THE SKULLCRACKER META - Buzzsaw Tanks Are Crazy Good - Total War Warhammer 3
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- čas přidán 11. 06. 2023
- The Skullcracker Buzzsaw Tank received some MASSIVE buffs in the newest Total War Warhammer 3 Immortal Empires update, so let's try out a bunch of units that were buffed and explain why a new meta has developed for the Chaos Dwarfs in this Showdown at the Green Comet vs. Cathay and Miao Ying!
New Chaos Dwarfs unit buffs
The Skullcracker Meta - Chaos Dwarfs vs. Cathay - Total War Warhammer 3 - Hry
0:38 I love how they just see their artillery piece blow up, just call it a day, and walk on home
"Understandable, have a nice day."
😂😂 i instantly stopped and checked if someone noticed it in the comments! I lolled
Finally! I haven't had time to start up a new CD campaign and was wondering how they perform now. Thx Indy!
they're extremely good now! maybe overperforming against armored single entities, they can beat some dedicated dueling monsters which I'm not entirely sure is intended. But yeah they straight up dominate infantry if heavy mass/AP doesn't come in to support. Which feels correct. lots of fun
yeah my main problem with them is how well they do vs antilarge/AP cav, which in theory should be a good counter to skullcrackers
I like your suggestion. I think the base iron demon should have pretty bad sustained melee stats but a lot of mass and a big old charge bonus. Logically, what the heck is a train going to do to you just sitting there. But we all know once said train get's rolling, you do not want to be in front of it, even if you're big. The skullcracker on the other hand has these handy spinning and stabbing blades perfect for mulching things smaller than them. Big bonus vs infantry so it can still wreak havoc among densely packed troops. And then the same big mass and charge bonus so once it gets moving again it can be a force to be reckoned with against large but will absolutely shred infantry like a lawnmower cuts grass.
I've never watch the deathshrieker rocket "erect" it's cannon into position before lol. I used to think the pinnacle of phallic references in the game was the hellcannons but now I just think the Chorfs have literally weaponized big dick energy.
Bhahaha yup, BDE fully weaponized 😅
Their new motto: "Plow & Penetrate." 😂
what a beautiful showcase of some stylish units!
I’ve been loving kdaii as well recently, really fun to use without feeling oppressive
17:30 RIP peasants. The pain train arrives.
So cool to see the Deathshriek used with the terrain like that!
Awesome back and forth battle. One of the cool things about cap mod is how you can creatively use terrain without any artificial rules telling you what you can and can’t do.
Really good iron hail gunner play from the cathay player. In pretty much every instance he had them positioned in a way where if one got attacked other one was able to fire the assaillant.
Also I don't think the plague of rust does that much in the SEM duels there. Skullcracker has 3/4 AP damage distribution to begin with and I think it's a similar case for the lord with a bale taurus mount. Winning through dueling Miao Ying is bit of a fool's errand since she can cast regrowth on herself.
yeah but she's diving my artillery and is the biggest threat on the field. gotta use my winds of magic somehow, and even a 10-15% increase in damage could be the difference. both Bale Taurus and Skullcracker have base damage components, they aren't full AP. without infantry left its easy to dodge Searing Doom, so casting Plague of Rusts when she comes in to fight seems a fine use of WoM
Super cool game, great usage of the rockets
i think with the giant pickaxes and buzz saw its not surprising the skullcracker effective against single entity units lol
0:38 "Forget it, I don't even need this job."
put guardmode then attack move, shift move to safe position;
they should kill and when enemy flee guardmode stops their movement and shift move will move you to next position; the only time this doesn't work is if they are engaged by another unit when the target flee's, as the attack-response will force the unit to enter combat same as if it was charged in motion; and that will as always cancel the shift orders made (sadly, not sure if there is any way to prevent this and make the "disengage immunity" kick in when enemies flee, it would make the unit ignore all attacking them and try to move for 10-24 seconds as if you try to force path through" ^^
Sounds like you're talking about something interesting, but I can't tell.
also as long as the order of the 'orders' are not auto cancelled, as if charged when on move order, it will do this correctly;
so if you take your grail knight and charge a skaven slave, then shift click it to the next slave together with it while on guard mode then shift click move over to another point and shift attack move into a new unit etc.
-- it will then charge slave 1 and when it flee it will attack slave 2 and when it flee, if order does not get cancelled in the various normal ways such as is attacked etc; it will then move command to the point and then do the attack command (if you shift attack more than 2 units beside each other without move command it generally cancels your order at the third unit because it will likely have trickered the auto-response effect; but 1-2 units is fine from quick testing;
honestly i never thought or used this in more than thousinds of playhours of tww; only thought of it bc of what you said this vid hehe :D
tyty
@@fiveforbiting the kdai fireborn, he means, so that glass canon units like them dont go caput.
The only thing that I dislike about the Skullcracker is how it slides around like a plastic toy whenever it tries to turn around on the spot (as seen at 17:17). It just looks off, even if it's still performing well.
Apparently, part of the Skullcrackers buffs were bugs. They can't be attacked from behind, models that do not have a far enough melee range can't get close enough to the area behind them to attack their hitbox.
Based artillery duel
Goddam its a literal battle blender
I think a train with spinning blades on the front would much cav to
sure, and it does. but you can say stuff like that about lots of different units. going by visual design, the Necrosphinx and Hierotitan should be literally unassailable, basically unkillable, killing hundreds of dudes a swing. But that's not a realistic proposal for how they should perform in combat. The current design of the Skullcracker is an anti-infantry specialist, not a monster hunter
@@milkandcookiesTW I wish Monster and Cav were different categories.
Issue is it's actually much stronger against cavalry than infantry. The Iron Daemon has a similar issue where against large targets the units seem to attack more often than they should you can get 1200 damage from the Skullcracker into cavalry on the charge for instance.
I think steam tank should be more like Iron Deamon (Skull Cracker lite with a mounted canon)
0:47 love her look, not a fan of the look of everything else on her roster; but damn she is cool. hmm could mod her into the some other faction :P
There is a mod that allows you to recruit all the female legendary lords in the game regardless of what faction you are playing as. Not quite what you are looking for but if you use the execute lords mod and config it to get rid of all the others but Miao Ying it'll be a close enough affect. Play as Imrik maybe and bring her in to finally pair them up or something lol. There are also some decent reskin mods for Cathays units available that you might like the look of.
If you get your sponsorship, I guess you'll have to become ButterandtoastTW
Man imagine if the old world had IP patents, the dawi who forged Ghal Maraz would be *pissed*.
Huh. is that 400 Weapon Strenght on Skullcracker a multiplayer only thing? Played campaign yesterday and mine only had 200 :/
you're likely playing on a smaller unit setting. ultra is the new default anything like large or below will lower stats correspondingly
@@milkandcookiesTW Oh, that didn't even occur to me. You are absolutely right! Sorry for the confusion.
During my c d campaign I was just disappointed by skull crackers
I hopw tbey are worthwhile in my 2nd CD run
they're really good now, think you will enjoy them
Searing Doom looked so much nicer before they changed the color. it no longer looks like it is burning
It's supposed to be molten metal, not burning fire.
Nice battle. Now if only hellcannon were just as good and not missing 80% of the time.
Even with nerfed centaurs they still perform pretty well. Buffed k'daai is a big bonus for me because they look too good and on launch they were so garbage. And now seeing the skullcracker mow things down is just delicious all the while raining bombardments.
Time to be indecisive in campaign and try to figure out army compositions
love the changes to chorfs; i much rather see these compositions; doom train, long rockets, fireborn is so much cooler than bulls so ty, etcetc. i like that changes.
not the biggest fan of the rockets, they are silly
(but i am happy with the direction of not being able to easily dodge its hit, thats nice; but single target sniping is way too strong, always was or else its impossible;
ranged unit vanilla got too little area spread on missiles coursing it^^ as well as low ammo count, dislike its a game of numbers with ranged units, feel if you can protect them they should keep doing their job; maybe worse like fetigue effect but should at least have double current ammo, which still runs dry in a good long fight.)
The skillscracker meta
Legend watching his least favorite units become doomstacks: 😐
I'm not a fan of capture point battles. It makes it where the units matter less than battlefield control.
the point had little to zero impact on the outcome of this battle. would have played out very similarly with or without it
One might argue that if you control the points, you are controlling the field.
@@tincano-beans2114 correct and thus if you have artillery and someone controls the center point you now have to attack where as in a real battle and every other total war the other person has to attack.
@@-V-_-V- the whole point of the capture point is to stop people corner camping with artillery lol
I wish steam tank get some love. Perhaps the single weakest tier 5 unit, everone bullies it.
Kerrygold is OP. Pease don't nerf.
Idk why but this makes me mad for seeker chariots. The meat-mowers and soul-glitter shitters need this level of “no shits given” when infantry is in the way. I’m not saying the Heddonites need any real buffs but the chariots, of the dopest units aesthetically, are underwhelming at best
Tbh I’m very disappointed with the troop quality of base chaos dwarf warriors. Vs their cousins their base troop is so lack luster
Yes pls. More Domination pls
I really hope CA won't nerf the Skullcracker too much. I get that it definitely shouldn't beat duelist SEMs in combat and that part needs to be adjusted, but I think that it being able to beat non Anti-Large cav and Monstrous Infantry is fine. It is a giant moving mechanical blender, one of the coolest units in the setting (imo) and was so underwhelming at launch... Single Entity Chariots are so rarely good in this game. Having one that isn't just a worse version of a SEM would be nice. Again, some nerfs are fine, but please CA, be gentle...
apparently its double/triple attacking against single entities, in a similar manner to Hellebron and Snotling Pump wagons (which are bugged atm). so if true it might be logical to fix that first, then when we can see where the unit is at. overall I like where its at with its performance vs infantry, I think being a linebreaker should be its main role
You don't have the Slaanesh Infected Meow mod? I thought all men of taste and culture were using it. Disappointed in you Milk&Cookies, I held you in high esteem.
So tired of Chorfs.
It's Chorfin' Time!
Oh boy, so now that mp players have ruined Chaos Dwarf artillery and Bull Centaurs they can ruin Skullcrackers next update too!
an intelligent, well thought out rebuttal. thanks for contributing. If the "nerfs always bad, buffs always good" crowd were in charge of this game every unit would have 3000 melee attack and the campaign would play and win itself. The "MP players" that are "ruining your fun" are the reason K'daai, Deathrockets, Skullcrackers, and Bretonnia got buffs in the first place. It just doesn't fit your MP boogiemen narrative and victim complex so you conveniently ignore it
Simple fact of the matter is, just because CA released a unit, doesn't mean its in a good or logical spot. Sometimes those units are bad and need help, sometimes (frequently) they have traits that were unintended and make them perform in weird or overpowered/underpowered ways. Skullcracker is clearly designed to counter infantry, and it should be great in that role, which it is now. It should probably NOT also be outdueling dedicated dueling monsters at its current price point. If you have an actual argument why a relatively cheap siege engine should be great in both roles and performing better in duels than monsters who literally specialize in dueling, feel free to explain. I'd love to hear it. But the current design for the unit is an infantry mulching specialist, not a monster hunter. So CA could increase its bonus vs. infantry to preserve its killing power vs foot troops, while lowering its MA a bit to compensate. this would not "ruin the unit".
I only play singleplayer, and the chaos dwarves were so poorly balanced that units like the bull centaurs were too strong to have fun with after a few battles. Found myself enjoying labourer armies more. Nerfs were good
yeah the thing people frequently misunderstand about nerfs, is that if they never happened, then units like Bull Centaurs could completely overshadow every unit on their own roster, and their counterparts on other rosters as well. People wouldn't play Chaos Dwarfs with a mix of guns and cannons and elite infantry and slaves. They'd play them like Bretonnia. Pretty soon you've got a mess where unit roles and specializations dont matter, where the only rule is power creep. Buff one unit, now we have to buff every unit, can't ever nerf stuff cuz people might get upset. This is not how to create or balance a STRATEGY game. And I mean, should be an obvious point, but just because a unit gets nerfed or normalized does not mean its "ruined". Bull Centaurs are still a good monstrous cav unit, I just misplayed them in this particular battle
@@milkandcookiesTW MP Players are why those units and Bretonnia got buffs? hmm. Despite being the minority compared to campaign? interesting. I would have figured it was the numerous Campaign playerbase who've been reporting the various issues who got those changes put in. But then again given what they did to Grail Knights in the last patch.... kinda feels like multiplayer nonsense got in the mix. Those grail Knights behave like that skull cracker and care naught for anything in front of them. But i guess if we need unstoppable Cavalry who can easily charge through their direct counter.... it would be the MP guys.
Now, stick to posting videos and leave off trying to scold people in the comments. You aren't changing anything, or winning any victories by doing so.
Just cause you have a little sway with CA doesn't put you above the rest of us, so don't let it go to your head.
Or don't, but it'll certainly make this job of yours less fun if you wanna take on everyone who dare voice an opinion you don't agree with.... not to mention being a waste of time.