I was a Marine from 1966 to 1971 when the Vietnam war broke out. I was in Paris Island for months, and then got orders to Vietnam. I was in the battle of Quang Tri and I got my left leg blown off. I was spit on, hit, and even shoved when I got home on crutches in May 1971. I will never forget my fellow Marines and will never forget their sacrifices to the United States. Semper Fi
Don Stephens I sincerely apologise of behalf of everyone, although I wasn't even born in 1971, no man should have to go through that kind of treatment. Every person who has the guts to fight for their country deserves nothing but respect
Don Stephens My dad was there in 66-67 Operation Buffalo, Prarie, Deckhouse 5, and many others. He got spit on, called a baby killer. You guys never got a welcome home. Burns my rear end. All the hell y'all went through and still are. Semper Fi from a proud son of a Dead Walker
Stanrico Van Von Johnson, II every branch of the military had draftees sent to them sure most went to the US Army but the Marines did receive some as well. As for the volunteers they were recruited under false pretense
Vietnam vets returned home greeted with hate, protests and spit. This guy is a proud Vet who just wanted to feel the “welcome home “ back. Nobody tried to remove him. Respect.
That's a really common myth. Look into the book "The Spitting Image". In 1972, 92% of Vietnam veterans said they were treated well upon returning home.
Danubian Most of the Marines who volunteered, barely saw any kind of combat and were mostly focused on curbing off boredom. Yet they were still welcomed home as heroes who sacrificed. The Veteran on the other hand was most likely forcibly drafted and saw actual ground combat. The Vietnam war was infamous for its brutality displayed on both sides. And unlike the marines, the vet was never welcomed home due to the protest against the war and was likely spat upon and labeled a baby killer.
JD64E To top that off, he’d be one of the first to thank younger generations for their service, and actually mean it. Whenever an older vet would tell me thank you, I would tell them no, thank you, and remind them that they did far greater things than I ever did and that I would’ve never had the opportunity to serve, had it not been for them.
JS the Canuck I think he's also a cautionary tale for the marines....this war you're hero's, the next war you may not be...and there's always a next war
@@weirdshibainu Another way of looking at it is that the Vietnam vet is a cautionary tale to the “different war”/mental war that service folks can potentially face with PTSD and other mental illness post-war. This scene was way ahead of its time. PTSD was less topical and understood in the early to mid 00’s than it is by today’s standard
After being wounded in Vietnam, 1968, I was in the hospital at Fort Polk for quite a few months. The first leave I got, I was still on crutches, in uniform, passing through an air port in Texas. A woman about my age approached me and asked if I had been hurt in Vietnam and I said yes. She then said "I wish you would have been killed there" before walking away. My how times have changed.
What I really loved about this was that the Desert Storm Marines didn't try to remove him or told him off. They just sat in silence knowing that all the cheering and celebrations outside for them was what the Vietnam Marine deserved but didn't receive.
amazingdany and when you consider the amount of FIRST HAND ACCOUNTS with a lack of evidence on either side it is more than likely they did recieve shaming (when the last time you took a picture when people were holding up signs and protesting something you did)
My dad is a Vietnam Veteran and he told me that when he came home, he was walking through the airport to greet his parents and some scumbag went to go spit on him. He grabbed the guy by the throat and slammed him to the ground. As that happened, a State Police Trooper ran over and arrested the maggot and then my dad told me that as they stood up, the Trooper saluted my dad and welcomed him home. So welcome home to all Vietnam Veterans who never received the honor of being welcomed home as they should have been.
Something similar happened to my uncle; he came home and 2 guys kept calling him a baby killer, he tried to get away but they got up on him or something. He decked them both, they ran whining to a cop and the cop said “oh well”.
The expression on the face of Jamie Fox in this scene at the 47 second mark is priceless. Sometimes the best acting is done without words. These Marines are receiving the heroes welcome that the Vietnam veterans deserved.
nickys34 Bruh you acting like we lost becuz we were an inferior force but the truth is we left cuz of public outcry and shit. They didn’t even lose militarily
nickys34 Yeah pretty much bruh, the US would not have left if it wasn't for the constant hate of the war. The US is too stubborn to give up on a war so I doubt they would have left if they didn't have to deal with the hippies. Also, I do believe (knowing how stubborn the US can be) that they would've stayed even if they had to fight with old shoes.
Why did vietnam Veterans deserve a welcome? They went to war with no good cause, just like every war America has been involved in and committed atrocious war crimes
hezbollah95818 essentially tunnel rats was a job some soldiers would undertake in Vietnam where VC, NVA soldiers would be dug into under ground tunnel complexes and they would have to clear the tunnels of any enemy. it was an extremely dangerous job with close quarters combat.. so the veteran depicted in this scene had to have seen some shit and didn't get the recognition he deserved when he came back from Nam
All war are nasty but WWI, Vietnam were extra harsh conditions. WWI was literally hell on earth. Vietnam was psychologically terrible for US soldiers. Death was potentially hiding behind every bush and tree.
Being a Vet Myself, this hits me hard.. After Coming Back from Iraq.. My Grampa was the only person who understood my pain & helped me find my way back to being part of society.. RIP Uncle Derek
Yea but in the same time no one understands no one will ever get it as well as your battle buddy next to you but you don't have a high chance of seeing them again that was the hardest part
@@ligondesenuts769 Innocent is a very poor choice of words, there's nothing innocent over in Iraq. The people over there make killing & betraying a lifestyle..
@@ligondesenuts769 That goes both ways, you speak of war from a child's perspective, ignorant & naive.. Yet you use the oil that many nations agree to go to war for.. So you can't get off your high horse on whatever PC dribble you get your information from
ray hanes you don't even have the balls to join the military so again stfu you don't know what you're talking about but it's okay your just full of ignorance
I remember us repeating that when we were sent to the Middle East, so we dont get our hopes lay on false traitors backs but our brothers in arms and Death together. Politicians have been abusing the Military far too long for fake wars
@@pendragonU it’s been this way since men first started organizing to battle with sticks and stones. Eventually leaders are appointed then power and greed takes the ropes. Today families are no longer forced to fight in most areas of the world but a “thank you for your service” and words like “freedom” get used to maintain a sentiment of patriotism to keep the cycle going.
My husband came home in 72 , Dec. The people in charge ran them thru an Air force National Guard base t o keep them safe. He has had nightmares for over 40 years. He said nothing to anyone but me. The vet was just begging for someone to give him the vindication, the love that should have come his way forty years before.
Sandra Littleton Its very Sad To Hear That, But Im Really Happy He Came Back. My Uncle Said when He Came Home He Wasnt Expecting A Parade And Stuff like That But He Just Wanted His Country To See That They Got Home Alive Rather Then In A Casket! Was very Heart Breaking To Hear They received The Complete Opposite! He just wanted A "Glad You Made It Home Alive"
I’ll never forget when we came back to the states after serving in Afghanistan, first people to greet us at the airport in Bangor, ME were Vietnam-era vets…giving us the welcome home they never got. We were treated like rockstars and they got shit on…truly heartbreaking.
When I was little my dad and I would go to air shows and he would meet other Vietnam vets there. They would say to each other, " Welcome Home Brother' At first I was only 7-9 when I first heard it. I did not understand why they said that to each other when they were already home. I never had the courage to a ask. It wasnt until 1982, I was 11. I saw the ending to Rambo that I understood they really never had no welcome home parties or parades.
What an incredible scene. The eye contact that he makes with each Marine he comes into contact with; when he finally sits down, the exhaustion of his soul etched into his face, the mental battles that he's STILL fighting; these young boys know that they haven't even come close to seeing what he's seen....brilliant acting.
My big uncle, the oldest of 9 siblings, was a Korean marine of 2nd Brigade "Blue Dragon" during Vietnam war '67~'69. In my memory, my big uncle didn't have his left leg because he lost it during his last minutes of war in '69. I remember myself being 9 year old kiddo asking him "Uncle, why don't you have a leg?" He just simply said "Well son, because I gave it in honour for my country." Also he told me when I was about 14, "I visited US for the first time in my life back in 80's bcs one of fellow combat anglico buddies form US invited me to visit... I guess people didn't like them returning back home alive in his time unlike ours in Korea.." Rest In Peace, Uncle. Republic of Korea Marine Corps 2nd Brig Veteran, Vietnam 67-69. Sgt. Bang, Heenam (1940~2011)
I teared up when I first saw this scene. To his silence as he finally sits down and glances at the return these vets got, to his introduction where he makes sure the Marines know that they did America PROUD. He was telling them exactly what he wished he had heard 20 + years before. You know he's just sitting there imagining this to be the "welcome back" parade that him and his surviving friends NEVER got when they returned home. Instead they came home to a changed America, a country divided and in the middle of a cultural revolution that left them behind. Spat on and vilified as baby killers, when all they wanted to do was answer the call as their fathers before them did in WW2, and as their grandfathers did in WW1. Today's generation will never understand those times. On why a generation of veterans from 'Nam felt pissed off. The left wing condemning them as murdering monsters, the right condemned them as losers that didn't get the job done as their fathers before them did.
This angers me to no end. Those vets went through shit those hippies never could've dreamed of. Yet even after seeing many of their friends die, and developing ptsd, they come home to an ungrateful nation. Its truly a disgrace that everyone should remember in disgust and nothing more...
Khan Astrology maybe you’ll get it if you can understand why US Marines and Japanese soldiers can honor their dead together during the anniversary of the Battle of Iwo Jima or if British and Argentinian veterans of the Falklands war can have dinner with one another years after they tried killing each other. They can understand that the other guy was also doing his duty.
@Khan Astrology Those German and Japanese were pulled along by circumstances far outside their control, just as American Vietnam Veterans were. You think either had any real choice if they didn't volunteer?
@Khan Astrology Far as I know Germany drafted everyone even kids, and they event went as far to hanging them to serve as a warning to those who refuse to take up arms country. Japan is a different case, their troops were brainwashed into thinking that to die for the Emperor is the greatest honor one could ever achieve, which led a lot of people to their own deaths be it willing or not due to their crude strategies such as kamikaze attacks and banzai attacks. Everyone had different circumstances and experiences during WW2 which may haunt them up to this point so its not in our place to judge whether their actions are really right or wrong.
@@REDACTED2004 , I'm a US Navy veteran. I served during desert shield/ storm far and away from the war theatre. I agree that the Vietnam war was far more brutal than the first gulf conflict and thereafter.
*This is one of the saddest scenes in a sad movie. You can tell by the look on this old marine's face: he is utterly traumatized not just by the Vietnam War but also by how he was treated when he got home. He makes damn sure to make the new Marine veterans feel welcome. Gives me goosegumps.*
I saw this movie when I was 14. My Dad took me, and the meaning of this scene flew right over my head. It wasn't until 11 years later, returning home after a deployment to the Persian Gulf, that the significance hit me like a battering ram. That war hero, the unnamed Vietnam Veteran, came home to ungrateful derision from civilians who had no idea that the damage they caused him was more palpable and powerful than any PTSD from the VietCong. God bless all of our Vietnam Veterans.
It was not ingratitude. It was people asking themselves and their government what business they had in a conflict so far away. To what end really? When Nigeria led ECOMOG into Liberia and Sierra Leone to take out the likes of Foday Sankoh, the RUF leader whose murderous force was cutting of limbs and pushing sticks into women's vaginas, we all knew why we went there. That's why today, the Sierra Leoneans have a street and monuments named after Late General Maxwell Kobe, the ECOMOG field commander who led some of the most decisive battles against the RUF rebels. Go to Vietnam and see if a single street was named after any of the American commanders there. At least in 1991, we understood the reasons for Desert Storm and they were very cogent. But not Vietnam. That's why there was a difference in the reception for both sets of vets.
That Vietnam vet being a marine probably felt worried that the Marines on the bus were getting treated the same as he did coming home so he just wanted to help
This scene never fails to make me smile, you can see just how excited the vet is by the look in his eyes when he first gets on the bus. He wanted to make sure that they didn't feel what he felt when he returned home from Vietnam. It's really beautiful. He wanted to give them a warm welcome, the welcome he and his fellow vets were robbed of. Semper fi devil dogs!
My late husband served in VN 67-68. He was a Marine. Died in 2009 from AO exposure. He’s my forever hero. And I believe that he and his brothers with him now finally got the WELCOME HOME they so deserved. Every last VN veteran is a hero. Thank you for your service and Welcome Home. Semper Fi. 🇺🇸👏🥰
I will say this once. I’m not a soldier but. I think it’s hard to be treated like shit when Politicians cause the war, yet veterans are the ones that people are blaming.
A soldier goes where you tell him. In a democracy the people are responsible for the wars, not just the politicians. Fact is, and continues to be, that most people hand off their civic responsibilities to politicians. Hold your politicians’ feet to the fire. Don’t just cast a vote then forget about it.
@@tybaltmarr2158 nah, civillians aren't nearly as guilty as companies who start wars to profit off them, americans are pretty brainwashed all things considered but the internet has helped, blaming the people and attacking the common man opens doors for the powerful to disseminate blame off of themselves. many of those people from the 70s have grown old and died but the system is still in place. i imagine people were also intentionally divided against eachother, pit the civillians against the veterans coming home who literally had no choice but to go to war and they'll never focus on who started it.
VERY POWERFUL SCENE. OUR VIETNAM VETS NEVER GOT THE CREDIT THEY DESERVED. THEY WEREN'T GIVEN A WELCOME HOME PARADE, A LOT WERE SHUNNED BY SOCIETY AND CALLED BABY KILLERS. I SALUTE ALL MY VIETNAM VETS AND VETS OVERALL.
Wow as a war on terror veteran i know what this means, my brother never got the deserve welcome home when came from the Vietnam war, i salute you all my fellow veterans, God bless you all. And thank your for your service.
This was the scene that I remembered the most. I've fought in Afghanistan and Iraq, and my grandfather went to Vietnam 3 times. He didn't get a welcome home, he threw away his dress blues, and never talked much about his experiences. I received a huge welcome back from Afghanistan, and he was so proud, and I could see that in his eyes and how I wish that man would of got the same welcome back.
Im Australian, this brings tears to my eyes, thankyou for your sacrifice and service, God bless the marine corp. I'm glad we are on the same side. Semper fuckin fi!! We Aussies will fight along side you Americans no matter what, we have your back and will always be on the ready to march into war along side you guys, no matter the odds, we will fight and stand by you. Ooorah brothers
This is one of the saddest scenes the Vietnam veteran never got the welcome home he deserved and he didn't and would not let that be the case for future devil dogs. SEMPER Fi MARINES!!!
This was the scene that I remember the most about the movie. All the hardships these marines faced in the movie seem like nothing when you see the eyes of that Vietnam vet walking in that bus. They all stare at him with a near guilt in their faces.
1:13 This is the part of the movie that really made me cry. I immediately thought of my grandfather. Served in one of the only ground units for the USAF during 'Nam. Fought side by side with Marines and watched a lot die. Then how he was treated when he came home. Fuck.
Incredibly powerful scene. The nation treated the great Vietnam vets terrible. They deserved so much more. I honor you all. Thank you for your sacrifices.
Vietnam war is my favorite war, and to the extent it was covered. Every time I've met a Vietnam veteran, I made sure to shake their hand and tell them welcome home. In particular I remember a LRRPs vet I've met and when I told him welcome home and I saw something in his eyes when he told me, "after all these years it means so much to hear that" I can't quite say it, it was like both happiness and sadness at the same time. I had a chance to talk to him a little, and he told me how when he arrived in the states people called him a "murderer" and a "baby killer" he had to ditch his uniform just to not be called names. He was a super nice man too,
I’m watching this on Vietnam War Veterans Day and as a Desert Storm Vet I felt like those Marines. Salute Vietnam Veterans you will never be forgotten.
Man those people who disrespected the Vietnam war vets should see how it’s like to have heavy RPK or M1919 fire on them while artillery shells are being fired like hell.
This is singlehandedly the most emotional part of the movie. If you don't get this, you don't get the movie or the history of the crap the vietnam vets had to go through at home, and abroad.
As a vet of Gulf 1, I say thanks fellas to the Vietnam vets. Unpopular war maybe but y'all toed the line. Had two uncles who went, thanks to God they made it out.
a large bulk of people in vietnam were average joes, imagine being someone who just graduated from high school looking forward to starting a job in whatever career you were looking forward to and weeks later running in a jungle looking for vietcong while people back home see you as a baby killer
Protected his country my ass. What protection did a Vietnamese or Iraq veteran gave to his people by travelling thousands and thousands of miles away and shooting up folks who are innocuous to the US? None.
The vet just wanted acknowledgement, but I think his appearance was a story method as a cautionary tale for the marines on the bus. This war you're heros, the next war may be your vietnam.
for hundreds of thousands of veterans who came home, the war never ended… that why i always made sure to be there for my cousin who saw serious shit in iraq. he just wanted someone to hang with and not feel alone. i still remember the days of him letting me play metal gear solid on his ps1 when we were kids. i will always be proud of him…
I can't help but feel so sorry for this Vietnam Veteran. Even though it's an actor, the acting simply gets to me of how every soldier who made it back from Vietnam was shunned by society at that time. Simply sad.
The fact the Vietnam vet knew all the ranks and asked if he could sit down. .. he saw shit was glad to see Young's come back and realize. " I remember the bus but not my friends coming back with me"
Everyone loves to hate on PMC's/Mercenaries, but who's trying to give these people a place, when the government uses them all up? Instead of being treated like a pawn, PMC's gives them a $200,000 a year income, for what they do. Military barely makes anything, outside of the benefits that disappear, as soon as you go to collect, because your recruiter conned you. Now veteran make up the largest homeless majority, then any other class of people. Mercs have done more for soldier, then their own government.
I guess that's what Big Boss's vision is in MGS, a place where soldiers are no longer a pawn in the hands of the government and are free from any ideologies.
I dont think people get that this scene was a moment of inflection. The vietnam marine symbolized what a lot of those guys future was going to be, stuck in a war for the rest of their lives while the world moves on.
TheAlphaLupus he's not saying a real life persons facial features was copied from a video game because that's impossible. Cod could however have taken this character for inspiration in creating the character woods as it's a video game and he was made on a computer. You've got to admit the resemblance is uncanny.
He puts the courage to every young soldiers, of what he had done in Vietnam war, so this young one's will do the same thing when they get older and became vets, till every war generation
As the proud son of a Canadian USMC Vietnam veteran who served in the 1st Marine Division this scene hit home big time all you lads have nothing but my utmost respect and appreciation for going over there and doing the job . Semper Fi .
In hs, my school had an honor flight program that got a bunch of vets together from different wars each year and basically paraded them around the school before taking them down to DC to see the memorials and museums. My junior year they brought Vietnam vets. All of them were teary eyed and thank us for thanking them and welcoming them home, but one guy held up a framed picture of his buddy that didn’t make it home. First time I ever cried in front of other people.
Wow as a war on terror veteran i know what this means, my brother never got the deserve welcome home when came from the Vietnam war, i salute you all my fellow veterans, God bless you all. And thank your for your service.
This scene strikes hard that’s why every moment I get I always thank The people who came before me for their service especially Vietnam vets !!! Semper Fi
The vietnam vet had a purple heart and bronze star. Can't imagine the hell he must've been through. Infantry troops in Nam were worked till they dropped and then worked even more.
I was a Marine from 1966 to 1971 when the Vietnam war broke out. I was in Paris Island for months, and then got orders to Vietnam. I was in the battle of Quang Tri and I got my left leg blown off. I was spit on, hit, and even shoved when I got home on crutches in May 1971. I will never forget my fellow Marines and will never forget their sacrifices to the United States. Semper Fi
Don Stephens I sincerely apologise of behalf of everyone, although I wasn't even born in 1971, no man should have to go through that kind of treatment. Every person who has the guts to fight for their country deserves nothing but respect
Don Stephens My dad was there in 66-67 Operation Buffalo, Prarie, Deckhouse 5, and many others. He got spit on, called a baby killer. You guys never got a welcome home. Burns my rear end. All the hell y'all went through and still are. Semper Fi from a proud son of a Dead Walker
youre a hero, never forget that
Don Stephens God bless you, sir. Welcome home.
wow that sucks man, thank you for your service.
sad, he saw more combat than the whole bus put together.
and he was probably forcibly conscripted and then spit on once he returned home
The marines were volunteer only
Stanrico Van Von Johnson, II every branch of the military had draftees sent to them sure most went to the US Army but the Marines did receive some as well. As for the volunteers they were recruited under false pretense
Bronze star and Purple Heart
He probably saw more combat in a day than they did in the whole campaign.
Vietnam vets returned home greeted with hate, protests and spit. This guy is a proud Vet who just wanted to feel the “welcome home “ back. Nobody tried to remove him. Respect.
@FreyjaIris once a marine always a marine
That's a really common myth. Look into the book "The Spitting Image". In 1972, 92% of Vietnam veterans said they were treated well upon returning home.
@@indalcecio I’m glad you read a book. Ask a nam vet, if you can find one these days, how he was treated upon returning.
@@ElimGarakSpoonHead like my dad you mean?
They should have done what Muhammad Ali did and go to jail rather then fight in an illegal war. Ali is the real hero.
To sum up, the Marines gave nothing but got something. The Vet gave something but got nothing.
It's a powerful scene that not many people will get sadly
What is the scene trying to say exactly? I don't understand it.
Danubian
Most of the Marines who volunteered, barely saw any kind of combat and were mostly focused on curbing off boredom. Yet they were still welcomed home as heroes who sacrificed. The Veteran on the other hand was most likely forcibly drafted and saw actual ground combat. The Vietnam war was infamous for its brutality displayed on both sides. And unlike the marines, the vet was never welcomed home due to the protest against the war and was likely spat upon and labeled a baby killer.
EagleCola Thanks, it makes sense now.
+EagleCola the Vietnam vet was a drug addicted homeless man.
he never got a welcome home but he still gave a welcome to them, and that's what's so fucking sad
JD64E To top that off, he’d be one of the first to thank younger generations for their service, and actually mean it. Whenever an older vet would tell me thank you, I would tell them no, thank you, and remind them that they did far greater things than I ever did and that I would’ve never had the opportunity to serve, had it not been for them.
JS the Canuck They never got a Welcome home because they lost the war,and you know,history is written by the victors.
JS the Canuck I think he's also a cautionary tale for the marines....this war you're hero's, the next war you may not be...and there's always a next war
@@ernestov1777 no body one that war ask American vets and Vietnamese vets
@@weirdshibainu Another way of looking at it is that the Vietnam vet is a cautionary tale to the “different war”/mental war that service folks can potentially face with PTSD and other mental illness post-war. This scene was way ahead of its time. PTSD was less topical and understood in the early to mid 00’s than it is by today’s standard
After being wounded in Vietnam, 1968, I was in the hospital at Fort Polk for quite a few months. The first leave I got, I was still on crutches, in uniform, passing through an air port in Texas. A woman about my age approached me and asked if I had been hurt in Vietnam and I said yes. She then said "I wish you would have been killed there" before walking away. My how times have changed.
Arky Bald Knobber That's fucking disgusting.
Thank you for your service sir.
Arky Bald Knobber as a young american i thank you for your service
I know this is 50 years late but, welcome back brother.
J P Fuck you. Is it too much for a human being to ask to be let back into a society that abandoned them for something that wasn’t their choice?
What I really loved about this was that the Desert Storm Marines didn't try to remove him or told him off. They just sat in silence knowing that all the cheering and celebrations outside for them was what the Vietnam Marine deserved but didn't receive.
Juniors paying respects to the seniors. A military honor indeed.
No we didn't kick him off the bus ,he one of us and he wasn't spitting on us
he comes in sooo tough but he falls silent because he knows the vietnam veterans where spit out in his days
Perfectly said..
He didn’t deserve celebration. He deserved pity at best and contempt at worst.
I feel like the significance of this scene flew over most people's heads
Sean Frashier it really did, many people forget that vietnam vets were treated like garbage when they returned home.
"Baby killers"
Sean Frashier yeah it did. They don't know the history. And it's our job to make sure it never happens again.
What that the vietnam vet gave everything and got nothing, and these returning soldiers gave nothing and got everything ?
Read the poem Tommy by Rudyard Kipling, it sums up the attitude of the two faced, self serving civilian.
:( poor guy most likely never got that welcome and he just wanted a little bit of that praise.
He probably got spit on at the airport and had his taxi that took him home thrown eggs at by piece of shit liberal hippies
+Kyle Renner go to hell, safe space, everything offends me liberal shit bitch
*The spit is total bullshit, never happened.*
www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/03/nobody-spat-on-american-gis/
amazingdany a lack of evidence does not evidence to the contrary make
amazingdany and when you consider the amount of FIRST HAND ACCOUNTS with a lack of evidence on either side it is more than likely they did recieve shaming (when the last time you took a picture when people were holding up signs and protesting something you did)
My dad is a Vietnam Veteran and he told me that when he came home, he was walking through the airport to greet his parents and some scumbag went to go spit on him. He grabbed the guy by the throat and slammed him to the ground. As that happened, a State Police Trooper ran over and arrested the maggot and then my dad told me that as they stood up, the Trooper saluted my dad and welcomed him home. So welcome home to all Vietnam Veterans who never received the honor of being welcomed home as they should have been.
Badass. Glad this story ended in his favor.
Something similar happened to my uncle; he came home and 2 guys kept calling him a baby killer, he tried to get away but they got up on him or something. He decked them both, they ran whining to a cop and the cop said “oh well”.
Spitting on the men forced to take up their country’s call is so pathetic.
The expression on the face of Jamie Fox in this scene at the 47 second mark is priceless. Sometimes the best acting is done without words. These Marines are receiving the heroes welcome that the Vietnam veterans deserved.
nickys34 but they still got psychologically fucked and lost friends too and they got spit on for it
nickys34 Bruh you acting like we lost becuz we were an inferior force but the truth is we left cuz of public outcry and shit. They didn’t even lose militarily
nickys34 Yeah pretty much bruh, the US would not have left if it wasn't for the constant hate of the war. The US is too stubborn to give up on a war so I doubt they would have left if they didn't have to deal with the hippies. Also, I do believe (knowing how stubborn the US can be) that they would've stayed even if they had to fight with old shoes.
Why did vietnam Veterans deserve a welcome? They went to war with no good cause, just like every war America has been involved in and committed atrocious war crimes
nickys34 wow your words are cancer. I hope you get the help you need.
That tunnel rat patch.
tunnel rat patch, huh what?
+hezbollah95818 those who don't understand, don't matter
hezbollah95818 essentially tunnel rats was a job some soldiers would undertake in Vietnam where VC, NVA soldiers would be dug into under ground tunnel complexes and they would have to clear the tunnels of any enemy. it was an extremely dangerous job with close quarters combat.. so the veteran depicted in this scene had to have seen some shit and didn't get the recognition he deserved when he came back from Nam
they did go in tho and only people under 1.7m
woah calm down there mr elite
This hits home hard. That's my dad. That war just tore him up inside. The thousand stare is real, I see it every day I see him.
yo that is sad man
Get him around other veterans. Or active duty. It helps vets a lot.
Any Vietnam vet I ever see I give them a big ol fucking thank you!!!
I couldn't imagine the shit they had to deal with.
Thank you for his service, I mean it.
All war are nasty but WWI, Vietnam were extra harsh conditions. WWI was literally hell on earth. Vietnam was psychologically terrible for US soldiers. Death was potentially hiding behind every bush and tree.
Being a Vet Myself, this hits me hard.. After Coming Back from Iraq.. My Grampa was the only person who understood my pain & helped me find my way back to being part of society.. RIP Uncle Derek
Yea but in the same time no one understands no one will ever get it as well as your battle buddy next to you but you don't have a high chance of seeing them again that was the hardest part
How many innocent people did your platoon killed
@@ligondesenuts769 Innocent is a very poor choice of words, there's nothing innocent over in Iraq. The people over there make killing & betraying a lifestyle..
@@ninjyangproductions7696
Thats rich coming from a country who starts proxy wars overseas
@@ligondesenuts769 That goes both ways, you speak of war from a child's perspective, ignorant & naive.. Yet you use the oil that many nations agree to go to war for.. So you can't get off your high horse on whatever PC dribble you get your information from
This scene was like a punch to my stomach...give that man a hug
1:14 That PTSD hit him hard
We owe a huge debt to our Vietnam vets
ray hanes try going through what they did shut your mouth
Caesar The Ape
Nah no thank you. My life is precious and I'd never give it to the 1% over a bullshit war. You go do it.
ray hanes you don't even have the balls to join the military so again stfu you don't know what you're talking about but it's okay your just full of ignorance
ray hanes no you don't have the balls and there's more to the military than just money but I'm done arguing have a nice day
ray hanes 😂😂😂 okay 5 year old go back to school
That Marine went out his way to make sure they got what he never got. It's a fucking shame the way our Vietnam vets were treated.
we the unwilling
led by the unqualified
to kill the unfortunate
die for the ungrateful
heartbreaking
And all for what, don’t tell me freedom.
I remember us repeating that when we were sent to the Middle East, so we dont get our hopes lay on false traitors backs but our brothers in arms and Death together. Politicians have been abusing the Military far too long for fake wars
@@pendragonU it’s been this way since men first started organizing to battle with sticks and stones. Eventually leaders are appointed then power and greed takes the ropes. Today families are no longer forced to fight in most areas of the world but a “thank you for your service” and words like “freedom” get used to maintain a sentiment of patriotism to keep the cycle going.
Ur very stupid!
My husband came home in 72 , Dec. The people in charge ran them thru an Air force National Guard base t o keep them safe. He has had nightmares for over 40 years. He said nothing to anyone but me. The vet was just begging for someone to give him the vindication, the love that should have come his way forty years before.
+Sandra Littleton
I just want to let you know your husband is a hero and he has my full respect no matter what he saw or did in Vietnam.
Sandra Littleton
Its very Sad To Hear That,
But Im Really Happy He Came Back.
My Uncle Said when He Came Home He Wasnt Expecting A Parade And Stuff like That But He Just Wanted His Country To See That They Got Home Alive Rather Then In A Casket!
Was very Heart Breaking To Hear They received The Complete Opposite!
He just wanted A "Glad You Made It Home Alive"
We came home from Iraq I had my 9 mill loaded waiting for someone to protest me would have been their last
I hope your husband is okay now
IMxYOURxDADDY get out of here with that shit pussy. Fact is, you don't know if he himself killed babies.
I’ll never forget when we came back to the states after serving in Afghanistan, first people to greet us at the airport in Bangor, ME were Vietnam-era vets…giving us the welcome home they never got. We were treated like rockstars and they got shit on…truly heartbreaking.
When I was little my dad and I would go to air shows and he would meet other Vietnam vets there. They would say to each other, " Welcome Home Brother' At first I was only 7-9 when I first heard it. I did not understand why they said that to each other when they were already home. I never had the courage to a ask. It wasnt until 1982, I was 11. I saw the ending to Rambo that I understood they really never had no welcome home parties or parades.
RudeRaptor thats sad
Wow.. your pfp brings me back..
What an incredible scene. The eye contact that he makes with each Marine he comes into contact with; when he finally sits down, the exhaustion of his soul etched into his face, the mental battles that he's STILL fighting; these young boys know that they haven't even come close to seeing what he's seen....brilliant acting.
The young Marines see the Veteran experience that they will start experiencing soon.
It's Sgt. Frank Woods after Vietnam
Yeah... but Alternate when Menendez didn't exist.
who???
@@HacksignKT menendez mortal enemy frank woods on call of duty black ops 2 :)
@@malangdatupalo4648 I had to look that up, crazy stuff...
@@HacksignKT hahaha
My big uncle, the oldest of 9 siblings, was a Korean marine of 2nd Brigade "Blue Dragon" during Vietnam war '67~'69.
In my memory, my big uncle didn't have his left leg because he lost it during his last minutes of war in '69.
I remember myself being 9 year old kiddo asking him "Uncle, why don't you have a leg?"
He just simply said "Well son, because I gave it in honour for my country."
Also he told me when I was about 14,
"I visited US for the first time in my life back in 80's bcs one of fellow combat anglico buddies form US invited me to visit... I guess people didn't like them returning back home alive in his time unlike ours in Korea.."
Rest In Peace, Uncle.
Republic of Korea Marine Corps
2nd Brig
Veteran, Vietnam 67-69.
Sgt. Bang, Heenam
(1940~2011)
Your uncle is a real G
I teared up when I first saw this scene. To his silence as he finally sits down and glances at the return these vets got, to his introduction where he makes sure the Marines know that they did America PROUD. He was telling them exactly what he wished he had heard 20 + years before.
You know he's just sitting there imagining this to be the "welcome back" parade that him and his surviving friends NEVER got when they returned home. Instead they came home to a changed America, a country divided and in the middle of a cultural revolution that left them behind. Spat on and vilified as baby killers, when all they wanted to do was answer the call as their fathers before them did in WW2, and as their grandfathers did in WW1.
Today's generation will never understand those times. On why a generation of veterans from 'Nam felt pissed off. The left wing condemning them as murdering monsters, the right condemned them as losers that didn't get the job done as their fathers before them did.
This angers me to no end. Those vets went through shit those hippies never could've dreamed of. Yet even after seeing many of their friends die, and developing ptsd, they come home to an ungrateful nation. Its truly a disgrace that everyone should remember in disgust and nothing more...
Khan Astrology maybe you’ll get it if you can understand why US Marines and Japanese soldiers can honor their dead together during the anniversary of the Battle of Iwo Jima or if British and Argentinian veterans of the Falklands war can have dinner with one another years after they tried killing each other. They can understand that the other guy was also doing his duty.
@@cyal8eravi8or57 now at least we recognize it's the government's daily and not our troops alone.
@Khan Astrology Those German and Japanese were pulled along by circumstances far outside their control, just as American Vietnam Veterans were. You think either had any real choice if they didn't volunteer?
@Khan Astrology Far as I know Germany drafted everyone even kids, and they event went as far to hanging them to serve as a warning to those who refuse to take up arms country. Japan is a different case, their troops were brainwashed into thinking that to die for the Emperor is the greatest honor one could ever achieve, which led a lot of people to their own deaths be it willing or not due to their crude strategies such as kamikaze attacks and banzai attacks. Everyone had different circumstances and experiences during WW2 which may haunt them up to this point so its not in our place to judge whether their actions are really right or wrong.
I’m not American, and never been through war in my life, but this scene make me feel really sad.
@@REDACTED2004 ,
I'm a US Navy veteran. I served during desert shield/ storm far and away from the war theatre.
I agree that the Vietnam war was far more brutal than the first gulf conflict and thereafter.
*This is one of the saddest scenes in a sad movie. You can tell by the look on this old marine's face: he is utterly traumatized not just by the Vietnam War but also by how he was treated when he got home. He makes damn sure to make the new Marine veterans feel welcome. Gives me goosegumps.*
I saw this movie when I was 14. My Dad took me, and the meaning of this scene flew right over my head. It wasn't until 11 years later, returning home after a deployment to the Persian Gulf, that the significance hit me like a battering ram. That war hero, the unnamed Vietnam Veteran, came home to ungrateful derision from civilians who had no idea that the damage they caused him was more palpable and powerful than any PTSD from the VietCong. God bless all of our Vietnam Veterans.
It was not ingratitude. It was people asking themselves and their government what business they had in a conflict so far away. To what end really? When Nigeria led ECOMOG into Liberia and Sierra Leone to take out the likes of Foday Sankoh, the RUF leader whose murderous force was cutting of limbs and pushing sticks into women's vaginas, we all knew why we went there. That's why today, the Sierra Leoneans have a street and monuments named after Late General Maxwell Kobe, the ECOMOG field commander who led some of the most decisive battles against the RUF rebels. Go to Vietnam and see if a single street was named after any of the American commanders there. At least in 1991, we understood the reasons for Desert Storm and they were very cogent. But not Vietnam. That's why there was a difference in the reception for both sets of vets.
Saddest seen in this whole movie, bad memories in Vietnam
George Patton 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@ well too bad women are allowed in the army now days..
He saw more combat than the entire regiment returning home from Iraq.
That Vietnam vet being a marine probably felt worried that the Marines on the bus were getting treated the same as he did coming home so he just wanted to help
I think it was more that he wanted to be a part of the moment of actually being welcomed home; he didn't get that when he came home.
They should make a Jarhead prequel film for this guy.
Watch full metal jacket
Ever seen FMJ, Deer Hunter, or Forrest Gump?
@@bderrick4944 forrest gump isn’t really a war film though
@@bderrick4944 i mean.. a quarter of it is about Forrest and Bubba in Vietnam so i guess
@@bderrick4944 I was just gonna say, the prequel to this would 100% be The Deer Hunter and that guy would be Michael
This scene never fails to make me smile, you can see just how excited the vet is by the look in his eyes when he first gets on the bus. He wanted to make sure that they didn't feel what he felt when he returned home from Vietnam. It's really beautiful. He wanted to give them a warm welcome, the welcome he and his fellow vets were robbed of. Semper fi devil dogs!
The sadness in the Vietnam Vet afterwards they were treated horribly after they came back
My late husband served in VN 67-68. He was a Marine. Died in 2009 from AO exposure. He’s my forever hero. And I believe that he and his brothers with him now finally got the WELCOME HOME they so deserved. Every last VN veteran is a hero. Thank you for your service and Welcome Home. Semper Fi. 🇺🇸👏🥰
I will say this once.
I’m not a soldier but. I think it’s hard to be treated like shit when Politicians cause the war, yet veterans are the ones that people are blaming.
A soldier goes where you tell him. In a democracy the people are responsible for the wars, not just the politicians. Fact is, and continues to be, that most people hand off their civic responsibilities to politicians. Hold your politicians’ feet to the fire. Don’t just cast a vote then forget about it.
So what about the soldiers that sign up for war? Its their fault getting manipulated by politicians
@@tybaltmarr2158 nah, civillians aren't nearly as guilty as companies who start wars to profit off them, americans are pretty brainwashed all things considered but the internet has helped, blaming the people and attacking the common man opens doors for the powerful to disseminate blame off of themselves. many of those people from the 70s have grown old and died but the system is still in place. i imagine people were also intentionally divided against eachother, pit the civillians against the veterans coming home who literally had no choice but to go to war and they'll never focus on who started it.
VERY POWERFUL SCENE. OUR VIETNAM VETS NEVER GOT THE CREDIT THEY DESERVED. THEY WEREN'T GIVEN A WELCOME HOME PARADE, A LOT WERE SHUNNED BY SOCIETY AND CALLED BABY KILLERS. I SALUTE ALL MY VIETNAM VETS AND VETS OVERALL.
Wow as a war on terror veteran i know what this means, my brother never got the deserve welcome home when came from the Vietnam war, i salute you all my fellow veterans, God bless you all. And thank your for your service.
❤❤❤❤
The message in this scene is bigger than the whole plot of this film.
The whole film probably lead up to this moment if you think and research about it
@@danwhowatches707 yes, absolutely.
This was the scene that I remembered the most. I've fought in Afghanistan and Iraq, and my grandfather went to Vietnam 3 times. He didn't get a welcome home, he threw away his dress blues, and never talked much about his experiences. I received a huge welcome back from Afghanistan, and he was so proud, and I could see that in his eyes and how I wish that man would of got the same welcome back.
Most don’t know how shitty Vietnam vets were treated
Im Australian, this brings tears to my eyes, thankyou for your sacrifice and service, God bless the marine corp. I'm glad we are on the same side. Semper fuckin fi!! We Aussies will fight along side you Americans no matter what, we have your back and will always be on the ready to march into war along side you guys, no matter the odds, we will fight and stand by you. Ooorah brothers
Respect from south korea to US military and all of military vets thank u for saving my country in korean war god bless
Your country wasn't saved. Half of it is still doomed. Korea is one and always shall be.
My grandpa served in Korea during the war, much love from America to our South Korean brothers!
@@enricmm85 Shill
This is one of the saddest scenes the Vietnam veteran never got the welcome home he deserved and he didn't and would not let that be the case for future devil dogs. SEMPER Fi MARINES!!!
They were treated that way because people saw their war crimes
This was the scene that I remember the most about the movie. All the hardships these marines faced in the movie seem like nothing when you see the eyes of that Vietnam vet walking in that bus. They all stare at him with a near guilt in their faces.
When you’re a veteran who’s never been in a war and you meet a guy who’s seen some real shit
The way he holds the Ssgt's gaze says so much, like "No really, Welcome Home."
One of the best scenes of all time.
This is one of the underrated scenes in the movie
It's sad. Because when our boys came back from Vietnam. everyone hated our troops rather than thanking them
they called them baby killers when most of the NVA were adults.
Thanking them for going to an illegal war and destroying an Asian country? People didnt protest against Vietnam for nothing
@@REDACTED2004 they’re talking about vietnamese civillians
1:13 This is the part of the movie that really made me cry. I immediately thought of my grandfather. Served in one of the only ground units for the USAF during 'Nam. Fought side by side with Marines and watched a lot die. Then how he was treated when he came home. Fuck.
Incredibly powerful scene. The nation treated the great Vietnam vets terrible. They deserved so much more. I honor you all. Thank you for your sacrifices.
Vietnam war is my favorite war, and to the extent it was covered. Every time I've met a Vietnam veteran, I made sure to shake their hand and tell them welcome home. In particular I remember a LRRPs vet I've met and when I told him welcome home and I saw something in his eyes when he told me, "after all these years it means so much to hear that" I can't quite say it, it was like both happiness and sadness at the same time. I had a chance to talk to him a little, and he told me how when he arrived in the states people called him a "murderer" and a "baby killer" he had to ditch his uniform just to not be called names. He was a super nice man too,
favorite war.. man that is not a football
@@user-gw1gl4by8d Do i have to cry because it was a war???
I’m watching this on Vietnam War Veterans Day and as a Desert Storm Vet I felt like those Marines. Salute Vietnam Veterans you will never be forgotten.
Man those people who disrespected the Vietnam war vets should see how it’s like to have heavy RPK or M1919 fire on them while artillery shells are being fired like hell.
This is singlehandedly the most emotional part of the movie. If you don't get this, you don't get the movie or the history of the crap the vietnam vets had to go through at home, and abroad.
As a vet of Gulf 1, I say thanks fellas to the Vietnam vets. Unpopular war maybe but y'all toed the line. Had two uncles who went, thanks to God they made it out.
Every war maybe the same but every soldier who enlist to protect his country is all hero.
a large bulk of people in vietnam were average joes, imagine being someone who just graduated from high school looking forward to starting a job in whatever career you were looking forward to and weeks later running in a jungle looking for vietcong while people back home see you as a baby killer
Protected his country my ass. What protection did a Vietnamese or Iraq veteran gave to his people by travelling thousands and thousands of miles away and shooting up folks who are innocuous to the US? None.
War, war never changes
*It's mankind's worst invention with an unfortunate lifetime self-renewed patent!*
amazingdany Top Edge.
Old school
The vet just wanted acknowledgement, but I think his appearance was a story method as a cautionary tale for the marines on the bus. This war you're heros, the next war may be your vietnam.
The next war is between your ears.
A scary ass reminder of how war ages you like crazy
for hundreds of thousands of veterans who came home, the war never ended… that why i always made sure to be there for my cousin who saw serious shit in iraq. he just wanted someone to hang with and not feel alone. i still remember the days of him letting me play metal gear solid on his ps1 when we were kids. i will always be proud of him…
that veteran experience more horror and hell. salute to him
As an Afghan vet, this scene hits home a different way.
Very powerful scene… I Love my Vietnam vets. Never got the props they deserved..
My grandpa was a door gunner on a Huey. He didn’t have a good welcome back and he will not speak about what he did over there
Best scene. The nam vet acted terrific
I can't help but feel so sorry for this Vietnam Veteran. Even though it's an actor, the acting simply gets to me of how every soldier who made it back from Vietnam was shunned by society at that time. Simply sad.
This scene always makes me cry
The fact the Vietnam vet knew all the ranks and asked if he could sit down. .. he saw shit was glad to see Young's come back and realize. " I remember the bus but not my friends coming back with me"
They got 1000 times casualties but 1/1000 respect.
The way he sits in the bus.. to get the feeling he didnt get
Everyone loves to hate on PMC's/Mercenaries, but who's trying to give these people a place, when the government uses them all up? Instead of being treated like a pawn, PMC's gives them a $200,000 a year income, for what they do. Military barely makes anything, outside of the benefits that disappear, as soon as you go to collect, because your recruiter conned you. Now veteran make up the largest homeless majority, then any other class of people. Mercs have done more for soldier, then their own government.
Tank Hunter Yourr prob a kid in his moms basement.
you know mostly PMC doing illegal activities compared to the armed forces right ?
I guess that's what Big Boss's vision is in MGS, a place where soldiers are no longer a pawn in the hands of the government and are free from any ideologies.
The old vet had a RAIDER logo patch on. Much respect to this man!!!
It's a movie
Is that what it was lol
Every war is different. Every war is the same.
War. War Never Changes.
@@Reaper_Kit Die hard Fallout fan in me just just shed a tear........
I dont think people get that this scene was a moment of inflection. The vietnam marine symbolized what a lot of those guys future was going to be, stuck in a war for the rest of their lives while the world moves on.
Yep
Yes, I realize this is very emotional and I see the meaning of this but... Woods?
thelegend27 cod??
TheAlphaLupus he's not saying a real life persons facial features was copied from a video game because that's impossible. Cod could however have taken this character for inspiration in creating the character woods as it's a video game and he was made on a computer. You've got to admit the resemblance is uncanny.
TheAlphaLupus
No COD came before Jarhead. I know because I saw this film in theaters and played the game.
ray hanes he means black ops 1 not cod all together
ray hanes you sound like a 10 year old
This scene is so damn touching! 😢 Welcome Home! 🇺🇸
What a great visual scene. The long drawn eye contact with a staff sergeant. The thirst to belly up to his equal. Beautiful scene.
That guy was weary and tired...used up.
ray hanes used up? What an ignorant thing to say.
ray hanes those stupid politics use him
@@Hooby. it wasn’t meant as an insult
This is a very powerful scene. War bring nothing than sorrow and trauma.
He puts the courage to every young soldiers,
of what he had done in Vietnam war,
so this young one's will do the same thing when they get older and became vets,
till every war generation
Welcome home Vietnam veterans and thank you for answering the call and your sacrifice I only wish I could have been there to say it in person .
This never made sense to me but I just figured it out, he feels like he's in the Marines again sitting on the bus with his brothers.
Still the most powerful scene in any military movie
As the proud son of a Canadian USMC Vietnam veteran who served in the 1st Marine Division this scene hit home big time all you lads have nothing but my utmost respect and appreciation for going over there and doing the job . Semper Fi .
In hs, my school had an honor flight program that got a bunch of vets together from different wars each year and basically paraded them around the school before taking them down to DC to see the memorials and museums. My junior year they brought Vietnam vets. All of them were teary eyed and thank us for thanking them and welcoming them home, but one guy held up a framed picture of his buddy that didn’t make it home. First time I ever cried in front of other people.
vietnam vets didnt feel welcomed when they came back home
I feel bad for that man
Wow as a war on terror veteran i know what this means, my brother never got the deserve welcome home when came from the Vietnam war, i salute you all my fellow veterans, God bless you all. And thank your for your service.
This made me tear up.
Happy hunting Frank...
but i watched you kill people on netflix and this made you emotional?
Got on there to make sure they got the heroes welcome. Good man
This scene breaks my heart every time. A lot of people don't understand the reference. Welcome home to all our Vietnam veterans
This scene strikes hard that’s why every moment I get I always thank The people who came before me for their service especially Vietnam vets !!! Semper Fi
Politics aside the USMC had more casualties in the Vietnam War than they had in WW2, that's the reflection of the intensity of combat they faced.
ChemicalFX plus the population of the world increased for most nations including the US. “More people means more potential soldiers and marines
Bruh all of them went quiet when he entered
This was about the only scene I remember from this movie. So powerful
That guy NEVER came home did he bless him...
The vietnam vet had a purple heart and bronze star. Can't imagine the hell he must've been through. Infantry troops in Nam were worked till they dropped and then worked even more.
I love the power of this scene.
Semper Fi
Damn that sad piano refrain. Tears me up every time.