Dragonflight is ALREADY Winning Where Shadowlands Failed - (A Rant on Storytelling)

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  • What is Dragonflight doing RIGHT that Shadowlands did WRONG? World of Warcraft hasn't been in the best of states, as of late. However, with the recent success of Wrath of the Lich King Classic, as well as people becoming more and more hyped for Dragonflight, the question lingers of what exactly Dragonflight is doing right compared to the previous expansion? Although there are several answers to this pondering, Nixxiom has decided today to focus on the backbone of the fantasy game - its story. So far, people have responded well to the story of Dragonflight and in this video Nixxiom hopes to answer the question as to why.
    Dragonflight is World of Warcraft's ninth expansion, featuring the release of Dracthyr, a new playable race, as well as the Evoker, a new Dracthyr-only class that uses the powers of all the Dragon Aspects. Dragonriding, a new form of transportation, will allow players to travel across the Dragon Isles at break-neck speeds, a profession and talent revamp is sure to interest many, and there will be 5 new zones to explore! Will Dragonflight save World of Warcraft? We will have to wait to find out.
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  • @NixxiomOnYouTube
    @NixxiomOnYouTube  Před rokem +80

    What are you all playing in Dragonflight?
    ALSO! Tomorrow - for those of you who love the Crendor / Nixxiom content - there's a new video coming out especially for you.

    • @dumbboyalex4396
      @dumbboyalex4396 Před rokem +7

      like 3 different evokers and probably warrior and death knight.
      no matter what they do to the game, they can't stop me from using a big sword in big plate.

    • @Pallywagz
      @Pallywagz Před rokem +3

      Resto Shaman and Survival Hunter!

    • @localareakobold9108
      @localareakobold9108 Před rokem +4

      actually, im still considering to buy it.
      as a Patch 7.1 starter, I felt disappointment for Shadowlands, Im a lore whore so I read every item possible with some story to tell.
      it was sad how less 'novel items' i could find in SL.
      im 19 and im from Europe region if you want to know

    • @skyclaw36
      @skyclaw36 Před rokem +9

      WOTLK classic

    • @D3NM0NT3UR
      @D3NM0NT3UR Před rokem +2

      Retail, Start a poll

  • @Falzyker
    @Falzyker Před rokem +505

    Doesn't get less complicated than Legion.
    "Demons are invading!"
    "Well then we don't want that, let's kill 'em!"
    And that's it.

    • @villageidiot9228
      @villageidiot9228 Před rokem +17

      Truuuue, WoW just isn't equipped to do the kind of story telling we compare with newer MMOs but it was to its advantage. Legion was rly good for that reason and Dragonflight should be the same.
      Hope it's not a 'bridge expansion' for the one after it like Wod and BfA were

    • @MegaChickenfish
      @MegaChickenfish Před rokem +9

      Simple premise, fun details. There was tons of lore to read about all the different artifact weapons and all the different stories for the professions and order halls that were a ton of fun. But your overarching *goal* was clear and unambiguous. Gain power, kill demons. Gain power from those demons to kill more demons.
      And the demons themselves were gaining power using the souls of the dead and converting those they defeat into more demons and-waaaait a minute, *Legion was just DOOM!*
      Minus the chainsaw. Clearly the only flaw in Legion.

    • @mandykarevicius9746
      @mandykarevicius9746 Před rokem +4

      Illidan teaching Velen to rely more on himself than tempting fate. Based Illidan.

    • @dannyboy-nm2kp
      @dannyboy-nm2kp Před rokem +2

      @@mandykarevicius9746 Yea real simple, we riding horses and griffins, ENTER SPACESHIPS AND LASERS!... legion was a convoluted mess for lore.

    • @Mythhammer
      @Mythhammer Před rokem +2

      Legion are bad guys, kill bad guys! :)

  • @bernardthequagsire2373
    @bernardthequagsire2373 Před rokem +439

    I love how df videos start with something like "okay so df doesn't look like hot garbage" really telling how much faith we have in the new expansions these days

    • @Trajikbpm
      @Trajikbpm Před rokem +42

      and that itself is too much faith..

    • @leequesada439
      @leequesada439 Před rokem +15

      @@Trajikbpm Then stop playing so we can stop hearing you cry. Tell the other crybabies too.

    • @leequesada439
      @leequesada439 Před rokem +9

      @@Trajikbpm it's a game if you don't like it you don't have to play.

    • @melissas4874
      @melissas4874 Před rokem +39

      @Lee Quesada Ion still isn't inviting you to Blizz HQ so calm down. 😅

    • @ne0nmancer
      @ne0nmancer Před rokem +42

      @@leequesada439 If everyone who had a problem with WoW's shitty new expansions simply quit, there'd be no servers left. Imagine getting mad at people wanting to see the game they play improve.

  • @Relhio
    @Relhio Před rokem +60

    The whole lore of the past few expansions was like the D'jin wishes.
    - I want a dragon!
    - No you can't have that.
    - Ok, I want good WoW lore!
    - Right, what color do you want that dragon?

  • @Iratyer
    @Iratyer Před rokem +110

    4:45 Ysera and alexstrasza are actually mentioned by Tyrande on Warcraft 3, and Malfurion also mentions Deathwing when he encounters black dragons.

    • @Asdf-wm4ow
      @Asdf-wm4ow Před rokem +1

      This is a great observation

    • @Dragarien
      @Dragarien Před rokem

      Do I get a massage?

    • @najack7176
      @najack7176 Před rokem +4

      Yeah,never noticed it back in 2003,but now that ive played ROC and TFT again and I felt mindblown by how much lore has been already established long before WoW.

    • @gabrielvaliquette6027
      @gabrielvaliquette6027 Před rokem +9

      AND we actually fight Deathwing in WC2

    • @evanboll4651
      @evanboll4651 Před rokem +6

      Deathwing actually shows up in WarCraft 2.

  • @kaiseravm
    @kaiseravm Před rokem +12

    It was really baffling that in shadowlands they really wanted to sell the story that the major villain of this first arc of the story according to them was the jailer all along, with no build up or revelation of why he did what he did 🤔

    • @frtzkng
      @frtzkng Před rokem +1

      They tried to pull an Arthas or Burning Legion type thing, but ignored that these two antagonists had at least a decade of setup, not mere hours

  • @authari8774
    @authari8774 Před rokem +25

    Haven’t heard this before… Never trust the hype before a new expansion.

  • @DeadlySinner97
    @DeadlySinner97 Před rokem +51

    The adventure aspect was the one thing that was actually good about the Beginning of BFA, The Alliance got to Explore Kul Tiras, the homeland of Jaina, and explore how Jaina's choices regarding Kalimdor, Theramore,the Horde, and most importantly her Family. The Horde on the otherhand got Zandalar and the vast Troll Empire that has influenced events in the world for years, and we finally get to see the seat of that empire, not to mention the amount of Troll Lore that was explored, specifically the Loa, and even more specifically Bwonsamdi, the Patron Loa of the Darkspear tribe Who you Literally play as if you picked troll, There wqas so much potential with both of these storylines, but by the Third or Fourth Main Updates, we already have picked up and moved on.

    • @degiguess
      @degiguess Před rokem

      BfA questing was truly goated tbh. There's a reason it has been turned into the standard questing experience that new players are ushered into.

    • @LichlordKazam
      @LichlordKazam Před rokem

      Can relate that to warlords of dreanor. We explored the ancient lore of the orcs and draenei, and met alot of characters we've only heard of in stories. Despite the lack of content, the questing experience in WoD was S-tier.

  • @jeanaponte5442
    @jeanaponte5442 Před rokem +120

    I love how all the expansion is the same: Hype>Delusion>Dissapointment>Rage>Repeat.

    • @cococock2418
      @cococock2418 Před rokem +17

      Literally every single expansion post legion. These guys are so delusional it's insane. Either play classic where you know what you're getting and what to expect, or quit the game if that isn't what you want. there is no recovery regarding retail.

    • @squaeman_2644
      @squaeman_2644 Před rokem +3

      @@cococock2418 I stopped after Blizzards time locks. You eventually realize you're paying them... To not play their game...

    • @roohni2226
      @roohni2226 Před rokem +1

      i only want to try this one cuz odyn's fury is back. I'll be waiting a few weeks before buying tho

    • @dan3458
      @dan3458 Před rokem

      @@cococock2418 hurrrrrrr it isn't what I wanted (without it even being out yet.....literally making shit up) so everyone should just quit. Go go gadget logic.

    • @DainnGreywall
      @DainnGreywall Před rokem +4

      @@cococock2418 If you think people were looking forward to SL, you're delusional. People did not look forward to it at all, and everyone were entering into the expansion super wary, especially with the whole "Pull the ripcord" deal that was from the start of the SL expansion.

  • @Mucrush
    @Mucrush Před rokem +89

    That third point is seriously great. We're experiencing the uprise of something that we need to fight as a final boss. Meanwhile Shadowlands... everything was already set in motion before the expansion even began. We already knew from the beginning who'd we fight by the end. And they didn't even flesh out that character?!
    I guess you could say BFA did a lot of that "who's gonna be the end boss?!" thing, but BFA was all over the place because it wanted to do so many things at once (like multiple expansions in 1 expansion).

    • @thargs9184
      @thargs9184 Před rokem +7

      @n. noxti i'll be honest, in terms of modern mmos, if you want faction conflict as in who you belong to, 2 or 3 faction isnt enough to keep thing interesting. If they cant manage to make it interesting or have it be plausible, they might as well get rid of it. If anything, balancing issue for pvp wont be an issue for those who dont pvp anymore

    • @FroJSimpson
      @FroJSimpson Před rokem +8

      The fact that so many people used to speculate about when we’d be getting a Nazjatar expansion with Queen Azshara as the final villain, only to have them shoehorn it in as a single-zone, single raid tier experience is kind of emblematic of Blizzard’s constant squandering of its best ideas.

    • @thargs9184
      @thargs9184 Před rokem +1

      @n. noxti but in reality, it would be near impossible to remove the faction versus faction since its been integrated in the original source code(stop me if i'm talking out of my ass, in no way good at any of that shit XD). Removing those faction vs faction interaction, especialy from npc, would be easier to just make a new game without it XD. Its common for most game that had a 2 faction pvp system like RIFT. Despite the actual "enemy" status being gone, the npc would still try to merk your ass if you got near them as the opposite faction due to that being too deep in the code. At best, they can reduce the restriction for player.

    • @TLTeo
      @TLTeo Před rokem +1

      @@FroJSimpson Yep! We should have had a full expansion dedicated to Nazsjatar and Azshara, and another one for N'zoth, Nyalotha and the Black Empire. That would have felt so much better than whatever bfa was...although in hindsight, a lot of bfa was hurt just by needing to somehow build up to whatever SL was.

    • @ryansauer5964
      @ryansauer5964 Před rokem

      I think initially they wanted to give horde and alliance players something unique for their factions. Then tie it in with a story of conflict. How it ended up though... Is a conflicted story of too many brancing off things that for the most part don't really matter or make sense. Which then became worse when shadowlands dropped.

  • @JAndersonGhost0326
    @JAndersonGhost0326 Před rokem +71

    I logged in yesterday for the first time in 6 months just to get a feel for the new talent trees before committing to the expansion and was pleasantly surprised. It felt really good to level an alt today, so consider me hyped.

    • @peacepipe6695
      @peacepipe6695 Před rokem

      If the talent tress is what you miss then go back to classic

    • @blairmontaperto8958
      @blairmontaperto8958 Před rokem +8

      @@peacepipe6695 They were implying they like the new talent trees

    • @kevinc8955
      @kevinc8955 Před rokem +4

      @@peacepipe6695 Classic is hot garbage buddy. I played WotLK for 1 month and the world is already dead. Just a bunch of people standing around afk in Dalaran waiting to raid, nobody running alts, nobody in dungeon queues. Dead game.

    • @peacepipe6695
      @peacepipe6695 Před rokem +7

      @@kevinc8955 I already know classic is a flop. Just 30 year old dudes trying to be 12 again. And it’s hilarious

  • @converse2735
    @converse2735 Před rokem +19

    This sounds familiar…. ShadowLands had a “similar hype” but probably it as much. I won’t even keep my hopes up until I see a real improvement

    • @Dayz3O6
      @Dayz3O6 Před rokem +8

      yep the prepatch was fun and the initial entry into the maw was fun then all came crashing down into a slog fest. Blizz dont deserve any hype they need to earn it the hard way.

    • @converse2735
      @converse2735 Před rokem +1

      @@Dayz3O6 omg yes! I checked out immediately after a crap load of death in the maw! And it was TIME GATED ooof!😑

    • @jnesis555
      @jnesis555 Před rokem +1

      I’m there with you. Blizzard is really good at throwing as much marketing and visuals. But their business strategies are largely the same. Overwatch 2 is already an example of a partial compromise.

    • @cococock2418
      @cococock2418 Před rokem +5

      These are exactly the same videos that were made about every expansion post MoP. Every single one outside of Legion was dog shit (and even that one launched in a bad state). These guys are absolutely delusional. You cannot say you have "hope" for a game when all you've seen of it is the beta. In the beta, you are playing the honeymoon period of the game. then what happens when you hit max level? The "oh, this game actually sucks" feeling starts to creep in.
      Blizzard is great at marketing, which is why they continue to fool these people expansion after expansion into having false hope. It's exactly like Call of Duty. People make videos saying "this year will be different", and then reality hits them like a bat.

  • @Elban19
    @Elban19 Před rokem +24

    The honeymoon period is always fun. Then reality sets in.
    I played from OG vanilla to BFA, hiatus during WOD. Now that I'm on this side I can see it clearer: you all love to be the battered wife.

    • @dante93nero
      @dante93nero Před rokem +4

      you missed the point what Nixxiom is saying is related to the story aspect of these expansions. Storywise apart from shadowlands it was all good with potential. The problem with shadowlands is that the world needed to be built alot more (story wise). You can tell blizzard tried, the expansion is super original in content but idk

    • @danielfahimislam3166
      @danielfahimislam3166 Před rokem +5

      There's no honeymoon period here, he mentions in the end of the video how the expansion could just end up becoming trash like it more often than not does, but for the time being, things look good which is true.

    • @xRichhhx
      @xRichhhx Před rokem +2

      So playing a game for a few months and only then starting to complain due to inevitable burnout and complaing about it is equal to being in a abusive relationship?
      Speaking of reality setting in, I'd say that's the players fault for not having a reality check that a game might not hold your attention the entire year, not the game. These "muh stockholm syndrome" or "muh battered wife" parroted opinions are always such a reach.
      Maybe play less, nerds.

    • @pjrotsaert2832
      @pjrotsaert2832 Před rokem +1

      @@dante93nero Man. It's always this way. New expansion on the horizon, cue all content creators going "Oh X is so different, this will be much better! look they changed Y they're listening! This is so good for the future of the game!" Then the expansion comes out and it's just a slightly different kind of dogshit.
      It's been like this since literally WoD. It will NOT be different this time, if you think that you're completely delusional.

    • @dante93nero
      @dante93nero Před rokem

      @@pjrotsaert2832 Nah people in shadowlands new from the start that the expansion had flaws. and OG is speaking STRICTLY from a STORY perspective not gameplay.

  • @hyperjgaming5768
    @hyperjgaming5768 Před rokem +15

    I think the key to story telling in general, but fantasy especially, is this: SIMPLE CONCEPT allows for complex character and world writing.

  • @BaneGaiety4848
    @BaneGaiety4848 Před rokem +92

    I hope this time around is actually good. I remember everyone started liking Shadowlands at the start, specially comparing it to BFA and hating the expansion more and more as it progressed. May it not be the case this time around.

    • @grimdarhk
      @grimdarhk Před rokem +18

      Eh... I've always thought the idea of shadowlands was fucking stupid. Also more borrowed power which was terrible

    • @Drakkross
      @Drakkross Před rokem +36

      "This time it will be different!" How often are you people gonna fall for the same crap?

    • @kobwmoose
      @kobwmoose Před rokem +2

      True I enjoyed 9.0, it was the 1st time I did heroic raiding and Denathrius was probs the only good thing Shadowlands gave us.

    • @BlastHeart96
      @BlastHeart96 Před rokem +1

      Yeah, other than the ridiculous and convoluted premise (and really anything directly associated with Sylvanas/The Jailer), I really enjoyed the zone stories and covenant campaigns. I just got fed up with the overarching story of the expansion after that.

    • @Devin7Eleven
      @Devin7Eleven Před rokem +4

      I remember when Warcraft first came, it was badass and greatly inspired by Warmane and Warhammer. Now it seems like some Tumblr fan project.

  • @suronia1
    @suronia1 Před rokem +9

    I'm big on exploration too nixxiom. As a kid I took joy in walking around a place I haven't explored yet. Felt otherworldly even though it wasnt far from home. Let's hope they don't nerf the fun.

  • @Mattznick
    @Mattznick Před rokem +11

    Hope Dragonflight is good so all you guys can enjoy WOW again, i tried coming back as a casual when they gave me Shadowlands free with a boost and i just couldn't get into the game again for like the 3rd time. It's like there's so many little things that bother me about the game that i can't get over. Plus im a lore nerd and trying to understand and keep up without playing is rough

  • @tacothunder2298
    @tacothunder2298 Před rokem +7

    Since the Tuskar are neutral in Northrend they should be like pandas, you do a prologue and then choose which faction to join. I hope they become playable. A DK Tuskar would be a dream come true.

  • @MyCheeseNacho
    @MyCheeseNacho Před rokem +6

    I couldn't put my hope for dragonflight into words. You've done so perfectly. Shadowlands is the first expansion I quit within the first 3 months to never come back. I'm ready for a new adventure and just learn about whatever awaits us, with no big nipple man. Thank you Nixxiom!

  • @MichZilla90
    @MichZilla90 Před rokem +3

    Nixxiom me and you have the same favorite style of fantasy, some dudes go on a grand adventure through unknown lands meeting cool characters and creatures before reaching a treasure filled mountain guarded by the most badass dragon. The Hobbit

  • @Larathen
    @Larathen Před rokem +32

    What I feel good about dragonflight is the lore is heading back to somewhat home-y direction. Back on Azeroth and focusing on Azeroth. No cosmic world trekking, no afterlife hobnobbery.
    We going back to good ol' world adventures.
    There was one quote in Cataclysm in the Dragon Soul raid. Captain Swayze - "You ready to chase down the end of the world?" Chef's kiss.

    • @mezesadam1997
      @mezesadam1997 Před rokem

      But they were still able to screw the lore written in the Chronicles.

    • @Relhio
      @Relhio Před rokem +2

      And then boom! We find out that the actual threat was some nostalgic bs like void lords or the legion again.

    • @mezesadam1997
      @mezesadam1997 Před rokem

      @@Relhio Nah, it will be Murozond or Galakrond. They repeating the vibe of Cataclysm expansion, as they tried to repeat the vibe of Wrath during Shadowlands.

    • @youtubedeletedmynamewhybother
      @youtubedeletedmynamewhybother Před rokem

      Inb4 we end up in space again in T4 DF.

    • @Crispierbug
      @Crispierbug Před rokem

      @@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother space dragons

  • @dutch8296
    @dutch8296 Před rokem +4

    After warcraft reforge i will never trust blizzard again.

  • @newworld8546
    @newworld8546 Před rokem +7

    imagine being fooled by blizz for the 20th time

  • @loyael
    @loyael Před rokem +3

    I started playing wow with shadowland
    One positive thing I have to say is that it kept me up to date with all the lore.
    I've noticed so many people say they had the best memories from previous expansions.
    I truly hope to experience a bit of that with Dragonflight.

  • @sims2lovealot
    @sims2lovealot Před rokem +54

    I'm playing SL and I'm pretty hyped for DF. It looks like everything I've missed from previous expansions and I'm hopeful that they realise we just want a nice fantasy adventure again.

  • @Dbarnes0
    @Dbarnes0 Před rokem +7

    This exact same thing was said about Shadowlands and it took the streamers almost a year after release to realize how bad it was and then finally ADMIT it. I hope it will improve but yet to see anything that makes me think its worth my time

    • @gandalfdengra5580
      @gandalfdengra5580 Před rokem +1

      A lot of problems were pointed out before Shadowlands launched. Nothing really bad pointed out with DF yet from what I've heard.

    • @xRichhhx
      @xRichhhx Před rokem +5

      I honestly don't think SL was even that bad as people make it to be, it's just the [current xpac] = bad mentality again.
      SL's downfall was it's enormous content drought from launch till 9.1 and that patch being one of, if not THE worst patch we've ever had. And then of course most content being made mandatory and Covenants being too restrictive.
      Tldr; Launch was good but patch cadence was slow and they doubled down on restriction.

    • @DankMemes-xq2xm
      @DankMemes-xq2xm Před rokem

      @@xRichhhx Shadowlands downfall for me is the Covenants, Conduits, and Soulbinds. I literally do not have time to play Shadowlands because I don't want to invest into those systems. I also don't wanna deal with running Torghast to get my legendaries and unlock my tier set bonuses and stuff. I just hate it when Blizzard makes an expansion where you have to do a million things before you can set foot in a Mythic+. I miss the old days when it was hit max level, do heroic dungeons, do normal raids, do the heroic raid. DF looks like you will be able to do that again, hopefully.

    • @jongya
      @jongya Před rokem

      @@xRichhhx I think SL was absolutely horrible and usually I will be one of the optimists saying I don’t think “x current expansion” is that bad. What did it for me was the story bc that’s really the main thing that draws me to wow. I’m not much of a raider or mythic+ connoisseur but I really enjoy learning the lore of the zones and seeing how the story unfolds. Shadowlands just like killed a lot of mystery and excitement in wow for me. Like now we know what the afterlife is and that’s it’s basically just another Azeroth people go to fight and chill in and that just really killed a lot of the stakes and mystique to stuff like death magic. Then there’s the whole first ones that are like the gods of the gods and turns out the gods of the afterlife are robots and these first ones are just basically like the titans but BIGGER. It’s lame. Then there’s sylvanas who ik people rag on but I always really liked her and I’ve played undead since WotLK when I first picked up WoW as a wee middle schooler. I always thought she was so cool and it’s fine if they wanna make her a villain but like please at least give her a good reason. Like she goes to hell and meets a freaky chained up bald dude who tells her “we have to remake reality together, o and btw I’m the guy who created the lich king and the scourge which is the source of all your trauma and hatred” and she’s just like yea sure let’s do it. Then for some reason she second guesses when he says “all will serve” when he’s been churning out villainous one liners since the second we saw him. It’s wow like I really don’t need an exceptional story, it truly doesn’t take much to make me happy. Give me cool demons and undead and pretty zones to explore along with a few cool mysteries and I’ll be content. But the really badly butchered the lore with SL

    • @jongya
      @jongya Před rokem

      @@xRichhhx o also I have to mention how sad the whole sylvanas soul was split makes me. I thought her ruthlessness made sense already like she was murdered and then raised as a monster and had to watch from within her own body as she helps in the genocide of her people. Like that’s some next level trauma and her old motive where she views the undead as her new adopted people that she will do anything to protect I thought was some really cool characterizing. Then she just dumps the forsaken and turns out it wasn’t really even her the whole time is was like her “evil half,” like damn they readjust wrecked her character

  • @juselara02
    @juselara02 Před rokem +7

    Quite frankly, given the current state of the game and Blizzard, I really think WoW won't survive another horrible expansion. Dragonflight is perhaps the more crucial expansion since Cataclysm, when after Arthas everyone said: Now what? and they stuck the landing. But now is: Survive or take another (maybe definitive) blow. If this one fails, I think is the point of no return for WoW.

    • @Dmytro_Kuts
      @Dmytro_Kuts Před rokem +2

      it’s already point of no return

    • @mrbonanza2606
      @mrbonanza2606 Před rokem +1

      @@Dmytro_Kuts I'm with ya buddy, I just don't trust blizz to not fuck it up. Maybe if people are still saying its fun a month or two post launch i'l give it a shot but blizz has not changed their ways just look at OW2 and diablo

    • @markup6394
      @markup6394 Před rokem

      This is what they said after BfA XD

  • @darkphase7799
    @darkphase7799 Před rokem +5

    I think it's often a good thing to know the end boss of the expansion from week 1, have us get introduced to them very early and often building their story then have the dungeons and raids based on taking power away from that boss until we are at a point to be able to kill them. I.e., in a way wrath

    • @clementeacevedo6665
      @clementeacevedo6665 Před rokem +7

      Wrath is a great example of how to introduce the main villain from the beginning. But, MoP is another great example of not introducing the main villain from the beginning. Both can be good executed

    • @ASNS117Zero
      @ASNS117Zero Před rokem +1

      The problem is there really aren't any villains left, and haven't been since BFA. And *that* was scraping the bottom of the barrel something fierce. They really need to start making new characters that won't be used for a long time.

    • @clementeacevedo6665
      @clementeacevedo6665 Před rokem +4

      @@ASNS117Zero Garrosh wasn't under the category of villain until they developed him to be so.

    • @ASNS117Zero
      @ASNS117Zero Před rokem

      @@clementeacevedo6665 I... never mentioned Garrosh?

    • @clementeacevedo6665
      @clementeacevedo6665 Před rokem +1

      @@ASNS117Zero and?? I mentioned him to bring a point. You said "there really aren't any villains left". I mentioned Garrosh in MoP as an example of an already non-villain character who became one throught an expansion

  • @mattdzeph7985
    @mattdzeph7985 Před rokem +3

    Still a lot I hope they elaborate on. Like if the Dragon Isles are the dragons ancestral homelands then why wouldn’t places like Dragonblight, The Nexus, and The Caverns of Time be on the Isles? From the cinematic the Isles were always separate from Kalimdor, since they existed before The Sundering when it was just one continent. The whole Wrathion and Sabellian story looks like cut and dry stuff too, Wrathion trying to defend his actions the whole “ all of things I did….I did for the better of Azeroth”.

  • @KvapuJanjalia
    @KvapuJanjalia Před rokem +4

    Don't have high expectations and you will not be disappointed.

    • @Dmytro_Kuts
      @Dmytro_Kuts Před rokem +1

      Does it not mean skipping the game ?

  • @Saimeren
    @Saimeren Před rokem +1

    Is there anywhere that I can find a recap of the Shadowlands story? I left before Chains of Domination came out and have no idea what happened after that. I have a very brief overview of events, but I have no idea what happened to either Sylvanas or Anduin. Are they alive? Did we kill either of them? No clue.

  • @Reneator
    @Reneator Před rokem

    From the title i was expecting a hype-video, but this was very balanced and a senseful approach and analysis. Keep it up!

  • @torsten89
    @torsten89 Před rokem +3

    Pretty sure Nixiom would go full furry if the Tustkar became an allied race 😂😂

  • @xXbaker1025Xx
    @xXbaker1025Xx Před rokem +7

    In retrospect though, it is kind of funny that they made every single problem with the world was due to a single person

    • @JessiBear
      @JessiBear Před rokem +1

      I'm surprised they didn't make it an orange skinned demon named Frump 🙄

    • @dumbboyalex4396
      @dumbboyalex4396 Před rokem +1

      when I realized that I felt the biggest scoop of "thanks I hate it"

    • @Blackjax137
      @Blackjax137 Před rokem

      Everything except Vanilla, MoP and WoD.
      Two were Old Gods and WoD was Infinite Dragonflight by proxy.

  • @lesbazyra
    @lesbazyra Před rokem

    I love that picture at the beginning! Can you send a link with a full pic?

  • @BBTheSixth
    @BBTheSixth Před rokem +2

    Liked Legion for being simple, a come back story, and do like demon slaying.
    Demons come and invading, beat you down, get back up, beat them back, go where angels fear to tread, finish the fight. Simple and effective.

  • @updnews
    @updnews Před rokem +4

    After 1 year:
    WHY IS DRAGONFLIGHT SO BAD?
    After 1 more year:
    WHY "RISE OF ABYSS" IS A FUTURE OF WOW?
    classic of all wow bloggers)

  • @Dayz3O6
    @Dayz3O6 Před rokem +3

    Just wait until Blizz reveal that there is another shirtless bald guy pulling strings from behind, dont smoke that copium too soon Nixxiom.

  • @thefineroots
    @thefineroots Před rokem

    Love the way you present your content Nixxiom

  • @aljonserna5598
    @aljonserna5598 Před rokem +2

    the thing I like about warcraft's storytelling is that their characters and some events were inspired by some real historical events. Tho not sure if they'd apply some real world view on dragons being the more snake like ones more powerful--Chinese Lung, Norse Nidhogg and Jormungandr, Filipino Bakunawa etc.--than the lizard looking ones.

  • @Trajikbpm
    @Trajikbpm Před rokem +19

    My biggest fear is its just gonna feel like one big end zone and thats a wrap.

  • @loremastertaruzai2066
    @loremastertaruzai2066 Před rokem +6

    I totally agree with you at this Nixxiom. Great Video.
    Im really hyped for Dragonflight. An Expansion all abaut my favourite part of Warcraft Lore ever: The Dragonaspects and their flights.

  • @IVIaximus77
    @IVIaximus77 Před rokem

    Just like the Black Dragon Flight egg tender watching over an empty nest; We keep coming back to each new expansion because "we have hope."

  • @MiraSubieGirl
    @MiraSubieGirl Před rokem +1

    I dont usually like any YT videos, but Tuskar deserve a like. Stay warm Nixxiom.

  • @WatchMeLearnIt
    @WatchMeLearnIt Před rokem +12

    Just a word of caution: MOST people said Shadowlands was a fantastic expansion until after the first week or so.
    It's going to be a few weeks of playing the expansion before we really know if it's a W or not

    • @xProdigyxWolf
      @xProdigyxWolf Před rokem +2

      Who tf were u talking to? Everyone was saying how bad it was going to be months prior to launch. We all knew covenants were going to be a complete disaster, everyone knew the maw was awful

    • @eisengrindt3453
      @eisengrindt3453 Před rokem +3

      @@xProdigyxWolf You are doing the same mistake. Not everyone hated the Covenant System! I for myself and many other non min/max-ers I know, enjoyed the covenants and the different stories they brought with them. Made it a bit more realistic to not know everything about anything and life with the consequences of switching. I mean that's what people wanted in BfA for the whole Sylvanas/Saurfang thing and when they got that somewhat it in SL, they instantly hated it. Blizz did made a lot of mistakes with SL (putting in tones of idiotic redemptions to please hard core fans is one of them) but the Covenants wasn't one of them.

  • @BeaverToothe
    @BeaverToothe Před rokem +22

    I have to agree, and the talent trees right now are such a breath of fresh air. As you said there is not much new in the talent trees, not any new ability or crazy gimmick, but being able to direct your character the way you want is great. It seems like the tried to keep the new specializations around while still giving the classic talent trees. Best of both worlds is what I felt like they were aiming for. My friend said it, normally wow release a shit expansion followed by a great one. Lets hope this is the great one.

    • @realicepick285
      @realicepick285 Před rokem

      Good then bad then good, eh,
      I would rate them this way.
      A Tbc
      A wrath
      B cata, dragonsoul and lfr dam near killed it.
      A mists
      C wod garrisons and the feel of the world being alive are the only bad things but they were huge
      A legion
      C bfa too much going on at once. 2 bad raids
      D shadowlands better ideas but too much going on system wise, bad story, player catchup and new player experience were awful, refusal to listen to player feedback just killed it. Raids were good tho. Top tier, very memorable.

    • @Nemisis2290
      @Nemisis2290 Před rokem

      The talent trees actually do in fact, add a TON of new things including new abilities never before seen in the game as well as old favorites.

    • @Martin-ld6uo
      @Martin-ld6uo Před rokem

      The Cycle was broken at Shadowlands, together with BFA those were 2 shit expansions in a row

  • @aldocruz863
    @aldocruz863 Před rokem +1

    The original devs aren't working on DF, and after getting burnt out on the past few expansion preorders, I'm gonna sit this one out for a bit and see how this expansion turns out to be

  • @FrozenSun23
    @FrozenSun23 Před rokem +1

    The only thing I am going to miss from Shadowlands is going to be the little birbs asking: "How do you do-hoo?"

  • @tronam
    @tronam Před rokem +9

    Actually, after 9.2, Shadowlands has been a lot more enjoyable and I've been playing it quite a bit. I get that it hasn't been to everyone's taste, but Zereth Mortis in particular is one of the best, more interesting zones Blizzard has created in a while and if it's a glimpse into future zone design in Dragonflight then I'm feeling a bit more optimistic.

    • @ceasursmoke1391
      @ceasursmoke1391 Před rokem +1

      except you fully explore zerith mortis in 2 mins, and there is nothing to do but world quests kill rares and open chests. It could be way better

    • @animewarrior3
      @animewarrior3 Před rokem +1

      I preferred timeless isles to zerith mortis

  • @tylergregory7142
    @tylergregory7142 Před rokem +3

    I love Tuskarr, that's the main reason I'm playing WotLK lol. I would die if I could play ad one.

  • @DivineAegis02
    @DivineAegis02 Před rokem

    Retcon: Azeroth is actually a half orc half Draenei titan like Goronna. It was her intent to bring the orcs and Draenai over.

  • @LeiteLuke
    @LeiteLuke Před rokem +2

    Tuskar are from W3: Frozen Throne. Pandaren also.

  • @predragjo5977
    @predragjo5977 Před rokem +11

    This is all correct my friend. What also would be nice is if Blizzard can scale the Elite mob level with the player level across all zones and I mean really scale them to the point when you really need to put some effort to kill them. I just want to get into a random cave, kill some random small mobs and then really put some effort to kill the main one. Thats the fantasy. Old zones kinda feel dead and there is no point to enter any cave or anything because there is literally nothing interesting inside.

    • @Knsy
      @Knsy Před rokem +1

      Play classic lol

    • @DankMemes-xq2xm
      @DankMemes-xq2xm Před rokem

      I agree with this. Modern WoW really doesn't have any challenging enemies walking around in the open world. Quests that require multiple people to complete haven't existed since before Cata, unless you count the elite quests on Timeless Isle. This is probably why Timeless Isle is remembered so fondly, as half the mobs could literally one shot you.

    • @predragjo5977
      @predragjo5977 Před rokem

      @@DankMemes-xq2xm Exactly, timeleaa isle was awesome and you could get interesting loot there 😎

  • @thenewguyinred
    @thenewguyinred Před rokem +12

    I would love to see the look on Narc’s face when he finds out that Dragonflight is actually very good.

    • @Persona6Blue
      @Persona6Blue Před rokem +4

      *Breathes in copium* "No...no it can't be!"

    • @cococock2418
      @cococock2418 Před rokem +3

      @@Persona6Blue But it isn't good lmao. It's shit. You guys do this every expansion.

    • @thenewguyinred
      @thenewguyinred Před rokem

      @@cococock2418 Are you a fan of Narc?

  • @iDogtag
    @iDogtag Před rokem +2

    i guess we'll see how well this ages.

  • @TRS1997
    @TRS1997 Před rokem +2

    I love that Nixxiom's hair is 50-50. It hasn't made its mind if it's messy or straight.

  • @LoudlyScreaming
    @LoudlyScreaming Před rokem +30

    Give it time. Blizzard is great at advertising a shitty product extremely well, it'll turn into rotten fruit just like the last few expansions did and the cycle will continue as it always does. They're using nostalgia bait to try and bring people back in and some old players are falling for it hook, line, and sinker.

    • @AikanaroSauron
      @AikanaroSauron Před rokem +5

      Very much this. It's really astonishing how people can just step on the same rake, again and again and again, time after time for literally over a decade non stop, and they STILL want to give this soulless corporation money. Ineducable breed.

  • @haberak3310
    @haberak3310 Před rokem +4

    I only just recently got back into WoW and the story of Shadowlands doesn't seem too bad right now (mind you, I only just finished Maldraxxas). I like the story of "go into the afterlife to rescue your friends." Reminds me a lot of ancient mythologies like the Greco-Romans, the Mesopotamians, and the Egyptians. I like the concept of different spirits being sent to different realms suited to they lived. I am a bit torn on the added conflict of this Jailer guy redirecting spirits into his own realm. In my opinion, I don't necessarily mind the concept of that sort of story, having to help rebalance heaven and hell, but I wish it was one or the other, or at least the siphoning was more secondary. Still, so far, not that bad, but if it really does start getting more complex than it already is, it will likely lose me

  • @OrcForge
    @OrcForge Před rokem

    Damn Nix great video dude. I havent watched your channel in years.

  • @rmkolesnik
    @rmkolesnik Před rokem +1

    Really loved this video, Nixxiom! 😀👍

  • @angussharington2374
    @angussharington2374 Před rokem +3

    Warcraft 2 had some Aspect action! I remember freeing some dragon from the Dragonmaw, I coulod be wrong, but I think it was Alexstrasza.

    • @mirakil7636
      @mirakil7636 Před rokem +1

      I don't know if that was a mission, but in the Orc campaign you do go to secure a dragon roost, and Deathwing is a hero character in the expansion. In the game manual, the Dragon Roost is also described as 'being' Alextrasza.

    • @angussharington2374
      @angussharington2374 Před rokem +1

      @@mirakil7636 yeah something like that, it has been a little while :D

  • @thestalwartinefromstalwart4126

    If it's already winning, how come it's the first expansion that genuinely hasn't gotten me hyped at all? I'm only experiencing fear and anxiety to the point that I'm not sure I even want to buy it. The last time I experienced hype and hope, we got Shadowlands.
    . . . plus barely any of the major info about the new expansion has actually seemed relevant to me. Talents redone? Whatever. Professions changes? Whatever.

    • @AloraGoad
      @AloraGoad Před rokem

      What you're feeling is called "Expansion Trauma". You've been so disappointed already, why have any hope at all?

    • @tulersmeesh4077
      @tulersmeesh4077 Před rokem

      Give it a patch or two before deciding to buy it. Otherwise you're going to run into the same bad taste as Shadowlands, BFA, Legion until the last patch, and WoD. I personally don't see why people are hyping it up when the track record has been really bad for years.

  • @Falarson92
    @Falarson92 Před rokem +1

    Alexstrasza was in Warcraft II, though. And she appears in the WC3 manual too. Not sure about the others.

    • @Ordo1980
      @Ordo1980 Před rokem

      Deathwing was in the WC2 expansion. (Also in the unreleased Lord of the Clans.) But the different colors/types what we have as dragonflights were added in WC3.

  • @mscandlex
    @mscandlex Před rokem

    My body is ready for those Tuskarr fishing dailies...

  • @kaelbeuk1
    @kaelbeuk1 Před rokem +3

    I liked parts of Shadowlands because it was not that rooted in nostalgia and tried something new. It succeeded with some stuff, Anduin and Covenant storylines and interesting themes, but failed with the whole Jailer thing. Not that excited to go back to more "traditional" fantasy that tends to bore me a little.

  • @mitkoogrozev
    @mitkoogrozev Před rokem +3

    When Nixxiom asked "What is the most popular fantasy book ever written?" I thought he is going to say the Bible.

  • @goatyachty1762
    @goatyachty1762 Před rokem

    I really missed these nixxiom videos. I came up in the nixxiom top 10s and obviously the machinimas he made, also the crendor top 10s. I really miss that, I miss those simple videos that were filled with curiosity and discovery. That wasn't about loot or systems being good or bad. I just miss creating and leveling characters and making them look awesome and just seeing the world for what it was. Every now and then I go look at top 10s from nixxiom and man it puts a smile on my face

  • @Kingnothing818
    @Kingnothing818 Před rokem

    "No time travel"
    *points to Nozdormu doing time travel in the very first cinematic*

  • @preslim84
    @preslim84 Před rokem +3

    hopium indeed lul

  • @yashizuko
    @yashizuko Před rokem +2

    Based on how accurate you were with rings of power, i agree 100%

  • @chadjohnson8527
    @chadjohnson8527 Před rokem

    Yah I was concerned when on a full server there was no wait time to get in. Not because I enjoy that, but it does give me a sense of the game actually being popular again.

  • @TheGrinder_27
    @TheGrinder_27 Před rokem +4

    The talents are actually really good they just need to give us more points

    • @EnderChief10
      @EnderChief10 Před rokem +2

      maybe we will get 10 more leveling from 60-70 since theres no shared power this xpac?

    • @ianhorne9594
      @ianhorne9594 Před rokem +1

      You get a skill point alternating between class and spec tree for each level on your way to 70

  • @Naven251
    @Naven251 Před rokem +4

    Holy shit, the expansion didn't even come out and coping have already begun lmao. At the beginning people liked Shadowlands story and lore too btw.

  • @TheOdMan
    @TheOdMan Před rokem +2

    Can we trust Blizzard to make a good expansion? Ofc not, they'll just have to prove it by doing it. I don't play any more, and even if this turns out to be the best fucking expansion ever, I don't think I'll be coming back. But I truly wish they succeed here, they need to start rebuilding their reputation sometime, and why not now. I hope this can be a catalyst for a brighter future, one in which I wouldn't feel bad when playing some of their games again.

  • @losfer_astaria
    @losfer_astaria Před rokem

    My son is 6 yo and I decided to read "The Hobbit" with him.
    After the episode with the trolls who wanted to eat all the gnomes, I realized that he was scared. I asked him "Are you afraid?" He answered yes. And thinking a little added "But I'm very interested to know what will happen next."
    This very accurately describes my thoughts about DragonFlight...

  • @FreedomAndPeaceOnly
    @FreedomAndPeaceOnly Před rokem +6

    This is not a return to the roots from Blizzard. They are braindead and empty! 😏
    And with the Dragons this is just one of the last *EPIC THINGS* left which they know might interest the playerbase enough to care about the expansion.
    We got insulted as Allianceplayers and there are "Highelf skins" in the game now for Alliance & Horde even though the Highelfs have not even officially joined us as an allied Race.
    NOPE - I still feel antanogized & seen as the enemy. 😎Not that I want it. But I do at this point.

  • @DainnGreywall
    @DainnGreywall Před rokem

    "When they were first introduced in Wrath of the Lich King"
    Well... time for me to be mister "well akshually" because...
    WELL AKSHUALLY! The Tuskarr were part of the Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne campaign, seen briefly as neutral monsters in Northrend.

  • @anothervagabond
    @anothervagabond Před rokem

    "There's no alternate dimensions or time travel."
    I mean. One of the big previews was "Hey you're gonna get to go to an alternate Azeroth where everybody is murlocs.", and dataminers have found multiple maps of events in Azeroth's history, like the Pandaren Revolution.

  • @Dinawartotem
    @Dinawartotem Před rokem

    Hey Nixxium you forgot to mention the expansion that was between Shadowlands and Legion. It's called Battle For Azeroth and it was great right or did you just memoryhole that whole experience?

  • @shdwfxgamerz7667
    @shdwfxgamerz7667 Před rokem

    Well idk how many people have noticed but there just repeating the expansions vanilla

  • @theootsface
    @theootsface Před rokem

    Is it possible that queen azshara is in the dragon isles and maybe our opening to the old gods?

  • @skycowz2889
    @skycowz2889 Před rokem

    The very first thing I did in WoW was I found a mountain I could climb on and was observing my surroundings. Before yelling OLIOLIOLIOOOOOOOO!

  • @Astrowla
    @Astrowla Před rokem

    So, actually question: Do you think this is why Wildstar failed? It was too complicated?

  • @LoriFahy
    @LoriFahy Před rokem +1

    what i miss the most is the community. No one wants to help you out, or just play for fun. Its even seriously toxic in LFR .

  • @robfus
    @robfus Před rokem +1

    In classic wow the attenuament for a raid boss simply was discovering that this boss actually exist and stop him. It was an interesting experiance , for some it was annoying but for me it was really cool, before stopping the giant dragon lady, you have to find out that she is doing something bad. If I was a newbie player and none tild me shit, for me that was going to be a plot twist because lady Katrana give you also some quests.

  • @curiousluna88
    @curiousluna88 Před rokem

    So true! I started playing back in 2006-2007 and I still got my Belf Rogue and The Lich King was the best expansion for me. Draenor and Shadowland I'm not crazy about but I still play on and off

  • @BrennenPack111
    @BrennenPack111 Před rokem +2

    I am genuinely excited for Dragonflight after the prepatch. I am hoping so hard that the expansion doesn't dissapoint. But I have a good feeling.

  • @SophistictaedDevil
    @SophistictaedDevil Před rokem

    Gonna come back in 3 months after hearing those first 3 seconds. I wanna see how that intro statement is gonna age.

  • @philiplines6934
    @philiplines6934 Před rokem

    Love this channel bro

  • @jackedsaiyan2522
    @jackedsaiyan2522 Před rokem +1

    No time time travel,…
    Nozdormu: am I a joke to you?

  • @setshtc
    @setshtc Před rokem

    I agree with you 100%. No need afterlife and stuff like this - just a good old journey.

  • @Keilink
    @Keilink Před rokem +1

    The amusing hype at the beginning of Shadowland only to realise it was crap 3 weeks down the line.
    It will be the same for DF, no answers to that question untill everyone has finished leveling and finally get to the core of the expansion.
    This said, the only noticable point I've seen so far is that after 15years it's finally an option to make a Draenei rogue :'D

  • @yoshiguy123
    @yoshiguy123 Před rokem +1

    NOTHING WAS LEARNED. AROUND AND AROUND WE GO.

  • @SinAhmen
    @SinAhmen Před rokem

    I completely agree and can't wait to go on an adventure with my friends

  • @ryanjacques166
    @ryanjacques166 Před rokem +1

    Nixx said Tuskarr and I’ve never agreed more in my life fuck yea

  • @seraphinaeyukine
    @seraphinaeyukine Před rokem

    As a reliquary rper, I was so fucking stoked at the mention of the Dragon Isles and the expedition that is taking place. Its simple and refreshing too.

  • @EloquentTroll
    @EloquentTroll Před rokem

    There's a lot of differences between Taliesin and Nixxiom, but happy to see them come together on Tuskar

  • @torsten89
    @torsten89 Před rokem +2

    "Dragonflight doesn't look like complete garbage" 😂😂, it's sad how that is how low the bar has fallen. Blizzard has fucking destroyed this game.

  • @nightfox907
    @nightfox907 Před rokem

    This video made me sub. You have a way wild words. I appreciate your review.

  • @bitten4life
    @bitten4life Před rokem

    Will there be a borrow powered system like the previous expansion?

    • @cococock2418
      @cococock2418 Před rokem

      If yes, then I suggest not playing.

    • @bitten4life
      @bitten4life Před rokem

      @@cococock2418 I won't for sure, it's a diabolical system

    • @cococock2418
      @cococock2418 Před rokem

      @@bitten4life agreed