I accidentally left one of these in my pants pocket when doing laundry. Had the light had a charging port I would now be one light poorer. However, the light came out clean and functioning! I was super impressed.
You can use any wireless charger (”qi charger”) to charge these. For someone who already has flat wireless chargers around the house for charging phones, airpods etc. the cradle becomes optional.
@6:27 The turn signal mount is now out on their site. Looks way better using a typical saddle mount and way less clunkier than their kickstarter prototype.
The review here is excellent. It is also accurate! Your time and experience is appreciated! I've invested in Lumos and my neighbors are impressed. The cost? Well, Kickstarter pricing made my purchases possible. Thanks, again. 😀
Excellent review. I've run them through a winter of night-time city commuting in Melbourne, Australia mounted on the bar-ends of my drop-bar gravel bike. They supplement a much brighter rear flasher on my rear rack and a twin beam Ay Up front light setup. The bar-mounted remote control to flick between turn indicator and flashing red is really nice and really adds to visibility. As you noted, battery longevity could be better, but I carry spare units and swap them over when they fail. Yeah, not ideal, but works for me. The remote also needs recharging but I get about 4 weeks so I *could* charge more routinely. Finally, I think the bar-end mounts are the best I have ever used for mounting anything. These lights are not falling out or off. However, the internal cage is brittle and I am not the only user who has had them break - again, version 2 will make these magnificent.
6:00💩💩💩😂😂😂 All joking aside I have been a user of Lumos products for over 3 years, their smart helmets greatly increased my confidence on London roads. This review has helped cement my decision in investing in a set if Fireflies. Thank you for a great in depth review. Liked and subscribed! 👍🏽
I have the Unit 1 Aura System arriving next week. Similar concept, lights can be front/white or rear/red independent of app, phone or Bluetooth. How? Flip upside down to change, similar to RedShift's ArcLight Pedals. Brighter than Lumos - .5 x 6 inch "wands" with magnetic mounts. Aura helmet is lighter, more comfortable, better fitting and venting is truly next level - best of ANY Helmet to date. Ebike speed certified. Safety, visibility, crash detection alerting GPS sent to assigned contact. Finally: Directional lights, "blinkers" only communicate effectively if they have context. As you said, otherwise it's a blinking light. Best way to communicate this is making BOTH SIDES light. One blinks or sequences, the other steady on for context. Adding multiple light sources to show the intent is better still -IF done properly. Its not a light show, its a communication method. Aura is at the head of the group, and focused - no Bluetooth speakers, phone call management here.
I had the Aura show up last week and completely disappointed by it. I’m interested to see where you end up! The button is insanely hard to use. I’ve emailed multiple times about it and they have brushed it off. The lights are pretty limiting on where I can mount them on my bike. I love the flipping to white/red but don’t move the lights a ton so I don’t mind the app integration. There is no sound indication is the helmet has turned on or not…. The visor is easily bumped off, same with the shield. Removing the shield with the visor on means the visor pops off :(
I like that the lumos helmet has a visor, I get lots of road crud in my eyes if they're not protected. I would want a bill to keep the sun out of my eyes too.
Thank you for the video! Worth mentioning is the wireless charging is using standard Qi, so your wireless phone charge (or even your phone with share batter capability) can charge those on the go. Also, for a "smart light" that doesn't integrate with my Garmin bike computer (to auto turn on/off, battery level monitoring), this is not that smart.
@@BikeShopGirl You explained well. The idea of having to make lights talk to phone is inherently scary. A simple remote that looked like a car or motorcycle light control would work better for an old codger like me.
I am very interested in this product and have already purchased the ultra helmet this video has me thinking about ordering the four pack flights and the charger to go with it, thanks for this video!
I was going to get the Lumos ultra helmet but to me it looks like they are nickel dimming you on lights that seem to beta at best. I still may get the helmet but I will be looking at alternatives ways of having turn signals if I have them at all I’ve not had them for 40 years so I’m in no rush but I do need a safer helmet for my new ebike my old one was slow I used a regular non mips helmet .
I also would like to know if the white/red can be off and only function as turn signals. For the Lumos Ultra helmet this is possible in the flash pattern creator in the app, where the white/red light can be set to always off.
It’s not possible, but both front and back have a blinking pattern that does not use much battery. Also even with a helmet, when you indicate right (for example) the front left lights up white while you’re indicating. That’s not a problem for battery life but it makes the signal harder for another road user to see. Apparently the Lumos company does not consider that you might want to use the indicators in the daytime or with other lights.
G’day Bike shop girl, I require your input. I picked these up on a Kickstarter (4 pack with quad charging mat) a long time ago when they first launched but yet to try them out (I’ve had them well over a year now) I had plans to put on my Apollo City Pro scooter but use a Livall (NH51M / NSO) smart Helmet instead that has integrated turn and brake lights built in. My plans for the fireflies were prior to the Livall so my preference now is to use the fireflies on an E Bike (yet to be purchased) Just struggling on which Lumos helmet to compliment the Fireflies, in your opinion which is your preferred Helmet to match? The Ultra E bike or Ultra Pro ? Anything else in the Lumos line up? Most of my riding is in the warmer months of spring / summer. Whatever suggestions you have would really help in my decision
Hey David! How fast is your scooter/bike? The ultra e-bike is rated to a higher speed and has the face shield. You could always use the firefly lights without a helmet :)
Thanks for this. Been contemplating getting a set since I saw them on Kickstarter. Do I understand correctly though that you always need to turn them all on individually? EG you can't leave them on your bike and then use them as indicators without first turning them all on every time you get on the bike? Thanks.
That is correct. They are battery powered so you need to turn them on/off. You can turn them off all at once since they are connected once awake but turn on individually.
I wonder for charging the light would a apple or Samsung watch chargers work you can generic ones for a few dollars that’s a lot cheaper than that leather case
Yes! You can double up lights in one spot. I have 3 turn lights per side on one bike with a trailer. Front, back and back on trailer. I’ll include that in the final review.
It really is unfortunate when a great product decides to use their own proprietary charging options. Like you've mentioned, it's inconvenient to have to bring along the proprietary charger. It's also a pain to lose the charger and have to spend quite a bit of money to replace it. As for the people who say that it's fine because it makes the lights waterproof, that's a horrible reason. Many USB C ports are water proof with a silicone cover and many are waterproof even without a cover, like your phones. We literally have action cameras that people take into the ocean with them. The decision for a company to make their own proprietary charger is mostly a money driven decision, so don't try and defend them.
I wouldn't even pay 100 bucks for 4 and the cradle a magic shine works for me and a £20 flood light with dipped and high beam with strip daylight running light. Can't justify it with what's available
I just really want to know if they are worth using as brakes and turn signals. For that price point, they seem expensive, but a ton of turn signals and brake lights are trash.
@BikeShopGirl yes, and if you take out the swapping between bikes and people, you never use it as a head light, and you aren't using it with one of their helmets... is it worth it just as a turn signal and brake light.
@@whatwhy1533 I have 8 of them total. 4 live on the cargo bike I ride the most. The other 4 rotate between things :) I think they add a lot to the visibility in darkness but in a busy city they make get lost in the lights and commotion
So there is smart braking feature in any of there product lines? in other words no firefly will change to a bright red steady light upon stopping or braking ?
I think maybe my comment was unclear. I noticed I left out the word ''no'' before the word ''smart'' , so it should have read So there is no smart braking..... You see the whole point of smart braking as I've heard the term used, is that it's automatic, because you can't obviously be actively riding and using a remote simultaneously, certainly not when coming to a unexpected stop.
Can you tell me the specific model ? because anything involving the application of a remote in real time braking is crazy, how can you press your remote safely while also actively braking with both hands?
I accidentally left one of these in my pants pocket when doing laundry. Had the light had a charging port I would now be one light poorer. However, the light came out clean and functioning! I was super impressed.
You can use any wireless charger (”qi charger”) to charge these. For someone who already has flat wireless chargers around the house for charging phones, airpods etc. the cradle becomes optional.
Oh! This is good to know!!
@@BikeShopGirl My assumption is based on the fact that the two different wireless chargers I have both work with Fireflies. :)
This channel needs to be more popular…. such good production quality!
Aww thank you!
The thing I love about not having a charging port is that the light is definitely waterproof. :)
i've already dropped mine twice! other than that, so far so good :-) all 4 still work after dropping them!
Great feedback!
Intuitive and in-depth I have yet to receive my charging mat but overall lights are good as they claim.
They can all turn off together but why not all turn on together?
@6:27 The turn signal mount is now out on their site. Looks way better using a typical saddle mount and way less clunkier than their kickstarter prototype.
Mine arrived. It certainly does look better. I hope to try it some this winter
The review here is excellent. It is also accurate! Your time and experience is appreciated! I've invested in Lumos and my neighbors are impressed. The cost? Well, Kickstarter pricing made my purchases possible. Thanks, again. 😀
Are you pairing them with a helmet?
@@BikeShopGirl Yes! Also the mounted turn signal. The system works very well.
Excellent review. I've run them through a winter of night-time city commuting in Melbourne, Australia mounted on the bar-ends of my drop-bar gravel bike. They supplement a much brighter rear flasher on my rear rack and a twin beam Ay Up front light setup. The bar-mounted remote control to flick between turn indicator and flashing red is really nice and really adds to visibility. As you noted, battery longevity could be better, but I carry spare units and swap them over when they fail. Yeah, not ideal, but works for me. The remote also needs recharging but I get about 4 weeks so I *could* charge more routinely. Finally, I think the bar-end mounts are the best I have ever used for mounting anything. These lights are not falling out or off. However, the internal cage is brittle and I am not the only user who has had them break - again, version 2 will make these magnificent.
6:00💩💩💩😂😂😂
All joking aside I have been a user of Lumos products for over 3 years, their smart helmets greatly increased my confidence on London roads.
This review has helped cement my decision in investing in a set if Fireflies. Thank you for a great in depth review. Liked and subscribed! 👍🏽
I have the Unit 1 Aura System arriving next week. Similar concept, lights can be front/white or rear/red independent of app, phone or Bluetooth. How? Flip upside down to change, similar to RedShift's ArcLight Pedals. Brighter than Lumos - .5 x 6 inch "wands" with magnetic mounts. Aura helmet is lighter, more comfortable, better fitting and venting is truly next level - best of ANY Helmet to date. Ebike speed certified. Safety, visibility, crash detection alerting GPS sent to assigned contact.
Finally: Directional lights, "blinkers" only communicate effectively if they have context. As you said, otherwise it's a blinking light. Best way to communicate this is making BOTH SIDES light. One blinks or sequences, the other steady on for context. Adding multiple light sources to show the intent is better still -IF done properly. Its not a light show, its a communication method. Aura is at the head of the group, and focused - no Bluetooth speakers, phone call management here.
I had the Aura show up last week and completely disappointed by it. I’m interested to see where you end up!
The button is insanely hard to use. I’ve emailed multiple times about it and they have brushed it off. The lights are pretty limiting on where I can mount them on my bike. I love the flipping to white/red but don’t move the lights a ton so I don’t mind the app integration. There is no sound indication is the helmet has turned on or not….
The visor is easily bumped off, same with the shield. Removing the shield with the visor on means the visor pops off :(
Thanks for the in-depth review! Thinking about getting these for my new RadExpand e-bike.
I like that the lumos helmet has a visor, I get lots of road crud in my eyes if they're not protected. I would want a bill to keep the sun out of my eyes too.
The missing bill does make me turn to other helmets when it’s super sunny!
Thank you for the video!
Worth mentioning is the wireless charging is using standard Qi, so your wireless phone charge (or even your phone with share batter capability) can charge those on the go.
Also, for a "smart light" that doesn't integrate with my Garmin bike computer (to auto turn on/off, battery level monitoring), this is not that smart.
I use the Bontrager lights with my garmin. Are there others?
@@BikeShopGirl Cycliq dashcam&lights theoretically, but I never had reliable experience though
I really appreciate this review and clear explanation. At the same time, I find the cost and the complexity very intimidating.
What part feels complicated? Happy to make another video.
@@BikeShopGirl You explained well. The idea of having to make lights talk to phone is inherently scary. A simple remote that looked like a car or motorcycle light control would work better for an old codger like me.
I am very interested in this product and have already purchased the ultra helmet this video has me thinking about ordering the four pack flights and the charger to go with it, thanks for this video!
I was going to get the Lumos ultra helmet but to me it looks like they are nickel dimming you on lights that seem to beta at best. I still may get the helmet but I will be looking at alternatives ways of having turn signals if I have them at all I’ve not had them for 40 years so I’m in no rush but I do need a safer helmet for my new ebike my old one was slow I used a regular non mips helmet .
Hi. Do these always have to blink or stay on? Or can they just light up only when i need to turn. Thank you.
Good question. I don’t think there is a standby for turn that I’ve found.
@@BikeShopGirl i just want it to stay off till i use the signal lights to save the battery
I also would like to know if the white/red can be off and only function as turn signals. For the Lumos Ultra helmet this is possible in the flash pattern creator in the app, where the white/red light can be set to always off.
It’s not possible, but both front and back have a blinking pattern that does not use much battery. Also even with a helmet, when you indicate right (for example) the front left lights up white while you’re indicating. That’s not a problem for battery life but it makes the signal harder for another road user to see. Apparently the Lumos company does not consider that you might want to use the indicators in the daytime or with other lights.
But how do they automatically respond to my brakes?
Not for me.
Great review though. As usual. I appreciated the enunciation.
Thanks for watching!
G’day Bike shop girl, I require your input. I picked these up on a Kickstarter (4 pack with quad charging mat) a long time ago when they first launched but yet to try them out (I’ve had them well over a year now) I had plans to put on my Apollo City Pro scooter but use a Livall (NH51M / NSO) smart Helmet instead that has integrated turn and brake lights built in. My plans for the fireflies were prior to the Livall so my preference now is to use the fireflies on an E Bike (yet to be purchased) Just struggling on which Lumos helmet to compliment the Fireflies, in your opinion which is your preferred Helmet to match? The Ultra E bike or Ultra Pro ? Anything else in the Lumos line up? Most of my riding is in the warmer months of spring / summer. Whatever suggestions you have would really help in my decision
Hey David!
How fast is your scooter/bike?
The ultra e-bike is rated to a higher speed and has the face shield.
You could always use the firefly lights without a helmet :)
Welcome back!
Thanks for this. Been contemplating getting a set since I saw them on Kickstarter. Do I understand correctly though that you always need to turn them all on individually? EG you can't leave them on your bike and then use them as indicators without first turning them all on every time you get on the bike? Thanks.
That is correct. They are battery powered so you need to turn them on/off. You can turn them off all at once since they are connected once awake but turn on individually.
I wonder for charging the light would a apple or Samsung watch chargers work you can generic ones for a few dollars that’s a lot cheaper than that leather case
Apparently the universal Qi (?) charging system can work
I just wish it didnt require an app for most of the features. If they ever stop updating the app, the lights become useless.
Is it possible to have more than just two turn signals (up to 6?) by using the slots 1-4?
Yes! You can double up lights in one spot.
I have 3 turn lights per side on one bike with a trailer. Front, back and back on trailer. I’ll include that in the final review.
@@BikeShopGirl That's the setup I was thinking about 😁 Thank you!
It really is unfortunate when a great product decides to use their own proprietary charging options. Like you've mentioned, it's inconvenient to have to bring along the proprietary charger. It's also a pain to lose the charger and have to spend quite a bit of money to replace it. As for the people who say that it's fine because it makes the lights waterproof, that's a horrible reason. Many USB C ports are water proof with a silicone cover and many are waterproof even without a cover, like your phones. We literally have action cameras that people take into the ocean with them. The decision for a company to make their own proprietary charger is mostly a money driven decision, so don't try and defend them.
Apparently it uses any wireless charger. I don’t have any to try
@@BikeShopGirl oh! That is a bit better at least
Any wireless charger work even your phone
I wouldn't even pay 100 bucks for 4 and the cradle a magic shine works for me and a £20 flood light with dipped and high beam with strip daylight running light. Can't justify it with what's available
I'm having trouble connecting my lights
No thanks not for me$$$
I think you need a headlight and three blinkers, one in back and two for the sides!!!
Auto on and off.
I just really want to know if they are worth using as brakes and turn signals. For that price point, they seem expensive, but a ton of turn signals and brake lights are trash.
Did you watch?
@BikeShopGirl yes, and if you take out the swapping between bikes and people, you never use it as a head light, and you aren't using it with one of their helmets... is it worth it just as a turn signal and brake light.
@@whatwhy1533 I have 8 of them total. 4 live on the cargo bike I ride the most. The other 4 rotate between things :) I think they add a lot to the visibility in darkness but in a busy city they make get lost in the lights and commotion
So there is smart braking feature in any of there product lines? in other words no firefly will change to a bright red steady light upon stopping or braking ?
Some of their helmets but they all require the nicer remote
I think maybe my comment was unclear. I noticed I left out the word ''no'' before the word ''smart'' , so it should have read So there is no smart braking..... You see the whole point of smart braking as I've heard the term used, is that it's automatic, because you can't obviously be actively riding and using a remote simultaneously, certainly not when coming to a unexpected stop.
Aha! Yes it’s smart, the accelerometer is in the remote!
Can you tell me the specific model ? because anything involving the application of a remote in real time braking is crazy, how can you press your remote safely while also actively braking with both hands?
Here ya go - you don't have to push anything.
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