Rwanda bill to blame for ten years of deep divisions in Conservative Party blasts former Tory MP
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- “The truth is there is a deep divide within he Conservative Party…That did crystallise around the Rwanda bill.”
Former Conservative MP Miriam Cates says the Rwanda bill “epitomised” ten years’ worth of division within the parliamentary Conservative Party.
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They still don’t realise they were punished because of their arrogance., lies,deceit, self entitlement, greed and dishonesty!!!
It is not even only those behaviours, but the on-the-ground effects: run-down services and all the rest of it, which materially affect people's lives. If there were anarrogant, lying, deceitful, self-entitled, greedy and dishonest bunch of venal. corrupt bums, who had nevertheless provided, instead of destroying, libraries, swimming bath, sports halls, youth centres, old-age clubs, GPs, hospital matrons, dentists, properly surfaced roads, clean railways and water and so on, we may well have overlooked those peccadilloes.
For Gods sake, there is a new Labour government yet you are still reporting on the defunct Conservative Party as if they are still relevant🤦 Report on a competent government repairing the damage that these useless no marks have caused.
Maybe the press and the country are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. After 14 years of abuse by the clowns, we still can't let them go.
@@harveylimpopo3042 excellent wordings my friend
Lets not forget that Labour were a mess immediately after the last election and looked like they couldn't win for another decade yet picked up a huge majority at the next election. I don't want to see another tory government but we should recognise that it is absolutely possible
Miriam Cates is part of the problem. The electorate does not map the political landscape as left or right - but wrong and right. It understands first past the post and so the wipe out was intended, the flirtation with minor parties is intended. Voting is situational who is to say that with PR we wouldn’t get the same result? Reform’s 4m votes were piled up in a small number of constituencies when the savvy Labour and LibDems focussed their efforts on winning individual races. I am in Liz Truss’ old seat we openly spoke to other voters agreeing to vote for anyone but Truss and we wiped out a 24,000 majority. We are not political analysts but we understand how our politics works.
'Its not our fault we're incompetent, It's the public knowing what we're doing that makes us look incompetent'
Nailed it. They were totally incompetent for the 14 years in entirety but the media only started to notice stuff in 2021
Well said
I live in Miriam's constituency and nobody saw her campaigning at all. We got to speak to the winning Labour candidate on our doorstep. Miriam was a terrible MP, I'm glad she's gone.
Like ours too, and I've no doubt so many other Tories.
Stop trying to humanise the Tory party
It's 'The Times' - sadly it's hardwired into their DNA...
😂😂😂😂
I don't think it was Rwanda. It was that every tory pm after Cameron governed by soundbites without delivery. Tories appeared to only be there to spend our public money on enriching them and their donors. And they tried to divert attention by things like Rwanda, the lunatic conscription thing, and performative transphobia.
I’d say the Rwanda policy is a symptom - one of many, not the cause. It’s symbolic of the Conservatives being far more radical right wing than most of the country is as most people hated the idea.
They seem to forget they work for us, not themselves.
Former Tory MPs
How beautiful thst sounds
Every MP becomes "former" sooner or later
There's still a Conservative party? Missed opportunity there...
Didn't we rather clearly indicate that we don't care what these idiots think?
No, it was having a 80 seat majority and peeing it up the wall through internal scheming and squabbling.
An 80 seat majority based on the promise to control immigration. I watched a video of Boris saying he wanted the immigrants here a couple of months later
It's all me me me. And "how can we get back in power?"
Cates is a perfect example of what is wrong iwth conservatives.. I’m 10 mimutes into this self-pitying word salad that has no intention of discussing NHS, water, trains, doctors, and corruption. But let’s highlight Rwanda. Well, dearie, we’re done here because following the law seemed to not be something you valued. BTW, Sir Keir ended Rwanda after 6 pm on his first Friday, then worked tirelessly through the weekend on renewable energy, housing, the four nations, and UK security within NATO. That’s a positive difference in approach right there.: hard work on things that matter.
When one party tries to be the Government and the opposition in one, it doesn’t really work.
Amongst all the big names I had missed that Cates had lost her seat. What fantastic news. Cates is exactly the sort of fundamentalist extremist maniac that we dont need in our politics. If we never hear from her in public again it will be a good thing.
Johnson destroys everything he touches.
The Rwanda policy was immoral, illogical and impractical and was ideologically motivated rather than a practical policy to fix the base problem.
And illegal.
@@31Blaize BS!!
@@user-vz7sn9hh9d Sure. It didn't get struck down by the courts on multiple occasions, requiring the Tories to pass a law to say the moon was cheese, I mean Rwanda was safe. Right?
The Rwanda plan was never meant to work.
It was a push leave the ECHR... The obvious next step from Brexit to totalitarianism
@31Blaize Rwanda is a very safe country. It's not as if not very long ago they shot some migrants for asking for a little more food now is it? Whoops........wait a minute 😮
so let me get this straight: you had an 80-seat majority and couldn’t govern; what reforms did you want to remove?
Human rights act embedded into law the equality act plus Labour laws on sick pay and holiday pay.
The great bonfire of regs
To give you a snapshot of what the intended Water and legalizing dumping
@@SlowhandGreg funny I don’t remember seeing any of those on the side of the bus
Add Miriam Caites to the ‘tone deaf Tories’ pile 😂😂
You haven’t been punished enough far from it .
Cates remains completely bonkers. 😂😂
Instead of opposing the labour government why not try working with it to improve peoples lives?
They STILL don't get it!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAHAHAHAH (gasps for breath) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (choke). HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!!!!
The title of this video is an oxymoron! The idea that the UK could transfer failed asylum seekers to Rwanda only originated in the last few years so it cannot be "to blame for ten years of deep divisions in Conservative Party."
Nice to see Miriam and Rachael in their last media appearances before they drift off into the obscurity they deserve.
If Rachel from the Ditch feels bruised then she should stop punching herself. Stop talking to the losers.
What about all my tax money he wasted will we get it back don’t think so 😢a lot of there government officials are now driving around in bentleys and living 10 bedroom houses 😡
Proof?
We know all about tory weakness. No need to explain that after the last decade. 😂
Of course the Tory party was divided between two poles; the tax and spend on friends and family, nepocleptocrats; and the tea party libertarians.
Thank god both are gone.
80% of the country are fed up of them and are happy to see the back of them so Wish they would stop talking for at least a week or two go away find some humility and some new ideas but no they can’t.
They did change things. They did.
And everything got worse and worse and worse.
"Half of our party wanted to abide by international law" - telling.
I thought we had got rid of this lot….why is this channel still obsessed with them? WE DONT CARE!!
You only have to listen to their toff accents Oaf Wheely eeeee
They've been a divided party since the 1990s. When they got back in on the back of wide public dissatisfaction after the Global Financial Crisis they weren't a party who was actually ready to govern again, and all those old divisions over Europe resurfaced and we got dragged into it as a country. It was also unfortunate at the same time that Labour decided to have a nervous breakdown and provided ineffective opposition for the best part of a decade. I think and hope that the Tories will now go into a bitter battle with themselves for a decade, whilst a reinvigorated Labour Party is given enough time in power to clean up the mess and sets the country on a better and more equitable course.
Why isn't she at the Job centre, prooving she has been actively seeking employment? How many interviews in the last four days? No... not this one. Lol. 🎉
Those rules are only for the little people though
Cates sounds bonkers.
Every movie comes to an end but conservative party is just the beginning
Delusional
My heart bleeds.....
Proud of her record, what record apart from destruction and incompetence
This woman lives in the universe in her head.
14yrs of Tories in charge and yet GDP per capita is pretty much the same as 2010. A damming indictment of how Tories cared about nothing but their own careers and serving their donors with dodgy contracts. Always telling workers they should be grateful to have a job rather than fighting for better pay and conditions.
What did tories deliver?
Oh wo is me, we don't deserve any of this
I do not know if you can say that populism is a variant of conservatism. But it seems like the party has reached a crossroads. Go for traditional Toryism or go for populism. if the latter Reform will probably come and join you and there will be one main right wing party at the next general election. Or stick to traditional Toryism with more sensible policies but with 2 right wing parties at the next general election. As someone who never votes Tory I am glad this is not my problem.
How many deputy chair's have there been?!?
Poor Miriam. Somebody should have told her that it's better to keep quiet and have people assume you might be thick than open your mouth and confirm the fact. 😂
We still have a huge section of society we have to represent "...oh the sense of entitlement
She is clueless...
Bye bye Tory 😂😂😂 waste of money
160 plus seats majority is a "Tiny Mandate" haha, whatever you say dear!
I'm sorry I have zero sympathy for anyone. If you are knocking on doors defending lies then u are part of the problem. This Tory party have always been the same and last Friday was one of the greatest days in the history of this country.
Grief is not a weakness.
“Given so much to serve our party” … here is an idea .. next time (and we really hope there is never a next time) try “give so much to serve the COUNTRY”
Poisonous
Their back of an envelope leadership election system seems almost designed to promote division. They need the help of a genuinely independent expert how to replace it.
(Labour do too)
Come on @TimesRadio, that's a terrible headline! "Epitomised" and "To Blame" are NOT the same thing. There is no way the Rwanda Bill is responsible for 10 years of Conservative infighting. (For a start, it hasn't been around for 10 years.). It, along with many other policy issues, may have exposed the divisions, but it didn't cause them.
This is either incompetent writing or click-bait. Either way, it is beneath a publication of this standing.
Just hilarious.
If you have to work out what went wrong, then you where in the wrong job in the first place, even more in this case....give you a big clue how to work 7out what went wrong have a look at the negative comments on youtube trust me it's not rocket scienceor ask a 10 year old
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I think she's brilliant Kemi B., then again I would voting for anything but the Conservatives at the moment. Go girls (Semi and Suella). !
The only way that would have worked, would be to disallow 4.2 million unidentified Muslims from coming here in the first place, labour wanted this, and fact 49 Muslim country/s in the world Rwanda is not one of them, the Tory was never serious about deportation
Vile lot
Human? Hahahaha the worst humans yeah
Remember when we begged people from the West Indies to come over and join our work force in the 1950s and 1960s?
We now have a bunch of vacancies in our most important institutions (the NHS, education, social work) and we have the most NIMBY attitude when it comes to overseas support.
The reason you have shortages is because socialized services create shortages in those services.
Mass immigration was only putting an extra strain on those services.
@@drakethesnek6429Chocked on the economics text book? People don’t choose to get sick or old, even if the services are free. Those services are in demand due to an aging population and the improvements made in medicine. Doh!!
@@byrnemeister2008 irrelevant.
I can understand why the Tory Party want to subsume Reform though. Miriam's result was only just over Reforms vote. Oh dear. When you court Fascists I suppose. ....
Fascism is a leftwing ideology. Deportation is not fascism.
Sooner or later Labour ( and the rest of the EU) WILL have to adapt the Rwandan policy ( Sunak is 100% right) it's the ONLY solution
Did you mean adapt or adopt?
In your dreams, it is buried.
It's been scrapped. It was the first thing filed in the bin when our new Prime Minister took over.
It is no more. It no longer exists. Thank goodness.
No it isn't! Address the organised crime, address climate change, end regional conflicts with diplomacy! Rwanda just shifts the same problem to another area that will then fail!
Why are we still been bombarded with tories failure,their humiliating defeat is the best thing that's happened in this country why not forget the ars*holes and concentrate on the millions of families left struggling concentrate on NHS and dentistry