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- čas přidán 24. 06. 2023
- How can you get your photos to stand out in a seemingly endless flood of images?
Take a leaf from Seth Godin's Book - that's how.
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If only one person takes notice of a photo and it makes an impact, this photograph is perfect for me. As I began my workshop at work with mentaly desabled people, if gave me more joy than featuring in a National Geographic cover cos I receive an amout and a quality of joy for the pics they take and we share that can't be compared with proud or satisfaction too be recognised by a crowd of "nobodies". Sometimes, the art is more in the eye of the spectator than in the frame. Thanks for all you share with us. Hello from Belgium.
A photographer never knows what another person will like if it never gets seen no matter how remarkable the photograph is. There must be a door to be opened by another person who sees something in your work that he will show it to others in his world.
No, I am sure there are plenty of photographers over the years, who have known in advance that their work will be liked and it will be seen.
Exactly my thoughts while watching this. If you look at social media, there are so many photograpbers who dont have remarkable photos, but they have thousands of likes befause they know how to market themselves on social media. Likewise therr are many who are remarkable, and have tens of likes becauee they dont spend as much time on social media.
How remarkable your photos are, these days, seems to come 2nd to how you market yourself unfortunately.
Main question is: “When you create, who do you create for? The possible audience or yourself?” And there is an answer, but not out of these two:)
Exactly!
This “rant” is always entertaining & insightful. They are making me a better professional not only in photography but in all what I do!
So thank you for putting the time to make these videos 👍🏻
Thank you for watching.
Thank you for watching
I'm glad for a video encouraging experimentation. Now that I want to sell my work, I keep hearing photographers saying you have to develop brand consistency and a recognizable photographic voice to have credibility and for people to hire you or buy your work. I find I have tremendous resistance to doing that. I find many types of beauty in many types of things, and they can't all be photographed the same way. Some vloggers even go so far as to say you should use the same focal length all the time (?1) which would take all the fun right out of it for me. Ugh. The battle between what is "marketable" and getting to be an artist wages on!
A concept I like to try to apply is to create certain images that speak directly to the observer's mind in a way that bypasses the intellectual process. That way, the viewer gets pure sensory data first, and intellectual response afterwards.
whenever i need some inspiration, i just watch a random video on this channel.
That's awesome!
rermarkability is a interesting concept, a lot of the Vietnam War Photographers are striking, and many others across many genres, thought provoking video.
Well, we can all be undiscovered Vivian Maier now.
She was only discoveredby accident after she died 😢😢
I haven't watched a video in a while but I'm glad I did today. I am now charging my battery for my camera to go out and take some pictures. Every time I watch one of your videos I get motivated somehow to get out there and take pictures. You inspire!!! The reason for that, in my opinion, is because you share a lot of other people's work among your own. And you mix them up, it's not just a 1 or 2 photographers, put that next to your nice way of explaining and talking about this art...I'm inspired ! Thank you!
That’s awesome, thanks for watching
I learn a lot from you ... there are few teachers like you anymore ... Thank you and greetings Jarek from Poland
So inspiring... Thanks for the great video.
You are a good teacher !
great video! A channel that actually talks Photography...! What a joy.. Thanks
Wow, thanks!
Hi Alex, What i love about your videos is that you show photos of other photographers, Dim Gunger, Irvine Penn. Also the Anonymous Project, great photos. We sometimes have to get out of our comfort zone, face our fears and doubts. I have some homework to do, to go out and take different photos and challenge myself. Thanks for sharing this positive video.
Thank you for watching
@@ThePhotographicEye No worries your welcome Alex 👍
Love the inclusion of fluffy animals instead of what you really wanted to be able to share! Made me laugh. Well shared insights Alex.
Thanks
I believe a remarkable picture is the one that tells a story or strikes you and then makes you imagine a story behind. Sometimes it's just a narrative construction through the image, rather than a technical masterpierce.
I have learned so much from your videos. You make me think outside the box and out of my comfort zone and that’s what is needed to push ourselves to another level. Please keep doing what your doing
Thank you. Thanks for watching
Am thankful for a sense of direction you awaken, an internal compass you made me aware I’ ve got,
Great topic, i love the discussion.
Remarkable is a good word. If it is remarkable for a certain ethnography then the photograph matters and, in the academy, that is what pushed forward atm. I love this channel as I can always drop a pearl of grumpy wisdom in it :)
Thank you. All the best. 👍📷😎
Thanks, you too!
Hi! I love your content! You actually helped me get back into liking photography. One random thing, sort of a whim of mine: You can record on 1080p and even edit at 1080p but export and upload it at 4k so that youtube compression won't be as strong and we could have an even greater experience. And we could have a better appreciation of the examples you show to us. Thanks and sorry XD
Another great video Alex.
Thank you
Just enjoy the thought provocation...inspiring thank you.
Thanks for watching
It’s insane that there are that many photos uploaded every day. No wonder it’s hard to stand out. Great topic.
Once again, thank you for your thorough and intellectually stimulating discussion. It's nice to watch a CZcams video and walk away feeling more educated as opposed to being merely entertained.
Wow, thank you
Thanks Alex.
Thank you so much for this video. 🙏🏽♥️
You are so welcome!
thank you again, and again
My pleasure!
I really enjoy your philosophical discussions. I am always caught in this space where I am doing a job for someone, or for an organization, and I want to send to them those images I created that were "off brief". The ones where I took artistic license and did something unexpected and unusual. But I can't send those, because that's not what the client requested. Sometimes I'll send one that touches the fringe just a little, hoping that maybe I'll get some feedback telling me "hey this is kinda cool! Do you have anything more like this"?
It allows me to think, even if just for a moment, that my artistic vision has some value. But ultimately the audience generally doesn't get it. I don't know if its because I didn't do it well enough or if its because my vision is simply unappreciated. Either way, I am constrained. And I need to break free! Somehow.
I am like the chaos guy in tv commercials ….. i am more than happy with “tens and tens” of views. I shoot for my entertainment and if others like or view my work that’s just gravy
Make the ordinary, extraordinary.
When I think about it…I do become overwhelmed that my efforts are not going to be seen.
Great advice but I used to photograph old romantic follys and buildings in Ireland as they were slowly taken over by nature, the subject matter was definitely remarkable and very popular with a certain type of audience, but boy they would bore the shit out of me, now I just take photos of generic postcard type scenes that are boring to everyone but I really love taking them. Screw the likes and hearts
Sometimes the quest to be "remarkable" just ends up being a quest for novelty. Right now I think we're well saturated with "remarkable", when sometimes what we want is beauty and capturing something real.
Hello Alex.
You have a very good story and there is a lot of truth in it.
But everything you show as being "different" has already been made.
So many pictures are taken that it becomes almost impossible to be "different".
What you could do is merge certain styles and create something different.
I only make black and white work and a lot of still lifes.
I don't like photographing people.
I did weddings and communicants for a while when we still worked with film, but I didn't like that then.
But now with still lifes, I have regained my joy in photography.
And try to be unique in that (still life).
I researched a lot and found out that there is already so much "unique".
I think that in this day and age with the possibilities that are available, it will be very difficult to make something special.
I love Fan Ho's alarm clock, I can watch it for hours.
And here you are influenced by and it goes in the direction of a copy of Fan Ho.
I hope you understand what I mean.
A very cool video that I watched and listened to with great pleasure.
Antoine.
I like what you say here, and haven't even watched this video yet. Lately I've been really struggling with modern photography. There is so much out there it almost seems pointless to photograph anything. It is pointless if you're determined to be insta-famous. Photography for the sake of fame and fortune is the equivalent in my mind of professional athletes. There is an excellent article in one of the digital companions to Frames magazine that Alex has recommended on this channel that talks about amateur photographers. An amateur by definition is someone who does something simply for the love of that thing. It's so tempting to assume that to legitimize your work you need people to see it and approve of it so to speak. But people in general, particularly on social media are bombarded by so much that they are desensitized to art in a big way. Almost like a junky who has to continually push further to get a fix.
I had an unsplash for a while and recently deleted it completely because I finally realized I'm not looking for approval from anyone. I want to make photographs that I want to make. Simple as that, no guidelines, no curating, no websites that are using the photographs I create to further their particular agenda. I'll never have any comercial success because what I create doesn't fit into the corporate mold. Nor do I want any, because it would make photography a job, and I already have a job.
That's not to say that I think it's wrong to be a professional photographer, it's not and I do not. But professional photographers (those that do it for a living) know exactly what they're doing. They are marketing a product, and they need it to sell. So they will use every skill and resource they can to make that happen.
I haven't landed on exactly what I'm going to do, I do want people to see some of my photographs, but I don't want what they think of them to influence what I create.
I started a Flickr account after closing unsplash just to easily share photos with they few people I send them to. But I'm even considering something else because Flickr has a similar vibe to all the other sites.
What I want to do most I think is to start a group for amateurs like me, so that we can discuss and share photography in a limited sense. And just enjoy it together without any of the baggage that comes with all of the other social sites.
@@valueforvalue76 This is exactly what I meant to say, my friend. Thank you very much for this reaction.
Thank you for watching
@@valueforvalue76👏🏻 You successfully put into words what I've been feeling myself through years and years of photography.
Agreed. As a newbie I don’t see myself creating something great. Even If I did, no one would even know since I don’t have a massive following. So who’s to say it’s even a great photo?😂
Great video Alex. You showed Vee Speers, I had never heard of her until you did a video of her. We're likely to acquire one of her prints soon. I personally blame you😁.
😂. Thank you for watching
In my opinion the question is: am I a photographer of my or others people liking? If for me than I’ll do what I’m pleased with, regardless of what others might think about it, but than my ranking will be low. Otherwise I’d be fishing for likes, probably to monetize my images, an probably be more successful. To simple? Maybe, but in the end it is what it is. I venture to say that if you do what pleases you, you won’t be replaced by AI so quickly. ;-)
I deleted instagram and fb
I as well...
Me too... don't miss it one bit.
Same. More than 3 years ago.
Interesting that you mention Sugimoto, as he was mentioned in my current read, Goeff Dyer's The Ongoing Moment (the title alone should pique the interest of any photographer) as an example of depicting the passage of time. Exploring concepts like that is more likely to produce significant work than trying (almost always unsuccessfully) to pander to an audience. The best art is almost always passion-driven and done to please the artist. If it happens to resonate with others, that's gravy. As you intimate, the best artists are genre-agnostic. "Staying in your lane" ultimately becomes boring.
I enjoyed your talk with Eric Mencher, but on balance, I think cameras in every phone has proven to be a net detriment--we're inundated with a tsunami of mediocre images (generally technically acceptable but poorly-composed images of banal subjects) with barely a ripple of what might pass for art. That makes it that much harder for the "good stuff" to stand out from the clutter. If a dedicated camera were required to produce photographs, the quality/quantity ratio would be vastly different.
The Ongoing Moment is a great book! Another one of his books See/Saw is also fantastic.
@@willstith1 Thanks--I'll have to add that one to the (lengthy) queue as well. Most of the photo-related books in my library are more philosophically- (rather than technically-) based (e.g. Susan Sontag's On Photography), although some combine both (e.g., those by Michael Freeman, Bruce Barnbaum, and of course Ansel). I consider these required reading for anyone for whom the camera is an artistic tool.
No disrespect but that's a trope, as old as the artform itself; in fact, as old as perception and it's meaningful expression. As TPE illuminated in his recent review of the Nostalgic Anonymous Project, visual art is about the fundamentals of perception, personal expression beyond personal emotional reality; it's not about the kit. A pin hole camera can accomplish the ultimate goal as well as an a7siii or the full frame of your preference. Perhaps you could add some Freeman Patterson to your reading list?
To paraphrase Eugene Delacroix, the French painter, what inspired [genius] work is not new ideas but what has already been said is not enough.
CZcams flagged those images?! Yes they were gory and bizarre but some of the stuff this platform deems acceptable vs what it doesn’t is truly remarkable 😅
Don't get me started on CZcams's weird content filter...
Standing still or resting on your laurels as the expressions go are creative suicide. One should be experimenting even if the experiments are 'failures', you will learn something from the process.
I really enjoy your videos, I hate when they end. Sometimes I feel they end abruptly. Maybe give us some moments to feel that the video is coming to an end. A moment to think about the last thing you say.
Thank you for this comment. Something for me to think about. ☺️
Please yourself first, the rest will come.
I agree but partially (I think this video is very helpful to achieve Instagram followers )
Artists like Alec Soth or Guido Guidi do not frequently resort to originality
or technical tricks. I think it's not the anecdote that makes the photo different
Don't push yourself as per say, "rather express yourself". Alex het ek dit reg gesê?
My issue is that I'm not sure what I want people to notice. So I've even taken down my website. I've spent far more time trying to cull rejects than pick out the best shots which I now realise is the wrong way to go about it. But I have a feeling most of my decent photos are just "nice" well composed images but nothing "remarkable."
Most photographers only have 2 or 3 remarkable photos. If you have 1, you're already ahead of most! Then build your portfolio from there.
How do I make the ordinary, extraordinary, that's a question I ask myself, once I learn to capture the ordinary, I want to be able to make extraordinary. I like the phrase, "I dream my paintings and I paint my dreams." If you look at Andy Warhol, he takes the mundane and makes it in some cases more mundane and then it becomes extraordinary.
For example testing out some exposures and a new lens, I fully intended to delete them images, until I saw them on a large screen, now I entered them into a competition.
I feel like my work is vaguely different but I just don't know where to find my audience :(
One thing about remarkable photos is that it's a perception of how it was done.
Sometimes a photo's remarkability disappears with "Oh, that's how they did it?"
If you take photo's to please others you will end up pleasing no one including yourself because of the cynicism.
Since we are all DIFFERENT, I guess it's enough to be youself. Otherwise it's just a lie and sooner or later people will realize it.
Look what I've done.
I blame fridge magnets.😊
Who are these people?
As a wedding photographer for 30 years+ I do hope this isn't true////
Disagree about Shock value not being important. Damian Hirst was quoted as saying he came from the school with the intention of shocking viewers. The more shock the better. Tracey Emin the same. That was their philosophy. Not being Remarkable.
I once knew a person that liked Dali rather than Rubens!, There is no straight answer, remember the old adage ''Beauty is in the eye of the beholder'' and you can only hope
that the internet community gets to see your work, and in very large numbers, so it
really is a ''Number's'' game.
Couldn't care less about putting my images out there, it will just become a journey of negativity. I know what I like to "snap" and I've seen an improvement over the years. I'm a happy bunny. Millions of images are better than mine, so what, who cares.
Everything you talk of suggests that photographers want to be recognised, but why? I mean if you're taking photographs to win competitions with images that you don't personally like, but you know will appeal to others there really doesn't seem much point other than the pat on the back you might get for winning a competition. What about just taking photographs purely for yourself, forgetting whether anyone likes them or not. Nobody will care about the first picture of your new born child, but it might mean the world to you. I think too much emphasis is put on trying to be someone through photography. Sod that, just shoot for yourself. I've been at it for the better part of 13 years and I only have one photograph I care about, nobody else can appreciate that image like I do, but that matters not one jot to me.
take risks make statements, then American social media google, facebook, instagram and youtube canceles you, and no one sees you so bee safe and boring, great video but even you had to edit this video because America censored you, ☹
Reminds me of dark comedy movie, “Art School Confidential”. A remarkable movie.
Peter I will certainly be the first to admit that Americans are more weirdly prudish about many things than most of the rest of the world (and that is reflected in some of the online posting rules people like you rightly detest). But Google / FB / Insta aren't "America". They are, rather, trying to push us Americans around, along with everyone else. They are a bunch of technocrats trying very hard to tell other people what they want them to think. We notice it here too, when our own families don't see our posts and family updates but see all the bots and rage posters instead, then ask why they never hear from us. We're all being manipulated.
What about just taking PROPER photojournalism - I am sick of looking at oh so nice landscape pictures of sunsets.
I find your thoughts and criticism highly subjective. Martin Parr for one has built a huge body of work. Consistent work. No one cares about your personal opinions.
@danielfeatherstone674 Say what? We come here precisely because we *want* to hear Alex's personal opinions and care about them, Shirley? Nobody says we have to agree, but we should always listen, then form our own opinions based on what we hear and what we know. If you really don't care don't let the door hit you on the way out.
@@veivoli Subjective ranting. Put your own work up and then judge
@@danielfeatherstone674 Settle down. You clearly deserve to be ignored, but I can't let your reply pass without comment. My "work" is irrelevant.
I was reacting to your statement to Alex: "No one cares about your personal opinions". I, for one and I suspect most of the others with you clearly excluded, come here to hear his opinions.