopefully after your trans gets repaired it will just end up being a good truck for you 👍🏻
As a Ford guy I would say don't give up on your truck too soon. Every brand out there has breakdowns in one way or another. I personally have had good luck wth the Fords I have owned but that doesn't mean your story would be the same. Hopefully they will repair your transmission and this will be the only issue you have with it.
Smoked a Ram in my F150 on my way home from work today. Hell yeah brother.
Yeah, between my Triton and Coyote and the transmissions, I've had great experience with my Fords, but like you say, every manuf has their issues. I did have a issue in which Ford had an "input shaft sensor" issue, Ford hadn't put the recall out, so I had another trans shop do the work. After the recall came out, I gave Ford the receipt and they reimbursed me the whole amount, no other questions asked.
I bought a 2021 F350 exactly a year ago today and the build quality is terrible. I'm not brand loyal and it's my first new Ford. Maybe there's something to these COVID built trucks. Just garbage build quality on mine.
@@magnum74smith58 Yeah, I do think manufacturers are just trying to get product to market at any cost in some scenarios, that's not an excuse but I do believe that is what is happening on some levels.
I moved to Ram in 2003 after having a couple of bad Fords (1999 and 2000). After 20 years I am going to give Ford another try. If I could get a Ram pickup with the wide track front end, a megacab and an 8' bed I would have considered it. The dealer is telling me 4 to 6 months for my F450 order.
Dodge needs to back their product better and just replace the entire transmission, take the faulty one back and then spend their own time trying to diagnose the exact issue after taking it apart. They should not put that on the dealer and in turn inconvenience the customer. They should understand that people spend their hard earned money on their trucks and that people buy these trucks to do their work and run their businesses. Best of luck to you man!
At least they are fixing it under warranty. That's more than Ford or Chevy usually does
Stellantis is Peugeot not Fiat!
Gm is no better my transmission went out at 75k miles
@@angrybastard7364 How's your Hugo holding up?
Dodge don't give a sh*t, even for their premium customers.
As a previous service advisor I understand there are steps that they need to take with regards to the warranty on that transmission but quite honestly 84,000 later in a vehicle with that much potential in the mere fact that it could practically ruin Dodge they need to act. That's not an $18,000 Dodge car that's a $80,000 plus dollar truck. The very heartbeat of everything that Dodge stands for when competing against people like Ford and Chevrolet. I feel for you brother because I can tell that you're a man that just wants to make an honest living and clearly require vehicle of that caliber to get the job done. I would seriously consider talking to a lawyer about your losses especially your daily losses of not having that vehicle available to you. Dodge immediately should have given you an equal value truck to get your work done while they fold their hands look around and whistle until a good idea comes into their head about what to do about your transmission. These are things that Dodge corporate wants to know about especially if you feel like the dealership is just sitting on it because they personally don't want to take the loss. This has nothing to do with their loss and everything to do with how much you've invested. I would definitely take a look at legal action to cover your backside especially when it comes to your financial losses during this time. I no longer work at the dealership that I used to work at and it's really not a bad thing because I ran into this type of stuff all the time as a service advisor. When these types of things came into my area of responsibility I was given a hard time for trying to do the very best that I could to take care of my customers. I absolutely hated that because I see a situation like yours as something that needs to be dealt with and dealt with quickly. Good luck my friend and God bless. PS who gives a rat's butt about all the comments that people put on here that are stupid. You have no responsibility to the fluid or anything else when a situation like that comes up. Yes it would have been a good idea to check those things but when you're talking about a 2022 truck the last thing that you should have to worry about a ride away in a situation like that is transmission fluid they probably doesn't need to be changed for upwards of 80 to 100,000 miles. Stay strong my friend
No tranny last 100k no fluid change. Stop thinking you know something.. 30k doesn't matter what the dealership says.. 30k .. simpleton..
I used to have a Chevy van. Every time I took it back for a problem they tried to tell me it was normal. Because of that I never bought another Chevy and never will. It’s been 30 years. To me service is most important.
It's a Fiat. They killed Chrysler.
@@mikecarr1484 couldn't agree more! If the fluid can be changed, and can on most cars, change it!! Cheap and stupid easy on both my Hondas. At least every 30K. And if you think you are going to change it for the first time at 100k? Good luck with that. Tranny will likely fail shortly after.
Much respect for your transparency in what is a challenging situation. I was a employee at 2 different landscape companies for 10 years combined, the installation trucks were always, ford f350 450 and 650 with dump beds bare bone XL trim levels, just vinyl interior but still very comfortable. Only time had break down were trailer tires would blow occasionally under skid steers. Hope you get your truck running soon.
Thanks
@@RockhillfarmYT I'm glad they fixed your truck so that you can stop whining.
Don’t worry what others say about buying a vehicle that is a higher trim level. You work hard and if you want something you have worked to get it so be proud! Appreciate you sharing your experience and hopefully Ram steps up. They should.
To be fair. Dodge hasn't put a decent automatic transmission in a diesel truck for many many decades. However it does prove a point that new just means shiny not trouble free.
You are just repeating crap your pothead beer buddies told you. to be fair Chevy hasn't put a decent engine in a truck for several decades and Ford hasn't made any decent trucks in a couple decades...so where are we at here Forest??? Been hearing about the Dodge trans thing since the 90's and that is when they had an issue with them for like 2 years. But still hearing about it. RAM uses auto trans build by Rolls Royce in the half tons not sure about the HD units. Best in the business now. But lets just spread teenage bullshit gabbing social media crap on Y/T videos too. Your initials speak for themselves...B ull S hit
Good comment and the existing one reply is shadowed/invisible.
They were quick enough to take your money not to quick to reper
The ones that have the Aisin transmission is good.
@@atx-cvpi_99 👍
You have the classic “consumerism”. They got you with commercials and the fear of missing out. I now have two trucks that are twenty years old and I smile all day long even when fixing one and driving the other. 7.3 diesel for the 🏆
There is some truth in that but also it’s a lot easier to get one new truck than it is to get to old trucks.
0% financing all day long or having that much cash and as I mentioned in the follow up video old diesels are $25,000 in this crazy market so if you’re just starting into a business that requires heavier hauling you can’t just go buy two old diesels
@@RockhillfarmYT I’m a mine manager at a coal mine and we run rams for the company and have nothing but trouble with them. I personally run a tree service on the side and have two 7.3’s and have been very good to me. Best part is that the older trucks just need a shade tree and you tube videos to fix.
Keep it going. Your thoughts and opinions are on point. I really like how you get your point accross without putting down another user group. You use proper information and proper view points. That is what brings more people over to your cause.. guys like me who sit on the fringe of things.
Thanks for your honesty Brock. I really hope it all works out for you. The haters all think that every decision is made with pure logic. We are human and there is always emotion involved.
My motto: Pickups are for pleasure, hauling horses, grabbing a few pieces of lumber or other lighter duty chores. If I do commercial work, I buy a commercial truck. Still driving the same commercial truck for 29 years and still going strong. BTW, I paid 18k plus the bed for it back in 1993. Finally did my first repair a month ago. Changed out a loose tie rod end.
Who is the MNFCTR? Big3 ?
@@ems9297 prob a ISUZU
What is it??
@@SIC-SEMPER-TYRANNIS 1993 Mitsubishi Fuso FG 4x4. Love this truck. Not bashing anyone else's truck, just my experience with PU's. I recently sold my 93 Cummins 4x4 as I went out of the horse business. It was a beauty. Drove it for 18 years. Got way more for it than what I paid for it. My Fuso has 31 ft of tool boxes and extra fuel tanks (2) for dyed diesel for the skidsteer. My ol' Dodge would not have worked for that scenario. But the Dodge had more power and a pleasure PU. So, different trucks for different purposes. Best regards to all!
Govdeals --> "Over 1 ton" --> sort by description, older first. Mechanical injection, manual trans.
Love the honesty in this video!
Thanks SO much for sharing your experience. I'm very sorry you have to deal with this!
Guy who assembled the transmission probably was hungover on a monday
His story is real! I just bought a new heavy duty and some of these things are what I went through. High used truck prices and no on the lot inventory. I bought a Chevy 2500 due to the long time transmission issues that Ram has had. But I also understand that all of these HD trucks have some type of draw back or issues. But I have noticed the GM makes it easier to just pick the needed options and still have things like leather, sunroof, and bucket seats without spending 75k-80k like Ram and Ford.
You know your thing a Duramax
Thank you for this information brother.Very few detail these journeys,especially in these times of inflation.I wish you the very best in you pursuits!!
Thanks for watching
I particularly liked your wife’s comment. “Will you be happy”. You got a good one there Mr Rockhill Farm. We pick up our 2023 3500 diesel bighorn on Monday Feb 19.
Hit the nail on the head when you said it’s not your problem to deal with. Even if you know 100 percent what’s wrong it’s still on the manufacturer. Had same comments about my 7.3 review video, truck smoked another transmission and I ended up getting rid of it. Was a hassle but 2 trans in 20k and still probs I had to move on. Thinking about filming a video explaining that process while I’m held up.
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Very interesting story Brock. Sucks they’re not taking better care of you. When I traded in my tacoma for a bigger truck I had no bias towards ford Chevy or dodge. I bought an F150 and can say without a doubt I am now a ford guy. I bought a 2016 2 years ago with 71,000 miles. I’ve now got 100,000 miles on it and haven’t had any problems. My next truck will be an F250 or F350 assuming nothing catastrophic happens
Right. I own a Tacoma and LOVE it, but it's not really a "work" truck - but I don't need a truck for that - just camping and a bit of adventuring in my retirement years, but have owned F150s in the past. I have no use for a full sized one now, but if I did, I'd probably go with Ford too, just based on their vast success with those work horses.
I own a 2nd gen Tacoma, been a great vehicle. I love it and it does what I need, however I admit it’s not the greatest for towing lots of material. I lean towards older vehicles in general, that’s why I like the 2015 Tacoma I have that is basic but reliable. The best trucks for towing in my opinion are the ones that were made 20 years ago, regardless of brand. I’d gladly own an 80s-early 2000s Ford, Chevy, or Dodge if I needed to tow more.
You know what? You are a good man. I appreciate that you are so transparent and honest. Stay focused on what you need vs. what you want. This advice is particularly acceptable in today's market.
Brock, your honesty is extremely evident in this video. I think most of us have made decisions, maybe influenced by emotion, that we later regretted. I would say the best course is to ride out the warranty process, and once your truck is fixed, just drive it for a while and then decide next steps. I assume rental options for diesel trucks are non-existent, but I would at least research it. Best of luck!
I feel your pain. I have been searching for months for a truck. People not in the market right now don’t understand the crazy stuff and prices. Went to a ram dealership in Houston and they increased the price $3000 from the window sticker when we started going over the numbers on the spot.
Another point to mention. I've been in the market for a 3/4 ton truck since before you bought your 2022. Unlike you, my use will not be to move big stuff with any regularity. Just very occasionally. I've looked at new and used. The thing that irks me is that dealership are selling 2-3 year old trucks out of warranty for 3k above original MSRP. Essentially, they are getting asking price twice for the same truck. I know the whole market place is totally upside down, but that ridiculous (IMHO). Good luck to you, Brock.
PS. THOSE ALL CAPS FOLKS ARE REALLY JERKS. 😉 I admire you for not taking all those comments as an affront your detailed thought processes.
I'm like you if I got something to say I'll mostly about the truck if there's something wrong with this new I'll let them know
I listened to this entire video as I was working on something else. Great explanations and thank you for doing so. About six months ago I spent $40 k for a Ram 1500, 4x4 and has a few/ some fancy things like a moonroof and such. It’s a 2020 and has 32k miles on it. I almost went for a 10 year old heavier duty… but the prices were not too far off. Going brand new to order was going to take about 6 months and with all manufacturers having quality control issues today… 2020 didn’t look all that bad to me. Once things settle down, I’ll likely go new but happy with what I have. Thanks again for the video.
Thanks for watching
Good well told story. I had a similar problem with my 16 Ram which I love. Push, pull click click at dealership it was only a wheel sensor. Happy Motoring!
If you haven’t already, look around on Craig’s list for single axle dump trucks. You may find something around 10,000 or 15000. It may be more than you’d like to spend but it can tow more and dump. Plus you can put farm tags on it save some money on insurance. 🤷♂️just a thought.
Brock!!!! listen to this guy. very good opinion on the issue and legit would help you in the long run.
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I’ll send you a donation for that truck as long as you send it back immediately because I need donations for one too lol!!!😆 I think you’re a good dude Brock. You’ll get through this just be business minded about your decision.
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@@lifeonmttammanyridge2565 text my number above
Scotty talked about this over on his channel with a Hyundai that had a bad transmission. They never want to change the housing on the transmission because you may have etched it to identify the fact that they never changed the transmission with a new one.
I have had a 1500 for 3 years now and absolutely love it! 32k and no problems. I do know people with 2500s and 3500s who have had tons of problems. The thing is today practically every vehicle has some type of problems and/or recalls. Its just the way it is these days. Thanks for the video!
The one thing you’re missing about the 3500, weather it’s a single wheel or a dually is that you can get the high output and that would give you the Aisin transmission. That’s a commercial tranny and would be a tougher transmission. For the weight you’re pulling you don’t necessarily need a dually but having the Aisin transmission would probably be a plus. Also, I’m betting that whatever is wrong with your brand new transmission is not a normal, every transmission problem.
@@mizzouxc3824 aisin are top quality transmissions.
Toyota has used Aisin
I swapped the crap Aisin for Allison and it is amazing
@@jaderhuff81 of course the Allison is definitely better!!
I've had some great Aisin transmissions in my time and experience. I have two vehicles now with them
I have 2022 3500 dully with aisin and I left last week with 4000 miles with same transmission problem to dealer, brand new truck, I have friend in Ohio we bought this 3500 with Aisin transmission, yesterday picked up his 2022 truck from TX same transmission problem. This trucks got some problems with transmission. With Aisin transmission
I have a brand new 2022 3500 Limited DRW with Aisen transmission. 1500 miles on it. Was towing my horse trailer with horses when my transmission failed 7 hours from home. I bought this truck due to
The reasons you cited! It has been in the shop almost 3 weeks with no action!!! Frustrating. I have no vehicle and need a truck to pull my
I’ve never had any thing good come out of a Ram warranty
I like their trucks but their willingness to stand behind them is less than par
My Ram diesel transmission failed under warranty and the dealership would only authorize torque converter replacement. They didn't even flush the transmission after the repair (said it wasn't authorized) just changed the converter and top-up the fluid. Friend at transmission shop says it's going to fail again and sure enough it blew again. It was and endless circle of frustration dealing with the service center. To prevent more down-time I had the automatic repaired/rebuilt at transmission shop with some aftermarket parts and it's been good ever since.
Ordered a limited exactly the way I wanted it. Took me 4 months to get mine. Love it.
This is one of the most honest videos I've ever seen on CZcams.
I probably wouldn't be the guy that this would happen to, but I have heard of trucks accidentally being left in drive and slipping into a pond, accidentally. Or accidentally a component catching fire and burning the truck up. I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I'm old enough to have heard some rumors.😂😂😂
Allegedly.... lol
Lol. nice
Sorry to hear about your truck. I bought a new superduty last year and had a few power steering leaks. I traded a 17 tundra on it and when I got rid of the ford I got another tundra. They're not as beefy as a 3/4 ton but they get the job done. I really want a 3/4 ton but I'm having a hard time leaving my trusty toyota brand.
I’m a Ram dealer tech and can kinda shed some light on this. All transmission claims are base level dealers require a tear down to point of failure. Chrysler requires a 70 percent sheet. If the cost of repairing the transmission is more than 70 percent of the cost Of a remanufactured transmission it gets replaced with a reman transmission. Transmissions are backordered and take months to arrive. Your water leak is most likely a sunroof drain that isn’t hooked up correctly or snapped off for whatever reason. It sucks this happened but you gotta remember that all cars are mass produced. All it takes is one small dot of debris to cause a reverse piston in an auto trans to leak causing a slipping clutch. It happens. That’s why they come with the warranty. If the dealer could get enough trucks they would help you out with a loaner. Also Dealers will bend over backwards to help a service customer that purchased the vehicle from them. If you bring the truck in for service at a different dealer than your selling dealer they might do the bare minimum to help you. Hope this helps shed some light on this for you. I’ve got buddies that work at Ford and Chevy dealers and their service departments are full of broken vehicles. So anybody that says this car doesn’t break or that car doesn’t break is full of shit. Hope this helps I know somebody on the internet will disagree but this is from my experience and I do it every day.
My brother is a Toyota tech, and He'll agree with you 100% , all manifactuers have F--king issues,
I definitely agree with you. I’m not a tech but I drive a GMC and a Mercedes. Luckily, in my town the GMC and Mercedes Benz dealer are the same.
That being said, all vehicles break, come with warranties and whenever I need anything my dealer is superior with customer service. That’s why I go there and my family has been going there for over 35 years.
Going to the dealer you purchased from is the best option. I felt bad for the service technician repairing my Yukon last month..he was nearly ashamed to tell me they didn’t have and couldn’t get the part from GM due to supply issues and had to use a NAPA part. I wasn’t upset and appreciated his hard work and honesty.
Brother I feel you. I have had 6 dodge rams with no problems until now. Also having issues with 4wd. Prayers.
my father dealt with dealerships his entire life, he was their suppler for their new stock, when my ram had issues last year they said they could not give me a vehicle, my father said they are required to, go in there and tell them its in the contract on new vehicles. so i went in and said i need a rental truck because i have work to do, they said no, i said its in the contract and you have to so figure it out, about an hour later i was in a truck no charge. we had fires burning all around our home and i was trying to move our stuff just in case otherwise i probably wouldn't have pushed them but after i called them out and realized they were lying to me i didn't feel one bit bad about it. A new truck is much different than an insurance situation. (i am 43 now and this was less than a year ago so i have been around a little while but it was news to me about it being in the contract) Dont let them yoink you around over $80,000 isnt a joke
I've got two older trucks that have served me well. I'll never own a new one at the insane prices they are now. I feel your pain on this issue and wish you well figuring out how to proceed.
Which trucks do you own, if you don’t mind my asking?
@@BetaBuxDelux I have a 2000 F350 and a 2003 Chevy 1500 currently.
Your narration is fantastic. Great facts based presentation. Good luck.
Watching on your video, I felt bad for you. You are a hard working man, you deserve better for your buck. I hope this situation gets solve for you. Good luck.
It's not just you brock, shit happens to every brand. Sometimes it comes down to luck. Have seen plenty of new rams with 200,000 miles with the transmission never touched other than maintenance. Keep fighting the good fight!
If they don't last 400,000 miles I consider them junk.
I enjoy all of your videos, and I have come to the conclusion that it is because you're a likeable guy. I watch all of your videos whether or not they pertain to what I do here. Knowledge is knowledge, and many things interest me. You're not the Kardashians, but you'll do.
Thank you sir
Liked your story. It seems to be very honest. good luck.
Great job of explaining the issues Brock. I doubt the haters have any understanding of what you're going through or you're professionalism while dealing with Ram and the dealer.
When my 2016 Ram (3500) transmission (68RFE) failed the dealer did the same exactly thing with me. Let's open the transmission and try to fix it. I called RAM and opened a case directly with them. After that, they authorized a transmission swap under warranty.
Today, I drive a Ram 3500 HO with an Aisin transmission. No problems with the Aisin+HO combination so far. I like Ram products just not with the 68RFE transmission. I hope they replace your transmission.
The aisin is definitely the best option for trucks that pull. They're solid trans!
If you get a 68 rfe rebuilt at a custom shop, you won't have to worry about it .That's what I did buuuut, I had 468,000 miles on a 2014 Ram 3500 2wd , sooo I didn't feel bad just that it was the middle of winter and I didn't know who 2 trust. Let me te you "BMS OF GOSHEN INDIANA" THATS THE RIGHT GUY I AM A PROFESSIONAL CAMPER HAULER
I just went through the same thing with a 2009 Town&Country Limited. 4.0, 6 speed, 180K, factory life time power train warranty. Local dealer had reman transmission in stock.
Flat rate time for swap is 11 hours. Zone rep first took a week to look at it and then refused replacement, insisted on dealer rebuild of transmission. But local dealer didn't have a tech certified to do rebuild. Took three weeks to determine that zone rep wouldn't allow local dealer to rebuild. Found another dealer 30 miles away with certified tech. Took car there. Got a call the next day that their tech had just left, but that they'd still figure out how to get it done. Four weeks later the local dealer got a certified tech, brought car back. Got a call the next day that their tech had just left. Where did he go? To the other dealer I just came from. Took car back. Then tech left there again. Car sat for over 6 weeks while I waited for zone rep to find a dealer qualified to do rebuild. He never did. I found a third dealer 40 miles in the other direction who did have a qualified tech, took car there. Three days later it was done. CAR WAS OUT OF SERVICE FOR 5 MONTHS! Three letters to Chairman's office went unanswered. Zone rep would never allow his phone number or email to be given to me, could never have any contact with him.
I've been a Chrysler only customer since 1970. I currently have 5 minivans and 5 RAM diesels in my fleet. The way this warranty service was handled was totally unacceptable.
There is no longer a Chrysler. Stellantis, which is the current label, is Peugeot. And now we know why Peugeot didn't survive in the U.S. market. When they show no regard for their customers they don't deserve to survive. I will never purchase a Peugeot vehicle and I will never again recommend one. I've sold at least 15 Chrysler vehicles to others over the years, but never again.
I did suggest that the zone rep be fired, but that before they fire him they give him a salesman of the month award. For selling an F450 and a Honda Odyssey.
The real problem is that you think dealers are qualified to rebuild a transmission. That’s what a transmission shop is for.
@@waterloo123100 I didn't think the dealers were qualified to rebuild the transmission. That was the idiot zone rep.
@@anvilsvs You could have had the transmission rebuilt by a transmission shop at the dealers expense
@@waterloo123100 Obviously you don't understand how factory lifetime power train warranty works. The dealer isn't the responsible party and has no control over the payment for warranty work. You can't even have another dealer rebuild it with out prior authorization from the zone rep. And if you have a dealer install a factory reman they won't pay.
My god, dude, you have a lot of patience. I came here because of Ram's sales decline and quality issues and your situation was quite enlightening
I'm So glad I came across your videos on this truck. I have a 2017 Ram 1500 with only 28k miles on it but wanted to upgrade to the Limited and even went to the dealer in 23 looking for one and they blew me off as a dumb hick, so I went online to order the one I wanted it was loaded and was a 2500 ram but it was $80k - $95k so I wanted to think about it now a year has gone buy and was thinking about it again and thanks to your Video I will be keeping my 2017 with low mileage and never had a problem with it - I can live without the heated seats & steering wheel and the extras. So TY for your honest input on yours you saved me thousands of $ - I really hope things work out for you on your Truck God Bless
Thanks for being so transparent Brock.
I’m sure it took a lot out of you reading all of these comments, responding to them, and then on top of it all. GETTING ALL CAPS COMMENTS! Lol
Anyways, thanks for telling your story. We are rooting for ya!
Also, not that my input was asked for. But I think you should just keep the 2500 after it’s fixed. And chances are, you won’t have a long repair like this for a while. And in the mean time, save up and buy a back up duelly for $5k-$15k.
You got the warranty for the new truck for 100k miles, and you put on roughly 20k miles a year don’t cha?
So that’s 5 years of warranty. I think you should wait it out and maybe switch brands after this? Or maybe you’ll run this truck into the ground and keep it for 30 years as a back up truck to your new fords/chevys/rams you purchase to keep your daily reliable.
Anyways, sorry for rambling. Best of luck brother
Remember that over the years, the Chrysler Corporation went through changes of ownership, First it was Chrysler, then it was owned by Mercedes as Daimler-Chrysler, and later Fiat bought half, then all of Chrysler. Fiat is known for terrible reliability. If the truck could not handle the loads you were towing, then the problems should have been in a forward gear. Your truck had a failure of the reverse gear. I suspect that it was just a quality control problem.
Now it's Fiat/Citroën/Chrysler...
@@joetuktyyuktuk8635 ...Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young...
Exactly!! European junk.
Great video it reiterates the fact that Rams are legendary for this kind of stuff .
These are crazy times we are in. Good luck to you and I wish you the best!
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I don’t blame you one bit. When you’re dropping big coin for a truck, get what you want. Ford and GMC want over $90k for some of their stuff. Ram needs to make it right.
They will. My buddys exhaust manifold bolt broke. And my buddy drilled the bolts out himself. He drill a hole into the water jacket on the head. He took it to the dodge dealer and they put a brand new crate motor in it. Truck had 99k miles on it
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@@DieselAddict-vs9fc LOL that sounds a lot like winning the lottery bud
Okay, you paid 83k for the truck that made you happy. I’m happy for you. It was your decision and I agree with your wife’s input. Get the transmission repaired or replaced (it’s under warranty). Continue driving it. With a little luck it may last 200-300,000 miles without any more problems. If it craps out again I’d say, seriously think about replacing it, but for now, just keep on truckin.
DONT REPAIR IT I KNOW
It's good to be humble. You are a good man. I like your videos.
Lawyer needed to solve this problem. You are a very nice guy that they are not taking seriously.
I've said to my friends over the years that vehicles are being pushed into little more than a rolling computer. I hate it. I'm thankful to have 4 vehicles that range from 2001-2015...all bought new and paid off. I like to work on all of them, and luckily, they're not so "advanced" that I have to ever go to the dealer. Prices are insane. I can't imagine having monthly payments nowadays. Keep us posted on the Dodge saga.
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In brief I bought a new 22’ Tundra. Every make was in my sights I had no bias. But once you go though the actual vetting process upon talking with dealerships near & far, etc. only then you and only you can justify why you bought what you settled for during strange times. Understanding this is how I sleep at night with buying my re-designed Tundra.
Good luck, think you did the right thing under the circumstances, I know someone right now trying to find a decent 3/4 ton truck (used) and it’s very tough!
Just saw your video . It was well done . I have a 2015 f250 6.2 gas . I debated heavily on getting a diesel and glad I went with gas . My f250 is a great truck and does everything I want . My mpg avg 17 . Plenty of power and I don't have to worry about all the maintenance that comes with diesel trucks . I got it used for 24 thousand very clean truck. The previous owner regrets letting go. He got a new diesel and has nothing but problems.
Hey Brock, I found one for you 02 F 250 7.3 power stroke ext cab 8 fr bed dark charcoal. Straight body no major damage and nice interior. How can I get a hold of you? (8 grand)
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Hopefully things will work out for you. Who’s to say if you bought a different brand this problem could not have happened to that truck also
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You’re absolutely correct friend at work purchased a brand new GMC 3500 Duramax hard loaded been in the shop for four months with fuel problems GM says they will do a partial warranty even though the truck is under full warranty $26,000 repair do the math on that one. GM !
I've been down the same exact road as you are in 2018. 2016 Ram 60K miles 68RFE went out. 6 weeks in the shop and finally they about to install "new" transmission. Found out was a rebuilt unit. So I upgraded to a SRW 3500 with Aisin. I recommend placing and order for a 3500 with HO Cummins with Aisin, single wheel, no moon roof. The load you pulling will do just fine. When your new 3500 arrives just sell current one and won't be much loss, used truck market wont change by then.
You handled it like a man!
I think the bigger problem is that leak. A transmission fix is easy but replacing the interior and electronics with water damage is expensive.
If it makes you feel better I had a 19 GMC the motor went out at 30,000, now I have 2021 Ram 2500 and had some sensors and other things go out. Newer trucks seemed to be crap.
My friends Denali GMC 2019 broke rods and lifters at 60k. Dealer ship bought truck back if he would buy another one year newer with the same defective 5.3. He is in more debt and this truck could do the same thing.
I get your frustration, been there. I have a business to that requires trucks, I have one 3/4 ton and one 1 ton. I no longer buy them, to many issues, always after the warranties run out. I now lease, and only for no longer then what the warranty is for. Also in the contract with the dealership, I have them right up, if the trucks have to go back under warranty for a repair, they have to give me a comparable truck to drive if it takes longer than one day to fix, that’s how I have them write it up. I do have the Tradesmen’s 6.4L, bare bones, with a couple things that I wanted though. I put zero down and my payments are about $650.00 a month on each truck. I put those payments towards my business, and right a lot of it off. The nice thing about it, is you get a new truck every three years. No more worries anymore, I can get jobs done. One other thing, I do not have any interest in a diesel, too much work, my 6.4L does just as well as a diesel, and I pull some pretty heavy stuff. Oh, one other thing, when I was looking for my trucks, I had to go out to the country dealership to find them, the city does not have any interest in 3/4, tons, or 1 ton trucks, they only like selling the grocery getter’s.
I actually really appreciate your video and your honesty. It's a tool of course but it's okay to have feelings about it. I also admire you standing by what you bought and giving the company a chance to do the right thing. I've got a 97 k 1500 Chevy suburban. I rebuilt the transmission twice cuz I had case cracks. 97-98 years had a 4 bolt to the transfer case adapter instead of the 6. It also was a one-piece transmission case. If the drive shaft is unbalanced or a mount goes out the chance of case cracks is huge. I still have the truck. She's got 207,000 mi she'll max out the speedometer LOL. Apparently these trucks have a 100 mph governor. Do what you think is best for you, your family, and your business man! Please keep sharing because I appreciate your content.
Its really a common problem many people have with all makes not just Dodge.I think you gave a lot of really good personal experience in this video. I worked in this industry with GM for over 30 years as a tech, shop foreman and service director. All you can do is use your life experiences and read and understand your warranties and purchase agreements at that time. I'am sure you have helped someone with your story keep up the good work and put your best foot forward!
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Don't buy new vehicles. Give them a few years, that makes them more reliable, let other people fix the early problems that occur. I am also not impressed with today's diesel tech, not worth it. I have diesel cummins 5.9 in my 2005 truck and after they went to the 6.7L like mid year 2007 and later, I am not interested. No regen, DEF, EGR ,for me, nothing but trouble.
I know this maybe sounds like overkill but this might be a good time to call a lawyer. They can find the right people to talk to without you having to be a jerk. And they can prove actual damages for the work you're losing without the truck you paid for. Dodge at least owes you a decent loaner
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Absolutely
- I have a 2002 Chevy Tahoe with over 269,000 miles. The only major repairs were a gasket leak and front end work. I added a 6” lift kit and big mud tires. I love my truck. I’m thankful for my truck.
Man, you are a calm dude
After listening to the end I think you should be happy with your truck. The only issue is the slow service. Be a pain and call them daily. Express to them that you are losing money and can't do your work without the truck.
Do you think they care? He has to hire a lawyer and that's the end of it.
I feel your pain and have had similar luck on past purchases. I am 75 years old and found out that if you have a serious problem with a big ticket item you have to write a letter of discontent to at least three of the major officers of the company to get a successful response. Dealing with the local dealer is not very often successful and having the knuckleheads in the service dept try to rebuild a complex transmission is doomed to be a nightmare. Rattle the company’s big boys cages and you should get results. I wish you good luck
I'm with you sir, I used to do the same thing but nowadays they don't even bother answering letters because they really don't care about the customer. Those jobs went to young people that if they send you a letter it would be a form letter telling you you're screwed
my pops always says bought sense is the best sense. we all make mistakes bro. don't stress too much about it. once the truck is fixed you'll fall in love with it again!. chin up positive vibes☮
This is exactly why I kept my 04.5 3500 Dually. Never selling it. 20k would not even touch my truck.
I’ve owned 13 trucks in the last 20 years. 4 of those were Dodge/ Ram. Of the 4, 3 had transmission problems requiring removal. The 4th one was a 68RFE in a 2012 model and was horrible to tow with. I’ll never own a Ram again. My GM and Ford vehicles have all been much better quality with far less problems.
I've had 4 Rams and no transmission problems at all. It is a crap shoot no matter what brand you buy. I switched to Ram when I got tired of my GM's front ends falling apart
Hey Brock, you're a very sincere guy in a tough spot. I'd suggest you live with your decisions and don't take a beating on trying to unload your truck. Take a deep breath and ride it out. Hopefully the rebuilt or replacement transmission will be fine. Only a small percentage of the RAM transmissions fail and you've had some bad luck with the last two vehicles. It happens with all brands.
Yes that’s true I have my self a ‘22 3/4 ram Cummins runs great and also have friends who owns rams and they’re satisfied so let them fix it and if continue make trouble move to different brand I’ll choose gmc over ford imo.
Selling it now is a bad idea for sure, but as far as taking a beating, that is sealed as soon as you buy new, nothing will change that. Let dealer fix it, meanwhile get a decent used truck. If you have a business, you need a backup truck anyway. I dont have a business, and I find I need 3 cars. I drive, wife drives and third vehicle is for whenever something may break down or daughter needs to borrow a car cause hers broke down. Yeah,m they know they need a 3rd car.
I now drive a 2022 RAM 2500 4x4 Hemi purchased in December and have been very pleased with it. I gave my old daily driver to a grandson and bought this truck from the dealer inventory after a 15 minute test drive. It has been on a few short road trips towing nothing. No one pays me to use my truck as part of a business, so it's just nice transportation. All I have added is a bed rug and a tonneau cover as well as a medium-duty drop hitch. My wife has a nice SUV that gets better gas mileage, so being 'without the truck' is not an issue for us. I don't know what your business model is but a lease or rental is probably not part of it. I would advise exploring your options with RAM to see how this is going to play out once your truck is fixed. You cannot eat a warranty.
I feel you, hang in there.
I'm a Toyota guy because they have done me right for 40+ years.
Needed a a new truck but bypassed the 22 Tundra and bought a used 21.
All auto manufacturers are failing us now with reliability ... probably part of the plan from the "Big Guy "
Haha! Good point. I'm waiting to watch "My son Hunter" when it debuts in the coming days. What a trashy family.
Yeah, the only problem with Toyota is they don’t make anything bigger than a half ton which doesn’t do me any good
@@RockhillfarmYT so true and a mystery why they don't?
But I bet a Tundra would suit your towing needs without issues.
Don't beat yourself up for buying some perks for the vehicle you spend so much of your life in..I quit trying to justify my reasons for buying " xtras " I love my work vehicle and it's comfortable to drive.
That tyranny is the only issue here, the people that find fault with your decisions about what you drive can go POUND SAND...lol !
Keep The Faith my friend
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Thank you sir
Awesome video and an honest testimony.
Men I completely understand you I went I bought a new truck for the same reason, and I was looking for a little truck and everything out there was super overpriced .hope everything works out for you .God bless !
When I was looking for a truck back in Jan 2021 I looked at all the brands. I really liked the Ford and the GMC but the dealers were starting to see low inventory and they wanted $85k with no discounts at the time for both of those 1 ton truck with a Kings Ranch for the Ford and a Denali on the GMC. I already visited the Ram dealer multiple times and has even taken a few test drives with the truck. When I knew I wanted to order a truck that I wanted I went to the dealerships and starting talking numbers. I wanted a 3500 from Ram or GMC or a F350 from Ford. Ford and GM would not give me a penny off the trucks and didn’t even want to guarantee they wouldn’t charge me more when on truck when it showed up if the prices went up. I went and sat down with the Ram sales manager and told him what I wanted, I told them if he could get me a Ram 3500 Limited HO Mega Cab with factory air I would order the truck that day and give them a down payment. He said he would ask the owner since the owner was at the dealership and they agree to sell me the truck for $79k which is still crazy expensive. It took 15 weeks to get the truck but at this point the truck has been phenomenal. It has 16000 miles and zero issues but just like every truck and every manufacturer, my truck will have issues some day.
Example. My buddy has a 2021 Denali and it was in the shop 3 times before it had 15k miles on it. Most steering column issues and it did throw a code for emissions that got resolved through and update. You just never know what is going to happen with each truck.
I hope you can get the issue squared away with Ram and get your truck back soon. Hang in there.
I think your idea about contacting Dodge directly is the way to go. Get your claim number from the dealer and call them.
They owe you a comparable vehicle as a "loaner" .
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👍🏿 thank you for sharing
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