The Internet is Fed Up With JoJo Siwa
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2023
- you all know jojo siwa. well now she's pregnant and she's singing a lot and she's on snapchat doing a bunch of crazy nonsense
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faking a pregnancy on a private Snapchat story because you’re bloated and have a “food baby” is def the type of thing a 14-15 year old girl would post on her priv snap story as a joke to her friends. I think jojo has that mindset. Heard the phrase once “some people get stuck at the age they got famous” and I think jojo is an example of that and how getting famous and attention as a child def influences your personality and judgement.
Yeah. She first grew up in public eye in quite abusive environment of dance moms and then as a kid on the internet with her own channel already being super hated. I genuinely feel quite bad for her. People are way too harsh
that’s a bojack horseman quote isn’t it
I think if you start working a job at such a young age, you have neglected your responsibility to learn (about yourself, your situation, your family, your culture) in lieu of performing a role under capitalism. because she is in this circumstance she cannot spend her time learning whats right, learning what she should do- and you see naive ideas taken too far. but thats literally her identity. we need to collectively denounce this media practice, its obscene. its pure trauma, its terrible. its just not worth it, I swear
@@meli9976 HAHA actually it was Taylor swift
@@_e8a ?? i think you’re making a valid point, but the way you phrased it puts all the blame on her for growing up in the public eye even though she was literally a child and didn’t have the foresight or maturity to see how it would affect her
I think this is yet another case of the Internet thinking that being cringey is the biggest criminal offense. She's cringey, stop watching lol.
dont you have to actively go into someones sc stories to see them? just, dont do that lol.
I agree. Apart from the pregnancy thing, she’s done nothing wrong and people are just hating on her for free
lmao when people comment "cringe" on like insta reels its like scroll past it it's not that big a deal 😂
True. That’s what I did- just didn’t watch her videos
@@Bala_Niranna kind of yeah. I was looking through snap and she popped up right under the people I subscribed to watch, I didn't actively look for her but the cover pic for her stories was her "pregnant" belly
i don't think faking a pregnancy is a huge deal, if she would've faked infertility issues or a miscarriage THAT would be wildly insensitive
That’s the thing- faking a pregnancy is poking fun at infertility issues. There are people who can’t even get pregnant no matter how hard they try.
@@certifiedsoft9206 if that's true then how is someone actually getting pregnant not also poking fun at ppl with fertility issues like....
@@certifiedsoft9206 WHAT!? lol. That is absurd.
It’s insensitive because pregnancy isn’t a joke in any capacity. That’s why we don’t like it
@@jaime6633 lol wut? pregnancy is funny actually.
gives me same vibes as my mom telling me it’s offensive to get a hysterectomy bc some women can’t get pregnant
Yeah, you should be a incubator service for a good decade beforehand, how selfish of you! /s
@@nyxx7813you oughta win a medal for those mental gymnastics! all she said was she got the surgery. absolutely no one said anything about being rude towards other women who choose to become mothers but you.
@@nyxx7813 what in the world
@@nyxx7813incel behavior
@@nyxx7813 ok 4channer
If you are old enough to be planning a pregnancy and having fertility issues, what are you doing watching Jojo Siwa???????
Honestly the best take^
thank you
Idk why I didn’t think of that 😂
@@dd4850 Forgive me but this feels like SUCH a reach.
Legit people get offended over everything they shouldn’t 💀
faking a pregnancy is not insensitive it's just lame as hell
It’s actually both insensitive and lame as hell 😂
@@vanillakilla64 it’s not insensitive 🙂
@@person80 idk I feel like some people could find it insensitive, the same way someone could make a dark joke and someone would find it insensitive.
It's insensitive to those who have fertility issues and are trying to have a baby :/
I feel like everything can be seen as insensitive these days. Rlly faking a pregnancy is pretty harmless if it’s not done with the aim to hurt ppl, so I don’t see what the issue is. Seems like everyone has to walk on eggshells these days
As someone in musical theatre, yes singing stamina is absolutely a thing. Singing while jogging, going up and down stairs, stuff like that is a great way to mimic dancing and singing for a full show 👍
Just commenting to boost this comment ^^^
Yesssss I know of kpop idols who sing while jogginh for this exact reason, thanks for sharing!
Yesss this!
I used to do this for chorus, but I was focused more on hitting the notes, singing in different registers to strengthen them, and work on songs I would preform. Maybe it’s me, correct me if it’s me being nit picky, but I think jojo is just working on belting notes, and projecting to the audience..
But are you suposed to sing well while doing this? Because like... if she's gonna sing while dancing, we all know how that would sound 💀
Being offended over someone faking a pregnancy has the vibe of being offended that someone made you jealous. There's nothing offensive about it. This isn't your best friend or sister pretending to be pregnant to your face with the understanding that you, specifically cannot get pregnant. It's a total random on the internet and I really do think those that find it that offensive need some deeper therapy on the matter.
Agreed
Here is the correct take:
You, I, or anyone else don't get to decide what offends people. So let's not try to hand wave/dismiss some people's legitimate reactions by calling it "jealousy."
Was it offensive? Idk. Cringey? Weird? Gross? Tad insensitive? Sure. But it isn't a death sentence to do any of those things, either.
So don't watch if it's something that's going to make you mad. Avoid "tea" channels that just do drama. Because it isn't insane that someone would find it in bad taste. And it isn't insane that every little scoop on TikTok will be converted to drama content. Just bottom of the barrel stuff.
The internet, specifically the TikTok users need to take a break from the internet and stop white knighting into crusading on every. Single. Dumb. Little. Thing.
Just about every one of these kind of videos is literally about everyone involved being terrible. Including the audiences. Especially the audiences, in most cases.They always seem to be the worst party involved 9/10 times. Because they can't just consume content without making it apart of their identity or social struggle.
It's what's called a nuanced opinion. I'm assuming most people in here haven't hit their 20s, themselves, so here's some advice. Not every situation is black and white. It's usually somewhere in the grey.
Typed all that just to say nothing, shame. Please obtain more brain cells
I think the problem is that she was pushed into behaving in a way to appeal a younger audience for a long time… even in her teenage and adult years. She didn’t have the normal coming of age phases. It must be very conflicting to find out who you want to be as an adult when you’ve always pretended to be a kid. And when that pretending led to making millions of dollars.
I think she’s confused and trying to act older, but maintains the rooted childlike behavior that was taught to her for years, resulting in cringe.
Is that what you got from her faking a pregnancy? 😂😂😂
@@who__cares__pretty sure they’re just talking about her as a person, currently
I mean I wouldn't be surprised. There's a lot of information known these days about what stardom and being in the spotlight at a young age will do to a person. I can understand how, at the least, that could be affecting her and her choices. Not that it's any excuse, but it's understandable.
This is pretty tame. It wasn't a good thing to try to pull off, but hopefully this is the worst it gets and she finds her footing without going down the rabbit hole we've seen other stars like her fall into.
Sounds pretty legit
very nuanced and actually interesting take, thank you /g
as someone who is infertile i genuinely cant find the problem with faking a pregnancy (besides it just being cringy) 😭 like can someone explain how faking a pregnancy is less triggering than just announcing youre pregnant. it would be insensitive if she was faking infertility, i get that. but pregnancy?
Right, I'm probably not going to be able to carry my own child due to epilepsy and my history with lyme and coinfections. My sister is pregnant and that was triggering but this is just cringey. My mind just goes back to a podcast that I saw her on where she said her mental maturity was in the late 20s and yet shes doing this. I know she has her character shes made with her name but I dont think anyone forced her to do this.
WHAT I AM OFFENDED BY.. did you see how she just threw those dumbbells!? wtf
I get that
@Rachel C what's with teens/young adults in the industry claiming to be so many years more matured than their age? If anything, it seems like the industry stunts your maturity, evident by the amount of crazy shit these child stars get into.
I feel as though if I were told that I couldn’t get pregnant ever again, I would be heartbroken. Seeing someone throw around the claim of pregnancy and play into the excitement and connection that pregnancy brings is hurtful to people who can never have that. She sees it as a silly joke, something for views, but to others it’s a wish that will never be granted. I think they think that she should respect the importance of pregnancy and how it impacts people’s lives as well as how big of a thing it is for some people. I don’t necessarily agree but that might be where people are coming from.
it is wild to me that people are lowkey bullying her because shes weird which is likely a result of the fact she was exploited for so long for our entertainment. There are so many genuinely awful famous people. I am cutting her a break. This is the most balanced take on her and I appreciate you for that. Being bullied by a middle aged woman for entertainment to then continue being bullied by not only middle aged women but also her peers is so sad.
I feel so terrible for her because she’s been so stunted. Honestly I hope she’s having a good time doing what she’s doing, wish she wasn’t still compelled to post everything. The adults who were around her as a child should be ashamed.
people are wayyy too harsh on young women that are in the public eye. yeah she's a bit cringe, but she's just a twenty year old tryna navigate life with thousands of eyes on her
youd think that free britney moment would have shifted some perspectives but like, whats the difference
Honestly, I almost think they're just like that to internet stars in general, being labeled as "cringe" by the masses is pretty much a death sentence in terms of social media! Like, remember Jellybean?
She reminds me a lot of me when I was 20 tbh. But, you know, privileged and out of touch. To me, she looks like a 20 year acting like a 20 year old. She's a little socially stunted; I was too at that age, but in my case it was because I'm autistic and not due to being raised weird for fame.
@@haleklind same here for me as a 27yo autistic. i grew up dancing so watched dance moms religiously lol, i'm really proud of her and i like her a lot (im also lgbt), but i don't enjoy her content so i dont watch it. it helps that i dont have snapchat
@@haleklind I'm 19 and have autism and I know what to do and what not to do on the internet.
I feel like people are a bit too harsh on her considering her childhood. She was constantly sexualized and in the public eye at a young age.
I agree. She is just trying to find her way in this crazy world like the rest of us. 😊
It must be so much harder without a "normal" upbringing.
People will bully her no matter what she posts, so sometimes I get why she posts weird shit.
yeah this video was weird to watch its like... whats the point
2:00
honestly. like she was hated and mocked by the entire internet as a child, she grew up surrounded by people screaming at each other and her, and now when it seemed people finally had started to like her again the hivemind decides we don’t like her anymore for the crime of being cringe ig?
I’m actually fascinated. When she was little, I felt that she was in a very exploitive industry. I agree that as an adult, her jarring personality is the inevitable response to a bizarre and isolating childhood, but I also had a very positive reaction to her coming out. She’s a role model of my grand daughters, and I want to raise open minded and accepting humans. My kids are both very open minded people. I’m very curious about what the fuss is about since I personally don’t use Snapchat at all. Don’t even see the point, tbh.
Singing while running on a treadmill is definitely a thing that I’ve heard a lot of music universities have their students do, but that might be on a professor by professor basis, and that is to say nothing about Jojo’s singing
but are you supposed to like belt or just sing normally?? i’ve always been curious about that!
as a kid, i absolutely hated on her. not because i had anything against her, but because EVERYONE WAS. it was this weird culture where anything that was perceived as overtly “girly” or colourful or just someone being themselves was just rejected by the internet. also, as a young girl, there was definitely a pick me element because she was easy to hate on for being “cringe”. that being said, she was also told how to be and how to be successful and famous from a really young age. as i got older, i could respect her for her dancing talent, her advertising and branding. BUT, this stuff is still weird and kind of unsettling and i get why people just want her to chill out because, i kind of do too. i just think she’s a good example of the internet going absolutely ham on someone, despite their age, just because they were a bit cringe.
I think she just needs help and a change of enviroment and to get off of the internet for a while to figure things out and live for herself
Yea anything or anybody with a young female audience is just a fucking magnet for hate, its so weird. Like justin beiber, any boy band, and even just toys. I knew from a very young age that i was “supposed” to make fun of my sisters dolls
Same here, everyone hated her than a new girl came to school with a Jojo bow and everyone chilled out
I agree, but I also think that if people don’t like her, they should just not pay her any attention instead of throwing unnecessary hate
@@DraugrCorpse Definitely agree, it’s so easy to just scroll away, and it’s SO easy to block people on TikTok.
Honestly, I forgot about her existence until now.
Had no idea what she was up too
Didn’t we all
....for good reason, honestly. i feel like no one has actually cared about her since she came out because she just hasnt done shit
Lmao then this dumb mf brought her back to relevance
No same...
OMG DIB PFP 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
It's concerning that people forget that Jojo was literally in the public eye since childhood, being sexualized, the object of hate and threats and carried the burden of securing a huge part of her family's financial income. On top, when she came out, it got even worse. People really act like what she went through doesn't have a huge effect on your psyche and development. And now she's dealing with it and trying to somehow find her way into adulthood, despite being conditioned to basically always be childlike for her audience.
And with the whole "faking pregnancy thing", wasn't that more a response to people bodyshaming her for having a tummy and her reacting with the joke " yeah, must be pregnancy "? Feel like there's context missing here. And even then, while it is insensitive to people with fertility issues and she should be told why it wasn't great, it's not a reason to "cancel" her.
i mean, if people are tired of seeing her on their snapchat page, why do they click on the stories? 😭
and being a bit cringe isn't a crime. She grew up under the eyes of so many people, I just hope she's happy with her life right now.
The kids who used to put balloons in there shirts to look like they’re pregnant: Oh shit
Insensitive to fat people.
Cancelled.
Shit I’m canceled
Silly me
i did that all the time lol. I actually put a ball in my shirt to pretend to be pregnant and got in trouble cause the store thought i was strealing.
i was 8.
nick ur so strong for covering such controversial issues
thank u
so true
The Lord's work fr 🙏🏾
this is some serious controversial issue that everyone gonna talk about for years to come
stay safe nick 🙏
"yeah you know i date older because i'm really mature for my age, i'm more like 29 than 19" is exactly what some 19 year old who is getting groomed by an older person would say
I feel like pregnancy, death, marriage, breakups, being sick, ect. are all fine to joke about since everyone has connections to them in one way or another. She’s not punching down, she’s just joking about some universal thing.
Something that irritates me about people is they assume your sexuality based on who you are dating. Jojo expressed her sexuality was “unlabeled”. which is valid. Just because she dated a girl doesn’t mean she’s only attracted to girls. She can date whoever she wants to, her sexual orientation is still valid and at the end of the day it’s her business.
I’m tired of ppl assuming sexuality in couples. I recently had to explain to my mother just bc I dated a girl doesn’t mean I’m lesbian. I’m bisexual. Always was, (probably) always will be.
…why does she call herself "gay" and not "bisexual" if she isn’t just attracted to girls, then
(And why does she not like the word "lesbian")
@@aidanmallon9879 gay is a umbrella term for all of the sexualities it doesnt just mean lesbian
@@aidanmallon9879 gay has been recently used more often as a blanket term, interchangeable with queer. If we were only to use it by it’s generally accepted def it would just be used by gay men.
I just call myself gay because I think a lot of bi and pan people are annoying as fuck lmao
@@aidanmallon9879 I'm pan and I call myself gay a lot, it's probably just simpler for her to say gay (especially if it's unlabeled)
Honestly, I just don’t care about Jojo Siwa and never have. She can do what she wants. Never understood why she gets so much hate when she’s basically the same as other “influencers”…
i think some of it is removing the sexy part (they’re all naked all the time on ig) and the flexing leaves u with what an “influencer” is and does, and it’s not great and people are uncomfortable
I disagree, I think she's hated for her differences. Too loud, too colorful, too girly, too boyish, too childlike, too gay. She's never been the kind of person who blended in.
@@screwyourhandle but that’s still nothing. Being different, being hated for being different…
It’s a super lame excuse from the haters.
@@screwyourhandle I mean, sure, but those are terrible reasons to hate someone. She shouldn’t get as much hate as she does for those reasons
It's also likely she gets bs for just getting famous so young and having a younger audience.
People with trauma always say they’re “so mature” and in a lot of ways they are and had to be but emotionally?….Stunted
Trauma led to her coming out of lesbian. That girl is troubled
I'm honestly surprised that you didn't cover the "I'm being used for clout" video here. By far the most interesting thing about Jojo that I've heard about recently is the whole dating drama thing, the cruise ship with the ex, etc. Maybe I'm just on lesbian TikTok but I was nothing if not entertained by that entire saga lol
8:30 As someone that wants children and can theoretically get pregnant, I think people need to stop using infertility issues to police other women. I could very well be infertile, which would devastate me, but I understand that my personal triggers are not everyone's problem. For example, having someone walk or stand close behind me is incredibly triggering for me, and I've had complete breakdowns from it happening. However, I never made it the problem of the person walking behind me because I realize they have no reason to be aware of how that might affect a random person like me. It's my job to work on it in therapy so that I can overcome that trigger in the future. Faking a pregnancy online is cringe, and I am curious why she did it, but as long as the people she knows IRL were in on the joke, it's not worthy of cancellation. It's weird but not amoral. The idea that a random woman not taking pregnancy "seriously enough" is insensitive to people struggling with infertility is some pro-life and misogynistic rhetoric. It's the exact argument people use against people that are happy about terminating their pregnancy. Not everyone that can get pregnant wants children, and it's absurd to expect everyone that can to treat pregnancy like it's this sacred, untouchable subject. Not everyone feels that way, and many of us are tired of having that rhetoric forced on us by others. JoJo isn't actually hurting anyone by doing this, and pretending she is is ridiculous. They are projecting their issues onto her instead of actually working on them. Your feelings are always valid, but they aren't always justified. Work on that shit in therapy. I just think clickbait is obnoxious.
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This!!!
Well said!
Well said!
People use fertility issues to shame trans men for getting hysterectomies sooooo often
I feel like she's still trying to figure out who she is after years of playing this character. And she's struggling doing that in front of the world, when it should be in private.
it SHOULD be private but the issue is if she doesnt keep a prominent social media presence, she could lose the attention and that can be really hard to gain back. she might not need the money now or in the near future but maybe one day she will so im sure shes trying to make as much money as she can while she still has eyes on her
Like Britney Spears.
@@womankisserjermaluvr It must be really hard for her to remove herself from media as she literally grew up being filmed etc and overly exposed to the public so I don’t think it’s only about money- it’s ingrained in her and that must be very hard to get away from
My 28 year old cousin literally always hates on her. I am literally 24 and never felt the urge to hate on a teenage kid. It's weird af and i dont understand. I feel so bad for JoJo and how she had to grow up. She has clearly been forcefully stunted to grow. She had to be mature for dance moms but act as a child once she started getting older for her kid audience. She got bullied by grown ass people online for her looks and voice. And now she came out and was finally able to date someone and the internet sort of loved her as a gay icon but then some people hated her for being a bad influence for liking girls. This girl has been through so much. I just want her to be happy and finally act like a teenager, which she never got to be.
i watched that whole podcast episode with ashley gavin where she talked about feeling older, and she followed it up stating she feels older and younger than her peers at the same time. which makes a lot of sense as they talked about it more, she had to be an “adult”, essentially having responsibilities of an adult since she was little while also missing out on a lot of the milestones that teens usually get to go through. so she’s playing catch up while also feeling older in some ways. i have a lot of empathy for her and that upbringing though i don’t follow her content.
If people think she's posting too much, they can just unfollow her. Nobody is forcing them. Gosh
It's not even that. Snapchat shoves her stories in your face when you open the app, so looking at them in some way is kind of unavoidable if you have it. Way fewer people would even know what's been going on with her and probably wouldn't care if it weren't for her Snapchat stories
@@maddief.8956 ok but like anyone who still uses snapchat has no right to complain, the app is basically just for pdf fiIes, "premium" content (if u know what I mean), and tabloid BS
You can literally block content on Snapchat lol I used to remove stuff off of mine all the time
@@maddief.8956 But that's on Snapchat, not her.
@@strawberryfox8819 Oh absolutely, I was just trying to say that that's the reason so many people that dislike her have been seeing her content in the first place. They probably block after the fact, but initially it's kind of hard to ignore. Snapchat doesn't really use a strong algorithm to target audiences the same way other social media apps do.
To me the pregnancy thing wasn’t distasteful to those with fertility struggles, but to people with bellies. Why does our society react in disgust at the sight of round tummies any time there isn’t a baby inside of it? She’s making fun of the way her body looks and playing into our society’s unspoken belief that “it’s only okay to look fat if you’re pregnant.”
She did it in response to people body shaming her for weight gain. Huge bit of context Nick is missing from this video.
i can answer your question. because visceral fat (fat around your organs) is the unhealthiest type to have in excess, and if you have enough to have a noticeable gut that’s a glaring health problem. an excess of sub-q fat on the stomach is also a huge problem - if a woman has enough of it to make her stomach stick out a lot, it’s a sign of either elevated cortisol or elevated androgens, when a man does it’s a telltale sign he’s obese. people tend to dislike traits that are symptoms of bad health (huge stomach unless it’s pregnant, acne and other skin disorders, hirsutism and head hair loss in women, obesity or emaciation etc) subconsciously bc it makes sense evolutionarily. hope that helps
@@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmaria ew bro
@@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmaria “if someone’s stomach sticks out at all they’re obese”
@@godisdead6611 i said a lot but clearly you’re deep in the fat acceptance bullshit. you’ll get a wake up call eventually
I feel a lot of empathy towards Jojo. I also had to grow up very quickly when I was younger, I then also missed out on the majority of the "highschool experience", and as a result of all that I ended up regressing a lot. Now, rather than acting my age (or 29 like jojo said) I feel more like a 14-16 year old. And I think the same has happened for Jojo. Plus, i have adhd and asd, and i would hazard a guess that jojo is also not neurotypical.
I have struggled so much with this, and I cannot imagine how much harder it would be to deal with while also being extremely public. Im not saying that people cant find her cringey, or that she is excused from any ownership of her actions, but I do feel for her.
Her at 19 claiming to be in the mental space of a 29 year old is honestly the most cringy 12 year old mentality ever 😂😅
If anyone’s wondering stamina singing is a thing my choir teacher made us do and it sucked but it definitely helped some people perform
I came here to confirm this as well. We had to do it for theater in high school because no one wants to hear people gasping while singing "Be Our Guest" and doing kicks.
Thank u for informing me
It’s also a thing for runners. If you can talk/sing while running you are running at an easy pace
Came here to say this! I think Beyonce was known to do something similar because she does a lot of choreography on stage on the floor and stuff so she needed good stamina to still belt
I watched Dance Moms, and I think that gives a slightly different perspective on Jojo. For some deep dives I'd recommend the channel Dance Moms uncovered, she does a really good job looking at evidence from a lot of different sources.
Anyway, Jojo's mom has said that as soon as she learned she was having a girl, she knew her daughter would wear bows, dance, and like it. She used Jojo's preschool money to pay for preformance arts classes. Oh, and Jojo's mom started bleaching her hair when she was six years old. Jojo started getting home schooled pretty young too, she was on Abby's Ultimate Dance Company when she was just eight years old (the youngest kid that season). Most of the other kids hated her, because she was a ball of energy who hadn't been around other kids in non-showbiz settings. Then she got on the main show, and got made fun of by adults, and then by some of the other kids in a meet and greet (The infamous "ireland video"). Through all of this her mom's been very much a stage mom, teaching Jojo to value fame above all else.
So, all things considered I'm really not surprised Jojo's turned out like she has.
It’s like the clinical version of theatre kid energy
Wow that’s so sad and horrible for her
If she just went on a bizarre adventure no one would be having any issues.
People can be offended all they want, that’s how they personally feel and they’re absolutely allowed to feel however they want. Cancelling her over an I guess elaborate and sorta mean joke isn’t something she deserves.
I’m sorry, but the pregnancy situation is ridiculous.
Firstly, Tana pls stfu with the “I would be cancelled if I did that” you’ve done FAR worse and still have a huge platform.
Secondly, to those who are mad at Jojo: would you still be mad if people weren’t telling you that you should be mad? Would you still be mad if people weren’t saying this was cancellable? Because I don’t think a lot of you would. I think everyone is just jumping on the hate train.
And I’m saying all this as someone who doesn’t even like Jojo Siwa. I think it’s weird that she still associates with/supports Abby Lee Miller after it was revealed that she was abusive and racist.
I had no idea about this situation until this video and yes, I’m mad about it. Infertility affects 1 in 6 people and miscarriages happen to 1 in 8. I have multiple friends who have miscarried or had to spend thousands to conceive via IVF. They’ve had family and friends say really insensitive things to them repeatedly after losing babies. So it is incredibly insensitive to joke about being pregnant and then go “oops! Actually, I’m not and lied about it” like it’s some easy thing that can happen to everyone and not something that can be incredibly challenging and harmful.
@@whitneyfluttershyelizabeth her having fun with her body (pretending to be pregnant) isn’t some insensitive thing she’s specifically saying to someone after a miscarriage or to someone who has infertility issues. while she has such a large reach that her content will probably reach someone in these situations, it’s very much different than an apathetic coworker or family member saying insensitive things or making untimely pregnancy announcements (examples i’m listing from the experiences of people in my life rather than from your comment). don’t take your anger for those people out on her. she’s still a very young person and has not had a lot of experiences due to her upbringing as a celebrity.
i’d like to make another point, which is that regardless of if it’s offensive (which we can disagree on), is the reaction proportional to the offense she has caused? i sincerely doubt it
I don't care one way or the other about her. And I don't think she should be cancelled or nothing for the pregnancy thing. It just feels insulting. I've been pregnant and given birth. Its a super overwhelming period of time both mentally and physically (and for some people its a waking nightmare) and for all of that to be ignored because "Omg I ate so much look im pregnant!" By an adult feels insulting. Plus the buying of baby clothes and stuff. Thats a lot of emotions you are just playing around with for fun.
So no, not cancellable but like... rude? It feels similar to when people mock ADHD with the "LOOK SQUIRREL!" thing (I have ADHD) and while, yeah, its pretty minor and in the grand scheme of things not really a big deal but still really rude and disrespectful of the struggles people with ADHD have with trying to do daily tasks.
@@whitneyfluttershyelizabeth she never claimed she was pregnant, people started rumors about her and she went along with it as a joke. if your old enough to have kids and find out your infertile, why are you watching jojo siwa?
DUUDE THIS.
the larynx photos made me die laughing. i’m a singer myself, and we actually study vocal chord scans in my chorus class. for someone like jojo siwa it is actually really good to get larynx scans quite often. my chorus teacher even brings her own scans and we watch them to notice if there is anything wrong. you learn to have a good appreciation for a good larynx scan and the information it provides
This is really cool
Im pretty sure people spread the pregnancy rumours and she reacted by making jokes and clickbait. Personally if someone came up to me and went "how far along are you?" And i wasnt pregnant i would feel a little embarassed and insecure and i know a lot of women feel that way. Then imagine the entire internet is spreading rumours and talking about how youre pregnant when youre not. THAT is insensitive
the pregnancy thing honestly comes off (to me) as more of a way to cope with the body discomfort she's voiced alongside those posts. i don't know if its the most constructive way to go about it for both herself and her viewers- but famous people (especially former child stars) deserve to be able to navigate themselves, handle things, be cringe, and even post things while being afforded the understanding that they are a nuanced human expressing themselves and not a constantly 100% admirable product
feel the need to clarify bc its youtube that criticism and calling out or challenging legitimately harmful behavior is a good thing, but i feel like a lot of jojo hate is just because she's kinda cringe and still navigating appropriate levels of boundaries to have with fans
It started as a joke… she said multiple times that it was a “food baby”
Ooooh. So she never faked anything…
Yeah I think it was more pretending and goofing and not “faking”
yeah people are hella soft
Thank you, Nick, for keeping me up to date on all the ridiculous micro dramas and stimulus overload that made me avoid tik tok in the first place
late but - this is exactly how i feel lmao
people with infertility issues have the biggest victim complexes, its so annoying.
not really... usually those who screech "THINK OF INFERTILE WOMEN" are perfectly fertile themselves. Plenty of women with infertility issues prefer not to have their status used as some sort of martyrdom/ tragedy, because there's more to the human experience than giving birth to a baby. It's so annoying to have your human experience boiled down to "you're a woman who can't have a baby, so your life is over, and anything else that makes you human, such as your education, circle of friends, hobbies and career, is completely invalid now, you poor thing!!!" This victimization often comes from other people, tbh.
It's the same with cultural appropriation, the only people who police others on "cultural appropriation" tend to be white americans - who, ironically, appropriate a bastardized version of nordic culture (specifically nordic mythos and vikings) or pseudo-Italian culture all the time -_-
actually a LOT of kpop idols used to run on the treadmill and sing their songs, to get singing stamina and stability so they can sing while dancing and out of breath
I watched her Snapchat stories once... she's the only thing popping up there now. It's either her own stories or news articles talking about her.
Sounds like a nightmare. I always scroll past them😭
yup same
I ended up hiding her on snap. I was sick of the pregnancy baits. So fkn weird.
Also offended that Snapchat kept suggesting her to me
I've just see her face on juice containers
have people considered like, just not looking at her content if it makes them so angry? it's not like it's hard. I hadn't seen anything about her in years and would have continued not seeing it if it wasn't for this video. People online just don't know how to walk away from things that they really don't have to consume lol
thank you. like this is what we're concerned about rn?
Snapchat almost forces the content upon you, I’m a 25 year old male who basically only watches weed influencers and sports. So you would think that some little girl would be the LAST thing snapchat would recommend to me. But when I scroll over. One of the first thing I see is “jojo siwa” with a giant yellow star and a clickbait title along with other people IVE NEVER HEARD OF. Only reason I know the jojo girl is cause my niece is in dance and has been obsessed with her for years. I’ve never once looked up a single thing about her, but yet it’s still the number 1 thing being suggested to me on my Snapchat
@@justinhuddleston6105 just block her, it’s not that hard lol
@@desmayrie I don’t even click on the suggested stories they give on my discover page so I have no need to block, I’m just saying they’re literally shoving it in everyone’s face. It’s not just “how about you don’t look at it” when they’re FORCING IT ONTO YOUR SOCIAL PLATFORMS.
@@justinhuddleston6105 Who the hell the snapchat discover page anyways? You're just using social media wrong.
as a literal 29yo im gonna go ahead and say jojo is very much giving teenager to me lmao
imagine having a car with your face on it before even having a license... I knew she was going to grow up VERY strangely
I love how Nick said "get pregnant WITH* somebody" and not, ' get somebody pregnant'.
Seriously. It really makes the relationship concepts feel more balanced and less objectifying in so little words with so little effort. People often forget how often little shifts in phrasing like that can be really important in affecting perspective.
Vocal training on a treadmill is an actual thing mostly used for Koop idols to get stable when singing and dancing on stage. However they usually have professional trainers that progressively work with them so they don’t end up sounding like they’re dying while singing 😭
koop
Thank you for doing these videos Nick!
It genuinely makes me feel more connected to what’s going on in general pop/celebrity culture for ppl younger than me. I don’t want to spend hours on tik tok or follow cringe 20 year olds so I appreciate the recaps!
Very entertaining and informative, and I’m not at all being sarcastic if it comes off that way.
I'm sorry but nothing makes less sense than people who can't conceive or have had miscarriages policing the bodies and actions of women that can give birth, a pregnancy joke is not indirectly or directly affecting someones past pregnancy or not being able to conceive. The whole "don't make jokes about being pregnant because some people can't" is very much in line with people that have pro-life values, people feel so entitled to how other women view pregnancy, especially if they don't want to be a mother they see it as it not being fair they can't live vicariously through someone else, or their envy turns into a sense of entitlement and wanting control over other women. People act like she's flexing her ability to conceive and she needs to be more sensitive about it, it's so so weird and doesn't wholey represent women that are infertile or have miscarried.
Very true, it would be a WHOLE other story if she was tagging an influencer who was sharing their miscarriage or infertility story time or something, in which case, idek what to say, only a heinous and hideous person would do that sort of thing. Jojo just reacted to someone else starting pregnancy rumours, she didn't even bring up the pregnancy until other people started speculating about *her*.
This is so well put.
I agree 100%. I also felt kind of off about how mad people were she faked a pregnancy and I couldn't quite put a finger on why.
yeah i wouldn't exactly call it insensitive or disrespectful it's just a really fuckin weird thing to do, and as some people have said a really lame and sorta shamefully desperate way to get back into the spotlight
I’ve lost a baby in the past but idgaf if people make jokes about it or whatever because that has nothing to do with me personally. I do understand certain topics being touchy because of their experiences but it’s not anyone else’s responsibility to adjust their lives to your comfort. It’s your very personal responsibility to learn to process your own emotions and be aware of your reactions to things. My 2 cents
Nick I’ve noticed that all of your TikTok drama videos are focused on women. I don’t think it’s your fault but I think it’s an interesting thing how different conversations are about women versus men messing up on the internet. Once you see it you can’t unsee it
Very true!!! Women being cringe very often leads to muuuch worse outcomes too like doxxing in particular and just extreme harassment in general 😔
there is so much other cringe/bad posting out there and jojo siwa is who we're focusing on? I think your point is a big part of how the algorithm was designed to boost topics and 'well meaning' videos like this are what we get
I think it has something to do with him not covering heavy topics and his content being a bit light-hearted? I mean whenever there's drama involving male influencers, it's usually that they are exposed being criminals, s*xual predators, p*dos, ab*sers etc. In the case of women, they just get hated on for anything (unimportant reasons)😭
I dont think Nick joins the hate bandwagon tho? He just brings attention to the topic and gives out his opinion so is there a problem with that?
it's totally unintentional because the world naturally likes to make drama about women. so any relevant 'tea' is more likely to be about them :///
@@zee0905_ Yeah, the original comment wasn't implying that Nick was partaking in any sort of misogynistic bandwagon, more so that 'cringe' is a term that applies disproportionally to women (especially online) simply expressing their interests and such which is why is gets turned into an actual situation with media coverage when men aren't really targeted often like that.
Edit: was elaborating
Criticizing her for just being her is lowkey highkey cringe. Like they can just block the account, not that hard gosh.
stamina singing is a thing ! a lot of k-pop idols sing while on the treadmill or working out in order to practice singing well while dancing. it just seems like jojo strains her voice even when she's singing normally, so the treadmill doesn't really help lol
It's sad to me that this is all happening. She's my age. And while I'm moving between college dorms and getting to find myself on my own time table, she's being continued to be pushed into the lime light, and encouraged to take deals with apps like snapchat... which so many people act like is a dream, but it's just sad to watch. She didn't get the same childhood as people our age and she never got to find who she is without someone behind the camera coaching her, or without the pressure of this or that. I think she should take a break, especially if she's had a breakdown about feeling used, and invest in who she wants to be outside of the camera. Not because I think she's cringy, but because she deserves time to heal without everyone judging everything she does. When you called out how pregnancy faking is a family vlog trend, it clicked. She's literally trying to act like the adults that get the views she wants. That's all she's ever been taught to want. To succeed at the fame game. It's honestly disconcerting how many feed into it by tearing into her.
This 👆
When are people going to leave this girl alone 😂, out of all the public figures and CZcamsrs out there living their lives who have legitimately hurt people, her offense is so insanely laughable. Genuinely believe people just hate her to hate her
I agree
this
Like there's so many others that are actually problematic like grow up and use your tiny ass brain for once
She's just cringe which is unfortunalty the worst thing you be on the internet. Racist? Homophobic? Literal criminal? that's fine as long as you're not 'cringe'.
I don’t hate her just to hate her, I dislike her for what she did to her exes
12:23 THE JUMPING JACKS LMAOAOOOO
Stamina singing training is actually a thing hahaha they made us do it when I was studying musical theater so we could hold our harmonies better when dancing. though we weren’t supposed to be screaming, we were supposed to be singing to manage out voice control while out of breath. So it’s more of a “know what moments in the song to take a breath” thing
i really appreciated her when she came out because i really loved her when i was little and im a lesbian. now that shes older, i feel like she is trying to hold on to her relatability with little kids but also trying to appeal to adults which is not gonna work in the long-run
Not to mention, she literally said lesbophobic things in an interview, it broke my heart :(
@@lilac8420 i know i was really shocked too
and? that happens with every child celebrity. 🤷🏻
@@lilac8420 When I google it all I get is her not wanting to be called a lesbian. Which isn’t lesbophobic.
@@asmrtpop2676 she said she hated the word lesbian which is pretty diff
with the treadmill singing stuff, its actually super common!! as someone in theater, advice i get told a lot is too exercise while singing so i can work on breath support!! this makes it a lot easier to sing and dance on stage at the same time :D
(i dont mean this in a mean way at all, just wanted to clarify^^)
Exactly! Singing stamina training is 100% a thing
I always sing and dance! It’s the only kind of exercise I can actually get lost in because I’m so insistent on nailing the notes yet still too restless to sit still 😂
Correct but she wasn’t doing it properly at all 😂
The treadmill thing is actually a vocal exercise live singers do, especially if they dance and sing at the same time
I really don't know if she is baiting pregnancy she always makes jokes about food babies after she eats. It's something she jokes about on snapchat a lot and with that context it makes me think that she is not intentionally faking them people are just missing information
she’s a workout addict so she clearly eats a ton at once, gets bloated, takes pics, works out after digesting, rinse repeat
Yeah, I kinda got a feeling that this was just one of those times where the internet cherrypicks a few events to cancel a person because they're bored
i watched one of her snapchat stories after i first heard about this “drama” (i didn’t seek it out but i was curious when she popped up on my snapchat doom scroll) and it felt immediately obvious it was a consistent joke she made?? like it seemed like a coping thing. not my style of comedy, but i’m just not her target audience 🤷🏻
People always start off fawning over child celebrities and then tossing them in the trash when they're older.. It's creepy af tbh how people obsess over literal children and then go 'you're not cute anymore! 😩😡' when they start maturing or going through puberty!
Beyoncè did marathon vocal training. Lol
As someone who has had pictures taken of their larynx and found the folder years later, it'll definitely make you jump before you realize what you're actually looking at
have 2 say i dont think 'singing bad' is cringe. like who cares if someones just havin a good time and they sound funny why do people always gotta worry about being their best polished performing self at every moment 🤔 i think more people should be apologetically 'bad' or even simply 'subpar' lol. whether or not it's a good exercise [i dont know myself] i think it's humanizing to hear people when theyre not at their best and are just doing a rough warm up or whatever.
thank you, that was probably the weirdest part of this video for me. like let people who cant sing well enjoy themselves go be the art police somewhere else
Idk my hearing is good maybe that's why I don't like hearing it. It's loud and it hurts my ears, I wouldn't want someone screaming notes at me in tune either tho. I just won't watch but I understand why someone would describe it as cringe
@@Hip.Username i understand that as someone who also has a sound sensitivity issue! but i'm not saying you have to ENJOY someone singing loud or off key, i just think it's kinda in bad taste how quick people in general are to jump to insulting/shaming a person for doing something innocent and fun and 'imperfect', yknow?
@@HamiGirl1 oh ok I gotcha. Yeah I think Jojo doesn't deserve the hate she gets over this kind of stuff. I think she had some controversy over exes or something? But aside from that she's always gotten treated like it was wrong for her to exist. I think she turned out well for someone with that kind of hate and I respect it
Her singing was healthy and I sing while running, it works. Also she is, for the first time in over a decade, able to make her own decisions ON her own.
its stupid that people want to cancel her for pregnancy jokes. She didnt do anything wrong people need to chill.
This may be the weirdest episode of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
I thought people were mad at her because she mistreated her exes
tired of cringe tired of calling people weird this is exhausting
Honestly though. Calling people out for being harmful is necessary but this is just a young person existing in the public eye. Abolish cringe culture
@@alittlefrog2395 She's 20! Young
Hi nick! I love allll the commentary you do, its what got me subscribing to this channel but i would love to see more vids like the Girl Scouts (it became my comfort vid) and crossing the red light!
Not sure what shes done but me and my partner were non-stop getting advertisements for her movie so we got sick of her last year😂
I thought jojo siwa wasn't relevant anymore lmao
Jobu Tupaki?
@@alastormedial The donut??
@@AmelieKaren7_13 its a bagel 🙄🙄🙄
shes pushed at me on snapchat alllll the time it's really annoying
@@missmoon1849 bagel with donuts on it
I think it’s not just because of the pregnancy, that’s some thing that people can latch onto, but a lot of people have pre-existing discomfort with her because of her dating history, and how she chooses to react to break ups and harassing people on the Internet
She went to my university to film something (idk for sure what she was doing bc I wasn't there. It was all over the school reddit). It was the week before finals and she and her people were talking so loudly. They tried to interact with people in the library trying to study. Everyone was really upset about it because it was just very inconsiderate and thoughtless of her and the people with her. I don't think she's a bad person, but she is a young rich person, and that comes with a level of disconnect from reality.
she is the embodiment of “slide up for a tbh and rate”
I thought being mad about pregnancy jokes was related to April fools day, because a lot of guys were getting baited into reaction videos just to see how they would react and some men were totally devistated when they found out that their partner wasn't pregnant. After that happened SEVERAL times lol, eventually a whole movement thing came up about "don't make April fools jokes about being pregnant!! It's trashy!!" So I guess it rolled from there to just don't do it at all? But what else are you gonna say when you get really bloated, or full from eating? "Welp, guess I gotta shit!!" It's not as funny as saying "I think it's a boy!!" I guess guys can still do it, but still lol, everyone should be able to make that joke after a 5 pound burrito!!
Wow, if the burrito is 5 lbs you're def gonna give birth to something
@@Hip.Username I've been there and it wasn't pretty
thank you! i can’t believe people actually think it’s offensive. anytime people are arguing about insensitive jokes, i’m ALWAYS on the side of ”if it’s insensitive, don’t say it” but this is too far. today was the first day i’ve ever called someone sensitive, and it’s these people in these comments
I think the problem is she took to far, it wasn't a joke anymore but kinda a lie.
if she just made some offhand comment about how she was pregnant because "lol I'm having a food baby" then no one would've cared. it's the fact she dragged it on for so long, pretending to buy baby clothes and having people take photos with her as if she was expecting. it felt more like a publicity stunt than a joke tbh
I’ve been waiting for someone to talk about this for ages thank you Nick!!!
I was a BFA Musical Theatre major for a year. They actually do recommend you run on a treadmill and sing to prepare you for being in an ensemble.
Im literally shocked when i hear shes the same age as me, every single time. Thinking about someone my age acting the way she did in last 5 years is insane. I dont know if its where i grew up but from the age of 11 and 12 everyone is desperately trying to grow up and appear older and cooler, forcing a young teen to remain very childish is abuse, and probably so extremely confusing. I was always so sad for her, not that she wasnt more grown up but because i know she probably wanted to be and wasnt allowed to. Now that ive matured a couple more years i love the colorful "childlike" vibes and wish kids weren't pressured to grow up especially now.
Yes, I think Anderson Coopers talked about cake and tattoos before he became a big news guy.
Yeah I remember seeing those articles he wrote. Back when journalism was journalism and no woke nonsense 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
I'm a 26 year old woman - I don't want kids. I have family who wants kids and has struggled to get pregnant. I was once envisioning a future for myself involving kids, and then when I was 13 I was told I cannot get pregnant, or else because of my disability, I would die. I think that the faking a pregnancy because you are bloated is a thing a lot of YOUNG teens would do on their private story or text messages, the fact that she did that publicly over multiple days is very messed up.
One of my friends went to the extreme of faking a pregnancy in high school. She announced she was pregnant before summer ended.. and came back with an actual baby bump prop. It was wild.
i came across one of her exes vids on tiktok saying she keeps talking about their past relationship resulting in people going after said ex and their current partner, even tho it was all over with months ago.
thats probably the worst ive seen of her though, everything else it just a bit weird and i honestly kinda fear for her when she talks about feeling mentally mature because as you mentioned shes really not, her experiences have had the opposite effect if anything, and if shes specifically aiming to date older women because of that it could end in an unhealthy relationship so easy. "youre so mature for your age" is one of the biggest red flags in a potential relationship and she wouldnt notice it because she thinks its true.
i’m afab and i probably could never have kids but i really don’t think it’s all that insensitive. it’s not like funny or interesting either, and it is super hard to go through infertility and miscarriage, but physically having kids isn’t the only way to have kids. we culturally deify pregnancy in a really weird way. we can recognize that pregnancy is so amazing and cool and important and something a lot of people want to experience while also acknowledging it’s just a part of being human and not the be all and end all of having a family. that ended up being much longer than i meant it to but i guess i had thoughts
Yeh I agree but I see why people think it is tho it's kinda borderline I think anyway
Well said!
Just started watching your videos, after your pregnancy pic, im obsessed 🤣❤️
When you’re made to act mature at a young age that doesn’t carry with you meaning you always act more mature than you are… it actually means you get stuck at that younger age…
I have severe (stage 3) endometriosis causing severe infertility and before I knew I had an abortion because it wouldve killed me to try to carry to term. (I really want kids when i can afford them and so this was v traumatizing) I don't think it's insensitive or rude. It's childish sure but it didn't trigger any bad feelings from me. What did make me mad is it's women who don't have fertility issues saying we'll be hurt and not us most the time.
thanks for uploading this Nick, really looking forward to learning who JoJo Siwa actually is, I definitely recognize the name. can't wait to see how this turns out.
wow. bummer. kinda wish I knew less. thanks anyway for the video.
@@__m-a-x__ all good man yeah thank you
@@__m-a-x__ character development 😂
considering there are people on the internet who openly advocate for human trafficking in their "financial self-development podcast" or people who brag about r@p!ng their own mother, learning about Jojo Siwa is not the worst online burden you can bare
@@ameliag.9940 it’s a joke you humorless dunce. Never said it was the “worst online burden I can bear” (not bare). Obviously JoJo doesn’t even come close to some of the stuff Tate or CWC or Cyraxx or other lolcows have done. You’re not cooler than everyone just because you went on KiwiFarms once.
the way the all assumed she was a lesbian because she dated a girl, even when she said she was unlabeled, and they forgot that lesbians can get pregnant too
12:35 i know that a lot of theatre singers are supposed to voice train to help on stage, but obviously it’s so important to incorporate making sure you get intonation, volume, and key correct
I think she’s just a person living they’re life. Everyone just needs to leave her alone if they don’t like her, and show her love if they do. I hate when ppl throw hate for no reason.
is it no reason when she brings kids around james charles ?
very much felt like a clickbait pile on
their* lol
amen
The thing that got me on her snap stories was the day her dog died. Literally minutes on end of her saying the same thing over and over smiling while crying at different times of day. It was so dystopian. Girly just take a day off. You don’t need to Snapchat every second of your day when a pet you love passes. I get people grieve differently but the fact that she posted so much that day felt weird…
I can see how that would be really weird but I wonder if she was contractually obligated to do that since Snapchat pays her to post a certain number of times each day? Like maybe there wasn’t really the option to take the day off
@@alittlefrog2395 I'd be like "I don't care how much you pay me, let me have time to grieve." My dog is so much more important than anything else in the world, he's been my best friend for years, gotten me through some of my hardest moments and if someone would expect me to just be ok with him being gone... I just couldn't
And it's beyond cruel that they didn't give her any time. Or might not have. That must have been devastating
IS THIS HOW I FIND OUT BOWBOW DIED ?!???????!!!??
@@alittlefrog2395 I was wondering the same thing
I like that u've clearly gotten more comfortable in front of a camera. Feels more natural, well done man 👌.