Belt Drive vs Direct Drive! Yamaha GT-5000 turntable REVIEW. Compared to Technics SL-1200GAE
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- In this "quick and dirty" review, Independent AV Specialist Morten Stjernholm reviews the amazing looking €8.300 Yamaha GT-5000 turntable and compares the sound to the top of the line €4.000 Technics SL-1200GAE using the same cartridge and preamp.
The review is a part of a larger review of the Yamaha 5000 series HIFI that you can see here: • Yamaha 5000 series HIF...
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DOWNLOAD THE SOUND COMPARISON AND READ ME FILES HERE (488mb, Zip archive)
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The review samples was kindly supplied by Yamaha Scandinavia.
Read more about the 5000 series products here:
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Video Segments:
0:00 Welcome
0:22 Behold the magnificence
1:00 Materials and weight
1:40 Family history except
2:00 The finish and problem
2:39 Belt drive vs direct drive + straight tonearm
3:35 Balanced outputs
4:08 The Technics Direct drive torque
5:00 Differences between the tables
6:20 Sound Comparison
7:00 Sound Comparison signal path
8:15 Record and track selection
9:00 GT-5000 startup time (low torque, heavy platter)
10:22 GT-5000 playing
11:03 SL-1200GAE playing
11:40 Digital/TIDAL playing
12:28 GT-5000 pros and cons
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Stjernholm Reviews Sonic Snacks PLAYLIST:
Stjernholm Reviews Sonic Snacks Playlists on Tidal, Qobuz, Spotify, CZcams Music (tracks I often use for critical judgement, updated continuously - suggestions are very welcome!)
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Video production shot and production assisted by Tim Harris, Headway Production
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Channel beats are tapped in and produced by Marcus Stjernholm, aka. Marc Nash
Spotify link to artist:
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Great comparison and just what I was looking for. Thank you.
Thank you for mentioning 78rpm, which is a turntable core feature for me. Have the SL-1200GR and really like it a lot. I do admit, the Yamaha looks stunning, though.
A big thank you for such a comprehensive review. I also appreciated the fact that you did not 'sit on the fence'
I have downloaded the sample files and look forward to playing them on my much more modest (Yamaha CR 2020) system
Thank you for the kind comment. Let us know what you think!
Excellent comparison
Thank you for this review. After listening to the files, I'm for the Technics hands down, even over the Tidal version.
I was quite surprised by the difference, too. One of the great things about turntables i think! How would you describe their sound profiles on the track I used?
@@stjernholmreviews the tack is not a great track to use since its synthesized piano - would like real wood and drums or real singers
Great review thanks. I would have loved to hear your take on the comparison between the 3 different sources. Really like your videos - please can we have some more?
That was on purpose. I am interested in learning too. So I asked for your comments, and kept my own for myself to not cloud anyones judgement. The files are there to listen to in the spirit of "just listen". In regards to new turntable videos, then I have a couple in mind, that could make some interesting comparisons. But all good things takes time 😄. For the record, I found the Technics to be more "my kind" of sound. It sounded faster and more neutral to me in its presentation. The GT-5000 was cozy and musical sounding, a bit more laid back, with more warmth and a fatter, but less defined low end. The digital presentation became a bit lifeless in comparison in all its correctness.
@@stjernholmreviews yes I saw that and I can understand how you have done this. I was thinking a nice follow up video with your review to compare your thoughts with viewers. Could be fun. Love what you’re doing. Mike
bass and low end was noticeable better with the 1200G. Also was more silent than the GT-5000. I downloaded and clickrepaired both tracks and the program removed more clicks and pops on the GT-5000 track than the 1200G one. The GT-5000 has a more airy sound. I have the original GT-2000, a direct drive unit, with an upper 3 kg copper mat, it sounds really nice. Thinking about adding an external power supply, which is supposed to increase the performance even more. I was wondering how it would compare against the GT-5000, but now after this comparison, I'm wondering if it'll better than the 1200G. I find the sound presentation of the latter very appealing...
Hi John. Thank you for watching the channel! Yes, it is very interesting that two good turntables using the came cartridge and amp can sound so different. There is really a big difference in the character. I definitely found the SL-1200G to sound "tighter" and "faster" overall, but I also like the added "fatness" of the GT-5000. There is definitely records that would sound their best on one or the other. 🙂. If you make some of the modifications to your GT-2000 (did not know it was direct drive!) please share what you learned here!
Been missing you 😘. Please review the lyngdorf tdai 3400
Thank you so much. These things take time, thats why new videos come up months apart :-) The TDAI-3400 is in the pipeline, and will be a part of a bigger Lyngdorf "thing" exploring their products further.
@@stjernholmreviews i hope they include the mp-60 2.1 AV Processor
@@Lolo-1010 it will.
As a Technics fan, I must say Pioneer looks amazing! Just WOW!!! What an amazing machine! No doubt that direct drive has advantages, yet in a room environment when one is just to enjoy the music, Pioneer probably has more to offer
Pioneer?
@@mauricioquimas2622 Yamaha, lapsus linguae 🫢….
Great capture! What is that professional recorder?
Its a Tascam DA-3000.
@@stjernholmreviews Thanks! Would be great to record other sources like the streamer shootout. Really helpful.🙏🙏
Wow, well done, thanks! What headshell is used on the Technics?
I believe it was a Audio Technica standard shell.
Wouldn't the straight tone arm cause more tracking error? Why are most tone arms offset anyway?
Hello Dennis and thank you for watching the channel! The straight arm gives potentially better tracking, but with the theoretical sacrifice of absolute phase, that will "drift" a tiny bit over the cause of the playback. (not in video) I actually tested both turntables with the same high quality cartridge using a test record. Both tables was capable of sustaining 70 Microns tracking with no problem and no audible distortion, and 80 microns with a little audible distortion. At 90 microns they both cant stay in the groove. 🙂. To do that, interestingly, - it requires a DJ style cartridge, running at 4 grams+ tracking force.
Its a strange concept no offset angle for the cartridge. Probably gonna work well with the DL103R and its spherical stylus.
Wich one do you like best when it comes to sound quality?
Witch one did YOU like the best? I think it is very much about the music. When listening to say, Diana Krall, I liked the GT5000 the best. Its warmer, but also a little bit more "fluffy". The Technics seems more tight, punchy and dare i say it "calm"? I find both very good in the top end with the used Ortofon Cardenza black Cartridge. The recording itself is a bit harsh in the top, but both sound "right" to me.
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Thank you
Both turntables are awesome. But I want to have an improved Technics SL-1500C (or SL-100C) on the same quality level as the 1200G. I prefer the cleaner look without the "DJ" Features.
Agree.. You may look forward to next year, where I will do a complete Technics showdown, comparing the 1000, 1200GR2, The MK7(DJ model) and the 100C/1500C.
@@stjernholmreviews Nice! Thanks for all the good videos this year, really looking forward for more to come.
Delicious material ? I never heard of it, Delicious food yes 👍.
🙂 Thanks, Mark. English is not native to me, so expect a some "new" language.
@@stjernholmreviews this isn’t a big issue of a language here however you should have mention here, when you do review the turntable by telling us, it is a semiautomatic or fully automatic turntable or not? What type of a recommendation for the cartridge to go with this turntable etc. thanks
@@markvelber8664 Sorry for late reply. Your comment was flagged as spam for no apparent reason?
Both the turntables are manual, which is usually always the case with high end turntables, where you dont want any "additional" mechanics. Simple is good, remember? 🙂. Both players can accommodate a wide selection of cartridges, as they are highly adjustable, and has a selection of counterweights. Yamaha recommends the Ortofon Cadenza Black as a good choice.
very nice for me the Yamaha had better bass and dynamics drum strikes sounded most real but timing sounded off compared to the Roon, the Roon was obviously clean and quieter - homogenized sound tho - the Technics was the worst of the 3 - sounding like a mix of the two with record noise and pops boring sounding and for me sounded off timing wise the system sounded off with Technics even though its quartz locked for me it sounded off timing wise as well - I wonder if you can comment -
Thanks for sharing!
Yamaha has more resolution just more of it more vibrant.
Skyshakerrr, are you still out there? I was expecting you to take part on this one! ;-). czcams.com/video/xSCi_n5J7ps/video.html
Hi, How good is the phono stage on it? Good enough to not buying a separate one? Thinking seriously about buying one, but if I'll do it I'll be run out of money to add an external phono preamp worthy of a cartridge around 2K. Any advice will be appreciated. Kind regards
See reply on the 5000 series review video