Old school Death Metal probably Altars of Madness for me. In 1989 or 90 I first heard the cassette....and my jaw was on the floor. Songs still really hold up today also. If I went to an MA concert and they played nothing but that entire first album, Id be happy af.
Now do a similar interview with King down in his basement abode, I wanna see lots of vinyl in milk crate and empty beer cans/bottles on the floor, with Bulldozer's Day of Wrath playing - not too loud, we still need to hear the lingo god damn it.🤘🏻
Deicide is definitely the greatest DM album, but oh man, how I love Legion. Also, Butchered by CC is my favorite from them and definitely worth buying.
so many bands I never heard of getting into DM at 16 in 1996 I am still finding bands in 2023 and I am 44! First 3 bands I heard were Deicide ST, Cannibal Corpse the bleeding, and Immolation here in after. completely altered my music tastes.
Mental Funeral was the first Autopsy album I bought, on the cover art alone, and it’s still my favorite to this day. In my top 5 favorite death metal albums ever, in fact. Severed Survival is one of my least favorite from the band’s catalog.
Talking of Youngstown, Ohio.. Athenar bought a WARFARE 7" off me when his old band BOULDER played at the 2nd STONER HANDS OF DOOM fest held at the Nyabinghi venue back in 2000. I remember he wasn't sure if he already had that 7" , but he still bought it. Good taste, Sir.
Left Hand Path Cause of Death Altars of madness Scream Bloody Gore (Check out an album called The Force by Onslaught, the first song Let there be death is incredible.)
Since some people mentioned the worst cover of all time. I nominate Poison Idea- Feel The Darkness as the greatest. Jerry A’s hand holding a gun to Tiny Tim’s head in a tastefully done black and white photo
Athenar is unchallenged. His musical knowledge and diversity is vast. And remember kids, even brutal death metal can trace it's origins back to the blues and classical.
Metal in general can be traced to blues, but brutal death metal and death metal in general is a significant break away from the harmony/form of blues. In fact, so is Nü metal!!
As I re-watch this, my poooooooser azz loves that Athenar has CAN, but no Cannibal. I am a fan of both. And a fan of Athenar -- he's a friend of friends of mine and a very down-to-earth MENSCH of a human.
Great channel, with great dudes with exceptional taste that almost never veers from my own There is no other channel that goes as hard and deep into the extreme as this one The greatest tho as most personal views are is very subjective And what are the standards for "greatest" Tho I agree with your conclusions
?????? QUESTION: Dawg and Devils: Do you own (or have heard) the Carcass live bootleg LP 'Notingham Rock City 11-14-89' ????? Just a few songs on each side and an interview, but I thought the art was cool as SH*T!! It has a compilation of art from other albums, including 'Chronic Corpora Infest', 'Mol3sting the D3capitated', and 'Tales Of N3crophilia'.
Sounds like the exact same date and venue that Morbid Angel played, which is included as a bonus dvd with certain reissues of Altars of Madness. However that disc is a crock of shit and a hoax, because it's clearly nothing more than the studio album mixed over the concert footage.👎 Oh yah, right, you were talking about Carcass.....well some of their stuff is pretty good too.
I've been jaming nekro drunkz because I don't wear pink panties, I eat them once they become all bloody, poop stained and thrown into a overflowing toilet \m/
My poser encounter story: Went to my nearest record store and a guy working there had a Mercyful Fate tour shirt on and he had a spikey mohawk and tattoo sleeves. I asked him if he went to the Atlanta show and he said yeah. I said it sucks they weren’t playing 90’s tracks on that tour and he got quiet and acted like he didn’t want to talk. He then claimed they played eight encores and when I questioned him, he said he had to help customers.
@@terridactyl5152 He had the colorful mohawk, maybe blue/ red and a bunch of bracelets on. Also facial piercings and his sleeves were color. He seemed like a dumbass 😂
I dig a few of Mercyful Fate's 90s tracks, but I was pretty satisfied to hear so much of Melissa, Don't Break the Oath, and Nuns Have No Fun played on this most recent tour.
So J-Dawg do you consider the 1st Bathory record to be black metal? I'm a bit surprised that you don't consider Venom to be the 1st wave of black metal. (Mayhem etc. is the 2nd wave)
He’s mentioned before he considers the first bathory album to be the first real “extreme “ metal album , even put it in his top 20 bm bands of all time
@@icankillbugs Slayer was inspired by Venom so they also started singing about worshipping satan...."black" metal means "satanic"....to normal people that is. 1981 Welcome To Hell 1982 Black Metal 1983 At War With Satan I know they're lame but I like them cuz I'm a poser.
The first 3 CC are pretty much mandatory if you're and DM fan ;) I don't know about the 'BEST' DM album is but one of my all time favorite DM albums is Necrophagia - Holocausto de la Morte. But I do miss the 1980s... motorhead / venom / hellhammer/ sodom/ destruction ....crossover , HC punk and metal was all aggressive... the (88-89) 1990s really changed everything. I was 20 in '91 and liked 'Mental Funeral' when it came out and still like it haha Love the low fi production.
I'm a 55 year old metal head, purchased Venom's Black Metal way back in 82' from an independent store called Central Station records here in Melbourne Australia so i have been into this stuff for a long time, i remember meeting a guy back in 91' at a gig, he said to me, "have you heard the latest Autopsy, it's the best death metal album of all time" he was of course talking about Mental Funeral.
well back in the day in the late 70's and early 80's here in south texas where mexican radio ruled the sound waves (thank God for Columbia house) and where the catholic church had a say so on what you could listen to, bands like kiss, black sabbath, iron maiden, rush, scorpions, judas priest, Led zeppelin, ac-dc and even boston were considered devil music..... and when the movie Heavy Metal came out that's when we started calling this type of music.... heavy metal in my area..... now its just classic rock.... Killer interview....
Midnight is the shit! Have a bunch of their vinyl. Several copies of some albums. Met him a few times back in the day when he was in Boulder. There’s gotta be more parts to this interview right?
Music is like food, if you like vegetables more than steak then that’s your choice. There’s no right or wrong answer. If you don’t like Cannibal Corpse, it doesn’t mean they’re a bad band at all. “You don’t like eating sushi?” “You’re a pooooooooser! Lol! Slayer! 🤘
I am in agreement. I like all sorts of stuff. Why limit life and all the things one can be excited about? I'll just keep Row row rowing my Canoe gently down the stream...
Any years of metal destroys whatever is going on now especially when do think that simplistic crap ball bands like midnight and mgla are good when it's just simplistic garbage
@Carr Cass I agree, for old school maniacs 80s and at least first years of 90s were and ever be best metal period imo. But what make this time really special is that we did not know that time how far next band, new album, can go with speed, brutality, vocals etc. and it was so amazing.
@@piotrkulpa8034 Metal has become a bit like basketball in the NBA. Everyone can shoot the ball from close to half court, the individual skill level is really high but the games are boring because of that and very few players have that swagger that they had back in the 80s and 90s. It's not all about technique.
@@RichardWolfe79 Really? Well then that's game-set-match on that matter. If Tom himself says Seltic. Plus it just sounds better to an American's ears. I've seen the Bostson Seltic's play, but never the Boston Keltic's.
I never buy my metal or any music. Torrent everything (being broke is a good reason). anyway respect to this guy for admitting CC isnt worth buying He's right too about the first wave, second wave, third wave BS being just that. BS. And the subgenres function as rules for artists. Mostly as restrictions.
Severed Survival definitely was a huge influence on the Death Metal scene, but I really think Suffocation is the biggest influence on the semi modern scene. But currently Entombed , Grave, and Nirvana 2000 probably are the biggest influence with all the retro Stockholm Death Metal bands
Most of the people say that the song "Black Sabbath" by BLACK SABBATH is doom, not for me because that song was way ahead of it time due to the occult lyricism and the heavy and dark riffs (the "Devil's Tritone"), so, for me, that song is the beggining of Blackened Metal (not black metal).
ironically to me the best death metal album (if i only allowed to pick one) is "harmony corruption" the only complete death metal album of napalm death.
The only CC album I was ever able to play all the way thru without turning off and/or becoming completely bored of (zoning out), is probably... Butchered At Birth. Idky? But it is what it is. As for best death metal album of all-time? Depends on the subgenre we're talking about... since many death metal bands don't even sound anything alike. You can't compare a slam band with a melodic death band nor to a old school band. This is why Venom doesn't work when you argue "best black metal band / album" considering they barely sound like anything compared to a Gorgoroth or a Wolfchant (for example).
Damn dude, let the man speak without interrupting every three seconds.
Athenar reminds me of death from family guy sometimes
Bro so true hahah
Would love a podcast with Fenriz and Athenar. Their knowledge of the underground metal scene is probably unmatched.
And Varg for good measure
King’s got ‘em both beat
I just wanna listen to Motörhead and drink beer with Athenar.
Old school Death Metal probably Altars of Madness for me. In 1989 or 90 I first heard the cassette....and my jaw was on the floor. Songs still really hold up today also. If I went to an MA concert and they played nothing but that entire first album, Id be happy af.
That was the first album that came to mind for me too.
Athenar seems like a really nice dude
NEXT: J-dawg interviews Chris Barnes.
J-Dawg: So Chris, what's up with those terrible cover albums?
Chris: EEEEEEEEeeeeeeeee
@@dinkins335WEEEEEEEEEED
Just let the guest talk, man!
Great vid tho.
Athenar is a funny dude. Every time I see a video of him he's always got some funny stuff to say. Seems like a cool guy.
His live banter and just overall stage presence is cool \m/
Seems like a tool bag to me
He seems like a pretty chill guy, as opposed to his live performances
Now do a similar interview with King down in his basement abode, I wanna see lots of vinyl in milk crate and empty beer cans/bottles on the floor, with Bulldozer's Day of Wrath playing - not too loud, we still need to hear the lingo god damn it.🤘🏻
Awesome interview J-Dawg. Hoping you get Paul or Brian or Roy from Embalmer soon and maybe even make it an hr long video!
Deicide is definitely the greatest DM album, but oh man, how I love Legion. Also, Butchered by CC is my favorite from them and definitely worth buying.
Self titled has a few amazing songs, but Legion is great from start to finish.
Most bands self titles are great
Thanks Athenar, thanks j dawg for the interview \m/
so many bands I never heard of getting into DM at 16 in 1996 I am still finding bands in 2023 and I am 44! First 3 bands I heard were Deicide ST, Cannibal Corpse the bleeding, and Immolation here in after. completely altered my music tastes.
I saw Midnight with Mercyful Fate in Cinncinatti. Nice interview!
Same here
Mental Funeral was the first Autopsy album I bought, on the cover art alone, and it’s still my favorite to this day. In my top 5 favorite death metal albums ever, in fact. Severed Survival is one of my least favorite from the band’s catalog.
I like Athenar.
Deicide - deicide is one of the best albums ever made imo 🤘
Talking of Youngstown, Ohio.. Athenar bought a WARFARE 7" off me when his old band BOULDER played at the 2nd STONER HANDS OF DOOM fest held at the Nyabinghi venue back in 2000. I remember he wasn't sure if he already had that 7" , but he still bought it. Good taste, Sir.
I went out and bought an Athenar brand microwave; all popcorn buttons!
The original yellow Goat 🐐 album cover art
YES MORE INTERVIEWS
In the NY area, Mental Funeral and In the Grip were really popular when they were released.
Left Hand Path
Cause of Death
Altars of madness
Scream Bloody Gore
(Check out an album called The Force by Onslaught, the first song Let there be death is incredible.)
Hell yea!!!! Good shit J Dawg!!! 🤘
GRAVE DIGGER rules and so does Athenar. Awesome interview. \m/
Athenar be like 'I can't see fuckin shit outta this thang'
Since some people mentioned the worst cover of all time. I nominate Poison Idea- Feel The Darkness as the greatest. Jerry A’s hand holding a gun to Tiny Tim’s head in a tastefully done black and white photo
That’s a classic album!
@@humanbrisket7718 fuck yeah it is. It’s the mutts nuts homie
I nominate Mithras - Worlds Beyond the Veil which I've dubbed "cosmic space weiners" over the years due to its cover.
That's a top 5 album of all time for me
Asphyx Last One on Earth is probably in consideration for my best Death Metal albums.
I second that.
I can go with that or Lefthand Path
Just all around good jams
not being able to hear anything cause of grave digger playing in the background has got to be the best thing about athenar
This was an awesome interview
There was poooooooser and conoe, but why didn't JDawg clean up the DyingFetus fan base with his automatic weapons?
Good observation, it's absence was sadly missed. Don't forget Dawg also has a flamethrower in his arsenal and he occasionally lobs grenades too.
Also no mention of Pantera?? Or side-werds caps? Starter jackets??
Perhaps JDawg forgot these tropes because he had had some beers with the boys whilst listening to that Soulfly that HHB stocks
Can't really disrespect Tom G infront of Athenar either!
@@hamachancutter he was really dying inside because of that and Athenars not giving a fuck about CC . he barely hold potential massive roid rage.
Athenar is unchallenged. His musical knowledge and diversity is vast. And remember kids, even brutal death metal can trace it's origins back to the blues and classical.
Yet, all he does is copy venom and wear that ridiculous halloween outfit. You metalheads are a bad joke.
Whatever this dude's a tool bag
Agree tony
Slam and dearh metal SUCK!. Regurgitation was the best band you mentioned.
Metal in general can be traced to blues, but brutal death metal and death metal in general is a significant break away from the harmony/form of blues. In fact, so is Nü metal!!
This is my favorite interview of yours by far, J-Dawg 😆 Athenar is always entertaining! Midnight and Whitespade 🤘 J-Dawg on Rauta-mode, goddamn it!!
lol rauta
heh, would love to see a conversation between him and rauta
This dude's a straight tool bag
Brah, Aethnar's collection is amazing but does he own Lubricator by Steel Dragon on vinyl? Possibly the greatest heavy metal record ever?
Stand up and shout!
Rip this hell was one of my fave tracks from the early 2010’s. Satanic Royalty 😈
Which Grave Digger song was that he was playing at the end of the video?
legion of the lost
I agree with him about Jeff's vocals - Jeff sounds like a tormented being which escaped hell to play metal
Athenar is a pretty awesome dude
This is awesome.
I always hated that alternate cover of Apocalyptic Raids too. I never understood why they reissued that album with a different cover.
Saw Midnight live with Mayhem. They were awesome!
Dudes got rolling stones mono box set dude knows his tunes 🤘🎵
Severed Survival is awesome and up there, but for me its a tie between Symphonies Of Sickness and Under The Sign Of The Black Mark
As I re-watch this, my poooooooser azz loves that Athenar has CAN, but no Cannibal. I am a fan of both. And a fan of Athenar -- he's a friend of friends of mine and a very down-to-earth MENSCH of a human.
Great channel, with great dudes with exceptional taste that almost never veers from my own
There is no other channel that goes as hard and deep into the extreme as this one
The greatest tho as most personal views are is very subjective
And what are the standards for "greatest"
Tho I agree with your conclusions
Athenar is the man.🔥☠🔥
Thank you for this hell's he'd bangers Justin midnight have all your records all the best
Athenar is always cool in interviews. We need a part 2!
This dude's a ball bag
Need a jdawg/athenar podcast
Respect Athenar.
Love Judas priest.
Justin manifested kreator into playing a special old school set
Dark Angel darkness descends \,,/
Love Autopsy ! Always have, always will
?????? QUESTION: Dawg and Devils: Do you own (or have heard) the Carcass live bootleg LP 'Notingham Rock City 11-14-89' ????? Just a few songs on each side and an interview, but I thought the art was cool as SH*T!! It has a compilation of art from other albums, including 'Chronic Corpora Infest', 'Mol3sting the D3capitated', and 'Tales Of N3crophilia'.
Sounds like the exact same date and venue that Morbid Angel played, which is included as a bonus dvd with certain reissues of Altars of Madness. However that disc is a crock of shit and a hoax, because it's clearly nothing more than the studio album mixed over the concert footage.👎
Oh yah, right, you were talking about Carcass.....well some of their stuff is pretty good too.
Athenar makes music i can fully Get Behind!!!
That's what he wants dudes behind him, bending him over
I saw Midnight in Detroit, they kick ass!
What Grave Digger is it?
Nice. Grave digger rules. That picture disc wall is sick too
I happen to be wearing a Gravedigger shirt at the moment.
I feel like nobody ever mentions Necrophagia. Their Death is Fun album came out in 84. They never get their due.
This video comes with a 100% no pink panties guarantee!!!!
Only in black here, brah brah. Midnight black! J/k 😹
I've been jaming nekro drunkz because I don't wear pink panties, I eat them once they become all bloody, poop stained and thrown into a overflowing toilet \m/
Hell ya interviews brah 👺🤘🏻🤘🏻👺👺👺👺👺👺👺👺
My poser encounter story: Went to my nearest record store and a guy working there had a Mercyful Fate tour shirt on and he had a spikey mohawk and tattoo sleeves. I asked him if he went to the Atlanta show and he said yeah. I said it sucks they weren’t playing 90’s tracks on that tour and he got quiet and acted like he didn’t want to talk. He then claimed they played eight encores and when I questioned him, he said he had to help customers.
8 encores? Is he on crack?
@@terridactyl5152 He had the colorful mohawk, maybe blue/ red and a bunch of bracelets on. Also facial piercings and his sleeves were color. He seemed like a dumbass 😂
Dude, as someone from Georgia, let me tell you: everyone in the ATL metal scene is a poser.
@@RichardWolfe79 he checked every box. 🤣
I dig a few of Mercyful Fate's 90s tracks, but I was pretty satisfied to hear so much of Melissa, Don't Break the Oath, and Nuns Have No Fun played on this most recent tour.
Did anyone else catch that weird look Athenar gave J-Dawg in the beginning ?
Anyone else notice this poser didn't even know that DF was 4th generation dm? 🤔
JDawg .. you forgot to say...
" What's heavier than panteribble "
This is excellent...
So J-Dawg do you consider the 1st Bathory record to be black metal? I'm a bit surprised that you don't consider Venom to be the 1st wave of black metal. (Mayhem etc. is the 2nd wave)
He’s mentioned before he considers the first bathory album to be the first real “extreme “ metal album , even put it in his top 20 bm bands of all time
@@icankillbugs does Slayer have blast beats and tremelo picking? hell awaits is more like the fast thrash beat isn't it?
@@icankillbugs Slayer was inspired by Venom so they also started singing about worshipping satan...."black" metal means "satanic"....to normal people that is. 1981 Welcome To Hell 1982 Black Metal 1983 At War With Satan I know they're lame but I like them cuz I'm a poser.
The first 3 CC are pretty much mandatory if you're and DM fan ;) I don't know about the 'BEST' DM album is but one of my all time favorite DM albums is Necrophagia - Holocausto de la Morte. But I do miss the 1980s... motorhead / venom / hellhammer/ sodom/ destruction ....crossover , HC punk and metal was all aggressive... the (88-89) 1990s really changed everything. I was 20 in '91 and liked 'Mental Funeral' when it came out and still like it haha Love the low fi production.
The first four. The Bleeding is their best.
I'm a 55 year old metal head, purchased Venom's Black Metal way back in 82' from an independent store called Central Station records here in Melbourne Australia so i have been into this stuff for a long time, i remember meeting a guy back in 91' at a gig, he said to me, "have you heard the latest Autopsy, it's the best death metal album of all time" he was of course talking about Mental Funeral.
well back in the day in the late 70's and early 80's here in south texas where mexican radio ruled the sound waves (thank God for Columbia house) and where the catholic church had a say so on what you could listen to, bands like kiss, black sabbath, iron maiden, rush, scorpions, judas priest, Led zeppelin, ac-dc and even boston were considered devil music..... and when the movie Heavy Metal came out that's when we started calling this type of music.... heavy metal in my area..... now its just classic rock.... Killer interview....
Sick metal room. Midnight rules!
Awesome!!! 😀 😎 👍
Thats some expensive picture discs to put up on the wall, lol.
Damn they made him put on a shirt
Athenar is on point with Severed Survival
Midnight is the shit! Have a bunch of their vinyl. Several copies of some albums. Met him a few times back in the day when he was in Boulder. There’s gotta be more parts to this interview right?
I seen Mortician in 99 in Arlington Texas probably 20 people there. Great fucking show
Grave Digger 🤘🏻
The 10th ringwraith was let go for not sounding scary enough.
The host talks more than the guest. Let your guest finish his sentences, man.
Yeah , ridiculous, it made, what could have been a great interview, annoying as hell .
I could never understand why shitfun by Autopsy gets dumped on, I like the shitfun release
Lol “dumped on” 😆
@@goat666db I thought the same thing 🤘😂
Music is like food, if you like vegetables more than steak then that’s your choice. There’s no right or wrong answer. If you don’t like Cannibal Corpse, it doesn’t mean they’re a bad band at all. “You don’t like eating sushi?” “You’re a pooooooooser! Lol! Slayer! 🤘
I am in agreement.
I like all sorts of stuff.
Why limit life and all the things one can be excited about?
I'll just keep Row row rowing my Canoe gently down the stream...
ANGEL WITCH
ANGEL WITCH
ANGEL WITCH
Athenar: "The 90s. The Lean Years of Metal." Well said. Never heard anyone refer to those metal years like that. Awesome interview Dawg!
Any years of metal destroys whatever is going on now especially when do think that simplistic crap ball bands like midnight and mgla are good when it's just simplistic garbage
@Carr Cass haha what parallel universe are you from?
@Carr Cass I agree, for old school maniacs 80s and at least first years of 90s were and ever be best metal period imo. But what make this time really special is that we did not know that time how far next band, new album, can go with speed, brutality, vocals etc. and it was so amazing.
@@piotrkulpa8034 Metal has become a bit like basketball in the NBA. Everyone can shoot the ball from close to half court, the individual skill level is really high but the games are boring because of that and very few players have that swagger that they had back in the 80s and 90s. It's not all about technique.
@@ludwiggengnagel6093 Well said, but still many great bands and grat albums, recently very into crust punk.
Aw man. No CC? Sheeeeiiiiiit. Ah well. Old school Grave Digger. Badass shit
“Seltic Frost” or “Keltic Frost”?? I hear people calling them either or. Which one is it?
Keltic. Easy to spot a nimrod when they say Selltic
I saw an old interview where Tom G pronounced it “seltic” but it is Keltic.
@@RichardWolfe79 Really? Well then that's game-set-match on that matter. If Tom himself says Seltic.
Plus it just sounds better to an American's ears. I've seen the Bostson Seltic's play, but never the Boston Keltic's.
Keltic 100%. The Celtic word was Seltic prior to 200 years ago, since then it's always Keltic. Tom G says Keltic too.
@@karlhowsatan Can’t wait to hear J-Dawgs take on this 😂
I never buy my metal or any music. Torrent everything (being broke is a good reason). anyway respect to this guy for admitting CC isnt worth buying
He's right too about the first wave, second wave, third wave BS being just that. BS. And the subgenres function as rules for artists. Mostly as restrictions.
If you ever get your money right CDs is way better than digital. That's why people still buy them
CC ... don't understand the hype around them. athenar reminds me of the guy from Persekutor
Severed Survival definitely was a huge influence on the Death Metal scene, but I really think Suffocation is the biggest influence on the semi modern scene. But currently Entombed , Grave, and Nirvana 2000 probably are the biggest influence with all the retro Stockholm Death Metal bands
Most of the people say that the song "Black Sabbath" by BLACK SABBATH is doom, not for me because that song was way ahead of it time due to the occult lyricism and the heavy and dark riffs (the "Devil's Tritone"), so, for me, that song is the beggining of Blackened Metal (not black metal).
Put POSERS on a Short 🚌's with Lift Kits!!! Lmfao 😀 Saw Midnight twice!!! We're Killer!!! 😎 👍
They must have not listened to Gore Obsessed, that album is hard
That's my least favorite CC album. 😳
Shitfun is awesome!
Great live album, whoever recorded it nailed their sound.
ironically to me the best death metal album (if i only allowed to pick one) is "harmony corruption" the only complete death metal album of napalm death.
Emtombed - Left Hand Path (for me..)
To me Portal -swarth is the best death metal album imo. Just check out my fav albums playlist on my channel.
Hey that’s actually a great choice imho, I love Portal. Swarth isn’t my favorite but lovee Werships
The only CC album I was ever able to play all the way thru without turning off and/or becoming completely bored of (zoning out), is probably... Butchered At Birth. Idky? But it is what it is.
As for best death metal album of all-time? Depends on the subgenre we're talking about... since many death metal bands don't even sound anything alike. You can't compare a slam band with a melodic death band nor to a old school band. This is why Venom doesn't work when you argue "best black metal band / album" considering they barely sound like anything compared to a Gorgoroth or a Wolfchant (for example).
Grave Digger is great
Old grave digger newer shit is a joke
@@aegisraven1284 agreed
Old Oz too.
J Dawg only likes 2 bands. He's a tough sell.