Second viewing really turns this scene from something kinda sweet into something very sick and twisted. She knows damn well who Rachel was, or that Alfred has left. What one assumed was her innocent questions are clearly being calculated to hurt him emotionally.
"When I was a child, you know, growing up with the League of Shadows, we had almost nothing. And on the nights when we had a fire, usually from the cities we were decimating, we felt very rich indeed....."
No way. Bruce was already emotional hurt a lot that day to even be remotely confident in combat. The trauma of losing Alfred, what Alfred said about Rachel forsaking her promise to Bruce, losing his company - all these things being torn away from him. More likely, he felt somewhat soothed from having sex with Talia.
Things to consider. 1 Talia's suddend appearance at the mansion was a calculated move cuz she was in on the Bane setup later that night. 2 Talia knew that Wayne's love, Rachael, died and wanted to rub it in more by asking him who she was. 3 Slept with Bruce, hoping that it would weaken him before the fight. 4 Mentioned that they could take her plane and go anywhere they wanted. Probably the same plane that we saw early in the film and was used to carry Bruce to the pit. nuances .
To be honest, Bane is more like a father figure to her. I would like to think that not all men only care for women for sex. You ask me, it really humbles Bane's character.
Marian Cotillard was hot in Dark Knight Rises. Talia al Ghul planned her revenge for 8 years - she adopted the alias Miranda Tate so she could get close to Bruce Wayne. Bruce can gain her trust and confidence and allow her to take control of the company and to kill him.
Love the use of the very subtle editing to show the scar on her back. To an unsuspecting viewer, it signifies that Miranda has not always had a pampered, wealthy lifestyle (which goes with the dialogue). To a very keen-eyed viewer, they'd notice that it is the shape of the League of Shadows brand instrument used by the Ra's Al Ghul decoy in Batman Begins. Great symbolic Easter egg.
Watching this seeing what everyone watched during that 10 year stretch these movies came out is nuts. Reading the comments I see this movie was like ecstasy for some people
I love how Chris Nolan made the story in such a way, that when you see the film for the second time, you think 'aaaaaaah! I get it >_>' "I've made a few mistakes myself." "More than a few......"
Imagine if they put Katie Holmes face in the Rachel Dawes picture, I think it would've been a bit more emotional. And her acting in the fight for a better Gotham city seemed more stronger.
I agree with respect to The Dark Knight Trilogy, but as to all Nolan films I would say that there was real heartbreaking chemistry between Cobb and Mal in Inception.
I know but he spends the movie training and rising to save the city which he thought would be by defeating Bane. That's what he was training for. He hardly had to do any training during the movie to defeat Talia, just piloting expertise that may or may not have been impacted by the autopilot.
JokerDenny, how did you manage to upload these clips, when the film doesn't come out on DVD til this December? Till u uploaded these, the only clips i saw were leaked and as though they were recorded on a camera in a cinema.
Also, she knows he's Batman so I doubt she would expect him to abondon his city and go with her on a plane somewhere while Bane is still present in the city to finish his plans.
Since Bane was excommunicated, it's likely that he wanted to redeem himself and prove worthy of being a member of the League of Shadows. A good chunk of the plans were likely Bane's not Talia's. The whole giving Gotham hope and poisoning their souls thing was likely Bane's plan because it connects to what he learned in the Pit. Plus the fact that Bane refused to listen to Talia's plea about not killing Batman shows that he is his own man and is not just and obedient dog.
Actually, I feel that Miranda was the one that was the most unneeded. Catwoman had a far bigger purpose because she was the one who got him out of his room, led him to Bane with her betrayal and thus leading to Bruce's redemption and she served as a valuable ally in the final battle. Plus she also serves as a potential future for Bruce after his retirement. Miranda's only purpose was for shock value as a secondary villain and to tie the movie with Batman Begins, which was unneeded in my opinion.
Katie Holmes had the choice of doing the Dark Knight, or another movie (I don't recall which one, but it was one of those shitty romantic comedy ones). It's her fucking loss, for missing out on this epic trilogy. You can't blame Nolan for this.
good question. As per the comic books, they have an "on again/off again" relationship.. and Ra's al Ghul's hope was that Talia and Bruce would hook up longterm.
Another example of a so called "flaw" that has no basis. This scene made total sense. Miranda caught Bruce at his most vulnerable state (he just lost everything), and he was leaving himself in her arms in more ways than one. It also makes sense from Miranda's point of view when you learn more about her intentions later in the movie. People who criticize this movie should really watch it again and try paying attention.
I don't get why Talia slept with Bruce - she didn't really gain anything from it, and it was nothing to do with her and Bane's overall plan. It would make more sense if she genuinely had feelings for him, but the ending makes it pretty clear that this is not the case.
In the comics, there was kind of a love-hate relationship between Bruce and Talia, there was part of her who followed her father but also had a soft spot for Bruce. Same with Bruce for that matter, he didn't necessarily trust her but he also showed a soft spot towards her. I always viewed this scene as kind of displaying that side Talia. I don't know what Nolan's intentions were for this scene but I always felt that way about this scene. I always felt that Talia, in a way, liked Bruce in the Dark Knight Rises. She could have revealed herself long before she actually did in the movie but only did it at the end when Bane was in the most danger.
at 1;54.. that was a clear giveaway, and if I had been paying ANY attention, I would have figured it out real quickly that Miranda was indeed Talia after all.
Bruce's silence when Miranda asks him about Rachel is absolutely heartbreaking.
Second viewing really turns this scene from something kinda sweet into something very sick and twisted. She knows damn well who Rachel was, or that Alfred has left. What one assumed was her innocent questions are clearly being calculated to hurt him emotionally.
Bane: Friendzoned
Batman: Gets to sleep with her on the first date.
I think you are wrong...bane was like a father to Miranda. He never was a lover.
He probably hasn’t had sex In those entire
8 years! 😩😰😬
Bane was like her father. It's more like a bane broke Bruce's back because he slept with his daughter
to attack on a emotional level when bruce wayne is in such a situation...well played and totally necessary in the plot
And 10 years later... Hello Damian 😬
Monserrat Poot lol only comic fans know that
Im no expert but im pretty sure it only takes 9 months.
@@spencer9093 Damian is ten when batman finds out
She is dead
She tamed his monster, with her mouth
jazzykoenig really dud BadMan referent
And two other places. In an order that would surprise you.
Batman had been holding that load in for about 8 months
You mean 8 years
@@therealestg9 Fr 😂
"When I was a child, you know, growing up with the League of Shadows, we had almost nothing. And on the nights when we had a fire, usually from the cities we were decimating, we felt very rich indeed....."
Lol perfect
No way. Bruce was already emotional hurt a lot that day to even be remotely confident in combat. The trauma of losing Alfred, what Alfred said about Rachel forsaking her promise to Bruce, losing his company - all these things being torn away from him. More likely, he felt somewhat soothed from having sex with Talia.
"Suffering builds character" - The key line in the entire movie imo
and thats why Bane Broke him lol
Come on man Bane Was her Her friend and partner he would’ve known about what Thalía was going to do
@@jagr15037 joke
Batman : Aaaaaaand that's how I met your mother Damian
Damian : ...............
poor Damian ^^
Oga Beelze the ten commandments
She robbed him of testosterone which may have helped in the fight.
Good point! I missed that shes a smart woman lol🤦♀️
O céu bem
😂😂
Ya man that's not funny but its even biologically true.
Ohh boy😂😂
this background music score is more than simple music..just resonates deeply
10 years later:
Bruce: "And that, Damian, is how I met your mother."
Damian: 0_o
Thank you, finally someone else who truly understands the Batman.
Things to consider.
1 Talia's suddend appearance at the mansion was a calculated move cuz she was in on the Bane setup later that night.
2 Talia knew that Wayne's love, Rachael, died and wanted to rub it in more by asking him who she was.
3 Slept with Bruce, hoping that it would weaken him before the fight.
4 Mentioned that they could take her plane and go anywhere they wanted. Probably the same plane that we saw early in the film and was used to carry Bruce to the pit.
nuances .
To be honest, Bane is more like a father figure to her. I would like to think that not all men only care for women for sex. You ask me, it really humbles Bane's character.
Marian Cotillard was hot in Dark Knight Rises. Talia al Ghul planned her revenge for 8 years - she adopted the alias Miranda Tate so she could get close to Bruce Wayne. Bruce can gain her trust and confidence and allow her to take control of the company and to kill him.
No shit Sherlock
Love the use of the very subtle editing to show the scar on her back. To an unsuspecting viewer, it signifies that Miranda has not always had a pampered, wealthy lifestyle (which goes with the dialogue). To a very keen-eyed viewer, they'd notice that it is the shape of the League of Shadows brand instrument used by the Ra's Al Ghul decoy in Batman Begins. Great symbolic Easter egg.
Really seals in the flavor!
Watching this seeing what everyone watched during that 10 year stretch these movies came out is nuts. Reading the comments I see this movie was like ecstasy for some people
How on earth did Christain Bale not get People sexiest man alive!!
"Miranda Visits Wayne" from the Complete Score. But on the OST, it's "On Thin Ice", which repeats several times in the first half of TDKR.
I like him better with selina
Amy Anner agreed
Amy Anner no miranda is a queen
Miranda Tate fuck no she’s not good looking.
Rent My Ego I don’t know if you’re talking about Anne Hathaway or Marion cotillard but either way you’re wrong
I love how Chris Nolan made the story in such a way, that when you see the film for the second time, you think 'aaaaaaah! I get it >_>'
"I've made a few mistakes myself."
"More than a few......"
Imagine if they put Katie Holmes face in the Rachel Dawes picture, I think it would've been a bit more emotional. And her acting in the fight for a better Gotham city seemed more stronger.
Because when he didn't kiss Rachel back in the first one, he lost her
Every chick loves when "Dark Knight Rises"🤣
god it really is the entire cast of inception minus leo, and i love it.
I agree with respect to The Dark Knight Trilogy, but as to all Nolan films I would say that there was real heartbreaking chemistry between Cobb and Mal in Inception.
it was a cruel ploy
Did Miranda really meant the words about taking plane and leaving thing or she was just testing Bruce that he goes after bane or not?
Good question
That was a cruel ploy? Sign me up for another!
Ass mouth vag
Amazing scene. underrated.
Who else saw "Public Enemies", (which also co-starred Bale and Cotillard) the year before this came out?
WilcoBravoSchnauzer I was thinking of that movie too😂
Actually, Public Enemies came out three years before DKR
I honestly wish Rachel didn't die. Bruce loved her so much! That's the woman he wanted a life with.
0:45 Who is this?
Jake Gyllenhaal´s sister.
Yep :-P
No, Marrion
mysterio's sister
"Suffering builds character." Get it folks? She's talking not only about him, but herself. Wink*
when Miranda really love Bruce when she said"we leave tonight take my plane go anywhere we want" or it just for show
Show
Where did you get this and your other clips in such good quality?
She is such a back stabber...
Jay Skrine side stabber actually
Jay Skrine w
Jay Skrine wager
He stabbed her first… with his dick
woah he stabbed her for real
How I wish I was that girl who did he kissed.
Ikr
The only one He Kissed 😎😎😏
me too
I know but he spends the movie training and rising to save the city which he thought would be by defeating Bane. That's what he was training for. He hardly had to do any training during the movie to defeat Talia, just piloting expertise that may or may not have been impacted by the autopilot.
I think he stayerd with her not out of love but because of the emptiness he felt because Miranda reminded Rachel.
for some weird reason i would have prefer to watch this romance unfold instead with catwoman besides she did bear a child with him
This scene reminds me so much of Deus Ex when you go to the DuClare Chateau.
Damn does Bruce even have the key to his place 0:04
Amen to that! My favorite French actresses are Marion Cotillard and Clemence Posey.
I always laughed at 2:26 because I thought Bruce Wayne just knocked her out silly lol.
Can someone tell me what that white bird is on the desk?/ table next to the pictures
JokerDenny, how did you manage to upload these clips, when the film doesn't come out on DVD til this December? Till u uploaded these, the only clips i saw were leaked and as though they were recorded on a camera in a cinema.
Bale is a lucky bastard
silvermoonredmoon bale is too lucky because he had marion cotillard in this film
Miranda Tate bro he had Anne Hathaway
What's this theme on the ost?
Also, she knows he's Batman so I doubt she would expect him to abondon his city and go with her on a plane somewhere while Bane is still present in the city to finish his plans.
That I do know and if I recall they also had a child in the comics.
2:25 - 2:27 Damn, Batman is fast when it comes to Woman!
He is almost like wolverine
lmaooooo!!! +1 for this one!!!
Good point.
Since Bane was excommunicated, it's likely that he wanted to redeem himself and prove worthy of being a member of the League of Shadows. A good chunk of the plans were likely Bane's not Talia's. The whole giving Gotham hope and poisoning their souls thing was likely Bane's plan because it connects to what he learned in the Pit. Plus the fact that Bane refused to listen to Talia's plea about not killing Batman shows that he is his own man and is not just and obedient dog.
Actually, I feel that Miranda was the one that was the most unneeded. Catwoman had a far bigger purpose because she was the one who got him out of his room, led him to Bane with her betrayal and thus leading to Bruce's redemption and she served as a valuable ally in the final battle. Plus she also serves as a potential future for Bruce after his retirement. Miranda's only purpose was for shock value as a secondary villain and to tie the movie with Batman Begins, which was unneeded in my opinion.
Right.
Bane: *watching them from a window* I will allow you to plow her like a field. Then, I will break you.
They are impressive.
What is the soundtrack for this scene?
Went to read comments. Only find David Jones.
I love you son.
Batsex. (both how it reads and how it sounds)
This might be a a stupid question considering what happens later in the film, but 1 has to wonder if she really had any love for him?
Why is it age restricted
So where's Damian?
Damian appears in May this year :)
Doesnt exist
My thoughts exactly.
In the Playboy Magazine back in summer.
Talia just couldn't resist. And this was how little Damian Wayne was conceived.
DVD and BluRay got leaked on the 15th.
rocky:ya but I really like this girl ya know
Bane had reasons as well, I had already mentioned them in my previous first 3 replies.
When I was little watching this I was asking my mother when I saw this scene “I’m watching a Batman movie right?”
Yes I thought that and I was like 7 when this movie came out
Damn Straight.
the Dark Knight Rises ........... O.O
Katie Holmes had the choice of doing the Dark Knight, or another movie (I don't recall which one, but it was one of those shitty romantic comedy ones). It's her fucking loss, for missing out on this epic trilogy. You can't blame Nolan for this.
A is for Alfred. B is for bats
the scar on her back looks like the star trek logo lol
Goddamn right he is.
good question. As per the comic books, they have an "on again/off again" relationship.. and Ra's al Ghul's hope was that Talia and Bruce would hook up longterm.
That I agree bro. French women are so hot!
Whats the soundtrack under this?
Hahahah bruce now I am here
not everyone's as strong as bruce wayne
Damian wayne come to this world
Another example of a so called "flaw" that has no basis. This scene made total sense. Miranda caught Bruce at his most vulnerable state (he just lost everything), and he was leaving himself in her arms in more ways than one. It also makes sense from Miranda's point of view when you learn more about her intentions later in the movie. People who criticize this movie should really watch it again and try paying attention.
I don't get why Talia slept with Bruce - she didn't really gain anything from it, and it was nothing to do with her and Bane's overall plan. It would make more sense if she genuinely had feelings for him, but the ending makes it pretty clear that this is not the case.
she did it so Bruce let's her take over his company instead of Daggett.
Yeah but that was already agreed before this scene
***** So sleep with the guy you've hated and have plotted to destroy for 8 years or so?
In the comics, there was kind of a love-hate relationship between Bruce and Talia, there was part of her who followed her father but also had a soft spot for Bruce. Same with Bruce for that matter, he didn't necessarily trust her but he also showed a soft spot towards her. I always viewed this scene as kind of displaying that side Talia. I don't know what Nolan's intentions were for this scene but I always felt that way about this scene.
I always felt that Talia, in a way, liked Bruce in the Dark Knight Rises. She could have revealed herself long before she actually did in the movie but only did it at the end when Bane was in the most danger.
Because she had Damian wayne
hes climbin in your window
He threw the dee down.
at 1;54.. that was a clear giveaway, and if I had been paying ANY attention, I would have figured it out real quickly that Miranda was indeed Talia after all.
Why was this video flagged?
What is the song playing right at the beginning of the clip?
Austin Porlier on thin ice
well, they did say that love sometimes does hurt, right?
And that's how Damien was born. LOL
Not even a smart man like Bruce could withstand the coils of a Viper!
Damian being made haha
"Miranda Tate was a smokescreen to conceal his my true identity. My name is... Talia". My nod to Khan in Star Trek: Into Darkness.