I paused at 16:00. The guest is getting excited, and I am getting tylenol. I am new to these ideas, and have just been led to Orthodoxy at age 43. It is very hard to clean, think of what I forgot to do in the household and family responsibilities, while being exposed to the truth. Woe. Truly.
Wow, that was deep, but you both sound like two friends talking over a leisurely Sunday lunch table. If you both ever come to my side of the ocean, please know that tea is at 4 but you're welcome any time (and we've got good coffee). 💗
What a concept: we have to BECOME human beings. And if I heard right, mostly that means to grow into "sacrificial love of our neighbor." I need to listen again. But I also plan to get those two little books of Father Behr's. I'm glad that I met him (well, this way) because I will be able to hear his friendly, energetic voice as I read. It makes such a difference. I enjoyed your occasional wry injections of humor too, Sister Vassa. I think you both are warmly human already. This has been a treat for me. (a blessing really, not just a treat) I don't have people nearby who talk like this. I did once. But my world has changed, and political controversy is all around. Thank you, Father John, thank you, Sister Vassa. Prayers from here, Albert
Thank you for this, Fr John and Sr Vassa. I very much like your idea of "becoming human" (I am almost through your book by the same name). That makes a lot of sense for the purpose of this life, especially if one has been deeply pierced by the suffering of this world. I would have liked if you had said more on two things. 1) the mystery of evil and sin, and 2)the mystery of man and woman, male and female, and the division between them because of sin. I feel you just scratched the surface there. My definition of sin is the wound against love. I can't help but feel/believe this tragic wound between man and woman plays out in the family and from there to the rest of the world, indeed the entire cosmos. "We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time." (Rom 8:22)
So thankful for your voices in my own language, asking difficult questions without flinching. If my Orthodoxy became a defensive weapon against the vagaries of human life, I would be a coward and a bigot.
@1:03 they get to the real point. Do we become old and brittle in our lifelong suffering or do we yield to God’s tutelage and grow soft hearts of flesh?
In Serbian we have "Одузимаш ми дах" - you take my breath away, it's exact the same meaning. Actually, It's probably a pop-culture calque from English, but nevertheless everyone knows it
It kind of works in Russian too, "захватить дух" - to conquer/take the spirit (take as one takes a besieged city). Doesn't work the same syntactically, but the image is basically the same
Очень. Очень! ОЧЕНЬ жаль, что Вы больше не выпускаете эпизоды на русском языке. То, что есть пересмотрел когда они были свежими. Потом некоторые видео смотрел с субтитрами, но это сложно и неудобно. Изредка заглядывал на канал в надежде, но надежда угасает....
Was it not generally accepted among the patristics that virginity constitutes a higher ontology, as it reflects the prelapsarian Eden and the angelically asexual eschaton to come? As a patristic scholar, I wonder how Fr Behr justifies deviation from this course.
So does the issue of homosexuality come up or is this always verboten as something to be acted out in Orthodox theological circles. The world at large identifies me on the. Sexual scale as being very homosexual but a distinguished american chinese professor at the Moody Institutes says my sexuality is but one facet of my christianity and i am not even to identify myself as homosexual. Comments pleases
For as long as Christianity frowns on active homosexuals, I think you have every reason to highlight your sexual predisposition. Ideally, and in the eyes of God, that should be of no importance whatsoever and so you should not need to state it, but until then, every time you do point out that you're a homosexual Christian, you're challenging other Christians to recognise how absurd it is that they don't have to state they're heterosexual Christians simply because they're the majority of the Christian population.
Christianity may seem to frown, but does Christ ever do so? Fr John says repeatedly that our starting point for reading scripture, thinking even, is always the cross. Gods love expressed to humanity is *cruciform*. I guess you could see frowns on Jesus face as he prayed in gethsemane and through the passion, as he entered inside of all of our passions. But the point of all the frowning was fulfilled in facing down all of our passions as us. Both speakers have a high regard for monasticism. Sr Vaasa, obviously, Fr John, whose brother is a monk on Mt Athos. I have heard Fr John elsewhere recommend St Athanasius Life of Antony (he mentions Antony here) as a work to be sure to read once every year. Point is, I think, the monastics know how to wrestle the passions. They know so well, that they even succeed in subjugating the Eros passion. They have done this by learning humility, which is according to Fr, ‘the hardest thing to learn’. Why? Because it’s a learning of martyrdom. Grateful for sensible theologians at large in these days 👏🏻🙏❤️
@@sarahangeleski2027 It's not absurd, you are supposed to state any sin to your confessor. If you're a heterosexual man, for instance, and lust about women who are not your wife, you must also state that - in confession, in any case. Other than that, you are not necessarily asked to talk about your sexuality, sinful or not, with other people. I don't talk about all my sins with everyone - it would be great if I had such level of humility, but for the moment, I don't and it's not obligatory to confess your sins to people other than your confessor.
Always love listening to Fr. John. He was here in South Texas last year and really enjoyed spending four days with him, even though my mind was stretched contemplating the things that he had said.😄
Здравствуйте, православные против войны ! Как хочется слушать вас на русском языке,т к я не знаю другие ,к сожалению. Все ваши выступления на русском просмотрела по несколько раз. Прошел ,почти год захватнической войны России в Украине, хотелось бы опять послушать,поделиться вашими встречами с такими же адекватными( очень не хватает!) Людьми .
Have you ever heard the Qur’an the word of God ???czcams.com/video/N807LvOu6nMO/video.htmlur Lord is in heaven He has no father, son, wife, nor mother. God sent many messengers from the first of the messengers Adam and Noah even Moses and Jesus to the last of them Muhammad is a messenger for the Arabs and non-Arabs to a messenger after him is the one who preached Jesus, peace be upon him by his coming after him in the Bible and the Qur’an Our Lord who in heaven all the poor creatures need him our Lord He who is in heaven is the one who deserves worship and no one else. Our Lord who is in heaven is not like anyone in behavior in the universe, Jesus is like the rest of the messengers is not our Lord, Jesus is like the rest of the messengers is not our Lord, how Jesus is our Lord while he sleeps and eats food and urinates and does not know the unseen, then he is crucified as well Circumcision is like children and he was breastfed like children, this is the belief of Muslims in Jesus, the Messenger of our Lord, our beloved, and I, God willing, will send Jesus and all the messengers after death in Heaven, and our Lord and your Lord God, the Muslims ’belief in Jesus is the Messenger of our Lord that our Lord created him with a miracle without a father, and his mother is not a purpose and an adulteress other than what he says The Jews, the Lord breathed the soul into Mary, peace be upon her, then Jesus, peace be upon him, came out and gave him miracles. He is among the Muslims among the best of the messengers. Muslims have only one Quran, unlike the Christians, they have four parts of the Bible, and it differs in its authenticity. Muhammad, the Messenger of God is the last of the messengers. The Lord changed the heavenly laws by him, the law of Moses and Jesus, which was the same before, and he who dies and does not believe in Muhammad will be in Hell after death an evil that was from the Jews or the Christians or others. As the Messenger of our Lord Muhammad told us.czcams.com/video/U6uVYdLC4aI/video.html😘🙏🙏
@@nogodexceptallah2381 Wrong channel bro. I can't even wish you good luck on changing any of us because you should rather spend your time on something that is possible. Also if (after your religion) every christian is in hell, it must actually be a really beautiful place down there.
Fr John Behr’s explanations always seemed too long winded, too academic and vague. I came across Archimandrite George Kapsanis’s even smaller book on repentance. Quoting the Fathers and scripture, he explains this much better and succinctly. “As a result of the illness (adam’s fall), that which is within us according to the image of God, is incapable of activating itself, of Achieving the “likeness of God”. And he quotes the Transfiguration vespers “Transfigured, Thou hast made the nature darkened in Adam radiant once again, O Christ, transforming it into the glory and brilliance of the Godhead. And finally “When we thus become ‘conformed to the image of Christ’ (through repentance) (Romans 8:29) we acquire our real form, our genuine humanity. Boom done. All the long windedness simplified to a few paragraphs. I wish I had heard of Archimandrite George Kapsanis and his simple explanation before wasting all this time trying to get the praxis and meaning out of Behr.
I’m a (Roman) Catholic guy who has just discovered Fr. John Behr over the past couple of weeks. I can’t get enough!
I paused at 16:00. The guest is getting excited, and I am getting tylenol. I am new to these ideas, and have just been led to Orthodoxy at age 43. It is very hard to clean, think of what I forgot to do in the household and family responsibilities, while being exposed to the truth. Woe. Truly.
Ok, so I had to back this up and listen again.
@@kristakimbrell7382 I understand! LOL
You'll get used to that!❤
Wow, that was deep, but you both sound like two friends talking over a leisurely Sunday lunch table. If you both ever come to my side of the ocean, please know that tea is at 4 but you're welcome any time (and we've got good coffee). 💗
What a concept: we have to BECOME human beings. And if I heard right, mostly that means to grow into "sacrificial love of our neighbor." I need to listen again. But I also plan to get those two little books of Father Behr's. I'm glad that I met him (well, this way) because I will be able to hear his friendly, energetic voice as I read. It makes such a difference. I enjoyed your occasional wry injections of humor too, Sister Vassa. I think you both are warmly human already. This has been a treat for me. (a blessing really, not just a treat) I don't have people nearby who talk like this. I did once. But my world has changed, and political controversy is all around. Thank you, Father John, thank you, Sister Vassa. Prayers from here, Albert
Thank you for this, Fr John and Sr Vassa. I very much like your idea of "becoming human" (I am almost through your book by the same name). That makes a lot of sense for the purpose of this life, especially if one has been deeply pierced by the suffering of this world. I would have liked if you had said more on two things. 1) the mystery of evil and sin, and 2)the mystery of man and woman, male and female, and the division between them because of sin. I feel you just scratched the surface there. My definition of sin is the wound against love. I can't help but feel/believe this tragic wound between man and woman plays out in the family and from there to the rest of the world, indeed the entire cosmos. "We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time." (Rom 8:22)
Thank you for this great interview with wonderful Fr John, it opens my mind to many things I was not aware of before, really mind blowing 🌼💜🌷
So great discussion! Love it and thanks!
Such an amazing brain pummeling talk. Could this be my favorite Coffee w Sr. ever???
So thankful for your voices in my own language, asking difficult questions without flinching. If my Orthodoxy became a defensive weapon against the vagaries of human life, I would be a coward and a bigot.
Exceptional guest, fr John....
I so admire and respect Sister Vassa’s brilliance and acuity of thought ! God Bless her.
I never thought that I can rejoice for having been and being “pummeled” .😉
@1:03 they get to the real point. Do we become old and brittle in our lifelong suffering or do we yield to God’s tutelage and grow soft hearts of flesh?
Sr. Vassa, thank you for your wonderful channel. The Lord truly shines through you! I'm so glad to have found your videos ❤🙏
I was so excited to hear your discussion with Fr. John! Loved it! I will miss Fr. John so much!!
14:44 that is so coool!!!!!
40:18 I'm laughing so hard at this XD
If you didn’t write this I couldn’t of laughed with you 😂
@@danielanastuta4972 !!!!!!!!!!d!!!
In Serbian we have "Одузимаш ми дах" - you take my breath away, it's exact the same meaning. Actually, It's probably a pop-culture calque from English, but nevertheless everyone knows it
It kind of works in Russian too, "захватить дух" - to conquer/take the spirit (take as one takes a besieged city). Doesn't work the same syntactically, but the image is basically the same
Everybody here should read, "Jesus: Fallen?" Then you will have answers to all your questions Sister Vassa!
And read "Against Heresies" and the Letters of St. Ignatius of Antioch.
Очень. Очень! ОЧЕНЬ жаль, что Вы больше не выпускаете эпизоды на русском языке.
То, что есть пересмотрел когда они были свежими. Потом некоторые видео смотрел с субтитрами, но это сложно и неудобно.
Изредка заглядывал на канал в надежде, но надежда угасает....
If we are not martered in life, do we have to be martered in death to go to heaven?
He said, ‘it’s all martyrea’. If I haven’t learned this by the time of my death, I will learn it at that point. 🙏
So God literally and figuratively does ‘the Rest!’ He does what we cannot makes us alive in Him.1hr 9 min in
Was it not generally accepted among the patristics that virginity constitutes a higher ontology, as it reflects the prelapsarian Eden and the angelically asexual eschaton to come? As a patristic scholar, I wonder how Fr Behr justifies deviation from this course.
So does the issue of homosexuality come up or is this always verboten as something to be acted out in Orthodox theological circles. The world at large identifies me on the. Sexual scale as being very homosexual but a distinguished american chinese professor at the Moody Institutes says my sexuality is but one facet of my christianity and i am not even to identify myself as homosexual. Comments pleases
For as long as Christianity frowns on active homosexuals, I think you have every reason to highlight your sexual predisposition. Ideally, and in the eyes of God, that should be of no importance whatsoever and so you should not need to state it, but until then, every time you do point out that you're a homosexual Christian, you're challenging other Christians to recognise how absurd it is that they don't have to state they're heterosexual Christians simply because they're the majority of the Christian population.
Christianity may seem to frown, but does Christ ever do so? Fr John says repeatedly that our starting point for reading scripture, thinking even, is always the cross. Gods love expressed to humanity is *cruciform*. I guess you could see frowns on Jesus face as he prayed in gethsemane and through the passion, as he entered inside of all of our passions. But the point of all the frowning was fulfilled in facing down all of our passions as us.
Both speakers have a high regard for monasticism. Sr Vaasa, obviously, Fr John, whose brother is a monk on Mt Athos. I have heard Fr John elsewhere recommend St Athanasius Life of Antony (he mentions Antony here) as a work to be sure to read once every year. Point is, I think, the monastics know how to wrestle the passions. They know so well, that they even succeed in subjugating the Eros passion. They have done this by learning humility, which is according to Fr, ‘the hardest thing to learn’. Why? Because it’s a learning of martyrdom.
Grateful for sensible theologians at large in these days 👏🏻🙏❤️
@@sarahangeleski2027 It's not absurd, you are supposed to state any sin to your confessor. If you're a heterosexual man, for instance, and lust about women who are not your wife, you must also state that - in confession, in any case. Other than that, you are not necessarily asked to talk about your sexuality, sinful or not, with other people. I don't talk about all my sins with everyone - it would be great if I had such level of humility, but for the moment, I don't and it's not obligatory to confess your sins to people other than your confessor.
turn to Buddhism.
Always love listening to Fr. John. He was here in South Texas last year and really enjoyed spending four days with him, even though my mind was stretched contemplating the things that he had said.😄
Здравствуйте, православные против войны ! Как хочется слушать вас на русском языке,т к я не знаю другие ,к сожалению. Все ваши выступления на русском просмотрела по несколько раз. Прошел ,почти год захватнической войны России в Украине, хотелось бы опять послушать,поделиться вашими встречами с такими же адекватными( очень не хватает!) Людьми .
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Obtain life through death.......... could be understood by, you fast in order to feel full
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Father John Behr needs to let Sister Vassa speak!
She is letting HIM speak. It’s her channel.
Now, to nap through that first hour 😉
Love his occasional “yeah?” interjection!
Have you ever heard the Qur’an the word of God ???czcams.com/video/N807LvOu6nMO/video.htmlur Lord is in heaven He has no father, son, wife, nor mother. God sent many messengers from the first of the messengers Adam and Noah even Moses and Jesus to the last of them Muhammad is a messenger for the Arabs and non-Arabs to a messenger after him is the one who preached Jesus, peace be upon him by his coming after him in the Bible and the Qur’an Our Lord who in heaven all the poor creatures need him our Lord He who is in heaven is the one who deserves worship and no one else. Our Lord who is in heaven is not like anyone in behavior in the universe, Jesus is like the rest of the messengers is not our Lord, Jesus is like the rest of the messengers is not our Lord, how Jesus is our Lord while he sleeps and eats food and urinates and does not know the unseen, then he is crucified as well Circumcision is like children and he was breastfed like children, this is the belief of Muslims in Jesus, the Messenger of our Lord, our beloved, and I, God willing, will send Jesus and all the messengers after death in Heaven, and our Lord and your Lord God, the Muslims ’belief in Jesus is the Messenger of our Lord that our Lord created him with a miracle without a father, and his mother is not a purpose and an adulteress other than what he says The Jews, the Lord breathed the soul into Mary, peace be upon her, then Jesus, peace be upon him, came out and gave him miracles. He is among the Muslims among the best of the messengers. Muslims have only one Quran, unlike the Christians, they have four parts of the Bible, and it differs in its authenticity. Muhammad, the Messenger of God is the last of the messengers. The Lord changed the heavenly laws by him, the law of Moses and Jesus, which was the same before, and he who dies and does not believe in Muhammad will be in Hell after death an evil that was from the Jews or the Christians or others. As the Messenger of our Lord Muhammad told us.czcams.com/video/U6uVYdLC4aI/video.html😘🙏🙏
@@nogodexceptallah2381 Wrong channel bro. I can't even wish you good luck on changing any of us because you should rather spend your time on something that is possible. Also if (after your religion) every christian is in hell, it must actually be a really beautiful place down there.
Do not multitask while attempting to grasp this.
Fr John Behr’s explanations always seemed too long winded, too academic and vague. I came across Archimandrite George Kapsanis’s even smaller book on repentance. Quoting the Fathers and scripture, he explains this much better and succinctly. “As a result of the illness (adam’s fall), that which is within us according to the image of God, is incapable of activating itself, of Achieving the “likeness of God”. And he quotes the Transfiguration vespers “Transfigured, Thou hast made the nature darkened in Adam radiant once again, O Christ, transforming it into the glory and brilliance of the Godhead.
And finally “When we thus become ‘conformed to the image of Christ’ (through repentance) (Romans 8:29) we acquire our real form, our genuine humanity.
Boom done. All the long windedness simplified to a few paragraphs.
I wish I had heard of Archimandrite George Kapsanis and his simple explanation before wasting all this time trying to get the praxis and meaning out of Behr.
Christian obsessions with gender, sex, and sexuality. So tired of this. It’s caused so much suffering and agony for so many people.
Ugh. Gender. What junk.
It’s 3 years later, u still LARPing?
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