Vivien and Suzanne
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- čas přidán 20. 03. 2008
- This is the first video that shows pictures of Suzanne, Viviens only child.
Trivia: Suzanne was born October 12th 1933
Trivia: Suzanne was Viviens only living child. Vivien had a total of three miscarriges, all with Laurence Olivier. The first was in 1942, and the baby died within the first couple of weeks, the second miscarriage happened in 1945. Vivien was starring in Caesar and Cleopatra and she had to run in one scene and shout "I am a Queen" but the floor was over-waxed thus making her fall and loose the baby. The third miscarriage happened in 1956. Vivien was only 42 years old at the time and she was starring in Noel Cowards "South sea bubble" she pulled out of the play August 11th. Vivien awaited for her baby at Notley Abbey, but she suffered a miscarriage on August 12th. The baby was five months along, it would have been a baby boy. However, Vivien wanted a baby girl who was to be named Katherine. Sadly enough, she had the godparents, the nanny and a nursery ready for the baby that she lost.
Trivia: In 1958, the Olivier marriage was almost over. Laurence Olivier thought that having a family with Vivien would help repair the marriage. He asked her if she wanted children with him but she refused. - Zábava
Lovely pictures. Vivian was a great actress,but such a troubled soul. So sad. She died far too young.
She died of a recurrence of TB....
Her devoting at a movie is consumption in all energy
that makes true acteress to any movie she was a geat atfter she wnt gone
I pray for her forever
Thank you so much 💓
Suzanne Mary Holman Farrington died on March 1, 2015 at the age of 81 years. She was predeceased by her husband, Robin. She lived a very private life and raised three sons. She is survived by all three sons, and twelve grandchildren, so Vivien Leigh has twelve Great-Grandchildren the oldest of whom are in their mid and early twenties as of this writing. Suzanne's father, Leigh Holman was thirty-three years old when he married Vivien Leigh. Vivien had just turned nineteen years old a few weeks prior to their marriage. Suzanne was born before their first anniversary, so Vivien was still only nineteen years old when her daughter was born. She was probably even less prepared to be a mother at nineteen years of age than I would have been at that age! Additionally, Vivien did not have a "normal" childhood as she was basically raised in an English convent school from the age of six years on with very little interaction with her parents who were living in India. In fact she did not see them on a regular basis until she turned 14 years of age at which time her formal schooling was over, and they set about touring the continent with her. Therefore, I have to say I do not think Vivien's role model for "mothering" was particularly strong. Viven's mother, Gertrude Hartley, did in fact help a great deal in the raising of Suzanne. I have to wonder if she ever had any regrets about leaving her own child (Vivien) at a convent school so far from home. Leigh Holman, Suzanne's father was a wonderful, forgiving man who enjoyed a life-long sort of brother/sister relationship with Vivien for the duration of her life. He had custody of Suzanne for her entire childhood from the time Vivien left him to Suzanne's adulthood. In fact, he was a stalwart supporter of Vivien Leigh's and she often spent her birthday with him after Olivier left her for Joan Plowright. Suzanne was certainly not impaired mentally in any way!
+Lizzy Lou Vivien Leigh struggled and suffered with bipolar her entire life and her daughter was very fortunate not to have had that gene passed to her. I just wonder if any of her grandchildren have it. I have bipolar and it skips one generation. For example I have bipolar - my mother did not - but my grandmother did
That's right. Vivien's lonely childhood and absent parents probably molded her own distant relationship with her daughter. You tend to raise children the way you were raised.That's why I'm glad I never had any children. I would be a bad parent. No patience and unaffectionate. Just the way my parents were to me. I'm 60 now and both my parents died 2 and 3 years ago. I've come to accept them as parents and think they did the best they could.I never knew 3 of my grandparents so I have no idea how they were raised.Also my parents were 87 and 95 when they died.Born in a very different time than now.Got off the subject of Vivien a bit, but I think emotional coldness to others is learned behavior. I was taught very well!! Love Vivien and I feel sorry for her.
There is evidence that Vivien was ill with this even at the convent as a child. With no parents to guide her it must have been a horrible experience.
stupid woman. Good that you had No children. Love and wanting children coupled with education create good parents.
Thank you Lizzie Lou.
Peeppie: To whom are you talking to, fool?
Great tribute! I first became familiar with Vivien when I saw Waterloo Bridge. She was such a delight. Its too bad more people my age aren't familiar with these great actors of the past. I'm 23 by the way.
I so agree with you. She was so very interesting as an actress.
23 or 27??? 😀😀
She has been a stunning, awesome actress, one of the best in the world, in all ages!!!
@@jimcormney Why the query? The age stated is 23.
@@davidcopson5800 Honestly, I have no idea why I wrote that question. Also it was posted twice. I rewatched the video and am lost as to why it would initially grab my interest. Doh!! Straight up, I do not remember David
Thank you for uploading these pictures. Hugo Vickers' biography of Vivien Leigh includes a beautiful letter written by Suzanne to her grandmother, Gertrude Hartley, thanking her for raising her in Vancouver, BC during WWII. Also, the blog "Viv And Larry" has a film of Sophie Farrington, Vivien's great granddaughter, traveling about to learn more about her great grandmother --to MGM, where she meets a son or grandson of David O. Selznick; and to Tickerage Mill, Vivien's last home where her ashes are scattered on the pond, where she meets Tarquin, Olivier's son with Jill Esmond. It's a sweet film.
Vivian struggle so much with her mental state, had to be so hard come out of her low points and feel so guilty about everything, I truly feel for her, she seemed like such an amazing woman.
She was.
I remember a reporter once telling Suzanne that she didn't look anything like her mother, with that Suzanne laughed and said; Thank God for that! Suzanne and Vivien had a strained relationship early on, which got better once Suzanne got older and started having children. Towards the end of Vivien's life both mother and daughter enjoyed a much better relationship. I'm glad over that since Vivien seemed so alone (yes I know about John Merivale) towards the end of her life.
From what I have read, Vivien Leigh was blessed with many good friends that stayed with her through thick and thin.
Merivale was a great help to her and a great friend to her in her last years. Merivale was there for her. That's a big deal. That's not being alone.
Pity it was not the love of her life Larry,he knew her better than anybody else l AM sure she would have lived longer as he would have got her in to hospital when her coughing got worse , Vivien was the love of his life as well.
I've always wondered about Suzanne, what sort of a life she led, and what became of her. Thank you for your thoughtful video. It was good to see that she and her mother seemed to have a close relationship.
Suzanne lived a private domestic life with her husband, children and grandchildren. She was loved by everyone. She doesn't do interviews about her mother despite her herself once wanting to be an actress. Her husband robin died in 2004 and she died age 81 in March 2015. She stayed in England.
I was sad to learn of Suzanne's passing. Leigh Holman, Vivien Leigh and Suzanne- that little family are all gone.
How did she die
very interesting to see Vivien's daughter and see her downline on the computer. What an amazing legacy to be a part of. Talk about mixing british and American royalty together with Vivien's history. I never knew the woman since I was born after she died, But her life is amazing and I totally get her. I also suffer from Bipolar. She has the passion and the fire I feel everyday. What an honor it must be for her family to say that they are related to her.
It wasn't until the late 50's and the birth of Suzanne's children that they formed a close relationship despite them always caring for each other. In 1957 they went on holiday together with Leigh Holman
That's very neat that Suzanne had three sons, giving Vivien grandchildren and great grandchildren
Lovely video, beautiful ladies Vivian and Suzanne....xx
Thank you for posting these great photos.
I love the great actresses and actors of her generation. I grew up on their movies, watching them on television when I was a child in the '50s. This video really brought Vivian closer to me than ever before, a glimpse into her off-screen life. I'll never forget seeing a theatrical re-release of Gone With The Wind in the early '70s. Vivian came across on the big screen as powerful as a Force Of Nature.
Wow some really shallow and mean comments here. Have more respect for others... She is beautiful.
so lovely - thank you for this - it warmed my heart!
Absolutely fascinating. Thank you for this precious, unexpected glimpse into the lives of these two women!
Me alegra saber que Vivien tuvo una hija y llegó a ser abuela. Gracias por este hermoso video.
Me ha encantado. ¡Gracias por compartir!.
Suzanne was not the great beauty her mom was Hope she had a better stable life than her mom.
She doesn't resemble her mother at all. She looks just like her father. She was raised by her father as well(and his mother). He must have some strong genes. I saw a profile of Suzanne and her nose is like Vivien's. Still looking for chin and smile
Wonderful pics and song!!
What a beautiful video! You really did a wonderful job!
Thank you so much for this lovely video! I enjoyed it so much. I only wish Vivian could have completed all her pregnancys
Thank you for the upload. These are fantastic photographs, I also assumed that she had little to do with her daughter so this shows a different side to her.
Thanks for this short movie CeCe.I like Vivien Leigh.Yesterday I watch Gone With The Wind,great movie !
What a treat thank you.
Great pictures ; captions with names & places would give more info of course but these pics are treasures!
Hermosa mujer Vivien
Inolvidable
Me encanta saber que tuvo una hija y fue abuela
Que alegria saber que Vivian tuvo nietos, que seguramente , le regalaron carino . Su vida atormentada por dos enfermedades sin la existencia de la quimica (no existia en su epoca) que podria haber aliviado esa tremenda carga desgastante de su existencia. Sin embargo ella regalo siempre lo mejor de si misma a traves de su carrera artistica. Era una perfeccionista y laboriosa actriz, reconocida como tal por quienes la conocieron.... una criatura amable y portadora de grandes virtudes, ademas de su belleza luminosa y natural.
I love the music that goes with this.
I had never heard anything about them having a realationship, this is amazing,
"Had a baby. A girl". Nice video - thanks so much!!
Looks like they at least had a decent relationship. As I understand, she was raised by her father. She is a very pretty thing. I like her normal cute girl next door look. Hope she's doing alright now...
She's got her smile =)
Ditto
Can you imagine having that goddess for a mother? Poor girl! I’m so glad that she appears to have had a normal healthy happy long life! Good for her!
Adoro fotos antigas. Muito lindas!!!
WOW. I just clicked this video surfing and low and behold I realized I'm watching this on her 79th birthday.
Great job! It is hard to find a mother/daughter video of Vivien. Thanks!
What an interesting public figure. Thank you for this, it's a nice side to the otherwise anti-mother story we hear. It was interesting to see photos of her daughter too... and a grandchild! The misfortune of her illness is an example of the sort of disorder we should try to learn more about. God rest her soul.
Poor Suzanne had to hear all her life how she did not look like her famous mother!
Children od famous people often don't have easy life
Vivien Leigh was exquisite, Suzanne certainly took after her father and really was nothing like her beautiful mother, even her bone structure and frame has no similarities. Suzanne seemed like a down to earth girl with a practical attitude, more like a farmers wife than a movie star!
Suzanne was probably a lot happier than Vivien was. I've seen photos of Vivien during her 1953 breakdown-----she looked so ill and miserable.
Vivien leigh's grandchildren shoud be very private people too...i know nothing about them
Huge fan of Vivien and Larry, but its really a good thing they didn't end up having kids. Viven herself stated she was a "rotten mother", and her illness got worse over time.
If they had a child,he-she sure would became a jewel with a so handsome parents,but it sure had never been happy because people who worked in showbusiness (often)are very busy and kids grew up with baby-sitters
Me encantó el video!!!
amo a vivien leigh!!
Wonderful in every way.
Yes, I have to agree that Suzanne definitely looks more like Leigh her father.
what a beautiful mum had this girl!!!!
Vivien was a goddess
i enjoyed this. I hope Suzanne had--or is having--a happy life. What led you to make this documentary--because you share the name "Leigh"?
Thankyou for putting that together,it was great!Did Vivien have a close relationship with her daughter.It seemed that in her documentary she wasn't too thrilled about motherhood.
I think Suzanne favors his Dad, perhaps with her Mom’s mouth, very attractive young woman. You could never expect a carbon copy of one parent or the other. It is good that they could have a closer relationship once Suzanne was older. Live and let live! ❤️
Suzanne is the spitting image of her father.
ES HERMOSA IGUAL QUE DE JOVEN!!!
GRACIAS POR EL POSTR.
URUGUAY biomoni
Дочь копия отца.К сожалению красота Вивьен никому не передалась! Вивьен суперкрасавица!!!
Her grandchildren neither seemed similiar to her in infancy
I always assumed that Suzanne was raised by her father, Leigh Holman, but these photos show that she also had some kind of a relationship with her very famous mother.
o my, how wonderful !!
that is true and it wasn't until late in vivien's life where they had a mother/daughter relationship. and she was close friends with her ex husband
I think Catalina is talking about Gene Tierny's daughter. Vivien's daughter was just fine
Suzanne definitely looks more like her dad. And while she may not be as attractive as her mom- I would never call her ugly. I mean the picture at 0:12- shows us a very cute picture of her even though she's only a toddler. I think it's sad they didn't have a strong relationship till later in life. Imagine having an international star as a mother... it couldn't have been easy.
Suzanne farrington should had been a very reserved woman As well.most of british people,and she did the best thing to protecting her privacy
Im afraid Suzanne took more of her characteristics (looks) from her father Lee Holman than from Viv. Grandchildren looks like they did too.
Where do you people find this stuff?????
Glad to hear that she left many descendants.
I wonder how Suzanne felt about being abandoned by her mom
Suzanne had her mom's chin and cheekbones. Don't know why I'm commenting on that.
Let's FACE it. Nor do we.
She looked more like her father who wasn’t a bad looking man in his day!
That was very nice. How old was Suzanne when her parents divorced? Did they go on holidays together after the divorce?
what ever happened to her kid? Is she still around?
Wow she looked nothing like her beautiful mother
Was suzanne farrington an actress too?
Love her ❤️
What happened to missis vivien leigh's grandchildren?
Suzanne looks like her father… not a scrap of Vivien’s features at all.
I desperately want to read their diaries
@CeCeLeighCMD92 It makes very sad to read that Vivien Leigh had three miscarriages. A miscarriage is one of the most awful things to happen to a woman.
She was a really *bad* mother. Left the little girl with her father to be with Olivier. Poor Suzanne, I think she was very hurt by her mother and that's why she never gave any interview talking about her.
I am sure there is some truth to that. I just see that Olivier escapes most criticism of dumping his first wife Jill Edmond and son Tarquin to be with Vivien. You are giving a good example of that ol' double standard torward women who leave a marriage with a kid. And Olivier escapes criticism by you for doing the same thing. smh- lol
I agree 100%
suzanne still lives in the uk [dorset area] i believe
Suzanne favored her Daddy in looks: so what?
Didn't Vivien Leigh have a son with Lawrence Olivier? Or is my memory a bit dotty?
No, they did not have children together. She had two miscarriages, if the written record on that is accurate. Laurence had one son with Jill Esmond, his first wife, Tarquin Olivier, and I think one or two with his third wife, Joan Plowright.
No. She lost two babies but in the Scotty Bowers book they might not have been Larry's?
Vivien Than nice and that style ¡¡
OMG! IS THAT TRUE???
Vivien Leigh is a Real Spirit and has met More Spirits since the day her spirit left her body in 1965
I am disturbed to learn that Vivien's spirit left her body two years before she died.
@@davidcopson5800 Souls can leave their body with Jesus and do ,,,, Vivien died in 1965 I thought.
In 1967 vivian mary died
is her daughter still alive? or did she have any children
She died this march and had 3 children, Neville, Jonathan and Rupert. It is thought vivien Leigh has around 13 grandchildren. One of which made a very interesting documentary that u can find by typing in Google vivien leigj made in Japan
8proncess do you know who the man at 40 seconds is?
Yes that is robin farrington, Suzanne's husband and farther of her three children. He died in 2004
Wait sorry I tell a lie I was looking at 1:40. The man at 40 seconds is her first husband Leigh Holman who is Suzanne's farther. They remained good friends throughout. He was a barrister and they married when she was 18.
I think you mean 13 great grandchildren. Vivien had one daughter, Suzanne, who had three sons. So, Vivien had 3 grandsons only.
Miss Holman was extremely lovely, with fine bone structure. I wonder if she kept herself on the dowdy side (overweight, with unglamorous clothes or hair) because she felt at an early age she shouldn't, or couldn't, compete with her mother? There is a stunning woman under there...she just needed to lose some weight, grow her hair out, pick up an eyebrow pencil, and ask her mom to take her to the Better Dresses department of a good store. I can tell she's very pretty.
No, I don’t think anybody can tell she was pretty, in fact. Unfortunately for her, she didn’t inherit any feature from her mother. If this is not obvious to you or anybody, I don’t know what will be.
I agree with you MB T.
Vivien might have been beautiful, but she was a plagued woman. Beauty doesn’t mean a hill of beans.
No heredó la belleza de su madre. Luego está chica tuvo 3 hijos así es que esa belleza nunca fue replicada.
@mchunch lol!! I wouldn't say ugly...I think it was just the hair....
Sabía que Vivien Leigh, que como yo había nacido un 5 de noviembre, había tenido una hija Suzanne con la que no había tenido mayor relación, separada de su madre a temprana edad a raíz de los episodios cada vez más frecuentes maníaco depresivos, pero tenía entendido que esa hija había sido la también actriz Suzanne Pleshette, cuyo parecido y belleza es innegable. Es cierto eso que leí en un artículo hace ya mucho tiempo?
Is it really a good thing to be Vivien Leigh’s daughter when it is soooo obvious you are not as beautiful as your famous mother? People staring at you, looking for something that would remind them of Vivien.....and not finding any? Poor her, she took after her father. Which is not a bad thing per say but unfortunately she was Scarlet O’Hara’s daughter.....
By the way, Hollywood chose a little girl actress who looked just like Vivien in Gone with the wind.
Yes. Just imagine if she and Lerry had had at least a child. It would have been a heaven creature
@@ipercalisse579 Or not one cannot predict these things accurately all the time.
You fool! She looks like her father. She had a better and more decent life than her mother.
Desde luego, la hija no se parece fisicamente a su madre.
Vivien Leigh was a complicated woman. I would assume her relationship with her daughter was equally as complicated.
It is not always wise to assume.
I've neve met missis vivien mary hartley and so I don't how she was...but many people say she had a pretty troubled life,probably because of her health 's issues too
She was as beautiful as her mother
jajaja,,,,she was so full
What? As beautiful as her mother ??? You really mean that?
No, she wasn't.
As beautiful as her mother? Are you in your right mind?
In terms of physical appearance I do not agree.
Ameizing women.
wow she don´t look like vivien at all
Like any mother, Vivien is devoted to her child.
BS
I new she had a miscarriage.rest in peace to them godbless them.🌹🌹🌹.i never knew she had a daughter before then at the age a
of 19.at least theres plenty of beautiful vivian granchildren still around.👍🌟
She is not like her mother
@mchunch
lmao well yeah that was kind of harsh of me, but probably compared to Vivien many people would pale.
It is not easy to be mom AN actress at the same time,and in fact vivien mary hartley couldn't care of her only daughter
Missis suzanne farrington didn't take after her mom very much except light eyes and mouth' shape...probably she took after much more her father
Thank u too!i think that Suzanne is not pretty like her mother..Vvien was fantastic!i would like to be just like her but most of all i wish i were Scarlet O Hara! a real Muse.....
Vivien Leigh daughter looks nothing like her.
sorry,ugh 4 sue