Quick question - If I have a PBI PRO license - Can I access that Premium Per User Workspace? Or as what was shown in the video it looks like if I create a PPU workspace ONLY other PPU users can access that workspace? Similarly - If I create a PRO workspace, can a PPU access content in my PRO workspace? Curious how sharing works between PRO and PPU
Anyone knows if Power BI Premium Per User does allow the use of the enhanced compute engine for dataflow? I reckon it stays a specific feature of Power BI Premium ... but have not been able to check that!
We are planning to have two separate premium capacity nodes in our project, one for Dev and Testing and another is for production, Can you please let me know what impact this may have on deployment pipeline ? Can we configure a pipeline to talk to two different nodes?
I just created a free Power BI service account & when I click on workspaces there is no diamond listed option like in yours, simply a 'Create a workspace' button at the bottom, & if click on that then it talks about setting up a Pro account ?!?
Does Premium Per User allow you to use the Power Automate flow action "Export to File for Power BI Reports" that is also in Preview right now? I currently have a Pro license and get this error when trying to use that flow: "Report requested for export is not on dedicated capacity". My company really wants the ability to automatically generate a PDF of a Power BI report and send it out via Outlook to specific employees. Right now we have to do this manually.
Hi, Can you please make a video on "CI/CD pipeline in GitLab that talks to Power BI Service and updates the ‘Development’ workspace of the project" (GitLab CI/CD integration with Power Bi deployment pipeline)
No. They would need a PPU license. I think there is an exception for Admins that they can still manage the workspace but not view the content unless they have a PPU license.
@@cfinlan Yes but if this would have been added to this individual premium licence then that will make more sense other wise the report consumer will also need that licence instead of pro licence. In small scale org buying premium node is expensive, but this individual licence is good to have if i can share the reports created in the workspace with other pro users. It will be useful only in case the price for this licence is closer to pro licence so that for small scale org can opt to this licence if needed. Correct me if needed anywhere. Thanks
@@ameyraj4947 We continue to say this was designed for smaller organizations and the price needed to be something that makes sense for this exact use case. People are making assumptions without knowing the price, and this was all accounted for.
Hi Adam, I am following you from quite long time... I started working with power BI since one year and Guy in a cube videos have helped me a lot. I have a question, Can we build a power BI dashboard that shows the refresh history of multiple datasets in different workspaces? Concentrating on the failure time and failure messages... It is for monitoring purpose. I have been searching the internet for a week now, anyone here... Please help. 😊
Still many things are not clear in Premium per user license. May be it will get cleared once Microsoft launches it. Btw what is the expected date of release for this feature?
No dates have been announced yet. We are waiting patiently. The FAQ (linked in the description) has a lot of info in there. Chris and team did a good job covering a lot of the items. What is not clear for you?
Hi Adam, you mentioned that only 'Premium per users' can access/share 'Premium per users' workspaces. But, if you generate an APP on a 'Premium per user workspace' and share that with free of pro users, is that possible?
When you talk about the workspace and only Premium per users being able to access that Workspace. I'm guessing that you cant create an App to share with users without Premium Per user license can view and interact with the reports. So essentially its exactly the same as Power BI Pro, in that everyone looking at reports in the App have to have Pro licences if its not premium capacity?
Thanks Adam. I am going to have a question for our Live Stream on Saturday. I got signed up for the trial that was announced but it isn't working. So I have a question for you that I will submit for Saturday! :)
Same as previous person asking :) - If you ever had a Pro trial before, there is a potential bug you’ll hit trying to enable the trial. A fix is rolling out now, but if you just contact support, they have a way to fix it for you.
@@cfinlan You were kind enough to reply to my email last week. The question I was going to post was super simple--what is the number for the right support number to call. :) LOL!
sigh it is so hard to find that number. I know it exists... i may even think it is 1-800-MICROSOFT (or something). Everything pushes towards an online request now a days.
Hi y'all, for some reason I still cannot active my PPU. After I created a new workspace, following Adam's steps, the PPU toggle is still greyed out for me. Does anyone have the same issue?
If you ever had a Pro trial before, there is a potential bug you’ll hit trying to enable the trial. A fix is rolling out now, but if you just contact support, they have a way to fix it for you.
According to Microsoft pricing calculator P1 node would be enough for 1000 users, even heavy users. P1 is 5000$ / month so anything that goes above 5 $ /month / user would be a robbery.
@@cfinlan Hi Chris. Because your own calculator suggests that P1 is enough for 2000 total users with 800 frequent. Plus still need to buy PRO for those who want to publish, nothing changes here.
That calculator is very simplistic and is only for a general sense. There are so many factors in play. As Chris mentioned, from a pure price perspective, 500 users would be the tipping point for a P1.
There one question not answered by the FAQ: Now I'm (and probably many working in corporate world are) using the Power BI Pro. If I try this trial PPU license and publish in my company's workspace where everyone else is Power BI Pro, would they be able to view the Power BI I publish? This is one thing stopping me from trying out the trial.
Do you perhaps know if there's a dataset refresh limitation of 8 with Power BI Premium Per User as well? We are replacing another tool and we were thinking of going with Power BI We are licensed for Power BI Pro but we have a requirement to refresh our datasets more than 8 times (no less than 12 times a day (15 refreshes maximum)) and we didn't really want to go with Premium Capacity just yet, because only a handful of users will be accessing the dashboards
@@michaelmays9415 Sorry if this came across negatively towards you. You are doing a great job and I love your videos. I am just venting because we are switching and I am trying to figure out all the licensing we need. Between Power BI and Azure it's an adventure for sure.
Bill Debevc I wouldn’t be sorry MS and azure licensing is really built to deceive - it’s a full time job to stay up with it. Not structured or accomodating to small dev houses or those with on premise solutions Cost of powerapps is crazy really
@@BillDebevc Not my video, I’m nowhere near knowledgeable enough to compare with the great Guy in a Cube team! And I didn’t mean my comment to come across as short, it was a genuine question - just saying that this difference could be a complication
What would be your ideal situation? how would you like it to be? I know licensing can be confusing sometimes. I personally have thought Power BI licensing has been more straightforward than others.
@@cfinlan So if I need PPU in order to have paginated reports, am I going to be able to distribute the paginated reports to users that do NOT have a PPU license? all of our department managers have a Pro license currently. Obviously, its hard to debate this without knowing the price point, but I would agree with @pa beader here... if I am right back to having to spend thousands of dollars per month just to get paginated reports, im going to have to look for another solution. Small/medium businesses just cant harbor that price tag.
If the report is not personalized then you can send it to one account and multiply it with power automate or any other way to forward an email or attachment to a group.
@@martinbubenheimer6289 thanks for the reply... I guess ill have to "get my feet wet" a bit to know what you mean by "personalized" in this context and to test out your Power Automate concept... would be nice if that would work. Im skeptical though. I guess if it works the same way as the Pro email subscriptions, people wont be able to read the report unless they have PPU license...
Seriously, Microsoft license sub sys is a mess. You never what you need to get things just work. And that PBI in 365 business is a complet mess : you need pro lic to share report.. Wait.. Your collegues need licence too, jut to use your report... Man
What would be your ideal situation Aboubacar? What makes sense to you? Per user licensing and Core based options are pretty typical - at least on the Microsoft side.
@@GuyInACube Ideal should be 1 lic must be needed for a user creating the report. Teammates should be able to open/share it, specifically if they are in the same 365 environment.
Thanks for all content as usual.
Appreciate that Sergio! 👊
Mine finally turned on yesterday! Very exciting.
Woot!
Hi, If I have premium per user license I can share the report with free account as well in my organisation?
So price will be somewhere between $10 vs. $5,000 per month... Very helpful, lol
Yes. a little tongue and cheek. Was said in one of our live streams. It's a true statement. Hopefully closer to 10 than 5,000.
Quick question - If I have a PBI PRO license - Can I access that Premium Per User Workspace? Or as what was shown in the video it looks like if I create a PPU workspace ONLY other PPU users can access that workspace? Similarly - If I create a PRO workspace, can a PPU access content in my PRO workspace? Curious how sharing works between PRO and PPU
With Pro Can I create a (public) gallery to share with prospective clients?
Why I can't turn back to Premium Capacity or disable Premium Per User as it was before?
And another quick one. Pro is bundled into the Office 365 E5 license. How will this effect the E5 license offering?
Anyone knows if Power BI Premium Per User does allow the use of the enhanced compute engine for dataflow? I reckon it stays a specific feature of Power BI Premium ... but have not been able to check that!
This sounds good, but it's hard to get excited without the price.
Indeed. You should still be excited though 😁 Price announcement will be here before you know it.
So, if we wanted could my org literally purchase a single PPU license? Is there a minimum qty requirement?
We are planning to have two separate premium capacity nodes in our project, one for Dev and Testing and another is for production,
Can you please let me know what impact this may have on deployment pipeline ? Can we configure a pipeline to talk to two different nodes?
I just created a free Power BI service account & when I click on workspaces there is no diamond listed option like in yours, simply a 'Create a workspace' button at the bottom, & if click on that then it talks about setting up a Pro account ?!?
Does Premium Per User allow you to use the Power Automate flow action "Export to File for Power BI Reports" that is also in Preview right now? I currently have a Pro license and get this error when trying to use that flow: "Report requested for export is not on dedicated capacity". My company really wants the ability to automatically generate a PDF of a Power BI report and send it out via Outlook to specific employees. Right now we have to do this manually.
Hi, Can you please make a video on "CI/CD pipeline in GitLab that talks to Power BI Service and updates the ‘Development’ workspace of the project" (GitLab CI/CD integration with Power Bi deployment pipeline)
Hello Does that mean if I publish a content for that workspace on my sharepoint page , will they be allowed to see it?
Good question 🙋♀️
If they have a Premium per user license, yes. Otherwise they would not.
Yeah PPU doesn't provide the sharing capabilities that Premium capacity does.
With the workspace and free users can’t access it, will pro users be able to access it though?
No. They would need a PPU license. I think there is an exception for Admins that they can still manage the workspace but not view the content unless they have a PPU license.
This is awesome only thing they should have provide with unlimited sharing.
We have that with Premium capacity. This is designed for customers that can’t afford that solution.
@@cfinlan Yes but if this would have been added to this individual premium licence then that will make more sense other wise the report consumer will also need that licence instead of pro licence. In small scale org buying premium node is expensive, but this individual licence is good to have if i can share the reports created in the workspace with other pro users.
It will be useful only in case the price for this licence is closer to pro licence so that for small scale org can opt to this licence if needed.
Correct me if needed anywhere. Thanks
@@ameyraj4947 We continue to say this was designed for smaller organizations and the price needed to be something that makes sense for this exact use case. People are making assumptions without knowing the price, and this was all accounted for.
@@cfinlan sure lets wait for the price to be out 😀
Hi Adam,
I am following you from quite long time...
I started working with power BI since one year and Guy in a cube videos have helped me a lot.
I have a question,
Can we build a power BI dashboard that shows the refresh history of multiple datasets in different workspaces? Concentrating on the failure time and failure messages... It is for monitoring purpose.
I have been searching the internet for a week now, anyone here... Please help.
😊
Still many things are not clear in Premium per user license.
May be it will get cleared once Microsoft launches it.
Btw what is the expected date of release for this feature?
No dates have been announced yet. We are waiting patiently. The FAQ (linked in the description) has a lot of info in there. Chris and team did a good job covering a lot of the items. What is not clear for you?
Thanks Adam. Is Power Bi Report Server available with PPU, so it will be able to share with other users ( also non PPU user)?
No, you don’t get PBIRS rights with Premium per user.
@@cfinlan thanks for the answer. It would have to easy.
Any info on how ppu would impact the app ? Can the app still be accessed by pro users ?
No, if they app has Premium features, you need the Premium per user license or Premium capacity.
Think its 20.00. I wonder if other premium per users use the same work space
OMG! Thank you, we were waiting for Power BI Premium cheaper! :-D
It is amazing! Can't wait for the price announcement. Great to see this become available for other folks that can't afford a Premium capacity.
Hi Adam, you mentioned that only 'Premium per users' can access/share 'Premium per users' workspaces.
But, if you generate an APP on a 'Premium per user workspace' and share that with
free of pro users, is that possible?
Hi Adam, I have the same question. can we share reports in PPU workspace with Pro users (for view only)?
When you talk about the workspace and only Premium per users being able to access that Workspace. I'm guessing that you cant create an App to share with users without Premium Per user license can view and interact with the reports. So essentially its exactly the same as Power BI Pro, in that everyone looking at reports in the App have to have Pro licences if its not premium capacity?
can i use embedd into an application with premium per user?
If the user is licensed yes. You can't use the Power BI Embedded approach with the Embed Token though. That requires an actual Capacity.
Thanks Adam. I am going to have a question for our Live Stream on Saturday. I got signed up for the trial that was announced but it isn't working. So I have a question for you that I will submit for Saturday! :)
Same as previous person asking :) - If you ever had a Pro trial before, there is a potential bug you’ll hit trying to enable the trial. A fix is rolling out now, but if you just contact support, they have a way to fix it for you.
@@cfinlan You were kind enough to reply to my email last week. The question I was going to post was super simple--what is the number for the right support number to call. :) LOL!
@@alt-enter237 LOL! Okay, that is actually a good question I don’t even know off the top of my head.
sigh it is so hard to find that number. I know it exists... i may even think it is 1-800-MICROSOFT (or something). Everything pushes towards an online request now a days.
Found it - it’s in the docs, actually. docs.microsoft.com/en-us/power-bi/admin/power-bi-cannot-sign-in
I wonder how this will effect those of us that are Microsoft CSPs and currently have clients with PBI Premium subscriptions.
If they have a Premium Capacity that is fine and they are good to go. They may not need Premium Per User.
Hi y'all, for some reason I still cannot active my PPU. After I created a new workspace, following Adam's steps, the PPU toggle is still greyed out for me. Does anyone have the same issue?
If you ever had a Pro trial before, there is a potential bug you’ll hit trying to enable the trial. A fix is rolling out now, but if you just contact support, they have a way to fix it for you.
@@cfinlan much appreciated!!!!
As Chris told me, that issue is immortalized in this video actually :)
According to Microsoft pricing calculator P1 node would be enough for 1000 users, even heavy users. P1 is 5000$ / month so anything that goes above 5 $ /month / user would be a robbery.
I don’t quite follow - if a P1 is $5000, and Pro is $10, wouldn’t 500 users be the tipping point?
@@cfinlan Hi Chris. Because your own calculator suggests that P1 is enough for 2000 total users with 800 frequent. Plus still need to buy PRO for those who want to publish, nothing changes here.
That calculator is very simplistic and is only for a general sense. There are so many factors in play. As Chris mentioned, from a pure price perspective, 500 users would be the tipping point for a P1.
There one question not answered by the FAQ:
Now I'm (and probably many working in corporate world are) using the Power BI Pro.
If I try this trial PPU license and publish in my company's workspace where everyone else is Power BI Pro, would they be able to view the Power BI I publish?
This is one thing stopping me from trying out the trial.
That is answered by the FAQ - everyone needs the license.
Yes I understand that which i assume is referring to the paid version. Wat I meant was the trial licence.
The trial is treated like the full license while the trial is in effect.
Do you perhaps know if there's a dataset refresh limitation of 8 with Power BI Premium Per User as well?
We are replacing another tool and we were thinking of going with Power BI
We are licensed for Power BI Pro but we have a requirement to refresh our datasets more than 8 times (no less than 12 times a day (15 refreshes maximum))
and we didn't really want to go with Premium Capacity just yet, because only a handful of users will be accessing the dashboards
Read the FAQ and saw that the refresh rate is also set to 48 just like in Premium Per Capacity,thank you...
Yup it is Premium. 48 times a day for scheduled refresh.
Also, Premium Per User is on the Gen2 infrastructure, so you aren't gated to 6 concurrent refreshes or anything like that.
Unlimited sharing is really the most important feature for a small/midsize business, so I don't find this to be a very attractive option.
Sorry to hear that. Yeah it is limited to Premium Capacity for that option.
Why can't Microsoft make licensing easy? They could learn from Tableau here.
Does Tableau even have a free license though?
@@michaelmays9415 Sorry if this came across negatively towards you. You are doing a great job and I love your videos. I am just venting because we are switching and I am trying to figure out all the licensing we need. Between Power BI and Azure it's an adventure for sure.
Bill Debevc I wouldn’t be sorry
MS and azure licensing is really built to deceive - it’s a full time job to stay up with it. Not structured or accomodating to small dev houses or those with on premise solutions
Cost of powerapps is crazy really
@@BillDebevc Not my video, I’m nowhere near knowledgeable enough to compare with the great Guy in a Cube team! And I didn’t mean my comment to come across as short, it was a genuine question - just saying that this difference could be a complication
What would be your ideal situation? how would you like it to be? I know licensing can be confusing sometimes. I personally have thought Power BI licensing has been more straightforward than others.
Let Microsoft know that Pro should really be able to share from PPU. Otherwise PPU becomes much less interesting.
Premium capacity provides unlimited sharing - can’t break that with Premium per user. Each user needs a PPU license.
@@cfinlan Guess we'll stick with Report Server.
@@cfinlan So if I need PPU in order to have paginated reports, am I going to be able to distribute the paginated reports to users that do NOT have a PPU license? all of our department managers have a Pro license currently. Obviously, its hard to debate this without knowing the price point, but I would agree with @pa beader here... if I am right back to having to spend thousands of dollars per month just to get paginated reports, im going to have to look for another solution. Small/medium businesses just cant harbor that price tag.
If the report is not personalized then you can send it to one account and multiply it with power automate or any other way to forward an email or attachment to a group.
@@martinbubenheimer6289 thanks for the reply... I guess ill have to "get my feet wet" a bit to know what you mean by "personalized" in this context and to test out your Power Automate concept... would be nice if that would work. Im skeptical though. I guess if it works the same way as the Pro email subscriptions, people wont be able to read the report unless they have PPU license...
I just want to use pro with my gmail account.😮🙄
You could kinda do that. as an external user (guest account in Azure AD) and then assign a pro license to that.
600 € per month, not for me and a lot of small compagnies
Seriously, Microsoft license sub sys is a mess. You never what you need to get things just work.
And that PBI in 365 business is a complet mess : you need pro lic to share report.. Wait.. Your collegues need licence too, jut to use your report... Man
Yes, you need either a user-based license for everyone or a core-based license.
@@cfinlan Yeah, this is a complete none Sens in a corporate environment.
Those big changes in all Microsoft lic ruine user experience.
What would be your ideal situation Aboubacar? What makes sense to you? Per user licensing and Core based options are pretty typical - at least on the Microsoft side.
@@GuyInACube Ideal should be 1 lic must be needed for a user creating the report.
Teammates should be able to open/share it, specifically if they are in the same 365 environment.