These Characters Absolutely BROKE Their Games
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The lore of Cyber Akuma comes from the comics with Apocalypse. Just like how Apocalypse took Angel from the comics and converted him to Archangel, he converted Akuma to Cyber Akuma.
At first I assumed this would be a Majin Vegeta situation where he despite the increased power he isn’t fallen under Apocalypse’s thumb. The win quotes of Cy-Akuma say otherwise and somehow the idea of the perpetually unaligned Akuma falling under someone’s sway is terrifying.
I always thought it was the techno organic virus like Cable
@@myriadmediamusingsSF6 Akuma would be so maaaad if he found out.
Exactly, he is supposed to be the Horseman of Death
Archkuma
Secret characters should be so broken they come out of the game screen and personally beat my ass.
I was gonna say those are all secret characters
Someone has a kink
That gotta be kinky right ?
Does US Agent have anything different than Cap?
Or is it literally just Captain America painted black?
@@StarForceBelmont321 How win quotes are different. That's literally it.
Sakura doing a simultaneous backturn pose with Akuma like he's a proud uncle is the funniest shit, I love it lol.
Makes sense.
After all, Ryu is Sakura's "daddy" 😏
@@DarkOverlord96🤨
@@DarkOverlord96 2016 ass comment
Akuma adopting kids be like:
I love how armored Spider-man has showed up in like five or six, maybe more video games over the course of like 30 years but in the actual comics it showed up for like one page in one issue. The armor gets immediately broken.
Armored Spider-Man is from the finale episode of the 90's Spider-Man Animated series. He's from a different dimension where Uncle Ben didn't die and Parker made his identity public.
@@leithaziz2716Your both right 616 Peter did wear the suit for one second before it got broken while the alternate Peter from the 90s version adopted it full time.The 90s armoured Peter died and then came back maybe.
@@leithaziz2716he’s talking about the comics bro
Of course.
A Desk video. I love this guy's combo vids.
One of the OG combo artist CZcamsr that got popular in SFIV era.
He is a bassist too, check out his band project dolphin. Does lot of cool jazz fusion stuffs and fighting game OST covers.
@@invertbridthat's so cool
19:15 - I believe what happened is after Magento striped the Adamantium from Wolverine and Prof X thought he killed him, the Prof flipped out and mind wiped Magneto to press the reset button on him in order make him good again.
However, when he did it the darkest parts of Magneto's psyche slipped into the professor and merged and festered in the darkness of his subconscious and eventually manifested itself as Onslaught.
Accurate.
Yup, that happened!
Oh man. I’m only just realizing this might be part of X-Men ‘97 S2.
@@shinesparkss5193 I frigging hope so!!!
@@in4mus85 Same, man! The show has been so good so far, Onslaught and Apocalypse in the SAME SEASON would be insanely hype
Max: "You wanna know Cyber Akuma lore? They were BROKE. The End".
“Whats the difference between Blackheart and Mephisto?”
Mephisto can cancel Spider-Man marriage.
Gets even more ridiculously hilarious when they eventually did add a real reason Mephisto wanted to end the Spider-Marriage aside from for the evulz.
Goddammit 😂
Mephisto's the biggest hater outside of Marvel editorial
Underrated ass comment, holy shit 😂
Oof!
22:39 Fun Fact: Roll is the only secret character in MVC1 with her own theme instead of the blanket secret character theme
Funny thing about it is Protoman, Bass and even Duo from Megaman 8 all had their chance at being playable in the Arcade Megaman 2 the Power Battle when you think about it technically speaking. Then Roll gets her chance in the big crossover MVC1.
And not to mention its a vocal theme
I believe it was taken from Rockman Complete Works.
@@brandonwilliams6119It’s funny since one of Roll’s win quotes is her saying she should have been in Power Battle
@@KuroNoTenno Close but not correct. While the song did appear in specifically the Complete works version of Mega Man 6, not only did MVC1 come out before all of the complete works, the song debuted in an unlockable Karaoke mode in Mega Man Battle and Chase
Random bit of trivia: The Shadow characters in the MvC series are a riff on the iconic Kamen Rider franchise. Shadow Charlie's backstory is basically identical to the original Kamen Rider, Takeshi Hongo: An evil organization kidnaps a man and turns him into a cyborg supersoldier, but he escapes before they can brainwash him into obedience and uses his newfound powers to fight against them. Meanwhile, "Shadow Jin" from Shadow Lady's MvC ending is a riff on Kamen Rider V3's Shiro Kazami, with Jin getting mortally wounded by the villains and the two existing Shadows being forced to turn him into a cyborg like themselves to save his life.
Now that I think of it, Shadow Lady's drill arm could be a ref to Riderman, and her electric move to KR Stronger.
I demand every fighting game have a mandatory Kamen Rider homage character. If there can be a mandatory Bruce Lee clone, there can be a Kamen Rider clone.
And Kamen Rider's Author made Takeshi Hongo's backstory eerily similar to one of his previous works' central premise, Cyborg 009.
An evil organization kidnaps 9 humans and makes them cyborgs, and they decide to rebel and go to war against the evil organization to free the world.
@@uberlephrad8218 That's a trope in all of Ishinomori's superhero work
I think the MvC announcements have just, restored Max's soul, and it's so lovely to see.
It seems like after MvsC came back from the dead, Max has turned his CZcams channel back to a MvsC CZcams channel once again. Proud for the guy he seems happy.
You really love to see it!
Now we need max vs the world again! The old vid with mike ross is great! Dios was in that one..really talented mvc2 players played...someone brought out servebot nd went to work!!
The Pokemon Flashing episode is fascinating because research suggest the large majority of children checking in to the hospital where doing so due to mass hysteria and reverse placebo.
I heard that too.
I still think that Porygon got the short end too.
Remember all it did was get hit BY lightning from Pikachu but it was banned for being in the show ever again when it was not the instigator nor the cause other than being a target.
Can cancel the mascot so scapegoat it's victim.
I introduced my friends to MVC1. I used Red Venom to put all of them into infinites to properly introduce them to the game. Lol
Man...what ashholeness
I chuckled as I imagined their facial expressions realizing the fuckery of mvc
Did they ever play with you again
MVC is one of those games I can still enjoy even if I’m getting comboed to death or even suffering an infinite lmao.
Just spamming the big bite alone.
"mvc1 balanced" that got a legit laugh out of me
The kinda dude to look you in the eye and tell you SF2 is a fair and honest game
"are any of the mvc games balanced" is the one that got me the most 💀
its very cute how many people in the chat ask max about if certain character is playable lol
@@otsu3011 yeah like who wants to play as nightcrawler 😂😂😂
Max, literally nobody knows this but the design inspiration comes from another game. Cyber Akuma also known as Z-Gouki was a secret mech character from Cyberbots which was released on the sega saturn 4 months prior (March 28, 1997) to marvel super heroes vs street fighter.
Literally? This isn't secret information
@dealt everyone including the internet thinks the street fighter version came first. The problem is that cyber akuma refers to a street fighter character where as the cyberbot version refers to something completely different. Max admittedly doesn't mention where they drew the inspiration from
Man, I used to thought it's the other way around
I find it funny how Desk and Max only remember Cyber Akuma coming back in SFV... but not in UMVC3 lol
I thought that. He ran him all the time 😂.
Desk is a scientist. He has a masters degree in Combology and a Just-Frame Specialist.
Max saying Jubilee is one of the coolest X-Men characters makes me so so happy.
I hope that in the event of an MvC4 being made that Jubilee is a playable character because I would main her
@@DestinedhellfireQuestion is now they should do her. Ordinary Jubes or Vampire Jubes?
@@Destinedhellfire if she's not a Zoner I will also main her.
@@myriadmediamusings just do both tbh. Two separate characters. Like Wolverine and Boneclaw Wolverine I will pay for them both since that would be much more work than Wolverine/Bone Claw Wolverine
Blackheart/Mephisto
@@myriadmediamusings Ordinary but with Vampire as an alt costume
Onslaught remained dormant for some time. Gradually, Xavier's frustration with his dream of mutant-human peace and harmony began to increase, exacerbated by the daily growth of anti-mutant hysteria, the deaths of dozens of mutants from the lethal Legacy Virus, and his own failed attempt to rehabilitate the mutant sociopath called Sabretooth. Xavier reached his breaking point when anti-mutant humans killed a young mutant near the grounds of the Xavier Institute for Higher Learning, the secret base of the X-Men. It was at this point that Onslaught awakened within Xavier and began to manifest himself to others
TvC always cracked me up with the 27.5 BILLION damage! 😂
Thank god we're gonna be able to turn of the flashing lights in the collection cause holy shit man watching this video hurts my eyes
I forgot how bad it was, good gravy....
Dunno how the heck I put up with this as a kid.
@@myriadmediamusings Monitor differences. CRT vs flat digital I think mattered a lot.
and yet we didnt die and powered through lol youll survive
@@Mangelriosdeleon Photo sensitivity and epilepsy are no joke. There's games I've had to return because it gave me a piercing migraine and I felt sick.
I dont care what version of X-Men Vs. SF we get in the collection. I'm just happy to be able play it again after 20 years
Easily the one I’m excited for the most in the collection.
Its crazy cause 1998 was the last time XvSF got a port.
I've actually heard people put dark Sakura on a much higher tier than regular in MVC2 mainly because her teleport has 0 recovery and you can do some wild stuff with that
Was coming into comment this, Dark Sak is a much better character than regular Sakura. 0 frame teleport, better Supers, better specials and higher damage, if you're picking Sakura you're stupid if you don't use Dark Sak
This is what makes secret characters so fun and enjoyable to play against and as during the arcade matches even when playing online. And plus big shout out to the artist that did the cover of the marvel versus Capcom cover
Secret characters of this magnitude seem to be part of that era of gaming, as I highly doubt they’d fly or even be put into modern fighting games.
Like say if we were to get New MvC or XMvSF2, I don’t think we’d see something so broken like back then.
Yeah it was a gimmick back then really
Secret characters in general can't really be used effectively anymore since the internet will have exactly how to get them before the game even releases. It's a shame, but it's reality.
@@theotherjared9824Agreed, there was just something so magical of the arcade games of the time between the playground stories of wild rumors, and the feeling of suddenly encountering the likes of Reptile or Akuma because of near-impossible win conditions.
Internet utterly ruins all of that now. L
Depends if you count SF6's secret Akuma taunt upgrade as a secret character or not. It's a fun way to try and do that at least.
@@theotherjared9824Also we live in the age of DLC and internet leaking.
Btw, I'm 25 and in Portugal I didn't get to play arcades or fighting games in my childhood. But thanks to this dood I've gotten into fighting games since 2015, which was a hard year for me. Started with USF4 and then UMVC3 on PS4. I'm just a casual but I love fighting games and I love how Capcom designs their characters and fighting games mechanics. Looking forward to get into TVC too. It's Mahvel baby !!!
The only fighting game to be 100% balanced was Street Fighter 1, since you could only play Ryu vs Ken.
I'm still waiting on Rival Schools
I need to find a way to work "you cannot stop me with paramecium alone" into a conversation.
The moment I saw Tomichin at the very end I instantly though "OK, how long until some sprite modder turns Tomichin into Max & makes him a usable assist, thereby inserting Max into MvC1?".
tbh the concept of mods for these older games is really exciting, has there been any insight into doing it for the other collections yet or does it seem unlikely?
I want to continue on a little from my previous comment: ...Since we have Terry and Mai in the Capcom Universe now canonically...Does that mean that, in a potential new Marvel vs Capcom (vs SNK), we will get Fatal Fury representatives? 🤔 Are we going to get a potentially gigantic fighting game from some crazy places!? 🤔 There's so much potential!
Yeah I can imagine a MVC having Not Marvel nor Capcom guest characters, like how Injustice has non DC characters in it and stuff
36:48 I knew who Strider was because my dad's best friend had the first game on the Sega Genesis...but I had forgotten about him until he showed up in MvC1. I also knew who Captain Commando was because i saw his game in the arcades as a child...but again, it had been years at that point.
I'd love it if in MvC4, if they brought back Ryu being able to transform into "Ken" and "Akuma" forms for 1 bar like he could in MvC1.
I think its funny how the flashes were like crack to my eyes as a kid, but now pushing forty it's like fucking sand paper over my cornea.
So glad they have the setting to turn off flashing, my eyes hurt watching this but love the video max
Cyber Akuma is also a costume in Marvel vs Capcom 3
Armored Spiderman also showed up in that Spiderman Animated series episodes where they have to fight Spider Carnage
Gosh I love desk videos. They are always such a treat when they release! And the production value is high on them too!
love that background art
Cyclops Vs Ryu
Chun vs Psylocke?
Cpt America vs Cpt Commando
Spider man Vs Morrigan... for some reason
Zangief vs Venom
Victor von Doom Vs Bison
Gouki vs Thanos
Iron Man Vs Mega man
Storm Vs Strider Hiryu
Wolverine vs Tron Bonne
Nice
Spider-Man and Morrigan definitely had something going on through the entire series.
@@theotherjared9824Capcom heard how much those wackjob writers at marvel for amazing and their fraud creation Paul has put him through so they decided to let peter get some demonussy (I'm sorry and not sorry for that sentence)
Groovy
Devilotte Mech is a pendant in Monster Hunter World
Red Venom my beloved
If they do Marvel 4, I'd like a combination of the groove system and some mechanics in prior MvC's/CvS.
Like CvS2 you could choose whether to have 1, 2 or 3 characters to use: 1 character would give you more health (like CvS2), access to cancelling specials into specials and a parry or counter move to help against teams that use multiple characters. 2 characters would give your teams slightly less health than a single character and you'd have access to MvCI's/PR:BftG/2XKO active tag system. Then 3 characters would be like UMvC3's with ability to call in assists and do DHC/THC or wall bounce combos.
That way there's a way to play for everyone, as not every player enjoys 2v2 or 3v3. Would love to see that compared to an overly complicated traditional groove system. Simplified from CVS but expanded
Even though Norimaro isn’t in the MvC collection fans will find a way to mod him in.
The ending with just the empty corner lol
I'd cry if we got assist me, the comeback or something like that
Minute 26:53: There is missing information there. The palette swap of Morrigan with Lilith´s colour scheme became canon in a series of mangas Capcom released a few years ago. In that manga it is revealed that when Morrigan and Lillith fuse (DBZ style) into one being that is the appearence the fusion takes, as Morrigan is the dominant one. It even has an oficial model kit.
A new MvC game with playable Nightcrawler would be a dream!
God, I'd love to see these games remade. Properly upscaled to 1080p, with all new sprites SO MORRIGAN CAN FINALLY GET ONE
Yeah!
Not to sound thirsty or anything, but gonna be cool to see Mai in SF6. I didn’t like her design much in KOFXV. I like the SF6 art style more. Been playing Vampire Savior a lot recently, I still play with Morrigan a lot. But been labbing w/ others.
24:08 now that we freed MVC2, we need to free Tatsunoko vs Capcom, this time with the full roster!
The ending made me laugh how it usually zooms in on maxs cam in the top corner and this time nothing was there cause he was at the bottom 😂
Cyber Akuma also appears in Marvel VS Capcom 3 and Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3, where he is a DLC costume for Akuma.
Desk is godlike. In every iteration, he has infinites, infinite good videos.
One thing I always thought was cool was how both Arthur and Thor were strikers in MvC1 but when they became playable in MvC3 they had the moves they'd used as Strikers.
so many characters I never really got the chance to mess around with, will definitely be trying them out in MVC collection first chance I get! had no idea shadow charlie and shadow lady both had raging demon-style screen kills!
I worked at an arcade in 97. Had this racing game that looked like Stunt Race FX from the SNES with the Mode 7 graphics and the 3d sprites. Well it also had flashing effects and children would have seizures all the time. So yea it's def a thing that happened a lot until the insurance companies got involved.
Sometimes I look up combo videos from time to time just to get some motivation to get better at fighting games
The Simpsons making a joke about that Pokemon episode will NEVER in my lifetime not be hilarious though.
Its relaxing listening to the song and have Max tell stories over it.
41:43 - they called Darkstalker's Revenge a Beat-em-up. XD
Probably british, they cal fighting games "beat em ups" and beat em us they call "brawlers".
"This should have less flashing...IT DOES NOOOOOOOOOT!"
Perfect timing.
21:15 - I remember reading somewhere Orange Hulk was a reference to The Thing because they wanted him & the Human Torch in the game but didn't have time.
Onslaught first manifestated himself to Jean Grey. His first real goal was to turn X-Men to his side, by showing them how the world was really full of hypcrisy and duplicity. Starting with Jean, Onslaught pulled her into his psychic realm while she was in the middle of conversation in a shopping center, he reasurred her that although she didn't know him they had much to discuss, Jean wasn't really convinced but decided to play along in order to learn more about the entity, Onslaught started by showing her how none of the people in the mall were actually concerned for her safety, even if she had just randomly dissapeared, he even fired a fake blast at the building to release his frustrations, he then took Jean to the anti-mutant presidential campaign of Graydon Creed, showing him how his main advisor didn't really have any ideology regarding mutants, mocking the fact that the X-Men's "Dream" would never reach people like him. Jean countered saying that he wasn't really surprising him by showing her any of this and defended that despite there being people who would never change, Proffesor X's beliefs still were just
Quickest way to see if MvC1 has flicker reduction on or off is to check the color of the super background during a duo team attack. Full flicker/flash is rotating rainbow color and flicker/flash off is just red.
I hope they sell a poster of that art because it's so sick
“And who knows all the secret character codes? Dios do!” 🤣
"This should have less flashing."
*ROYAL FLUSH*
Man I love me some Mecha gief. Also learned something new about being able to choose your assists in mvc1. Can't wait for the collection.
The mvc collection cannot drop soon enough
The Orange Piccolo Orange Hulk connection is blowing my brain rn 22:01 and also Orange Hulk looks like Reg Hulk when he’s taking damage
looking forward to all the mvc series videos
I’ve actually always thought, ever since I was a kid, that Nightcrawler would be the perfect addition to a MvC fighting game.
Who is "Nightstalker"? The only Marvel entries I could find are a team of part-vampire warriors/detectives led by Blade...
If you meant "Nightcrawler," I 100% agree.
@@adrianhendricks772 yep that’s what I meant
I WANT THAT MVC COLLECTION WALLPAPER BACKGROUND!!!!! It’s so amazing….
Please make a tier list of the top 10 or 20 most broken characters in fighting game history
DUDE Deskcombo vids are my fav!!!
Jesus Crist, i didnt play many fighting games but i vaguely remember trying to fight Metal Zangeif as a friends house as a kid, I had a time with it to say the least lol.
Hey Max! Love your videos, have for years! With the MvC collection coming out, a suggestion for a video might be a breakdown of the MvC2 characters and assists! With a huge roster and three assists per character, it's hard to tell which is best to use for each character for different team set-ups.
Secret character always be OP as hell
So, what's the best (noob friendly) way to get into these vs games now? I know the collection is coming out soon, but I have never played an assist fighter, so I want to play around a bit before the collection drops.
Not having vergil in the thumbnail is crazy.
Any idea when the game collection will actually drop?
oh boy i can't wait to go online in MVC1 and get my ass beat by photoshop recolors
24:34 would love to see you rank these supers! They get pretty creative!
This was fascinating and really gave me nostalgia for the 90’s when I played all these games in arcades as a kid with my dad.
Ngl I always liked the flashing cuz it made supers feel more powerful like they are so explosive you can’t look at them. But I get why they’re frowned upon now
I would love to have a sit down chat/fighting game session with you
Max we need a video on what characters would you include in MVC4 like a full roster please
Seeing Max chuckle at Roll's TvC Level 3 makes me realize, we never did get a 'Rate the Super' for TvC did we?
This was one of my favorite parts of these kind of games, the hidden secrets and weird characters ❤❤
39:01 Hope when working on MVC&B, we can get Thor's classic costume that he had in MVC3 but never carried over.
The amount of flashing lights in this video would probably kill a victorian child
Will the MvC collection have all these secret characters? That would be cool if they could. I saw Cyber Akuma and some others but I wonder about the rest
Hands down,the best CZcams gamer intro !
1:58 wasn't Cyber-Akuma a costume in MvC3?
Me: *watches new Max vid on my birthday*
Max: *calls a game from my birth year ancient*
Thanos having no air throw was a big downside.
I don't know how, but as a young child, I was able to consistently find Roll on the character select in the (ABSURDLY loud) PS1 port. Her and Mega Man were always my favorite characters. I don't remember playing anyone else as strongly, but Venom and Gambit probably made strong impressions.
Pretty much apocalypse made Akuma into one of his four horsemen.
I'm telling you this collection that's coming out is going to be one of the greatest of all time😊
Max is your theme on Spotify? Because I would like to have it in my ear holes
Desk combos are great!