19 Obscure Secrets in Gen 2 Pokémon!
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Great video, man! You've been firing on all Cyndaquils lately!
lol
I love Poke Puns.
He is incorrect on at least one thing: the legendary trio is confirmed to NOT be based on the eeveelutions. In the CZcams canon anime "Pokemon Generations: Episode 6: The Reawakenin", they show that the 3 pokemon were in fact dogs.
Nerd
Ur mom @@ryanlight1013
Tajiri being a bug catcher is so cute when you know the story behind it
Basically Pokémon as a whole was inspired from when he used to catch bugs in his youth
Oh, I thought it was cause he was a bug tester or something xD
Wasn't this Sugimoris backstory?
@@Beliar_VR Nope. That is Tajiri's backstory. Hence the name Bug Catcher Tajiri in Crystal's Battle Tower
The belly drum sword dance thing caught me absolutely offguard. Never knew this
Me neither. That's cool.
Same. Then again I never use the move, nor had it used against me very often. I'm not surprised I never knew about that little secret. Now that I do, I'll use it like I'm addicted.
I always assumed Olivine Lighthouse was the "pseudo" Gym for Jasmine, as it featured a few trainers. Since you clear it and then go right to her Gym, makes sense why the actual Gym is so barren.
iirc one of the Lasses in the lighthouse talks about finding Jasmine and dragging her back out, and I kinda figured that was one of her Gym Trainers hanging out there
Yeah, I think there's a gym leader in Gen 3 that gave me the same impression
So there's a whole other gym (Cianwood) in between the Olivine pseudo gym and real gym.
You can go right to her gym after that? I thought you had to climb it to trigger the pharmacist to give you the medicine, and then climb it again to finally get her to go to the gym.
@@Alienldr Gen 2 had a fair bit of freedom with the gyms. You could do 5-7 in any order. There was nothing to stop you from going east and taking on Pryce before the other two. Likewise, as long as you reached Cianwood City, you could get the medicine, even if you didn't necessarily know what it was for yet.
i feel like i remember Jasmine saying something to us like "steel types are pretty new" which makes her all the more important as the first steel-type gym leader. no one else is in the gym because she's the only one who's studied steel types enough to be able to apply and work as the steel type leader! not to mention its impressive to see how she was able to obtain a steelix
Considering Steel type Pokémon weren’t new by the time the Gen IV remakes came out, I wonder how GameFreak handled Jasmine’s dialogue when they were updating the game’s story and setting to include all the new things added to the canon.
@@Jolis_Parsecdon’t think they needed to change much except highlight how she was the first Steel type gym leader and be happy steel type became more popular
Interesting when you consider the dex entry that states that Onix that have lived for 1,000 years evolve into Steelix, meaning one of these statements is a contradiction or the pokemon world isn't really as old as they say.
All I know is, a game like PLA takes us to the not so far off past where we see wild Steelix, and in the pokemon war, there was Steelix.
Either way, pokemon is filled with inconsistencies 🙄.
@ugn154 the Pokedex is extremely unreliable. It's the Wikipedia of the Pokemon world 😂
@@ugn154 the pokedex is an absolute write off the developers dont actually put any thought into pokemon summarizations. Its basically just imaginative flavour text for kids. They could have made the Pokédex concept way cooler like the Dex NAV was in gen 3
The sprite used for the overworld Lapras was the same sprite used when Surfing. Both the Lapras and Onix dolls use unique sprites. Snorlax is the only one who uses the same sprite for both the overworld Pokémon and its doll.
No, it was the sprite for the lapras in union cave.
@@renatoramos8834 No it wasn't. Lapras in the Union Cave had the same sprite with the one used when surfing, but with a blue color pallette.
@@InF3XioN yes inJ3XioN you're right. Renato Ramos you're wrong.
@@InF3XioN that blue color palette is used when you play as a Girl in Crystal
Recently replayed Crystal and I can confirm I never saw that Lapras doll sprite. The Lapras you can catch in the cave indeed uses the same sprite you use when surfing.
Lapras' overworld sprite is only 1x1, so the large doll has a unique sprite
Also, I’m pretty sure Ampharos was supposed to be electric / steel as a reference to steel wool, but they likely removed that secondary typing because it was already used by the Magnemite line. If Ampharos had that typing, it would tie in a lot better to Jasmine’s storyline with an Ampharos lighting the Olivine Lighthouse (basically Jasmine is the person who lights the lighthouse).
It was originally going to be Electric/Dragon, but was changed in development. That's why Mega Ampharos is Electric/Dragon, its supposed to be a reference to its original concept.
Actually the ampharos line is basic off a books title “Do Androids dream of electric Sheep”.
@@GiantBluebird correct
@@GiantBluebird also it's Japanese name is Denryuu, and we know ryuu means dragon
I'm disappointed they didn't make it a steel type
Do you know that if you let shuckle hold a Berry, it will make a Berry juice?
Also if you let shellder/cloyster hold Pearl it will be a Big Pearl after a certain amount of time
No I've never heard of either of those. That it so cool. I wonder if they also happen in later gens
Yes. I remember reading that in Nintendo power I think? I can't remember where I learned it
I knew about the shuckle and the berry juice. But never knew about the Shellder/Cloyster and the pearl
@@RosyKitteh no, Berry juice is only obtainable in the later generations on Wild Shuckle, the mechanic is completely gone. As for the big pearl, I swore I read randomly on the internet almost 20 years ago and succeeded, I however can't find same information even on bulbapedia
@@brandonfulstone7628 honestly surprised they didn't repeat that with the item Stardust and shelder/cloyster/clamperl, to mimic the real process in which pearls are formed from sand.
This amount of secrets is amazing, especially in a game that we probably played 10 times casually not knowing all these mysteries
10??? You obviously had a lot to do. I probably played it 50 times or more hahaha
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@@FreightmareFTW What the fuck this has anything to do with Pokémon ?
@@FreightmareFTW go away
@@slicklol Lol same. My most replayed generation aside from gen 3.
I have been playing Gen 2 since release day. Never caught that Whitney's gym was a Clefairy. Wow.
You must be lower on the IQ spectrum
Pokémon Gold was my first ever cartridge when I was a kid. I used to play it A LOT! Gen 2 will always be my favorite one! I love this type of content, so congrats (:
Same except I played Silver.
Pokémon Gold was my introduction to the series & will always be my favorite
Quit being biased
@@HistoryandReviews never
Your last name is a doozy…
Same here
Fun fact 1: You are likely to encounter Gyarados at the L10 bracket at BattleTower. It knows *_DragonRage..._*
Fun fact 2: When you beat Claire, she demands the DragonFang from inside the den. Held item trading won't work here and she calls bs on you from where you got it, denying the badge. Reason being that this quest is a simple sequence check where certain game flags have to be triggered before you can move on. One of them is actually entering the den map
Wait, they actually programed a special response for if you provide a traded fang? Haha, amazing
@@MaxRavenclaw It is intended to stop you from sequence breaking since Claire gives you the HM for Waterfall in there. If you never visit the dungeon, you are never able to progress (Unless you train a Seaking, those learn Waterfall iirc)
@@TheDendran Claire does not give you the HM for waterfall though? You get that in the ice path. You must be confused with Wallace in gen 3
@@user-sw8gb3fz8x Might be, it's 2 decades now lol.
But fact is she demands you entering DragonsDen.
If you can cheese it by entering, leaving and getting a traded DragonFang afterwards is not known to me
@@TheDendran Haha yeah its easy to get things mixed up. I have no idea myself if you can cheese it that way but you propably don't, apparently you have to pick up the dragon fang to trigger her appearance in the den otherwise she just calls you out for "cheating" haha. Thats pretty cool, incredible detail for a gameboy game
Did you know about Clair's easter egg dialogue if you trade for a dragon fang instead of acquiring it the normal way? One of the lesser known fun facts about these games.
Interesting what does she say?
@@lugiamastero13 she says she knows that's not the real dragon fang and that she's disappointed in you.
@@TheIncredible2IC lmao damn that explanation she gives is very much in character for her considering gow petty she already is after her defeat this just adds a nice cherry on top of all this xD essentially she is basically saying it's fake because it's not the one she wanted you to go and grab
I think Blue's Gym is built to be rearranged to allow for different battle arena shapes
Favorite Pokemon Gen right here with HGSS and Platinum being my favorite games (still feel like Pokemon RB has an untouchable atmosphere.) Thanks for these videos!
RB and Platinum are lame and I was an RY Addict.
@@HistoryandReviews By RB I mean Red and Blue, not Ruby. What's RY?
@@jackb7647 no one mentioned Ruby 🤡
@@HistoryandReviews Wrong opinion
Blue did a living dex before us. Once again, one step ahead us!!!!
Smell ya later
That little bastard!
I clicked on this like “ugh, another one of these videos. I’ll listen to it while looking for something good to remind myself of the stuff everyone already knows”, but there’s not a single thing here I’ve ever heard anything about. Blue’s gym was so interesting and the perfect thing to begin with
Crystal really should've had the safari zone, I'm sure they could've fit something small. In general, Crystal didn't feel drastically different from gold & silver compared to other 3rd color games
All of Kanto felt rushed in gen 2, like they just added it last second or something
@@rustysalmonella7681 I'm not sure, the beta 1997 leak seemed to show that they were already trying to integrate Kanto in, but the map was an unfinished mess
@@Valientlink perhaps only so much room on those cartridges
@@rustysalmonella7681 True, but Crystal definitely could've fit it I think. It was able to add the battle tower and other things exclusive to Japan like the mobile phone thing, Celebi event, Dragon's Den extended. I think they just got lazy, I mean a map of it does exist but it's barely put together. Probably just got lazy about it, I mean it wouldn't have added that much but still, the mechanics were there since they're used in the bug catching contest. But I guess if it was opened the most you'd get are some items, but a cool TM as a reward would be alright too.
@@Valientlink yea good call, Japan’s did have a bunch more. I think any normal person would go insane trying to figure out Nintendo back then lol
My cannon is that Blue caught all but 2 of the 151, Mew and Mewtwo. We can assume there are multiple legendary birds as seen in other regions, and Red caught Mew and Mewtwo. Blue even brags about how many Pokemon he caught in Gen 1.
4:23 of all the years I've spent playing Pokémon, I had no idea one of my favourite items, the Scope Lens, made its debut in Gen II. I used Mystery Gift on Pokémon Stadium 2 almost everyday as a kid and was lucky enough to receive some of the rare decorations (N64, surfing Pikachu doll, Lapras doll) but never a Scope Lens. 8:29 the Gen II DV/IV system also made it so that females of a 7-1 gender ratio species could *not* be shiny since shininess required an Attack IV of at least 2 and females of those species maxed out at 1. Even though the Special stat was split into Sp.Atk & Sp.Def in Gen II, the two stats shared the same DV in order to maintain backwards compatibility; Sp. Def didn't receive a separate IV or its own EV vitamin (Zinc) until Gen III. Another thing about the IV system is that Pokémon of female-only species were the *only* females that could potentially have max Attack IVs in Gen II, which meant mons like Kangaskhan and Nidoqueen could reach their full physical potential whereas female Machamp or Tyranitar *couldn't.* Whenever I play a Gen II game, I prefer male physical attackers (but anything goes for special attackers.)
On a related note, I thought the move Mach Punch was introduced in Gen 3. Then I found out it existed in Gen 2.
@@drygnfyre During Gen 3, I thought Vital Throw was a Gen 3 move but then I looked in my Pokémon Stadium 2 book and found out it was introduced in Gen 2 (but was exclusive to the Machamp line.)
@@Warhawk9012 There's a lot of weird stuff in the early gens. Aerodactyl couldn't learn Rock moves until the Stadium games. Charizard couldn't Fly in Red/Blue. It's weird watching videos about older gens and seeing how barren a lot of them were in regards to move pools.
@@drygnfyreIn Yellow Charizard can learn fly at least
Worrrd mai entire 3DSXL Lv. 60 PokeTeam are all Male c:
Jasmine's gym originally was the lighthouse, hence why she's on a 2F.
The code was scrapped, but not completely, with the redesign of the city.
Gen II games and Pokemon Stadium 2 go together better than true love and marriage. I've never seen two games go so well together that they mutually compliment and benefit each other, which is why I argue that Gen II Pokemon and Pokemon Stadium 2 are the best of all Pokemon because they're practically symbiotic and one, rather than two different games in the franchise.
Tbf, the kimono girls also focus on Eeveelutions in the same city as Bell Tower, so I think Ecruteak just has a thing for Eevee overall.
The reason they have brightpowder is because you could actually miss with Pokeballs against legendaries in Gen 1
Wait, what? Does that mean you cannot miss with Pokeballs against legendaries in Gen 2?
@@Wissle Only Gen 1 has the text that you miss with pokeballs
@@bigbear514 Oh okay, it's been too long, I don't remember... thanks!
So you mean throwing a pokeball against a legendary in gen 1 would say
"You missed" instead of the pokemon breaking out of the ball?
What happens in later gens?
@@Wissle It'll break out before the ball even does its first jiggle
@@bigbear514 I see! Thanks, kind stranger, I appreciate it!
I discovered your channel yesterday and I couldn't be happier
Thanks for watching! :)
Boy out here calling scizor, ceasar.
Great content! Absolutely love this. Great presentation, concise, and relevant.
The lighthouse is the in-game replacement for Jasmineʼs gym.
Uh, another fun fact about Gen 2: The Mystery Gift method of connecting to another player's game in Gen 2? Yeah, that's present in the Virtual Console release on 3DS, where unlike trading and link battling, Mysterygift in that game does not use the normal wireless communication method on Virtual Console games of Gen 2. No, it makes use of the Infer red communication part of the 3DS, just like it did on the Gameboy. A part of the 3DS that like it was for the Gameboy, barely any games made use of that part of the handheld console.
The Lapras is used NOWHERE else in the Overworld. The Union Cave Lapras just uses the Surf Sprite.
6:19 Ah yes, Ceasar. The big roman lobster.
7:53 Pokémon sTaFf
The Snorlax fact blew my mind. I'm convinced most players caught the Snorlax near Celadon and simply battled or fled the Snorlax on the fishing rod route. Meaning it could absolutely be around the Diglett cave area if it moved around a bit.
Could be wrong, but its genius, if so!
Great video
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It goes back up to the mountain but if it likes to sleep in that area it makes so much sense
@@FreightmareFTWWat
Also, am I the only one that tried to catch both?
I always imagined the blocks in blues gym to be rubble from where the gym was abandoned and poorly maintained
Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
Yeah a video about the battle tower would be so awesome. Loved this video
Great Video Man, I support you in this new project I hope you succeed. Maybe you could do a ranking of every Pokemon game.
I loved playing Silver Version so much
Nice video!
Actually my first battle in the trainer house was against myself with the same pokemon in my party. Every battle after that were the 3 starters. Anybody else experience this?
Blue probably knew that in 14 years there was going to be a movie dedicated to Legos so he warned the Players about it.
Repent and follow Jesus my friend! Repenting doesn't mean confessing your sins to others, but to stop doing them altogether. Belief in Messiah alone is not enough to get you into heaven, you must become a new creation and be born again by responding to the Holy Spirit. - Matthew 7:21-23, Revelation 3:15-16 cf. Hebrews 10:26-29. Pay close attention to your thoughts and how you respond to your inner monologue because it has a greater impact than you think. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life, and do all that you can to follow His ways.
@@FreightmareFTWagreed but religion really has nothing to do with all of this.
Also that comment was a Joke.
Silver was my first Pokémon game. The kanto being incomplete bothered me so bad as a kid. So much so I got blue soon after silver.
The Lapras sprite isn't in the overworld tho, the union cave one only uses the surfing sprite for its Lapras
I can’t believe people didn’t know about magnemite having metal coat. I would always try and get it and then give up after catching a bunch of magnemite but it worked out because magneton kicks ass
A pokemon with STEAL could do the job, right?
Edit: I meant THIEF.
@@MismiMan I was playing on gameboy so I didn’t have abilities. Hgss was a little more forgiving lol
@@googaboogaloo sorry, I meant THIEF. It is even a TM. And even some pokemon learn it on they own, right?
I didn't mean to play on other than a Game Boy :3 just wondering if that could help instead of catching Pokemon. No gameshark nor resetting. Also, not emulators.
@@MismiMan I never even thought about that lol. Considering when I played silver I had a meowth too and I think they learn that by level up (I could be wrong)
@@googaboogaloo now you mention Meowth, I've been tempted to catch 6 Meowth and level'em up to 100, maybe evolve'em to Persian. I just want them to have PAY DAY. Make them fight until they have no PP, against some pokemon with high DEF, HP and recovery skills. To get TONS of money wahaha.
But, wouldn't it be pokemon abuse? XD
I think the Brick Piece item is used to evolve Eevee to a Ghost type
Bonk
When I was a kid, I thought Porygon was another Eeveelution, since it has a similar cry to Vaporeon, its name ends with - on, like Jolteon, Flareon, and Vaporeon, and its entry came immediately after them.
Yeah, I think I thought that the Leaf Stone turned Eevee into Porygon when I was a kid. Always confused me that the Leaf Stone didn’t do anything to them!
@@LuwiigiMaster I actually thought this too a really long time ago.
Jedno z top videí jaké jsem kdy na CZcams viděl. Zdraví Nogy. :)
Whoa, didn’t realize this was Thesmithplays! Glad these videos are doing well!
Loved seeing my old mystery gift video featured here! Loved the video man, just getting back into Pokémon these days.
Nice to see more prototype data is found
NB blocks were amazing!
They actually put N&B blocks in Mario Land 2, so makes sense
Way back we didn't have Link Cable so we use the infrared to test our teams with my friends.
Repent and follow Jesus my friend! Repenting doesn't mean confessing your sins to others, but to stop doing them altogether. Belief in Messiah alone is not enough to get you into heaven, you must become a new creation and be born again by responding to the Holy Spirit. - Matthew 7:21-23, Revelation 3:15-16 cf. Hebrews 10:26-29. Pay close attention to your thoughts and how you respond to your inner monologue because it has a greater impact than you think. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life, and do all that you can to follow His ways.
Random thought about the safari zone. Why is ok to be there with no pokemon and equipped with rocks to defend yourself, but at the start of every game you're not able to enter grass with no pokemon lol.
I know right.
You don't have any rocks either
Great video, interesting secrets, anyways, keep it up!
I am surprised that you had an entire section about the odd to rare items that Kanto Pokémon hold and didn't bring up the Lightball that's carried specifically by the Partner Pikachu from Pokémon Yellow. Especially as that's the only way to aquire this item in the Game at all.
Nope, there's one more way to get one. Swipe it from Red's Pikachu. He's got one boosting it's stats. Use Thief on his Pikachu and you have an extra light ball.
@@PosthumanHeresy That's only in the remakes though, isn't it?
@@PosthumanHeresy Not in GSC.
Love your channel bro
I actually didn't know that about Whitney's gym, that is cool as hell
4:44 an adorable GOLD TROPHY
Since it wasn't covered in the video, the reason _why_ gender is tied to attack in gen 2 is because the attack DV was an easy value to tie to the new stat while preserving trade compatibility with gen 1. It only applies to the attack stat, so special attackers are safe from the mess if a bit harder to get a read on as a result.
That belly drum bug is really helpful 😱
What you might've forgotten is that he probably only keeps fully evolved pokemon since he prefers strong ones and them being battle ready, dropping the number even more.
9:58 of course the walking wake comes in and either breaks cannon or destroys this hypothesis.
Ohh I wish I knew the metal coat thing sooner, it always bothered me to choose between Steelix and Scizor. Pretty interesting facts.
From what I remember, there's a lego-like zone in Super Mario Land 2 as well, so now I'm wondering if it's also an N&B Block reference
We knew about Whitney’s gym because most of us that bought Gold/Silver also got the guide book for it and it showed the entire gym layout.
I've never heard anyone pronounce Scizor as Caesar before
2:53 - Mr. Krabs! The front door is MISSING!!!
I remember Mystery Gift from these games. I once got a N64 in the game.
i thought the lego gym was a reference to blue being the new gym leader and it was "under construction" but since he is rarely around progress is slow.
My favorite mystery gift I received was a surfing pikachu doll.
One flaw in Blue owning 224 different Pokémon between the two generations. You said he likely hasn’t been to Johto, but the 224 would definitely include some Johto Pokémon species, as only 145 of the 224 would be Kanto species(legendaries excluded)
Johto pokemon show up in Kanto though. The only way to get Houndour is in Kanto, for example
@@skykrow true, but what about the ones that don’t? The numbers don’t seem to add up to him not knowing about Johto at all.
I was thinking 224 is the number of pokemon after you exclude previous evolutions, but I didn't count
also why people also assume that every pokemon got caught and not simply, you know, evolved? especially the starters
Have you heard of Trading? Canonically that is a thing in-universe that people do.
Gen 2 is my favorite gen since Crystal was the first pokemon game to have pokemon movie before battle and in the pokedex
All those Lego blocks are Raticate coffins.
I at one time owned the first three generation games. Red all the way to Emerald. I miss my yellow and crystal versions.
Super Mario World 2 also has a level featureing N&B blocks.
Another obscure fact is that Teacher Kawakami, from the Battle Tower, went to teach at Shujin Academy.
Caesar lmao Siz-Zor (Scizor) but thank you for all this cool Info!!
I personal believe the Brick Piece was probably meant to be a more common item, and that it would have powered up Fighting Type moves like other Held Items often do. It's likely a reference to brick breaking by martial artists.
I tried getting a metal coat by using thief on magnamite, it took me almost all day, I wouldn't recommend doing it
A Game Genie code can restore the door to the Safari Zone. The trigger is still there, it just doesn't activate because it's not on a door tile.
SO SO SO SO SO GREAT to see people still making curiosity-like videos of GSC < 3
I got the Onix doll from the N64 mystery gift over 14 years ago.
I’m so excited to play crystal again. Just gotta solder a new battery in.
You can clone using the pc. Held item clones too. So more metal coats
I thought i was the only one who thought blue's gym was made of lego.🤣
Imma be honest I had no idea I clicked on a Smith plays vid I just wanted to see gen 2 stuff but it's a nice surprise had no clue he had a pokemon channel
Just started it, welcome!!😎
Wait, if we say that Blue doesn't have Gen 2 starters because he hasn't been to Johto, than the 224 balls/Pokemon thing makes absolutely no sense. How did he get any Johto exclusive Pokemon if he hasn't been to Johto yet?
Gold/Silver and Crystal were good as hell to me LMAO
You make good content.
Thanks!! :)
It's a misconception that Clefable will hold leftovers when traded to a gen 2 game, the only Pokémon that holds leftovers is Snorlax
1:59 -- I actually have never taken any notice of that!!
I had the big Snorlax doll each time but I didn't know you could also get a big Lapras and Onix doll and that although I've played the 2nd gen games countless times.
I wanted to have a Steelix, so I tried to get it on the Route 38. I didn't try much and could get it. By the way, you don't need to catch wild Magnemites if you have a pokemon with steal, with is much more simple. I got my Scyther with it, and he is the next one to become Scizor :P
Thanks i wanna play a gen 2 game now
I thought I knew everything about these games. Never knew about the dolls 👀
It's weird why they haven't used the Lapras-doll sprite for the actual Lapras if they already had it. In-game you will never be able to see that sprite. Only the surfing-sprite in another colour.
Are we certain the floor tiles in Blue's gym are a reference to anything? And not just...an arbitrary tile design used for the sake of design variety?
Good vid
Damn, Miss Kawa-mommy... I mean Kawakami has been a teacher for a long time!
Wild magnetite have a 5 percent chance to hold metal coat.