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I haven't even been playing Hades 2, I'm just here for Dan's grill updates.
Let me teel ya this story. The other day I had to buy a grill for a bachelor party.......
The infusion system has some great game design bones I think cause my ape brain feels compelled to click on all of them for some reason
Hey @haelian did you notice that after you took Island getaway you were constantly regenerating mana? This means that the one weak foe every encounter is considered nearby all the time if you have island getaway. This makes the aphro mana regen boon and island getaway combo crazy good
Island Getaway is bonkers with Aphro's boons in general. Dealing double damage to every enemy in the room kinda bonkers.
Well that is super cool that it works that way (as it should, but it is EA so idk if it was working like that yet), I dont particularly think needing a duo boon to really make your magic regen crazy is worth it lol i know it does more than that. And her cast also makes her magic regen work super good by itself
Hey you know the frog will block the hex
Hey you know the frog will block the hex
#noway
No, that's not how it works. The Hex blocks the Frog
Actually the sheep eats the frog if you didn't know 🤓☝️
“The frog blocks the hex” is Hades 2’s “Viggo actually broke his toe kicking the helmet in The Two Towers”
loving the grill arc
Love how attack focused this build was that Nemesis showed up in the dps list
18:00 Counterpoint: instead of nerfing Born Gain how about making the other mana regen boons better? Imho, "never take power from the players" is always better. If someone wants to make the game harder, there are a multitude of ways to achieve it. Plus since there are not *that* many players who can do the big fears (I barely managed to do 8 up/down), at least give to the median player more tools to enjoy the game, custom tailor their run (hammer rerolls) and in general get some agency on what they want to play the way they want to play it.
At the end of the day, if, as a dev team, you see that some weapons/aspects/boons/etc of the game get skipped, rework them to make them more attractive, so that people will not want to skip/reroll them that much and you can still have the "roguelite" element.
I actually really like Island Getaway with this setup, because I noticed if I'm point blank on an enemy, and shoot a shell at them, I'll automatically pick it up, so Mel aspect feels wasted in a way.
For grilling I highly recommend using Kona carbon fiber grill mats. they help keep grease and oils from making a mess both inside your grill and on your deck (assuming you have a deck). And they can go right in the dish washer after use. Makes the grilling life much easier.
As far as I can tell the 20 second delay on Death Warrant is for when the marked foe is killed with non-critical damage. Since in that scenario the mark would go away without being transferred on death, the boon will randomly mark another if there's enemies remaining when the time is up
Duo Boons I feel should affect both gods. I'm not a fan of how in Hades 1, Curse of Nausea only helped Dio's Hangover effect. What about Ares, you know? There are some Duos in this game that have the same problem.
I agree, same for Apollo and Hephaestus. But for Zeus and Hera they have their own one for each, even if it's the same
But then you have smouldering air or mirage shot which just give free damage. I think it's fair to have one sided duos provided each God gets at least one
Like Hera and Zeus duo. You just lose your Hera boons to level up the Zeus. Which, it fits I'll admit, but it’s freaking boring and almost never useful since losing boons is never good.
The Dan monkey voice when he melts a boss/miniboss is hilarious
I feel like, in general, all of the weapons are usable without good hammers in this game. One of the biggest improvements I had hoped they would make from the first game. Obviously, the weapons are better with hammers, but ive never felt like not getting the hammer i wanted made the run a bust
Something I've recently discovered: Wolf Howl's Frenzy (inflicts the effects of your dash boon) works with smithy sprint. Combine this with other upgrades to this hex and you get a free bonk every time you hit something with your hex. Hard to get consistently, but it's fun when it happens.
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I wouldn’t recommend using a wire brush because the individual brush pieces can come off and get into food and cause major internal damage
This type of build was my first 32 heat win for underworld, it goes hard
The big hammer omega special is ABSOLUTELY getting nerfed... rest in piece
did anyone notice at 34:19 that when chronos teleported the cast moved with him?!?
idk if that's an unintended feature but that's exactly how howling soul always worked
That was utter domination. Thanks for sharing.
Hey have you seen the glitch with the skulls Destructive Array hammer, the one that makes the skulls trigger on the ground, and the Apollo + Posidion duo? It makes the dou shoot every time one of the skulls trigger.
it would be nice to get all the boons for the boons patch :P, still missing 3(?) gods as far as we know right? :P
@Haelian 25:31 why does this happen? i mean in why does legendaries (or duo boons in your case) don't appear as a first option and make us use rolls or just not get the boon in cases where we already have all of the requirements for it?
This was part of the change with the Mirror of Night and Vow of Forsaking. The best way to put it, in layman's terms, would be they altered the priority for what Boons you're offered. Think of it like this:
Pre-patch, when you are offered Boons, the game would load every possible option you could get. They would than be chosen with some level of weighted system, where you'd have to pass the 'check' for a boon to be Rare/Epic or for a Legendary/Duo to appear. But in the latter instance, this weighted system wouldn't matter if those were the only possible Boons. Sure the odds are weighted against Legendaries and Duos, but if it's the only thing in the pool, those odds are still 100.
However, this made the Vow of Forsaking, arguably, a really strong tool and not actually a detriment like intended. It eliminates unchosen Boons permanently from being offered for the rest of the run. Rather than making each individual boon choice matter and have a cost, it becomes a necessary evil to get your build online faster. You could force Duos or Legendaries extremely early this way, in a way that was not intended.
To avoid this, the Patch changed how Duos and Legendaries are rolled. Instead of it being always in the pool of choices once you have the prerequisites, you have to pass the check for it to even be considered 'in the pool' as far as your possible boon choices is concerned. But once you pass that check, it will appear
Legendaries and Duos have a set % chance to appear (after meeting the requirements). Initially, Vow of Forsaking would bypass that check if there weren't enough other boons to fill out your three options, but the devs decided that was too strong for something that's *supposed* to be making the game harder.
So now, the game still rolls that % chance to see if you get the Leg/Duo, and offers nothing if you don't get it.
@@Edc128 I see, thanks a lot!!
@@massimofoltran3154 No problem! Happy to provide some insight
@@cjsunshine Yi yi, pretty much what I was getting at without as many words lmao. In part cause I wanted to be thorough and not assume knowledge, but also just cause I yap
Hey @Haelian. Try the skull aspect of mel with a strong focus on apollo for the omega attack. It was actually a really fun and exciting run and i ended up being surprised how fun and effective the bombs are(the range with apollo is massive and hits hard).
I didnt get the apollo leggo so it wasnt full potential but I had full salvo and the explode on pickup hammers and the damage was stupid. Its similar to the rail secondary but has more potential overall.
I think hexes from other gods could be cool. Imagine an Athena hex that activated after taking a certain amount of damage (carried over through locations) or an Ares hex after dealing a certain amount of damage
Is the salvo hammer working well with this aspect ? As you throw all the skulls at once, shouldnt you always get the +60 damage of the aspect ?
I haven't used this aspect in a while but it's hard to say bc it sometimes looks like just firing the skulls too quickly in succession makes it so they don't get the aspect buff, so firing all skulls at once could possibly yield the same result, tho it might be that they're being retrieved too fast? it looked like that in the video at some moments
idk, maybe it's worth giving it a try to confirm, later
Dan's Grilling Odyssey continues.
Haelian has such a pure mind... "Making a tier list would be a waste of time" cause of the balance patch while im thinking
HADES V0.95 DUO BOON TIER LIST
HADES V0.96 UPDATED TIER LIST
In terms of things I'd like to see the boon patch change/improve: I absolutely love the idea of hephestus but I think his boons need more balancing to be more useful. Outside of smithy sprint which (I BELIEVE) can be used pretty much every time you hold down dash, the cooldown is just too punishing for most weapons.
I've had some really fun runs with hephy (had his flourish for my first win too) but these days I mostly use his defense boons instead of his (still fun, but only useful in certain situations) offense boons. Great god, the concept is cool as hell but I think I'd even prefer a lower base dmg if it made the cooldown rate lower too.
Other than that, maybe making duo boons/legendaries easier to get? And I agree about hestia too
you know never have left a comment before on your channel but love the content. no Hades 2 fans in my friend group so nice to see others that love the same game
Thought: Possessed Array + Keen Intuition + Priming all your magic. Would it work? I know it'd be kinda tricky to pull off
Hey man i just wanted to ask for some help. I do bot have any computer to play games and i can only play hades 1 on my mobile and i got some decent procces but i dont know which weapon is easier to use in mobile since the controls are harder compared to pc
I think its "to scoff at" not to sniff at 30:46
also what's nomad, mentioned at 31:34
or "to sneeze at"
He said no magick, not nomad
@@ValToadstool ohhhhhhh
I keep hearing the term origination used by Dan, but I missed what this means. Can someone explain what it means to "apply origination" via the boons?
Yeah, I used this build to get my first 32 fear win. I feel it's the easiest to do it. The aspect of Mel for the Axe with the same vow setup is also good.
I think this build should be good at 32 heat. Any chance we'll see it here?
today in the livestram he made two succesful 40 fear with Engraved pin! should be a video soon
@@AlexandreDuqueque awesome, thank you very much
I think the infusion system would work best if they kept scaling like Poms do, the more of an element the better. Let Wispy Wiles or whatever work with just one of each element, but make it stronger the more of that element you have.
Also, with this aspect, wouldn't it be best to fire all but like 1-2 skulls into the corner and then just reuse 1-2 really high damage skulls rather than 5 weaker ones?
I'd make born gain a percentage rather than the 5-10 flat it primes. Doesn't completely nerf it and maybe increase the values of the others.
Hey Haelian I've watch ya for awhile but I wanted you too try a build with aspect of Melinoe, I got 174,895 damage with omega special and 57,744 damage for omega attack!
Does full salvo not cause all attacks to always deal max damage from aspect of Mel? That's how I read it.
Yeah, tbh you probably are overrating the Aphro attack boost just a little bit. I can't really say anything since I did too, but recently I have been watching Foolish's 50 fear runs (I recommend others to check them out as well if they are interested) and I was struck by how they basically always take Hera's keepsake even for stuff like Thanatos or the torch special and I started trying myself and it feels really good, especially as I started pushing my fear up.
One thing is that Hitch is actually really good. It's a status which is nice for getting origination up early and needing less boons is always good on higher fear. It's also pretty much a multiplicative 30% (just thought about it and realized it's way more than 30%, its a 30(n-1)% where n is the number of enemies you are hitting so it's actually potentially a 60 percent bonus against the sirens if you can hit all three of them at the same time) bonus against encounters (and the sirens). Also Hera offers the earth/rock element, which is good because the most universally powerful infusion boon is Demeter's and its really really powerful. So as it turns out Hera/Demeter/Hephaestus is actually a really powerful core in general. Now Hera also has a ton of really bad secondary boons if you ever have the misfortune of seeing her twice. But Aphro is arguably nearly as bad. Hera has a couple of standout boons notably hereditary bane (for a bigger multiplier on hitch), nasty comeback, and a late bridal glow. Aphro has her cast - but usually you try to force demeters since freeze is better than weak and it does damage and removes vow of rebuke - and she has Sweet Surrender but it's not that good and you need to get a source of weak for it which you do not want to get - and she has an early Life Affirmation and one of Heartbreaker or Secret Crush (but not both) which is better than Hera tbf, but you don't really want to see either of them twice and even if you do the difference does not make up for hitch ime.
Aphro is much more competitive on lower fear though tbf but even still I think Hera might edge her out for the skull/axe/torch from at least a consistency standpoint. I think Aphro is probably still better for a basic attack build on the daggers since when I tried Hera on them it didn't feel good, probably because they didn't have the AOE to really take advantage of hitch (and by extension a basic attack build on the staff also probably stills wants Aphro as well).
I feel like using magick is plenty incentivized, the problem is that it has anti-synergy with several fear vows. and obviously high fear is not the optimal or intended primary way to play, but magick usage ability and fear level are inversely proportional to each other. i may just not be remembering, but i don't think that hades 1 had any game mechanics that were hit by ramping heat as badly as magick is by ramping fear in hades 2. yes, you would mostly focus on one thing for highest dps, but the deadline was the biggest limiting factor in why you'd focus on just one way to strike, not that the pact conditions were making it impossible to use some of the ways to deal damage. i hope they make changes to the oath because way too many vows currently hit magick in the worst way and make it a borderline unusable mechanic
Why only one boon at 25:30 ?
When will this game go on console?
I wonder if anyone’s beaten max Fear yet
If you know, you know.
i see in a lot of videos saying zues is not that good ..why is that ? i think he is really strong and i use him in most weapons
Why only one boon at 25:30 ?