I've been wishing for this for ages. The BMPCC 6K Pro is perfect for me...except for the awkward form factor. I'm really hoping they release that this year.
It was an absolute pleasure to help you. As you already know, I think the Z Cam is really cool. But the BMPCC 6k is also a very good camera. But if I had to choose I would go for the Z Cam. Still cool video although the sound seems a bit very quiet to me. Greetings Basti ;D
I prefer BM just because in real world you need a software you can rely on, quick easy menu. Can film without external monitor it's more practical even at half the price of zcam
I live in the real world and own the f6, and had the bm, prior. Would 100% choose the zcam over the bm any day. Modular, internal pro res + raw and I can go on and on
Hmm, I chose the BMPCC 6k image as the best every time. I've been waiting to see a comparison with the F6. I was contemplating picking up one of the ZCams due to it's body and features but every time I like the image better with the Blackmagic. I also like B Raw and am a Resolve user. I currently own both the BMPCC 6k and 4k and I just picked up Juan Melara's Alexa PowerGrades and wow does it make the BM cameras even better!
Thanks for your feedback mate. Yes as a Resolve user the z cam doesn't make to much sense to be honest. Which is unfortunate hope that will change in the future but as said b raw is far better. And I don't spend 5k for a camera just to shoot in ProRes.
@@pauleporterdp My pleasure! Exactly.. It won't happen but every camera company should implement BRAW into their cameras. It's a great codec. Small size, great performance, lots of tweaks available at the file level and in my opinion much better than ProRes Raw.
Yes I also don't understand the hype of ProRes Raw. R3D and BRaw are the best raw formats. So I also would love to see BRaw in more cameras especially z cam 🙂 I also asked that in the z cam group and they mentioned something like the negotiations with Blackmagic about that broke up. So I don't see a chance for BRaw on zcams 🤔
@@pauleporterdp I'm sure it's Blackmagic making it hard for others to implement it since they sell cameras. It's not like RED has licensed out R3D. Sucks
Great video! I own and use the ZCAM F6 professionally and love it! By the way Adobe Premiere 2020 can handle ZRAW with the new plugin and it works and looks wonderful! As well the latest ZCAM firmware has better sound quality. :)
I like the ZCam look overall - a touch better. Also it's form factor/battery life are a win. Not to mention it's ability to do open gate for HD. And smaller/better build. Lot's to like but the BM is awesome too - I love my UMP 4.6K! I'd expect the ZRaw to get figured out at some point.
Great video, I was so confused with the recent Blackmagic PYXIS 6k full frame camera, everyone is so excited but Zcam already has a camera which is box style and 6k and full frame that too with 15 stops of DR.
Paul Piasecki - Director of Photography thank you Paul. I asked a couple of Zcam owners and they said that if you need to repair the cam you have to send it to Hong Kong but they send you the camera back within less than 7days. Overall they said that the service is super responsive. ;)
Did you use a IR cut on the pocket camera? If not, that's where the red is coming from. From what I'm seeing the Z Cam is softer while the Pocket if sharper, showing more flaws.
Thanks for watching. Intentionally I didn’t use any filters on the cameras to show the „true“ colours. But yeah the Pocket has a problem with IR Pollution
@@pauleporterdp the Pocket definitely has IR pollution issues, I tested with a few black shirts and hoodies and the pollution responds differently to different dye, but black only exaggerate the pollution. I really like the E2 as well and may grab the M4 version soon.
You need to use color space transform for LOG footage. Contrast and saturation won’t get you good results because it’s not a linear format. That’s why your colors were off.
Zcam is TWICE the price. Isn't that a factor worth mentioning? Well, I guess most of us know that already, but it's s HUGE thing. If the BMPCC6K was better than the ZCam, that would be a very bad thing (for ZCam.)
Thank-you for the comaparison! IR pollution may be confounding the comparison. You can see this in your black shirt. The BMPCC6K may need an IR cut filter.
Hi Brett. Thanks for your feedback. I didn’t put any filters on them to show the “true” image of both. But yes normally I always use an IR Cut filter on the pocket :)
Awesome Video! I like the Z-Cam image better. I think the form factor of the Z-cam is a huge plus as well. Would love to see them on a gimbal, do they have autofocus at all or would you have to rig a focus pull on the gimbal as well?
Thanks mate, glad that you like it 🙂 totally agree the shape of the zcam is great. Yes they have autofocus but it's pretty much not useable I think. So world recommend to pull focus manually 🙂
Technically it has but it is not useable. It is a cinema camera like the Blackmagic and cinema cameras are meant to used on Set with a 1st AC so you shouldn’t rely on it.
BM cameras have a lot of empty space inside, if they could re-design the body to make it cube shape, accommodate mini v-mounts and maybe even FF sensor - that would be the best cinema camera on the planet
Awesome review and comparison. I still think they are not all apples and both cameras are made for different situations. The Z Cam wins this one to me :)
I liked the form factor and look at high iso of the ZCAM, but I feel like it’s almost like a beta product for now, the menus and the fact you can’t shoot raw in a widespread format - PRORES RAW would be great...
@@premiumparis Does that mean we need the Atomos Monitor SSD to record the prores raw? Or can we do it with an internal CFast 2.0, as long as the monitor is attached?
Thanks mate will definitely do. Rolling shutter means that the sensor isn't reading the image as a whole. Instead it captures each line from top to bottom very fast to create the image. However fast moving objects appear bended because they moved during the sensor captures the image and because the object is at a different position when the camera captures the bottom line as it was when the camera captured the top line the object appears bended even though The object itself is straight. 😬
Sehr gutes Video, danke! Was denkst du zwischen der A7siii und der Zcam F6? Kommt dazu evtl mal ein Video? ;) Mach auf jeden Fall weiter so mit deiner Qualität!
Grüß dich Tamino 🙂 danke dir für dein Feedback. Also persönlich würde ich immer eine Cinema Kamera bevorzugen obwohl die A7S3 schon verdammt viel kann 🙂 alleine auch der bessere Post Workflow durch internes ProRes spart einem dann viel Zeit im edit. Ich schaue das ich auf jedenfall eine A7S3 zum Testen bekomme und werde dann ausschließlich berichten 😎
@@pauleporterdp Vielen Dank für die Antwort! Das wär hammer :D Ich weiss nicht, ob ich zu einer Cinema Kamera wechseln will oder zu einer a7siii upgraden... Der Autofokus ist bei unseren Arbeiten auf dem Gimbal schon ziemlich wichtig... Ich müsste wahrscheinlich beide Seiten testen.
Hello. I’ll try but the Sensor in the 6k pro is the same as in the 6k so colours/ DR and everything will be the same as in this video. The only difference would be the design of the 6k pro. So you’re probably better off watching my video the 6k vs 6k pro ;)
Hi friend. Nice video! Im a bit confused, hope you can help. Id like to get the zcam e2 s6, but id need the different prores flavors (not RAW) for 5.8k. Is this possible in camera, or with the Atomos Ninja V? Or is prores only possible in 4K on this camera
I liked A Camera Better than B Camera and I thought A was BMPCC but I was wrong lol :( either way love both the cameras I own the BMPCC 6k and Am very happy with it :)
Can I use bmpcc 6k for web series or short film with different light setup and in final cut pro x? What it will be look like professional? Plz help What Mft sensor squiz the screen?
Z cam for me and I’ve had the URSA/ pocket 4k / pocket 6k….. their user interface is beautiful with blackmagic… but that form factor along with battery opinion/ and lens mount swap is needed for me. I will go with the E2-S6 most likely. If Blackmagic would just give us a URSA or pocket in a square form factory It would completely kill the game. Blackmagic cams are a pain to gimbal run or are heavy ass F#%#
I liked the Z Cam more in every single shot. Maybe I missed it but where you recording prores or prores raw to Ninja? You said you liked BRAW far more than Pro Res RAW. Why? I have FCPX and have dabbled a little in Resolve but that was several versions ago.. and frankly my 2014 MBP 15” probably isn’t up to snuff for the 6K BRAW or Pro Res RAW. Form factor the Z cam wins for me. I have used the BMPCC4K and the monitor is frankly useless in anything other than studio, so you still need to bring an Atomos or similar good monitor with you. If BM updated their Micro to a big brother cube super 35 or full sized sensor I would just got that route. But yes, BM you need to white balance on everything. I’ll look at the higher end Z cams... As I expected though your thoughts the DR was about the same.. the 13-15 stops I am guessing is potential DR while shooting log or even rating their ZRAW which is fairly pointless. So most of these under $4,000 cameras are really 11.5-12.5 stops of DR. IT’s just what flavor of log, lighting, grading you do can get you the advertised hire DR which is of course marketing... would that be a fair statement? Just a guess knowing how advertising works. :)
Hello, I am a film student and I plan on buying one of these ccamera's, Which one would do me good until I can save for a great camera like a Canon C500 MkII ???
@@tre_tha_beast6848 If you have the budget and want a proven cinema camera, consider the RED Komodo which is far superior to both of these cameras at $5995 US. But in comparison to the Komodo the blackmagic 6k is the closes in regards to color science and dynamic range.
It's a a Carbon Fiber Composite Polycarbonate. It's plastic. Sometimes a carbon fiber infused plastic can add some heat resistance and strength, but it is much closer to plastic in properties than carbon fiber.
Was the audio for this run through the Z-Cam? It sounds...really, really harsh and awful. No offense, not your fault, but god was it ever hard to listen to. There was an incredibly noticeable difference when you did the test with the Pocket 6K preamps, but the rest of the video was rough. Ade the Z-Cam preamps really that bad?
Hi Adam thanks for your feedback. I honestly was really shocked how bad it was. Since I thought I did something wrong but every time I repeated the test I always got the same results. So yes unfortunately the preamps aren’t good at all.
@@pauleporterdp you can get better audio from a $200 tascam recorder, which is what I do for all my audio, then again you have 48v Phantom power for XLR and a ton of gain that you can add so obviously the audio is massively better plus the preamps are from a known manufacturer.
I'm not sure where this misconception that BRAW is better than ProRes comes from. It's been proven time and again that ProRes is that little bit better at preserving details than BRAW as BRAW is more compressed.
zcam has the sony a7iii sharpness that I dont like.It doesn't have detail but fake looking sharpness.The zcam s6 footage looks more detailed in my opinion.
BMPCC 6K = $2,000 ZCam E2 F6 = $4,000 Is the ZCam F6 worth twice the price? No way. Here the F6 has shallower DOF due to FF, giving it a more pleasing image, but simply changing the lens on the BMPCC6K would allow the BMPCC6K to match the DOF. My big nit pick with the ZCams in general is the color science and skin tone. The skin looks too pink, which is a huge no, no.
the comparison test is kinda flawed, the 6k has a better image but its easy to tell which is which because of the crop factor. z cam fanboys out here in force.
I wish people would stop using raw as a selling feature, raw is stupid to use it’s not a pro feature it’s more for someone who doesn’t know what that are doing,
So which camera do you guys prefer?
The z cam really catched me. Thank you.
The bmpcc 6k😎
Pocket 6k!
Bmpcc 6k
Z cam (But I am biased because I already made the decision and purchased the e2s6.. 😁)
Wish they would make the BMPCC in modular box style like the Z cam and reds.
thanks for watching and your comment :)
They do have cube cameras, I don't remember the name though. But they aren't as recent as the BMPCC.
@@TheNefastor Yeah the micro cinema cameras, but they're severly limited and way too small.
I've been wishing for this for ages. The BMPCC 6K Pro is perfect for me...except for the awkward form factor. I'm really hoping they release that this year.
A better comparison would be the ZCAM E2 S6. It is quite easy to figure out which is full-frame
Thanks for your feedback. I did especially this comparison since so many asked for it.
@@pauleporterdp Which video is it?
I want pocket 6k with Zcam body🙏🙏
This would be great indeed. Thx for watching. ☺️
Thats what most of us want haha!
Facts
It was an absolute pleasure to help you. As you already know, I think the Z Cam is really cool. But the BMPCC 6k is also a very good camera. But if I had to choose I would go for the Z Cam.
Still cool video although the sound seems a bit very quiet to me.
Greetings Basti ;D
Likewise 🙏 z cam does many things right but didn't pull the trigger on things that are most important to me. : DR, Codec and Menu 🤔
Great video. I went with the F6 personally, but it's great how many amazing and affordable tools we have nowadays.
Yes that's true. Both cameras are great and you don't do anything wrong with either of them 😎
I prefer BM just because in real world you need a software you can rely on, quick easy menu. Can film without external monitor it's more practical even at half the price of zcam
Totally agree with you. Thanks for your feedback 🙂🙏
I live in the real world and own the f6, and had the bm, prior. Would 100% choose the zcam over the bm any day. Modular, internal pro res + raw and I can go on and on
@@cgthevision8958 lol if you want 420 pro res get a zcam otherwise stick with the 6k.
@@cgthevision8958 Z cam is double the price of a BM
Just realized the F6 is a $4000 full frame camera ... kind of a weird comparaison. Would love to see the P6K against their S35 more affordable camera
Yes I did because many of the viewers asked especially for this comparison. 🙂
Hmm, I chose the BMPCC 6k image as the best every time. I've been waiting to see a comparison with the F6. I was contemplating picking up one of the ZCams due to it's body and features but every time I like the image better with the Blackmagic. I also like B Raw and am a Resolve user. I currently own both the BMPCC 6k and 4k and I just picked up Juan Melara's Alexa PowerGrades and wow does it make the BM cameras even better!
Thanks for your feedback mate. Yes as a Resolve user the z cam doesn't make to much sense to be honest. Which is unfortunate hope that will change in the future but as said b raw is far better. And I don't spend 5k for a camera just to shoot in ProRes.
@@pauleporterdp My pleasure! Exactly.. It won't happen but every camera company should implement BRAW into their cameras. It's a great codec. Small size, great performance, lots of tweaks available at the file level and in my opinion much better than ProRes Raw.
Yes I also don't understand the hype of ProRes Raw. R3D and BRaw are the best raw formats. So I also would love to see BRaw in more cameras especially z cam 🙂
I also asked that in the z cam group and they mentioned something like the negotiations with Blackmagic about that broke up. So I don't see a chance for BRaw on zcams 🤔
@@pauleporterdp I'm sure it's Blackmagic making it hard for others to implement it since they sell cameras. It's not like RED has licensed out R3D. Sucks
LUT noted thanks
Great video! I own and use the ZCAM F6 professionally and love it! By the way Adobe Premiere 2020 can handle ZRAW with the new plugin and it works and looks wonderful! As well the latest ZCAM firmware has better sound quality. :)
Thank you 🙂 oh that's great to hear hope this will be implemented for Resolve as well 🙂 thanks for watching 🙂
I like the ZCam look overall - a touch better. Also it's form factor/battery life are a win. Not to mention it's ability to do open gate for HD. And smaller/better build. Lot's to like but the BM is awesome too - I love my UMP 4.6K! I'd expect the ZRaw to get figured out at some point.
Hi Chris thanks for your feedback. Yes I really hope it will be possible with zraw at some point
Great video, I was so confused with the recent Blackmagic PYXIS 6k full frame camera, everyone is so excited but Zcam already has a camera which is box style and 6k and full frame that too with 15 stops of DR.
The PYXIS has arguably the same sensor as the zcam F6 as well as the Lumix S1h
@@pauleporterdp yeah but not the same level of DR, correct?
Great comparison thank you Paule. I liked the pocket more but both are really close. 😎
You're welcome 😎 thanks for watching.
I wonder how the Z Cam customer service is being such a new company? Overall seems like a great option, nice video Paule!
Paul Piasecki - Director of Photography thank you Paul. I asked a couple of Zcam owners and they said that if you need to repair the cam you have to send it to Hong Kong but they send you the camera back within less than 7days.
Overall they said that the service is super responsive. ;)
Paule Porter DP Thanks for this info, this makes it hard to choose ! Ha
You’re welcome Paul. Soo true.... 😂😂
Did you use a IR cut on the pocket camera? If not, that's where the red is coming from. From what I'm seeing the Z Cam is softer while the Pocket if sharper, showing more flaws.
Thanks for watching.
Intentionally I didn’t use any filters on the cameras to show the „true“ colours.
But yeah the Pocket has a problem with IR Pollution
@@pauleporterdp the Pocket definitely has IR pollution issues, I tested with a few black shirts and hoodies and the pollution responds differently to different dye, but black only exaggerate the pollution. I really like the E2 as well and may grab the M4 version soon.
great video paule. the audio difference is shockig but prefer the image of the z cam
Thanks for your feedback and for watching of course 🙂
Good points. Only get the Bmpcc 6k if you want to grade your raw footage👍
Thanks for your feedback. ☺️ Yes exactly 😎
You need to use color space transform for LOG footage. Contrast and saturation won’t get you good results because it’s not a linear format. That’s why your colors were off.
Thanks mate, but there is no preset for Z-Log which would result in an unfair comparison.
Paule Porter DP why penalize the P4K for the limitations of the zcam?
@@Bobbylopezcreative That could be looked at as a limitation of Resolve lol
The best review I've seen so far
Thank you so much :)
@@pauleporterdp keep the good work up God bless
The Z Cam image quality wins here, but for the overall usability especially in post, I would still pick up the BMPCC, the BRAW is just hard to beat.
Indeed braw is really great and is a breeze to use 😊
Your channel is amazing dude! Keep going!
Hi Luis, thank you will definitely do so ☺️
Great video as always. Personally I prefer the z cam in terms of color and DR. Thanks for this detailed comparison.
Totally understand you. The F6 impressed me. Glad that you liked it
Yea the z cam has more dr, you can tell look at the details in the treese 11:22 . It just pops out more.
I like the bm a Little More. Great Video and Detailed comparison
Thank you for your feedback ☺️ and for watching 😎
Z CAM for sure. Beautiful images. Think I want to grab the F6 for myself!
Thanks man for watching :)
Zcam is TWICE the price. Isn't that a factor worth mentioning? Well, I guess most of us know that already, but it's s HUGE thing. If the BMPCC6K was better than the ZCam, that would be a very bad thing (for ZCam.)
Thanks for your feedback mate. Actually I mentioned that at the end. ;)
Thank-you for the comaparison! IR pollution may be confounding the comparison. You can see this in your black shirt. The BMPCC6K may need an IR cut filter.
Hi Brett. Thanks for your feedback. I didn’t put any filters on them to show the “true” image of both. But yes normally I always use an IR Cut filter on the pocket :)
Awesome Video! I like the Z-Cam image better. I think the form factor of the Z-cam is a huge plus as well. Would love to see them on a gimbal, do they have autofocus at all or would you have to rig a focus pull on the gimbal as well?
Thanks mate, glad that you like it 🙂 totally agree the shape of the zcam is great. Yes they have autofocus but it's pretty much not useable I think. So world recommend to pull focus manually 🙂
I'll always pick BMPCC 6k anytime any day comparing the price point, so much value at such price point
Yeah the value of the bmpcc is crazy good
Does the z can have a continuous auto focus? Cause I heard that the black magic doesn’t have that.
Technically it has but it is not useable. It is a cinema camera like the Blackmagic and cinema cameras are meant to used on Set with a 1st AC so you shouldn’t rely on it.
BMPCC 6k can use NPF battery to and its not difficult to plug it. :) For example Tilta adapter
Yes true but I rather have it „in camera“ than using 3rd party accessories
BM cameras have a lot of empty space inside, if they could re-design the body to make it cube shape, accommodate mini v-mounts and maybe even FF sensor - that would be the best cinema camera on the planet
Yes that would be great but let’s see if the rumours become true
Great video!! I prefer Zcam for The je ne sais quoi. Ce bon. I’m wondering how it holds up in extreme weather have you had any chances to test. ?
Merci beaucoup :) Check out my z cam F6 review yes it’s like a tank.
: czcams.com/video/8H7CQPT5JOE/video.html
Awesome review and comparison. I still think they are not all apples and both cameras are made for different situations.
The Z Cam wins this one to me :)
Thanks for your feedback. I’m glad that you liked it :)
I liked the form factor and look at high iso of the ZCAM, but I feel like it’s almost like a beta product for now, the menus and the fact you can’t shoot raw in a widespread format - PRORES RAW would be great...
Thank you for watching mate.
It does have Prores Raw
Mullins Moments not internal... over HDMI like the sony
Mullins Moments the pocket 6k shoot BRAW internal - which opens with davinci - arguably the best coloring software
@@premiumparis Does that mean we need the Atomos Monitor SSD to record the prores raw? Or can we do it with an internal CFast 2.0, as long as the monitor is attached?
All Blackmagic needs to do is release camera in the micro form factor.
Indeed that would be great
What about their micro cinema and micro studio cams?
@@C8Quest long overdue an update.
It was obvious which one was Z Cam and the P6K. The frame gives it all away. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for your feedback
So what camera are you shooting this video with? Where you're sitting in your studio? Looks great!
Thanks, that’s my old studio. I think I’ve shot that on my R6.
Great review man keep up the good work...what exactly is rolling shutter? That's one term I haven't understood in filmmaking
Thanks mate will definitely do. Rolling shutter means that the sensor isn't reading the image as a whole. Instead it captures each line from top to bottom very fast to create the image. However fast moving objects appear bended because they moved during the sensor captures the image and because the object is at a different position when the camera captures the bottom line as it was when the camera captured the top line the object appears bended even though The object itself is straight. 😬
Very nice review. Keep up the good work.
Thank you mate really appreciate your feedback.
Great video - fair comparison 👌
Thanks. Glad that you liked it mate.
that latitude is in the blacks of z-cam is just sad lol but I liked the whites of it. Was the dynamic range part shot in prores?
Since I can’t open z raw I filmed everything in ProRes to make it as fair as possible.
Bro Very very very.....v...v.... 👍GOOD COMPARISON👌 These New Good and Hardworking CZcamsrs .😁FULL SPORT BRO CARRY ON😁
Thanks mate, glad that you like it. Will do my very best 😀
This is making me want to sell my 6K and get an S6. F6 is a bit out of my budget.
I think the S6 and Bmpcc share the same sensor but both are great cameras. Thanks for watching
What mic are you using?
It’s the Rode NT USB ;)
Wow!Nice comparsion!
That intros song is free for youtube videos?
No it’s from epidemic sound
Sehr gutes Video, danke! Was denkst du zwischen der A7siii und der Zcam F6? Kommt dazu evtl mal ein Video? ;)
Mach auf jeden Fall weiter so mit deiner Qualität!
Grüß dich Tamino 🙂 danke dir für dein Feedback. Also persönlich würde ich immer eine Cinema Kamera bevorzugen obwohl die A7S3 schon verdammt viel kann 🙂 alleine auch der bessere Post Workflow durch internes ProRes spart einem dann viel Zeit im edit.
Ich schaue das ich auf jedenfall eine A7S3 zum Testen bekomme und werde dann ausschließlich berichten 😎
@@pauleporterdp Vielen Dank für die Antwort! Das wär hammer :D
Ich weiss nicht, ob ich zu einer Cinema Kamera wechseln will oder zu einer a7siii upgraden... Der Autofokus ist bei unseren Arbeiten auf dem Gimbal schon ziemlich wichtig... Ich müsste wahrscheinlich beide Seiten testen.
I liked the Z Cam img better! But what is the memmory used in it?
Thanks for your feedback you mean how many gb of Footage or what cards I used?
The ZCAM had an auto focus?
Yes but it is not really useable
Hello! I hope you make a review on the Black magic 6k pro vs zcam e2 f6. It would be very helpful for me deciding on the cam I'm gonna buy😁
Hello. I’ll try but the Sensor in the 6k pro is the same as in the 6k so colours/ DR and everything will be the same as in this video. The only difference would be the design of the 6k pro. So you’re probably better off watching my video the 6k vs 6k pro ;)
Sure! Thank you for the reply!😊
this camera has wifi transmite? how can you use the phone like a monitor?
Thanks
Yes you can. Works great
The redness after wb correction is due to lack of ir filter
Thanks for watching and supporting my channel.
Can the Zcam use Sony lenses?
Not yet but Zcam is working on an E mount
What song did you use for your intro?
It’s from epidemic sound. It’s ooyy - ganji
Hi friend. Nice video! Im a bit confused, hope you can help. Id like to get the zcam e2 s6, but id need the different prores flavors (not RAW) for 5.8k. Is this possible in camera, or with the Atomos Ninja V? Or is prores only possible in 4K on this camera
Hi thank you. I’m not sure since I used the F6.
But all shooting modes should be visible on the website
Zraw works in Adobe Premiere Pro. Naively
Thanks for the feedback.
12:24 Are you shooting in Prores on the Z Cam for these?
Yes, since I can’t open raw
@@pauleporterdp When you connect a monitor to the Z Cam you get focus peaking abilities on the monitor correct?
I liked A Camera Better than B Camera and I thought A was BMPCC but I was wrong lol :( either way love both the cameras I own the BMPCC 6k and Am very happy with it :)
Hi Matty, thanks for watching and same here 🙂 bmpcc is a great camera and certainly better in terms of raw workflow etc 🙂
@@pauleporterdp I agree! Thanks for making such a detailed and helpful video! This was awesome 😊
You're welcome Matty 😉
Can I use bmpcc 6k for web series or short film with different light setup and in final cut pro x? What it will be look like professional? Plz help
What Mft sensor squiz the screen?
Yes sure you can use it for that :)
@@pauleporterdp Thank you 🙏🙏
Z cam for me and I’ve had the URSA/ pocket 4k / pocket 6k….. their user interface is beautiful with blackmagic… but that form factor along with battery opinion/ and lens mount swap is needed for me. I will go with the E2-S6 most likely. If Blackmagic would just give us a URSA or pocket in a square form factory It would completely kill the game. Blackmagic cams are a pain to gimbal run or are heavy ass F#%#
Thanks for your feedback mate
I liked the Z Cam more in every single shot. Maybe I missed it but where you recording prores or prores raw to Ninja? You said you liked BRAW far more than Pro Res RAW. Why? I have FCPX and have dabbled a little in Resolve but that was several versions ago.. and frankly my 2014 MBP 15” probably isn’t up to snuff for the 6K BRAW or Pro Res RAW. Form factor the Z cam wins for me. I have used the BMPCC4K and the monitor is frankly useless in anything other than studio, so you still need to bring an Atomos or similar good monitor with you. If BM updated their Micro to a big brother cube super 35 or full sized sensor I would just got that route. But yes, BM you need to white balance on everything. I’ll look at the higher end Z cams... As I expected though your thoughts the DR was about the same.. the 13-15 stops I am guessing is potential DR while shooting log or even rating their ZRAW which is fairly pointless. So most of these under $4,000 cameras are really 11.5-12.5 stops of DR. IT’s just what flavor of log, lighting, grading you do can get you the advertised hire DR which is of course marketing... would that be a fair statement? Just a guess knowing how advertising works. :)
Thanks for watching and your feedback
Hello, I am a film student and I plan on buying one of these ccamera's, Which one would do me good until I can save for a great camera like a Canon C500 MkII ???
I suggest the bmpcc 6k
@@pauleporterdp Much thanks im selling my photography stuff on ebay for the 6k rn
@@tre_tha_beast6848 If you have the budget and want a proven cinema camera, consider the RED Komodo which is far superior to both of these cameras at $5995 US. But in comparison to the Komodo the blackmagic 6k is the closes in regards to color science and dynamic range.
Superb!
Thank you very much 🙂
will you install or have you installed the olpf on the pocket?
Yes I already have. I'm using the Magic booster
@@pauleporterdp not the magic booster, the ir and moire cut olpf from rawlite
Anyone know that background music in this video?
I’ve used multiple ones which one do you mean?
I'd like to see it against the A7S3
Thanks for your feedback. Don’t have that one ;)
Pretty sure the red shift is caused by infrared pollution at your shooting conditions
Yes that’s true.
@@pauleporterdp yeah, I got the IR UV from haida in germany and since than it has been TAG UND NACHT. Better than ICE :D
Z CAM E2 F6 footage looks better
Thanks for your feedback 🙏
Image quality wise the Blackmagic is Much better. The Raw works great not like that zraw stuff. Great free software too in the package
Thanks for your Feedback Mate 😙
If the pocket could sort out the blacks
You mean the IR pollution?
Black magic has better image Z cam just has better low light
Thanks for your feedback ☺️
FYI : the pocket feels like plastic but it’s actually carbon fiber : lighter than metal but stronger ... that’s what race car use ;)
Thank you for your feedback. Yes indeed software on the z cam feels like beta hope that will be improved overtime.
It's a a Carbon Fiber Composite Polycarbonate. It's plastic.
Sometimes a carbon fiber infused plastic can add some heat resistance and strength, but it is much closer to plastic in properties than carbon fiber.
Thanks for your clarification 🙂
Pocket 6k Pro with cube/modular body
Yes that would be great 👍🏻
Thank you for your video ! Which one is A though
Watch the video my friend ;)
@@pauleporterdp I like to watch while jumping 😆
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Thanks Mate :)
@@pauleporterdp thank you sir,i wish you best,your videos are beautiful
Weird people like Z cam better... I picked B right away. Z cam color doesn’t look that great.
Thanks for your Feedback Mate 🖐🏻
I'm a pocket 6k user. I actually thought the z cam image was like 2% better, but the camera costs twice as much and doesn't even have a screen.
Same here. I chose B immediately. Not that much better but still better.
@@JoshuaStancea thanks for your Feedback 😗
@@DonWayFilms thanks mate
Alright! Let’s just make the next red $3000
Don’t know if that will happen :)
I liked the z cam better
Thanks Brittney. I totally agree with you :)
Was the audio for this run through the Z-Cam? It sounds...really, really harsh and awful. No offense, not your fault, but god was it ever hard to listen to. There was an incredibly noticeable difference when you did the test with the Pocket 6K preamps, but the rest of the video was rough. Ade the Z-Cam preamps really that bad?
Hi Adam thanks for your feedback. I honestly was really shocked how bad it was. Since I thought I did something wrong but every time I repeated the test I always got the same results. So yes unfortunately the preamps aren’t good at all.
@@pauleporterdp you can get better audio from a $200 tascam recorder, which is what I do for all my audio, then again you have 48v Phantom power for XLR and a ton of gain that you can add so obviously the audio is massively better plus the preamps are from a known manufacturer.
Sound is funny.
Thanks for your feedback
I'm not sure where this misconception that BRAW is better than ProRes comes from. It's been proven time and again that ProRes is that little bit better at preserving details than BRAW as BRAW is more compressed.
Thanks for your comment - I made a different experience to be honest.
zcam has the sony a7iii sharpness that I dont like.It doesn't have detail but fake looking sharpness.The zcam s6 footage looks more detailed in my opinion.
Thanks for your feedback
POCKET 6K better!
Thanks for your feedback mate
Bmpcc everyday because u can take this to places zcam can't be taken
Hi Kamil, thanks for your feedback 😄
Kinda misleading using the F6 instead of the S6. But I would go with Z Cam.
I know the S6 makes more sense but this comparison was requested ;)
Camera A
Thanks for your feedback.
BMPCC 6K = $2,000
ZCam E2 F6 = $4,000
Is the ZCam F6 worth twice the price? No way. Here the F6 has shallower DOF due to FF, giving it a more pleasing image, but simply changing the lens on the BMPCC6K would allow the BMPCC6K to match the DOF. My big nit pick with the ZCams in general is the color science and skin tone. The skin looks too pink, which is a huge no, no.
Thanks for your feedback but I have to disagree I think the skin tones of the z cam looks better on BM it looks to reddish
I'm so confused. Your accent was American when you said "hey guys", but then became German afterward.
As said I’m German ;)
the comparison test is kinda flawed, the 6k has a better image but its easy to tell which is which because of the crop factor. z cam fanboys out here in force.
thanks for your kind words
ZCAM BETTER
Thanks for your feedback
Z cam rolling shutter looks bad
It’s ok definitely better than bmpcc 6k.
I wish people would stop using raw as a selling feature, raw is stupid to use it’s not a pro feature it’s more for someone who doesn’t know what that are doing,
Thanks for watching anyways