Kearney, Williams & Jones pick the World Cup winner!
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2023
- France? Ireland? South Africa? New Zealand? Wales?
Rob Kearney, Matt Williams and Alun Wyn Jones pick their World Cup winner!
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Congrats Jones on picking the Springboks to win the World Cup final.
3 months later and Alun Wyn Jones has proven to be the only one with a goddamned clue.
Getting a prediction right/ wing didn't mean you do/ dunt know anything
Back here after the final and it’s like Alun-Wyn Jones saw the future
Alun Wyn is brilliant addition to the panel delighted to hear competent fresh view..👏👏
But he's just made an enemy of Matt Williams lol. Anyone who backs South Africa is an instant enemy.
Jones saying a lot has been said about the springboks 7-1 split infront of Williams is gold
I swear these Northern Hemisphere blokes are so delusional with their predictions, not even a mention of SA winning. Props to Jones for his grounded response. He's played against this team, he knows how good they are and how much better they've become.
Williams is a wallaby
Jones called it👏🏽
AW Jones is going to be a great pundit, intelligent and well thought out contributions.
Great respect for the man. Love from South Africa 🇿🇦.
Respect #🇿🇦
I don't have the SA flag lol, but I agree with the two above. Much respect from SA.
South Africa is taking the World Cup again, finish and klaar! 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
I called it and it has become a fact 💯😎
You got it right mate 🎉
Danko
ALLAN WAS ON PIONT .. WELL DONE!! BOKKE !!
Same B.S. was said after the All Blacks beat the Springboks in the opening of the 2019 World Cup, only for the Boks going on to win the Workd Cup. Realistically, any one of 5 teams can win on any given day…
Agree. Even though France won, my opinion that they can still be beat at home hasn't changed a bit.
As a South African I do agree that Ireland And France are very good but after the Boks demolished the All Blacks I few weeks ago I just feel it is our world cup again. Our sqaud depth is amazing and Rassie Erasmus has the biggest rugby brain in the world.
Probably up there as favourite but please less of arrogance great team but swear no other has to turn up and there's plenty of good managers
I agree with everything you said except your comment about Erasmus. Galthié is the biggest rugby brain for me.
One good performance in a warm up game, it was very impressive, but they haven't proved the case yet
France is playing home and last game against the bocks was won by the french...france beat the all black yesterday without really going top gear...
Thé boks demolished a NZ team which hadn't played for 1 month and who played at 14 for the majority of the game....and in a warm up game, not a RWC game.
Without forgetting that this SA got easily dispatched by NZ in the last RC
Allen you are the man!!!!!
Anything Matt Williams say know the opposite is likely true.
I can't take this Williams guy seriously😂😂😂
Fully agree. This guy is a joke!!!
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Alun Wyn!!!
Immediately when I see him, I see him, I start singing Calon Lân! Love this guy, love Wales, despite in Czech Republic, Cymru am byth, most of us love Wales 🥰
Ireland is underating what it takes to win a QF, then a SF, and then a Final. Those are very different to pool games. Ireland have never been past a QF! So they don't know what it's even like to be in a RWC SF or Final! Stay humble Ireland. A lot of talk. Time for action.
Good man Alu. Call a spade a spade. Proper honest and insightful analysis.
Well knew Matt Williams wasn’t gonna say South Africa. 😂
Jones definitely know his rugby
He's long enough at it in fairness 😅
What a good addition jones is for the world Cup. Sometimes, we get too much of the same from our ex irish players
As a completely unbiased South African fan, I have to agree with Allen Wyn Jones.
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Unbiased lol 😂😂 keep telling yourself that . That said ye could beat them
That is a very balanced view, observed by another completely unbiased South African who can appreciate level-headed analysis that is has nothing to do with patriotism and nonsense like that.🤣🤣
As a completely biased and patriotic South African, I can say that Alun Wyn is speaking facts😂
I'm not sure how much the first game tells us; injuries & fatigue means that you need a strong squad, not just 15.
Good to see Joe Molloy not behind a paywall
Exactly
For my money the Boks are looking the most championship level caliber. I think Ireland and France are on par and either of them could take out SA. AB’s aren’t impressing me one bit
If the Boks were that good how come they got murdered in the Rugby Championship a matter of weeks ago? 🤔
@@ciaranoconnor4027 2 reasons… only team that experimented & NZ at home is always immense.
@@ciaranoconnor4027 You mean the team that won multiple World Cups while Ireland regularly bombs out in the QFs???🤔
@@lane_5645 Were they 'immense' when Ireland put them away there a handful of months before? I mean the word YOU used was 'always'. So I guess Ireland were able to put away a team that are 'always immense' whereas South Africa we're not able to achieve this. You see the clear blue water between the two.
@@ciaranoconnor4027 what’s up with you leprechauns, you beat the ABs in NZ for the first time in the history of the game and you think you rugby gods… but have never made it to a RWC semifinal & it’s quite likely going to happen again. Just enjoy being a tier 1 team for a few years cause it won’t last.
My goodness, why is Matt Williams on this?
Because he's controversial
Jones, when you look at those shoes and that suit, do you think "Sharp" or not. Sir you are a Welsh god. Thank you for all the pride you have given to us 3 million Welsh people and the 5 million Welsh sheep. Cheers buddy.
Why do you have matt williams on here. He has no rugby knowledge
He's controversial
Agree that there is very little in it for the top 4 teams. That being said, I think it is south africa's to lose. The depth of their squad, winning the cup multiple times (one in france), consistency in coaching staff that won it last time around, the style of their game, it tips it to them for me. As everyone has said though, if any team has an off night, they are there for the taking.
Totally agree with you. I root for the ABs but I have said to my friends that the Springboks bruising game is built for World Cups. And that backline is second only the All Blacks in my opinion, with you guys having a significant advantage in the forwards pack. I think South Africa can retain, but they should just not meet the ABs before the final because with these two teams the form book usually doesn't mean much.
No player from 2007 world cup squad is in the squad. Meaningless to point to that wc win.
Sa hammered nz in a friendly a few weeks ago. But nz beat them by 15 points in the rugby championship in July. Its only 2 months ago
@@kevinkilbane2007No players from prior Real Madrid teams were in the current one, but pedigree and history made them win
Much appreciated #🇿🇦
Amazing how England managed to get such an easy pool comparatively. I’m convinced this draw was done to suit them.
Why would that be?
@@archie6945 because Bill Beaumont runs the IRB.
@@charliepepper3039
As a dictator?
How did England fare at the last World Cup?
Could that have a bearing on the seeding?
When you see the red cards been rescinded
Makes you think
@@johnmcintyre800 What does it make you think?
Jones is the only one who is making sense
So anyone picks South Africa is only one making sense. France can do it too irlenad just behind France and the boys.
He's played against this team, so he knows first hand how difficult it is to beat South Africa.
Respect #🇿🇦
SAFs kicking will let them down
Plus Ireland will beat them.
Agreed.
A great coup from virgin media to get Alun Wyn Jones very easy to listen and knowledge about the game top notch doesn't be long winded in conversation
Who wants to listen to Matt Williams
Basically the one side of the pool is going to play knock out rugby and the otherside will have the liberty to rotate players. The AB can come back and put any team to the sword if they click for 30 minutes, the Irish and France are looking amazing. The English beat Argentina and the Aussies can also cause an upset, as a Bok supporter we need to make sure stay ruthless and hope our forwards are dominant as our flyhalf isn't great under pressure, I hope we can put in a great performance today. Pity about our loadshedding exactly as our games starts in my area.
From the future , France and Ireland laid eggs and got eliminated
Jones should have been a rocket scientist
Proud Springbok supporter south africa 🇿🇦 🏆
So what
@@kevinkilbane2007go Bokke is what. Join the hype train brother there are plenty of seats.
@@kevinkilbane2007😂😂😂 “so what” Boks are the 4 time champions junior deal with it!
South Africa is definitely the top dog of the tournament. Every lucid team should fear facing them at any stages.
Then, I see a second batch composed by Ireland, France and New Zealand.
Ireland or France won't fear them. They'll be excited to face them, but nothing more. Nothing less.
Vous êtes tellement arrogants les sud africains. Ne prenez pas vos adversaires de haut. Ça peut vous jouer de mauvais tours. 😉
@@aliceg6745You should of listened to us now look at you 😂
@@aliceg6745😂😂😂 are you still crying junior?
@@MrBonolothey all quiet now lol
Jones said something very important SA are favorites becz unlike other teams they're trying new things are still keeping to the momentum.
I find Alun’s forecast most compelling…
Alun called it!
A bias kiwi here. Ireland have flown in under the radar and are more prepared then ever. I have hopes that the AB's were keeping some powder dry in the opener and are aiming to peak for the quarters (if they can get past Italy!) If we play Ireland or SA it will be a huge match no matter what. SA seem to have the ability to dominate up front and dictate the pass of the game. France are brilliant. But I think people may be writing off the AB's a little too soon.
I'm a South African and Springbok supporter, but still back the All Blacks to take this one.
The boks won they whole thing you were wrong in your assessment. I still maintain, they are tje only international rugby side in the world who do not necessarily need form or be in good form heading into a tournament, they always pitch in tougher situations than the rest of the other teams. I call it now, they will win the next one in Australia come 2027.Difference is they know how to win whereas the rest don't have the psychological fortitude. You can't coach that.
Soo good opinions everywhere in the pools
South Africa to beat France by a point but boks to win it but boy we gonna have to bleed
How the F... Spot on mate.
No flippin way!!!!.....reading this comment is cooool
Dude, you should buy a lotto ticket! Spot on! Boks just won their 4th world cup ... Bokke 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
One thing everyone forgets. South Africa gets a bye in the last round of group games which give their players an extra week of rest which can be crucial.
It’s actually a 3 week break for their A team until the Q finals, after the Ireland match
@@pdewaal100 Exactly what I was thinking.
Which also means their games were more back to back at some point,
Springboks have now won 50% of the world cups that they played. Already looking forward to RWC in 2027.
Well done, Jonesy
Matt Williams is truly the Jeff Wilson of Irish pundits (and that's not a compliment mate)
Cohesion is key. South Africa, France Ireland have the most cohesive squads. New Zealand not so much.
Who is the first guy? I better listen to Mr Jones.SOUTH AFRICA!
Got a bad feeling about tomorrows game against Scotland (as a bok fan), the NH teams always seem to feed off of each others performances.
yh, they know how to resonate from flickers of opportunity
Looking into my crystal ball, you needn't worry. 🤣🤣🤣
No need to worry. Reckon we will beat them by 15 points. Comfortable win ;)
@@notenoughstones3873 great prediction.
As an Ireland fan I unfortunately have to say I think the Springboks win it . The boks France Ireland nz are all world class but sa are the only guys who have world class depth at every position bar 10.
If sexton or ringrose go down Irelands backline goes to shit, if Sheehan is out the line out is dust too.
France already have a tonne of injuries and even one more starting xv player getting injured and they’re done imo .
Nz have little to no depth in the pack which is already weaker than most ABs packs too.
France won by a couple of scores without really playing very well. Granted New Zealand didn't play well either and to be honest I don't think SA/Ireland would be particularly 'scared' to play either NZ or France along the way, but France have still put away one of the top sides so that counts for a lot. SA putting away Scotland at 5th place is a statement from them too. Ireland haven't had that statement win yet, but their route will be more of a momentum building one where the games they play get progressively more 'important'
Dunno about the world league being the reason for the improvement in pool picking. The world league is a whole can of worms in itself
Kearney going on about the draw etc. Yes it is flawed but we have known about it for 3 years so it isn't bad luck etc it is just the way it is. Williams - the World Rankings are not flawed as the top 5 in the world are ranked 1-5 in the rankings
Not one mention of Scotland! As an Irish man I think we behave like England football fans. Same hype every World Cup. Ireland won’t do anything at this world cup
Namibia is taking the cup!
France and ABs game confirms Boks as the favourites. Runner up is irrelevant. Boks to win
Yawn..
They have to beat Scotland too.
Hahaha😂
Boks looking dangerous.
Supersport hire Jones
yes fm SA
South Africa v Ireland final
No possible, no?
@@bobbyhanly3466 It is very definitely possible.
Have to feel that Ireland and France are still #1 and #2 respectively. Both France and Ireland have beat the Boks fairly recently. Not saying that the Boks aren't close, but handing the ABs a walloping at this point in time isn't much of an indicator. Looking forward to the Boks playing Ireland on the 23rd.
Boks lost with 3 points to Ireland and four points to France ,cause the kicking was wayward by Willemse if the kicking is spot on I don't see why they won't beat both of them honestly with all respect.
Well, I'm a Canadian who has only been a rugby fan since 2008, so I don't have the knowledge base others have, but I also don't suffer death by a thousand cuts when I see my favourite team (ABs) lose. On the other hand my favourite players are Marx , Faf and Etzebeth, so I won't be heart-broken to see them win.@@terwinterwin7792
France is thé favorite because they Play At home.
It a very Big avantage.
The french fans will make a crazy ambiance.
I think that only AS or Ireland who could win thé World cup
SA are a very good side, settled and well coached, but one game against a none classic Abs doesn't change how poor they were at times in the TRC, they havent become perfect in one game. They will be a handful but I see france squeezing them out.
The thing is we need to play all our games at the same intensity to make it out of our pool, tough ask and I suspect that Nienaber and Rassie was planning this for the last four years. I'm only taking the blue print from that game for the WC, we havent done well ourselves under pressure and our flyhalf needs to tested as well.
How do you watch the SA vs Scotland game and say that! The World Cup is NOT the Rugby Championship. The World Cup is tighter, is once every 4 years, and it’s do or die. SA played a completely different game against Scotland. I can’t say I watch all their games, but the one place I thought they could come unstuck is with a back line like Scotland. You know exactly what you’re getting up front, but with quick ball and a really good back line that’s your opportunity against SA. But how smart were those selections from SA and the game plan? The rush defence was outstanding and they stopped anything before it started because they chose a back line that was all pace. That wasn’t their best side, but was the best side against Scotland.
Furthermore, they lost etsebeth early, a talisman, and you didn’t even notice he wasn’t there. There is so much depth they just keep going. From what has been seen, and the Ireland win was against a minnow so it’s hard to say where they truly are, but whoever beats SA is a worthy World Cup winner. If they come up against France, who knows which France will pitch up on the day, but SA will be prepared for them. The pressure of playing at home is also something that cannot be ignored, but you saying that 2 weeks ago beating a full strength ABs by a record margin with an experimental side, and playing a very different way against Scotland with a completely different game plan is irrelevant, is probably exactly what SA hopes everybody they play against will do and underestimate them.
Look at any team and from their perspective ask, how do we beat SA, and they don’t have an answer. You almost discard them in a disrespectful manner, which is just a sign of bias.
@@theneutral1164 calm down. If south Africa were unbeatable then they'd never lose, they have lost recently, I wasn't disrespectful I was making the point that recently Ireland France and NZ have found ways to beat them. I think SA will do well at this tournament, but France and Ireland won't be afraid of them. I'm not biased, stop being sensitive
@@Bill-bn2ew I’m not being sensitive, especially since I’m not an SA supporter twat, I’m pointing out how dismissive your statement was, but clearly you’re still suffering the trauma of the record loss!
@@theneutral1164 what record loss? Also, I wrote that comment before the SA Scotland game you Dick
Jones was right
Pool B: I do not see Ireland in the quarter final. It will be SA and Scotland.
Why hating Ireland yes we could loose Scotland more likely beat them mostly why u hate ireland😊
@@Jackn2024Just because his opnion hurts your feelings does not mean he "hates Ireland". Chill out dude.😂
Scotland will be sent home by Ireland. They scored three points against us dude, and that was the only scoring chance we let them have. Even as a SAFFA, I hope they don't beat Ireland because they will just be giving our potential final opponent an easier path. If we make it to the final, we want to play Ireland, or whoever beat Ireland; we don't want to play the team that put Scotland out of their misery or a team from the other side of the pool, we want to play the best to prove where we stand in the world.
I didn't think France was very good last night, after that I would put Ireland and SA as favourites but that could change game to game , right
Week one has passed. In every RWC you get upsets, underdogs winning critical games. As a Bok fan, I will be cautious around France and AB's. France has the home crowd and it does make a difference. Springboks never has won AB's on NZ soil, so the bok supporters should not get too over confident\arrogant.
France has the adv. The opening game between France and AB's was sloppy and yet France ended up winning (even the captain of AB confirmed it was hard to play against a team and
their fans.).
We have a gr8 forward pack but no good kicker. In QF and SF, a game can be one by the kicker on drop goals, penalties etc. and Springboks can loose a game due to that.
Good luck to the Boks and hope we do have a kicker before QF
Alun Jones called it, just cameback here to rub it in on Matt Williams, south Africa won it again.
Jones makes sence realy
SA top team out of the pool with Scotland second in that pool, Irish will not cope with the heat in France and Scotland is anyway a Mini SA team with strong forwards, the key to this WC is forwards, not fancy players, no ball no joy, simple
Yes strong forwards full of steroids, skills are secondary.
@@arno222444 the SA forwards are all natural and hours and hours in the gym, we have mielie pap in our country and our boys grew up on it, that is why the world is saying we are build different
@@jaspermalan3640 I’ve played number 8 and I’ve done a lot of sport all my life and I’m 100% sure that it is not possible to reach this level without steroids, growth hormones and many many others chemical products. 100% sure, the human body just cannot be so muscular and so lean. Totally impossible. Assuming it’s possible to produce naturally the same level of muscles (I dont think its possible anyway) your level of fat will be way way higher. That said no team is 100% clean it’s just more obvious for the boks.
@@arno222444 my friend I get you 100 percent and of course I am not with the team to see what they take and don't take, but I do know our boys works hours, days and months in the gym
@@jaspermalan3640 sure they do I’m not questionning their work ethic. Roids or not you don’t reach this level without working your ass off.
The Springboks know, the Irish game is do or die. Then also the group draws is rather suspicious.
Jones comments make sense.
South African here. Nobody should count their chickens before they hatch, because it's going to be a hard road to the cup.
Australia - South Africa final
One month later 😂
Nobody knows who will win this competition. Yes we can have some animated fun (over animated sometimes) talking about it. But in reality at this stage, all we can say is that either Ireland, SA, France, NZ or possibly Scotland, Australia or England are in there with a realistic chance of winning it.
If you want a definitive answer from me, then ask me in eight weeks time after I’ve had lots of enjoyment watching 📺 as many games as I can, drinking as many 🍻 as I can (in moderation of course 😉) with lots of pizza, discussing as much as I can with anybody and everybody, with a week on the beach 🏝️ in sunny Spain in the middle….. this is going to be an exhausting eight weeks 🏉 🏆 🍻 🍕 ☀️ 🌊 🏖️
You lost me at Scotland.
@@Karma-qt4ji : Come on. CONCENTRATE!
@@Driver2616 I am concentrating, hence my comment. Scotland scored a mere 3 points against South Africa and while I expect them to put up a bit of a fight, are going to lose to Ireland in 3 weeks time.
Jones needs to join SuperBru...
France were not convincing last night. New Zealand might win it but I go for South Africa.
France won’t peak before the knock out stage. They won’t impress against Namibie and Italy they will just win. Look at the last 6N watch again their first game and compare with the last one.
South Africa or France
They will still make the draw earlier but only by a few months
yh, hopefully 9 or 10 months
Ireland/Bok final for me...
After last night's game, I have to agree.
Ireland will "easily" take out either France or the AB's.
@@Keizer_Sozelol
South Africa are the team to beat, not France!
Realistically it’s between France and Springboks. Only France can unlock this SA defence and use the emotion of crowd/home World Cup against springbok physicality that no side can match. I just think Irelands pack will get mauled by SA
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hope the French win, HOWEVER have 4000 Au on the bokkies
Alun love ya you bloody Man
i GREW UP IN NZ, they'll be on that 380 home, early
3 guys that never made it to a RWC final predict the winner.
Sure, we're only going to ask world cup winners who will win the world cup!
@@johnmc3862 maybe we will get a more informed answer.
Don’t sleep on the All blacks they will bounce back !!!
England and Australia with eight World Cup final appearances between them are 'bolters'.😂
It's based on current form, not on history. Still great teams but currently not on the level of France, Ireland or South Africs. However, this world cup could show otherwise
@@reggiega7989 we're only one round into the comp. A bit early to be talking about current form.
@@clemfandango619 but that's the point, we're basing off of what has been demonstrated prior to the world cup. England weren't a favourite coming into this world cup. In a few weeks maybe England and Australia will look amazing but based on most recent times, France, Ireland and South Africa have looked better than both. I'm just saying that world cup final appearances from years ago can't be used as reasoning to say a team is a favourite right now
@@reggiega7989 I believe there's world cup teams. Look at England yesterday, there was absolutely no relation between that performance and their games earlier this year.
@@clemfandango619 as I said, I'm not suggesting that England won't be one of the favourites after thr group stage and their performance against Argentina was good but the problem with England currently is the consistency, I guess it's what you could criticise Irelajd for as well, they're number 1 now but they've always had trouble with consistency especially at the World Cup. It's going to be a good world cup either way
Boks boks
S.A is taking this World cup period
Are you a yank?
Are you a Siberian?@@leonardodavinci7425
Look at how angry Matt is when Jones says Springboks are gonna win🤣 This oke is such a hater of SA Rugby, sucking as a coach himself but gets so angry at those better than him…
France will play their second game in the evening time, Hmmm!!!
itts because of tv rights.TF1 the channel that bought the rights for the games of team France exusively dealed a brodcast at peak hour
@@RegisLEVY Cheere for that info. A bit unfair I believe. Further more France have already hosted this event before so why not give it to the Celtic nations of Ireland, Scotland, and Wales to hold? Theses Countries give as much as any other top teir nations the right to hold this tournament. A bit unfair I believe.
kearney it is unfair…..Ireland won’t make another semi, when they are the number one ranked team in the world! I don’t know if they are worse at lions tours or choking in WCs
I predict south africa will win
France will drop out in the QF!
NZ got all their First choice player's,back everything has changed,
Matt Williams can’t stand the Boks or SA..😂
And AWJ has just made a new enemy lmao. Much respect to AWJ!!
Ireland are a great side, but haven't been given a chance of winning by anyone, even their own pundits. Yet they won the series in NZ, are the Gland Slam Winners, and world No.1 ranked side..........i hope they spank everyone, and bring the cup home.
All the Irish team's achievments that you listed are truly impressive. What you forgot to mention is that Ireland were also ranked no. 1 going into the last RWC, and yet they maintend their record of never having got past a RWC quater final. World Cup rugby is simply very different to test match rugby or 6 Nations rugby. I wish Ireland well and hope they play to their full potential but dont confuse their world ranking with their realistic World Cup ranking.
I hope they make it past the QFs first😂😂😂😂😂