[Hearthstone] The Most Innovative Deck of the Year!
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10:37 If you hate hearing Kripp talking
but I dont
Shivdini Good for u
Shivdini Yeah I know
Shivdini Fak u m8
ty m8
This was one of my favorite decks, the good old days. Not sure why CZcams recommended me a 5 year old hs video, but here I am binging them now
I played a mirror match of this deck that lasted 40 minutes, best game of my life.
@@targetbuddy5 very well could be me ;p Loved this deck back in a day.
CZcams gonna CZcams
A deck that actually takes advantage of the mechanics of the game instead of relying on a 15-20 dmg combo? is this still HearthStone?
But he did rely on a combo to kill the Pally in the last game so yes this is still Hearthstone.
***** did he?
15-20 dmg combo? Since the Leeroy nerfs there's what, reliably druid who do that. Zoo never did, hunter is bursty but not that bursty, handlock very rarely has burst, miracle got smashed etc. Shit even warsong is broken atm.
I think your living in the past.
You kinda forgot a deck that isn't zoo aswell
James Taylor you' re
had to go back to watch a video from the old days. so much nostalgia remembering watching this the day it was uploaded, when i still liked hearthstone and when kripp was excited about constructed decks
FeelsStrongMan
Yep, the good times. I’m on a binge of Kripp’s old hearthstone videos. I can’t stand Battlegrounds, and I think modern Hearthstone is garbage.
Miracle Rogue was another really innovative and fun to play deck, shame it has been nerfed to death.
No, it was cancer, not innovative.
NorthWind Studios It was cancer, but it was very creative, original cancer. It's the most complex type of deck that Hearthstone has seen so far (which isn't saying much, of course).
Deck still somewhat playable. It's now more of a Violet Teacher Beatdown than its former Leeroy Cold Blood combo.
***** The difference is, this one has been played very little and it's new, where that one was used by everyone. So it got old. And thus became not innovative.
NorthWind Studios It *was* innovative, though, unlike virtually every other deck out there, past and present. That's the point.
only deck i've ever seen without dr. boom
Face hunter ?
joona pylkkänen Well I guess it depends as my brother had a face hunter deck that was sort of verging on mid-ranged with Dr. boom in it.
+Jack Khan freeze mage? oil rogue?
+Денис Мельцаев People still play oil rogue?
***** At which ranks?
All this title is saying that this deck is the most innovative deck of the last three days.
I think that's the joke :)
lass7212 I would agree with you except that Kripp reflected on the past year for deck innovation since GvG in a previous video called "GvG Season 1: An Overview" and stated that none of the decks within the past year have been innovative besides his mill druid which wasn't good enough to stand up to aggro and up until recently this one. Furthermore he mention within this video at 1:03, that this is the most innovative deck since giants mage literally a year ago. Therefore I conclude that though it can be viewed as an intended joke, it is more likely that it is a reflection on the past year and not this one.
Kripp, it is simply awesome that you create or at least spread unknown decks that are really innovative! This discovers the real potential of this game, really you're a huge contribution to the community!
I guess you could say this was innervative...
Haha I see what u did
This is the first true Turtle deck I've seen in Hearthstone. Glad to see another TCG archtype.
Kripp calls anyone who netdecks losers ruining the game. Netdecks and ranks up with someone else's deck.
At least he isn't playing cancer
He is doing it because he likes the deck and thinks it is fun though, not just "because its the best right now". He normally avoids doing net decks at all costs.
Netdecking is partly a result of the F2P to be honest. Zoo and other cheap mech decks are the way they are because people can't afford the more expensive decks.
zhifago No, its not.
Make a deck with the cards you have and don't worry about what cards someone else would use
I'm starting to dislike Kripp's personality and double standards more with each video. The only reason I still follow him is because most of the topics of his videos are interesting enough to look past the person talking.
zhifago Well that's just bullshit. Every single card game, physical or not, is filled with netdeckers at all levels of play, reagardless of the cost of the deck. By your logic no-one would ever, ever netdeck a Control Warrior deck therefor you'd never be able to see one in ladder, and that's just a lie.
i like the way that around 22:15 he wipes out a pair of giants and taunts and such, then mournfully says 'that was the only way to clear'
that also happens to be a move very few people would even be capable of thinking up in that time.
Great video! I love this deck now. Use it all the time. I made only one change due to the consistent matches I was getting. I removed Ooze and added Ancient of War. I was not seeing many weapons over a 3 days span and the Ancient was a real nightmare for my opponents, even if they had to use a silence and leave the 5/5 on the board. It pretty much pushed me past two extra turns and left the opponent holding more draws which led to stronger milling. Either way, great deck and video. Thanks for posting this.
This deck stands out for having absolutely 0 RNG in it aside from card draw. I expected that of this game; where enough cards would see print it would be possible to build decks without any RNG at all and the fact you plays are completely non-random is a huge advantage.
You can do that with mostly (non-RNG) minions too and that won't work a lot of the time.
sinephase That is because most of the really game changing effects in the game have been made random. To have a strong deck you wind up having to rely on them. Many of them you can mitigate the randomness somewhat and such cards usually wind up being the best in the game. However this deck is going completely the other direction and rather than trying to do anything gamebreaking to win it instead just shuts the game down completely. If Druid ever gets a better board wipe than Poison Seeds this will be a really brutal deck.
@@PatriciaCross Years late to this comment, but as the deck creator this was the most insightful comment about the deck I had the pleasure of reading.
I remember trying to make a deck with this concept a while back, glad someone with the cards managed to make one!
I've tried replacing one of the starfires with a force of nature. I find it works well because a) its potentially 1 more point of damage, and b) it doesn't cause you to draw, which can actually be an advantage with this deck at some point. It obviously has some disadvantages as well (ie. sometimes they have a taunt, or sometimes you'll waste a point of damage), but I think one is a valid consideration.
What are you eating there Kripp ? I can't even make out what type of food it is, let alone the actual dish.
I am also curious.
Looks like mini pizzas or some shit to me
It looks like greek ntakos where you can put wholegrain bread or crisp-bread,some veggies like lettuce, tomato slices, feta cheese,oregano and olive oil after, and maybe some a bit before to soak the bread. It's freagin delicious
Giorgio M thanks
Well, aren't those just sandwiches?
I wonder what an updated version of this deck would be for LoE. Reno op?
I love watching you talking about the decks or specific cards i mean ive been playing for a while but im still an idiot looking for a really good way to learn and get better...this seems good
I haven't seen Kripp this amused for some time. Fun deck!
What the fuck is he eating? It's like bright red like the wax on cheese but i dont even know...
***** its marmelade i think,i was eating the same thing :)
+FogellofDot Looks like a big strawberry to me.
+FogellofDot looks like a pomegranate or something like that.
+FogellofDot Looks like meatloaf tbh
3x3 this nigga a vegan doe
I love the budget on this deck
Not a long time ago i encountered druid with this deck at rank 15. I was playing my own deck (controlly- stealy type of priest) and i was surprised about difficulty of the matchup. The game went into fatique, and i finally beaten him with his own creature. I was quite impressed by the effectivity of his deck in a mill vs control matchup.
This deck is beautifully insidious. The very idea of sidestepping the direct confrontation is just so brilliant when applied to Hearthstone.
No, Kripp. Stop lying. We all know the hand zoo guy was the most innovative by far.
20:00 what if 5 damage starfall giant, coin then hero power giant. pretty good clear.
Holy shit is this a constructive comment on a CZcams video?
Pseudo Arch
There are actually plenty of quality comments on youtube, problem is you dont go to quality channels thats why u dont see those quality comments.
Because Hero power costs two, and also taking 7 to the face is usually not appealing to the player.
Seems like you've already banged enough, like... all over your head-region.
kibateo
Nono, they don't attach themselves to quality channels.
They just get flooded in everything else.
Been playing this deck the past week or so, surprisingly high win rate - something like 60-70% at rank 7. Still moving up. Great find!
I think this deck is fascinating and despite being long the games are extremely entertaining. Please, show us some more games with it ^^
Wow, this deck looks INFURIATING to play against... Well played trollstone I guess...
How long can he chew the same bite?
21:15 - 22:05 Dat play, man. Very good one.
Another amazingly innovative deck is darkwonyx's warlock deck. It's played in the current esl and it includes twisting nether, mistress of pain, demon heart, fel cannon and a few other wierd combos. More shockingly it doesn't include cards you'd expect, such as a voidterror for a demonlock or flame imps for zoo or any aspects of handlock. It's currently 4-5 in the esl games.
I have no money to invest in this game, but my idea of a deck was a norzdormu + double sludge belcher + mogor the ogre, and make it so that anything your opponent plays\ attacks takes a long time to do, and they don't have time to make any brilliant plays. Good idea?
That would be funny. It would also be a great counter to a Gadgetzan or two Northshire Clerics... I had Nozdormu for a few days before I disenchanted it. It was a fun card but more annoying than anything else. If it gets polymorphed you have to endure the rest of the game with the particle effect :/ It's better to get Onyxia, as one of many examples. Then they have to worry about an 8/8 and a bunch of whelps you might buff with savage roar.
Nozdormu isnt any good now if it was 10seconds instead of 15 it would be so op. You could make your spells last for an entire turn of the enemy with lorewalker cho and keep doing that until you win
Thmyris
Nozdormu plus multiple Lorewalker cho with faceless is hilarious because it causes some gamebreaking bugs. There's a Randuin Wrynn episode of this on Noxious' channel. There was a point where the game was so bugged his opponent had 8 minions on the field.
i don't know why but i lose a ranked (18) versus this deck. this is your fault Kripparrian
I lost too in ranked against that twice (the same guy 2 times in a row) at rank 9
Lucas Mercier *cough cough* it's cause you're bad (no offense)
I'm rushed rank 8 in 1 day and I'm bad ? D:
Lucas Mercier "rushed"? i wonder with what deck you did that Kappa
Giant :D
Honestly love your videos! your the reason why I started my own theory crafting instead of just playing Tempo Mage all day... seriously ty for all your great content.
most innovative deck of the year
3 days into 2015
ggwp, Kripp
Hate me for it, but I like kripps explanations, I don't understand people who talk shit about his talk in the first part of the videos, like people just searching for a reason to talk shit about him, it's just beyond my understanding.
What the hell is he eating in the second video
either a cookie or a slice of pizza.
so nice to see you in a great mood kripp =)
Nice skill in burning the Tirion, Kripp.
I love you kripp.
I have tried playing this deck, but all that happens is that I get shit draws.
Update: Holy shit this deck is awful.
ajaxtaur Dancers who cant' dance say the floor is crooked.
StarkeRealm Dancers who dance on crooked floors their whole lives don't know what they're missing.
It's pretty fun, I put in a Malorne in order to stop my own fatigue damage and to actually have a threat on the board, but it has been faceless'd, mind controlled polymorphed and hexed a few too many times now.
Man, at 25:35 its more amusing to watch Kripp eat and behave on camera than the actual game :D
If you build a fatigue deck there's no point on not running Malorne, you never fatigue
The deck is too reliant on combos and low-mana cost cards. Malorne really doesn't do anything besides what you've said.
Wilson You don't use it, you just keep it for the fatigue games. You see the last game could have not gone very much in kripp's favor, malorne would be extremely useful because kripp would have not entered fatigue
you dont understand
it is a dead card kripp doesn't ever die to fatigue. He dies to lack of control. His cards are also weak nothing you would slience which make mal a good target.
Yeah i get it. But i would still play him for the funzies
10:37
i faced this deck once and actually managed to make it mill a card without getting milled myself! (was using a full beast hunter deck with mukla, played it right after opponent played grove tender, then he lost his starfire) At that point I knew what I was facing and made a point to keep my hand small
i think the deck is really cool and its great to see something like it running around out there.
I made my my own variant of this after I saw the vid, first game was a hour long mirror. Most interesting game I've had, the one who first uses tree of life loses. Fatigue damage was 15 in the end.
I don't have Tree of Life, there's a way to use another card instead of that?
black knight
LiangHuBBB or thalnos, both are ok
I got both in my deck
Alexstraza?
nope alex is bad in this deck :P
Anyone have any idea what he was eating?
HammerOfDan looks like a slice of bread with some jam on it
Bruniastys or strawberies
Bruniastys or lettuce
Bruniastys or tomatos
Bruniastys I think they are roasted potatoes cut in half, hollowed out, and filled with what you said. I hope they are little tomatoes and not berries. And I also hope it is properly dressed or spiced otherwise it would be bland as fuck and not worth even looking at.
MEAT for the MEAT GOD!
tried this deck out on ranked and lost only to lots of hunters and a couple close games with rogue which was dissapointing but this really helped against cancer
wow that was beautiful when u gave the the thumps up and he said "wellplayed"
Yep ...
GG kirpp
I was really disappointed that the paladin game was a tough game to win because I was literally facepalming at the plays made by the paladin ... He was playing exactly like a dude who just played his first few games of ranked except with a lot of money spent to get better cards ... Zero value in nearly all of the plays he made and hard-countered on the only arguably valuable/quality plays he made. Just my opinion.
Seeing Aldor used on the Healbot and Truesilver used on face hurts so much.
kripp played bad aswell especially after the 7bomb drop ;D
Well he was rank 16 so what did you expect?
probably because he was eating and not really focused.
ilikesmalldicks He was sitting on the tree and big game, what was the matter there?
Did krip ever get any higher education? If so what was it and what field? I'd be interested to see what this guy is going to do once this blows over. He can't do it forever. Sure he can make good money and save a few bucks, but he will have to do something. I'm just curious as to what that something is.
I wonder where your pathetic life will bring you too
I been an IT consultant for over 10 years. My industry isn't going away anytime soon. :)
He can't do this forever?
For what reason? This is part of the entertainment industry, bub.
There is no time limit.
he will find another game .... keep this kind of useless comment away ... believe me it is very useless
from what I understand he was going to university (mostly because of parental pressure) and decided to drop out after some hesitation, he then started working as a computer technician to support his WoW habit, and then he took off with Diablo and managed to convert it to a full time job
after the pornhub incident, one of his female viewers realised he was actually human after all, and started stalking him in DMs with revealing photographs of her tight greek goddess body - that is also how the succubus came about
I've been playing this deck non-stop the past few days. Kripp got this deck based off the deck called "Natural Remedies" if you search it up on hearthpwn.
I love decks like this, nice one
Blizzard hates innovative Decks, they hate combos and deep Mechanics. They like Money and his 11-15 years old customer - thats why this game will never be competitive.
Ever thinked about what "win streak" function and online matchmaking means?
Its Math... and the Answer is: Its isnt competitive.
And this "Mill" Druid Deck isnt innvative at all, sorry but play MTG.. you will know then what it means to play some "deep" Decks or at least you will knw wwhat the word "mechanic" means.
Jauzas savoheJ If you're talking Standard or really any 60 card format, MtG is just as full of cancerous netdeckers who only know how to play one deck as HS. Innovators like Frank Lepore, Conley Woods, and Ali Aintrazi are scoffed at. At this point Wizards is just printing money and the people are eating it up.
The only reason I still play is all my friends are into EDH, which is actually a really well balanced and fun format if you don't spend more than a couple hundred on a deck.
Jauzas savoheJ
>MTG
>deep
wow
BBukeeB mtg used to be very deep before they changed it more and more to appeal to a larger target group of young people. and even now, after making the game childish and more straight forward, it is 10 times more competitive and complex than hearthstone. hearthstone is basically the worst case scenario for magic in terms of complexity, but the limited amount of cards allow awesome online play and a more arcade type of action. because of that hearthstone is actually more fun to play (for me) right now, and what they achieved with such a short time and limited cards is quite impressive. still, mtg used to be the far superior game in its prime, and while i haven't played it in years, but i'd very surprised if it has gotten down to the complexity of hs.
BBukeeB staxstix *****
Guys you really saying Hearthstone is a "deep" Cardgame? Honestly - play some Modern, Legacy, Vintage, Highlander or whatevz and you will feel "quite" a difference. Even Standard Format and these crappy Magic online Games have more "Deepness
as you will ever see it in Hearthstone. Thats it. There are no "deep" Decks in Hearthstone and the only Deck which was comming close to (yea i type it again) "Deep" was the miracle Rouge because this Deck didnt used too much of RNG and different Mechanics.
Hearthstone is good for these braindead evenings where you just want to play something without using your Head but getting Success aswell. Just smashing Cards on the Board without thinking about it too much. And if you did a Mistake? Game dont Care... RNG will do like 80% of the Game - Its Math. There are several sites wich will show you a "deep" feeling for RNG and RNG in Hearthstone.
I`ve hitted legendary in three, barely, four times and i can tell you what "getting"legendary is about. Its about time consume and thats it (at a specific point.. would at rank 5+)
Ever thinked about what implementing a "Win Streak" function mean? Its Math again.
im out, boys.
You see, this is the kind of deck I absolutely CANNOT STAND: This falls into the category of "I am not going to really play the game with you."
Literally all this deck does is just waits you out, that's it. I actually don't get to play the game with an opponent, and it's so silly. This is the sort of reason people disliked miracle rogue and freeze mage. Miracle rogue would spend half the game filtering through their deck and win the game, freeze mage would have nothing but answers (you also can't kill them cuz ice block) and then you just get Alex'd and win.
If any of you have played magic the gathering in the modern format, you probably understand what I am saying if you know what the storm deck is.
I get it, control warrior can be slightly annoying, but at least they play the freaking game, and they give you something to react to.
Honestly, this deck works against a lot of people because they don't really expect it, but it does in fact work. Nevertheless, I hate this because it feels like I am just throwing out cards against somebody who isn't even willing to play the game against me.
This does not mean the decks aren't beatable, just frustrating to play against.
Welcome to mono-green friend, enjoy your stay
Pseudo Arch More like B/U control.
That shit is just tedious.
It's not that hard to counter. If it gets into the meta really well, people will run more counters to it.
Krumpdaddy
I'm still new to magic, my bad :P
Pseudo Arch Aha i wasn't berating you man I barely know anything about it myself xD B/U control is like
*Play card*
*gets bounced back to hand*
*plays card*
*gets bounced back to hand*
*plays the same bloody card*
*gets Cancel'd*
I've played some games with this deck and I think Force of nature instead of ooze is quite good. It can be used as 6 dmg removal or in combo with poison seeds. Also it helps against jiraxxus in the handlock matchup.
I actually developed a deck just like this, but it's still under construction. Its a paladin though. Been trying to make it viable for a long time, but even though GVG helped, it still lacks a few cards to really make it top tier.
It uses paladin because of the efficient board clears (equality pyro consecrate) and follow the rules/humilty to render cards useless in terms of health - along with stuff like MCT, deathlord, sticky taunts like sludge belcher, lots of healing, etc.
Exact same idea, and its weird to finally see the meta / famous HS players find it out as well
is it gay to fantasy about being a girl and dating people like kripp, trump, jae dong, big gamers?
Jiyong Han quite gay, but thats quite ok.quite
Its normal
Jiyong Han Depends what you imagine doing with them.
playing games together in very romantic manner
Jiyong Han Take it from a bisexual, you might be a little gay (no offence)
My rogue build is very unique too.
wow... now I think about it, your build is pretty cool too, and the gameplay was amazing!
I've been playing this deck and I really like it. I've swapped in some giants since either the opponent or I usually have alot of cards, so it packs some punch if needed. Mountain giant for my hand and clockwork for theirs. Perhaps the best thing about this deck, aside from the fact it wins alot, is that there is really no bad draw for your opening hand. Unless you get all your healing cards the opening hand will be useful.
Wow I played this deck earlier today and I was super confused as to what it was going for. I crushed it with my demons-only deck but it was a really cool game.
i really missed the days where Kripp sat around eating all stream
I put explosive sheep into this deck because when poison seed is played it activates deathrattles, so its like a cheaper starfall
That tyrion discard... make me cry everytime lol
As response to the comments below about miracle. Miracle rogue isn't dead. It just has another form. It doesn't need GGZ auctioneer to be viable anymore. I often win with miracle without having drawn auctioneer. Besides you can always have 2 prep + 2sprint combo for 4 mana = 8 cards which is often more draw then when an auctioneer gets played.
I took out the ooze and added another tree of life. To me it feels a little more safe with how expensive tree of life is to use. I have been doing really well with it like that. The only time I've missed the ooze was with an oil rogue, but even then I outlasted them without issue. It feels like this deck has to most issues against other mill rogues since gang up is a lot stronger than naturalize and some weapon face warriors can do more than expected quicker than expected.
favorite kripp video of all time!
I have just tried this deck, and it's really, really, really fun. Thank you @kripparrian, and kuddos to the author. It is original, innovative, and fun to play, I love it :-)
I've just *finished off a priest using a tree of life*, it was fan-tas-tic. Thank you, young priestess :-)
Can you teach me how to use it? I just made it but I'm really bad with it
28:04 Kripp spilling food
love to wath this deck in action, nice one!
such a fun deck props my man
lol, that eating pokerface. And yeah, milled Tirion, that was super cute.
just to knit-pick a little, but naturalize and coldlight oracle will always do an odd amount of damage if they overdraw either you or your opponent.
I had the same idea for this deck the day naxx came out... beat you to it by like 3-4 months. But I put more value into mana efficent cards like udnertaker chow and dancing swords to be strong in the early game as well last late
That Tyrion burn though
Thank you for deck! What do you think about explosive sheep + poison seeds combo?
Healadin was a thing long time ago. This might have a bit more healing tho and Lay on Hands has that 3 card draw.
Your right Kripp! This deck is freaking awsome to play. High win rate and really fun. Thank you ChaosFollowing for making this.
25:25 Kripp eating like a pig
What do you think about running a Tinkmaster overspark and explosive sheep in this deck?
Really nice deck and games:D
I don't get it how the deck is working but it looks so insane to take damage and clear everything^^
yeah... idk if I'm convinced by this... like I was just playing against almost this exact class as a kinda weird mech/handlock warlock (I don't have enough cards to make a full handlock), and I didn't even really know what this deck was at first, so thinking that it was just mill I didn't tap at all, and once I saw the first poison seeds/starfall, I was able to force the second one out pretty easily with only two minions on board, after which both of us went into fatigue and I was actually able to outlast the druid with the antique and 2 other minions I had in hand...
This is what i played since Hearthstone came out, deffinetley better than it was on release. On release you slotted alot of defenders instead of the life gain. Im glad to see that i wasn't the only one who decide to play a mil deck.
This deck type reminds me of the "Healed to death" gimmick deck by TotalBiscuit.
take 1 coldlight out or 1 poison seeds out, and add a jeeves. jeeves is instant win in fatigue game.
so that's why I've seen this deck a few times, and it's pretty easy to win against. if you can maintain board control, all the healing just postpones the inevitable for a few turns.
Maybe it's because I've been running a divine shield heavy deck and this really doesn't have enough (generally) to stop the board control.
i love that Tree of Life animation
Such an amazingly fun deck.
I want to see more of this deck.
Hey, just wandering what would be a suitable alternative to big game hunter? If any of course. The rest of my deck remains identical however.
Cold Light Oracle and Youthful Brewmaster have been used for a while as a combo at the end. I've lost against several different classes using the 'last until they run out of cards then hit you for crazy fatigue damage' technique before GvG even came out. The first couple times I kept thinking wtf is this guy doing? Then realized nothing I did would help against it. Have also ran into multiple other classes using this idea and its crazy. When I do 80+ total damage to a warrior who's still alive, its usually time to just concede.
Any suggestions on what to replace Tree of life with in this deck since I don't have it?
I was thinking about Doomsayer.
Was up all night playing this deck and I've got to say it's a ton of fun. The 20 min games is a slight drawback but it's worth it for the satisfaction of watching your opponent have no cards left and concede >:)
thats why i wanna see HS add more card slots.. up to 40 maybe
i have same deck but i wanna add king mukla to fill oppenents hand and discard more cards? what do you think about that. which can be removed instead of mukla?
3 January 2015 - 'Most Innovative deck of the year' Kripp is Illuminati, he can fucking see the future
hey kripp, i know this is old, can you build and share an updated version of this deck? I wonder if its possible nowaday with all the pirates :D