The Last Argentine A-4 Airstrike (13 June 1982, Falklands)
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- Throughout the 1982 conflict, Argentine Air Force and Navy launched many airstrikes against British forces recovering the Falklands. The most famous and successful strikes were against Royal Navy ships. But on 13 June 1982, one day before the War ended, Skyhawks of the 5th Fighter Group attacked what they thought was a concentration of troops west of Port Stanley, the Islands capital. Their target turned out to be much more than just a troop concentration.
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- Key Aero - The Last A-4 Skyhawk Operation of the Falklands:
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- A 42 años de Malvinas: el vuelo rasante de los Halcones
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- Maten a Moore: a 40 años de la última y osada misión de los A4 en Malvinas
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A-4 Skyhawk model used for this reenactment is not historically correct. Argentine flights used A-4B while DCS World only has the late E model with the hump. Also, BRP parachute bombs are represented by similar SAMP 250s. Historically, Skyhawks carried three on the centerline rack while in the simulation, only two SAMPs can be carried this way. Blowpipe missiles, unavailable in DCS are represented here by Stingers. These are not mistakes but approximations and there's no need to 'correct' them. Thank you for your understanding.
You go Girl! The plane was cheap but could Multi-role. Wana bet a Harrier C could accelerate stop in mid air drop 1500 feet then turn for a lock on with a sidewinder? That was the "FUN" part of a VTOL. Stops in mid flight as you blow past then "Tone" fire and RTB.
You are very thoughtful and thorough with all of your content. I do enjoy historical accuracy but also understand DCS and it's limitations.
Many years after the war, Argentina get the A-4E of the video as "A-4AR"....
The photo at 10.03 is not in Malvinas....is in the Georgian Islands, the argentinian is Captain Astiz.....when the democracy return, the guy have serious problems for human right violations...
@@alejandrocasalegno1657 No one goes to their Grave without regrets. Here is what I know. The British Harrier AV-8 took on French American and Spanish Aircraft and kick ass. Who stops and drops 15 hundred feet as you blow past me only to be target locked? Then goes right back to 750 Knots? The Malvenas are British Territory. Want to bet? Again?
@@chrismair8161 Your English is worst than my .. English.🤡🤡
One thing that can not be denied is the bravery of the Argentine Pilots. From a former US Military Pilot, I salute you gentlemen
Standing Salute to you back, Sir!
Para nosotros los argentinos Malvinas es un sentimiento ❤ 🇦🇷
As a family member of British people who were there and were terrorized by sadistic invaders I say, F those pilots. AND, those pilots were combat ineffective more often than not because they flew too damn low for their bombs to detonate. My grandad fought in the Battle of Britain. He watched. He thought they sure could fly, but he was unimpressed with them overall b/c of this.
@@bravo2zeroCAN You obviously never served in the military. Even enemies can have respect, try and understand that. Never mind, you cannot.
I have not. And I never suggested I had. However, 3 of my elders, including my grandad…with whom I was very close…were combat vets. My grandfather said “There was no chivalry. These German bastards were coming to kill our people and take our country. I wanted to kill every one I saw.” So yeah, I get respect for an enemy. But I also get hating the invader…especially when they are unrepentant, unlike modern Germans. Do you understand that? Never mind, you cannot.
Despite being the last days of war of the Malvinas my hats off to the entire Fuerzas Armadas Argentina and their bravery and courage. Thank you and greetings to showtime 112. Salutations from Tijuana Bc Mexico.
No hay nada como pelear por su tierra. Ya los echamos en 1806-07 y 1845. El 82 solo fue una batalla más y el imperio en decadencia lo sabe!
Malvinas? Never heard of it
@@javierbertero5879your land 😂 the British occupied that land before Argentina was a country. And you never physically kicked anyone off the Falklands 😂..
@@javierbertero5879fantasies..
If you don't like my comment that's too bad for you.
Argentinian. Yesterday, I took an Uber ride with a Falklands War soldier who fought at Mount Longdon (the last battle before reaching Port Stanley). From what he told me, they were in a firefight for 14 hours until they surrendered, not so much due to physical exhaustion but because they ran out of ammunition. He ended up without firearms, fighting in the open field with a knife against a Gurkha who slashed his stomach and let him live.
My respects to the combatants on both sides.
The gurkhas were at Mount William and never actually saw any combat. Longdon had paratroopers from 2 para on it.
@@stevyjobs8436 So, Gurkha or not, he fought someone with a knife.
@@nixersito190 maybe, maybe not.
@@stevyjobs8436 yes
As an old A-4m and TA-4 j US Marine. A4s forever. Great little plane.
The Canadian "Top aces" company has currently got the contract to fly target simulation AAMS "Zieldarstellung" here in Wittmund, Germany. They fly seven a4 n (Israeli derivatve) and four alpha jets in that role.
It was certainly a very successful design, thank you for the comment!
We still have some operational in the Argentina Air Force!! Awesome little nimble aircraft! I know from another US Marine Pilot who flew them in Vietnam that they still love them!
As a 21 yr old Brit at the time, I watched the constant news footage on the BBC. Despite feeling a little conflicted at the time, ultimately I wanted the UK to prevail, with minimal casualties for both sides. The sight of British warships being bombed and sometimes blowing up was shocking. But I also remember thinking the wall of AAA those Argentinians flew through in the bays that the UK ships were anchored, made those pilots pretty brave guys too…
As a 25 yr old Briton I was not in the slightest little bit conflicted. I respected the Falklanders self determination and right to be British. We all wanted the Bastards kicked out. The equivalent population of five times of the Falklands was "disappeared" in Argentina every twelve months under Galtieri's regime. No confliction for me.
@@paulgeraghty1448 Si llevo Argentinos a vivir a una isla inglesa, ellos también querrán ser argentinos, y sus descendientes también. No aplica la autodeterminación de un pueblo que es implantado producto de una situación ilegal. No sea ignorante
@@paulgeraghty1448the english is the enemy. The english invaded Malvinas in 1833. The english has to go back to his little cold Island in the north hemisphere.
The people living in Malvinas do not have any rights on the islands. One day british will run away from Malvinas like they did from HK.
@@paulgeraghty1448 those numbers you mention were made up by left terrorists that were bombing out the country (trained and supported by Castro's regime). The author of those numbers confessed years later to be lying about it because it became a legal industry against tax payers money, for political reasons and to get international funds. He confessed that on live television. Apart from that, you had invaded the islands in 1833 and kicked out the argentinian population entirely. Self determination??? yeah, sure... tell me another one. But that was only after failing to invade two times Buenos Aires, in 1806 and 1807, with thousands of soldiers. And by the way, you stole the whole Buenos Aires treasure on 1806 and paraded it through the streets of London. You were not the good guys around the world and nobody had called you on these lands to bring armies and steal like that. Malvinas was the leftover you could keep of your southern military pillage adventures. Argentina did never recognize you the right you naturally do not have... and now you pretend to play the oposite role for Ucraine.
Hollywood’s Pirates are always the good guys.😎
A-4 Skyhawk, my beloved.
Great video as always
The Skyhawk always reminds me that Israeli pilot who went to do the Operational Conversion to A-4 in Pensacola NAS. Just arrived and still holding his suitcase, he watched as a couple of A-4s departed in close formation. Suddenly, a tire in one of the Skyhawks blew up and the aircraft was thrown against the other. Both departed the runway entangled, caught fire and exploded. No one ejected.
Sure was a nice welcome! 😰
_[Israeli Skyhawk units at war, Osprey Publishing]_
El A 4 es el más bonito de todos. ❤
@@duartesimoes508 Yikes, I've been to the museum at NAS Pensacola and ive never heard that story.
This was the last daytime attack, since in the early hours of June 14 the Canberras B Mk62 made the last attack of the war (night attack) being shot down one of the Canberra and killing the navigator: Captain Casado when he could not eject, while the pilot: Captain Pastrán was able to eject and survived.
Hopefully he will make a video about that Canberra night raid some day
_Casado_ means "married", in Spanish or Portuguese... ☹
I'm not sure if a Camberra Navigator had an ejection seat. Several British aircraft designers back then were adept at always provide an ejection seat for the pilot but make little or no effort to do likewise for other crewman. "Here, try to open this little hatch if you reach it in time..."
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@@duartesimoes508 Casado is the last name. And the Argentine Canberras did have 2 ejection seats. According to the pilot Captain Pastran, Captain Casado informed him that his ejection seat did not work.
@@FuManchu1983I do know that it is the last name. In Portugal a well know furniture manufacturer has the same surname... 😀
Thank you ! I just love those Falklands stories! :)
Glad to hear that, thanks!
The UK forces would have pressed on even if their commanding general would have been taken out, their Colonels, Lt Colonels and even Majors are very capable officers and any of them would have had no problem taking over all command and leading the forces for the final push on Port Stanley. I'm happy to see that this attack was pretty much ineffectual and that all the Argentine pilots were able to make it back home alive. This is a war that should have never have had happen.
to ease the pain of that weird war, the argentines and british have fought on the same side after 1982, in the gulf war (different roles) and in the balkan wars, sadly not many peapole know about it
True, modern western armies are very hard to 'decapitate'.
You're right, although the UK general mentioned, Jeremy Moore, said the 1982 campaign was a "close run thing". (Which is not to say the UK would not have sent reinforcements.) Their main problem was the Argentines had air superiority, right up to the surrender. One major consequence was that when _Atlantic Conveyor_ was hit by an Exocet, the British Army and Royal Marines lost almost all of their helicopters. Since vehicles were limited in number, it meant most of the ground forces had to walk overland long distances before engaging the Argentines and prolonged the campaign. Secondly, the fighter wing of the "Corporate" task force was the equivalent of two squadrons of Harriers (~25 aircraft). Not only were they seriously outnumbered by Mirages and Skyhawks, the Argentine aircraft always flew >1500 km from the mainland, and 90% of the time were in a light attack/fighter bomber role. If even five or six Mirages/Daggers and an A4 squadron had been based on the islands, then UK air support for ground forces would have become almost impossible; the Harrier pilots would have been busy defending the ships and themselves.
@TheGrant65 there are many instances that changed the war. Argentine pilots had hit around 10 ships without doing any damage, because the bombs had failed to explode. Remember the Argentine planes flew at maximum distance. And could not even make evasive maneuvers to evade the Harriers. Or they would not have any fuel left to return home.
There where indeed planes on the islands, but the brittish bombed or assaulted the airways early in the war.
Malvinas Argentinas !!! 🇦🇷
Very brave pilots. I know some of them.
They had no experience at war, but managed oto inflict severe damage to british forces.
Maybe the last war of gentlemen.
They did some damage. However, who was victorious as usual?
@@sandgrownun66 some damage ? Atlantic Conveyor.. (lost most of the transport helicopters) ..Sir Galahad, Sheffield ... What it was, the brits had trained in the UK for hiking across wet cold mountain ranges... And in the north sea ..where just the weather can be the battle... On paper, numerically, UK was inferior and should lose...
The damage taken was "well that could be foreseen.. no sign of unexpectedly fierce resistance.." .. .. what the brits didn't know was how useless the argies were,generally.. unable to bomb ships.. unable to launch air craft from carrier .. unable to track submarines, unable to respond to a few Para units. They put the inexperienced out in the trenches andvleft them there... Most of the career soldiers retreated to Stanley....
@@isilder Nobody isn't going to have no losses, if the other side is also using modern weapons it bought, because it can't make it's own.
Also, I think I got a warning for using the slang term for the Argentines/ Argentinians, which you've just used. I have removed that term, from all my replies, and replaced it with the full word. Of course, the use of "Brits", isn't seen as offensive. So almost a double standard there.
@@sandgrownun66 As usual? What is that supposed to mean? At least in South America, the British have far more defeats than victories. The one they achieved in 1982 was really an exception to the rule: Brits lose wars in the Americas.
Warriors
Another great video about a little known incident of the Falklands war.
Thank you for the positive comment!
Excellent story and video about the courage of these argentine pilots who had fight until the end. The british planification was to take Port Stanley with helicopters.
Unfortunatly the Atlantic Conveyor wich carried these helicopters was sunk by an Exocet missile fired by an argentine SUPER ETENDARD.
So the british had to cross the island by foot with light materials, it's the reason of the localisation of this operationnal center made buy camping tent on the middle of no way.
For the argentine, to shell this command camp had a great strategic interest.
Salut Jeanne. Avec cette perte, ce fut 3 Chinook et 3 Wessex perdu. Heureusement le 4e Chinook était en vol. C'est lui seul qui assura
"L intérim"🤔 jusqu'à arrive de renforts.
Je crois que le bateau a pris 2 exocet
@@dominiqueroudier9401
Je sais que le pilote argentin du SUPER ETENDARD avait verrouillé un navire de guerre britannique qui escortait le convoi maritime. C'était leur priorité, couler tout ce qui est militaire en priorité.
Mais l'EXOCET n'a pas accroché la cible, il est passé à côté du navire visé puis il a verrouillé une autre cible avec son radar, c'était l'ATLANTIC CONVEYOR qui a sombré avec les hélicoptères à bord à cause d'un incendie gigantesque qui s'est déclaré à bord. C'est un logique si c'était le plus imposant du convoi, l'écho radar était plus important, le missile l'a accroché plus aisément.
Je ne sais pas s'il y a eu deux missiles, sachant que le SUPER ETENDARD ne peut en emporter qu'un seul à la fois sous son aile, de l'autre côté c'est un bidon qui équilibre.
Toujours est-il que ces hélicoptères de transport de troupes étaient prévus pour déposer des troupes d'assaut britanniques sur conquérir Port Stanley.
Par conséquent, les troupes d'assaut britanniques ont dû traverser l'île à pied et à découvert de surcroit dans une terre tourbeuse voire marécageuse. Heureusement, que le rayon d'action des avions argentins de l'époque était au maximum sinon il y aurait plus de pertes du côté de l'infanterie britannique, un peu comme dans le scénario mortifère du HMS Sir Galahad.
@@dominiqueroudier9401 Je ne sais pas s'il a pris deux EXOCET.
"planification"?
Thanks for being around and always contributing with a comment!
Por siempre Islas Malvinas es Argentina. Gloria y honor a los héroes de Malvinas.
Mis respetos a los caídos ingleses en la Guerra
Excelente documental
✌️🇦🇷✌️
The Falkland Islands are British territory until the inhabitants choose otherwise. Which will never happen.
@@Chilly_Billy Primero que están a 13.000 kms de casa, uds pertenecen al Atlántico Norte. Usuroarun la isla recién en 1883 bajo amenaza de cañón y desalojaron a la población Argentina sin que mediara estado de guerra. La usuroarun al mejor estilo pirata. Y aclaro que los kelpers son población británica implantada y por eso no tienen derecho a Autodeterminación. Además, UK no reconoce ese derecho a Autodeterminación ya que se los niega a las poblaciones de Crimea y el Donbass de Ucrania que optan por ser Rusos. Malvinas son y serán eternamente argentinas. El Atlántico Sur es argentino. Pirates go to Home
@@Chilly_Billy so open the borders and lets see
@@Chilly_Billyno son britanicos estan en la franca austral del continente argentino .y ademas es tan grosero y descarado de parte britanico que estan a 12.000 kilometros de las islas no te parese descomunalmente exsagerado la distancia para desir o afirmar que la islas les pertenesen ?? Y no son las unicas islas que se an apropiado o adueñado saves lo que son los britanicos unos intrusos ladrones pero ba ser cuando argentina se potencie en armamentos ya que tienen unos pilotos de aviones de los mejores del mundo y vamos a ver si se ban de las islas la guerra del 82 argentina estuvo a poco de ganarselas la proxima ba ser otra la historia.
@@Chilly_Billyclaro que nunca van a querer cambiar de nacionalidad, si le obligaron a sus abuelos y bisabuelos vivir hay, tendrían que estar en Inglaterra pero como los obligaron ir a una tierra distante hay quedaron.
Excellent as always, thank you!
Glad you liked it, thanks!
Quality content, thanks for your work.
Thank you for the positive response!
Another top quality video!
Thank you very much!
Your detailed reconstructions of of such events and the massive archival research it takes are truly impressive.
Thank you very much for your positive feedback!
Nice video as always. The last combat mission was that same night and it was conducted by the Canberras of the Grupo 2 de Bombardeo. Salut
Thank you for contributing!
Muchas gracias!
Ha sido muy interesante.
Enhorabuena de nuevo.
Me encanta la manera de narrar el episodio.
Gracias amigo!
Thank you very much for your positive comment!
It's nice to see something different about how things went then. I like how you take your time telling the story. I've previously only seen the older documentary films and was still a school boy when it was live on the News.
Thank you for the elaborate feedback!
Really enjoyed this Falklands series 😊
Thank you, I'm glad to hear it!
Serie de Malvinas
@@jorgitopbenny5689 the name is in the title. Why would you try to correct me?
@@TheLincolnshireFlyer Las Malvinas son Argentinas. ¿Así o mas clarito?
@@ELNIPLO
Only in jingoistic Argentinian dreams.
"No walk in the Park" is the title of the book by Brigadier Julian Thompson. And I wasn't even aware that he had been _personally_ bombed! This must have given him the idea for the title... 😰😰
Indeed it was not. So many fine and valiant people killed from both sides, at least not in vain among the British but so needlessly nevertheless, among both Forces. 😢
I remember it well, such a stupid war and the British had no choice but to deploy, Thatcher or no Thatcher.
Greetings from 🇵🇹. (No, not Buenos Aires altough I certainly respect them too 👏👏)
Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
The book is titled ‘No Picnic’, but the meaning is much the same.
@@dustyrhodes8147you're right. I cannot trust my memory anymore... ☹
Sempre lavoro notevole ed informativo. 👍🍀😎🤩🤗☺️💖⭐🌟💫
I appreciate your positive comment!
Great lesson as usual. Every chapter became an history lesson learnt. Thanks
Thank you for appreciating the videos!
Yes. The Argies certainly learnt to keep their grubby little hands off the Falkland Islands.
The war was such an odd mix of low and high technology, warships sunk by stand off Exocets and then low level attacks with dumb bombs like this.
What was the next conflict that was absolutely fought with all modern weapons?
This sttis better than TV!
Thanks!
As always, great work. Thank you.
Thank you for watching!
Great video, got to see interdiction mission, thanks to you ❤❤❤
Thank you for appreciating it!
I watched this video very very drunk at like 3 in the morning but I have to watch it again because I don't remember much.
I know it's gonna be good second time around.
I never thought of my content as something drunk people might be drawn to but even a drunk aviation enthusiast is still an aviation enthusiast 😁
Imagine how the command felt hearing a red alert for aerial attack having all the defense systems you can ask for, with logistical and technological upperhand.
Actually, the British air defense systems were not that sophisticated in this conflict.
The A-4 according to our naval aviator cousin was incredibly fun to fly. He had command of a squadron at Yankee Station in Vietnam .
Happy that this war has ended now Falkland is UK owner. And cost a lot of money for maintenance of this island. Airport, troops,RAF typhoon air détachement....
But as i read , argentina have Always a desire of revenge but dont have means to attack again😮
Yup, the possession of such a remote territory probably doesn't improve the national budget 😁
@@showtime112Fortunately, Corsica is close to France with Solenzara air basé. More far we have a detachment of mirage 2000D and 2000-5 in Djibouti.
Ya tenemos un nuevo presidente qué va a volver a armar para defensa de nuestro país el tiempo lo dirá
@@walteromaribarra6850seee, mirá como arma al país mandando todo el oro a Inglaterra...
Another great video! Thanks!
Thanks Chups!
Another Pirate Hollywood version like victimized N3ø N4z1 Kiev Regime ,Beauty on the Eye of the Beholder
Excellent research exercise, good work!
I'm glad you liked it, thanks!
Hoy 10 de Agosto....es el día de la Fuerza Aérea Argentina..🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷.
Gracias @Showtime112!
👏👏👏👏👏👏 Arriba la Fuerza Aerea Argentina. Todos fueran Heroes. 💪
Thank you for the comment!
My pleasure. Did you know that during the Falklands War, Pierre Clostermann, the Free French who ended the war with about 27 kills as RAF Wing Commander flying Tempests publicly praised the courage and boldness of the Argentinian pilots and was rabidly reprehended by _The Sun,_ as if he was some traitor? A Man who had crossed half world via Brasil and USA to Britain to fight the Germans although no one forced him to do so... Unbelievable.
How can you have an Air Force day, when you don't have an Air Force?
@@duartesimoes508 And which country freed the French from the Germans? It certainly wasn't Argentina. After the war, they were also too busy giving war criminals a place to live. In the case of Eichmann. Israel had to resort to kidnap to bring him to justice.
Interesting video, which raises an important question ----
How did the Argentinians know of the meeting time & location of the British 3rd Commando leaders ?
Thank you! It seems like they didn't know exactly. It was probably a coincidence!
radio intercepts?
I thought about that too. I suspect that it was signal intelligence. Chatter on hand held radios that seemed innocuous to the British was pieced together by Argentine intel.
@@showtime112
Perhaps I am reading too much into the strike -
----- but the rapid movement of the front line forces (esp the Commandos) - means the odds are stacked against it being a lucky find.
Wondering the same! Have to dissent though, regarding the "lucky find" as they went there as if they had a huge GPS w/Google Maps indicating the meeting place. They weren't looking for targets of opportunity and sent nothing less than 2 flights with the aproppriate ordnance at that location. Some Intel was definitely used here, they knew where they were, but didn't know what to hit, so they had the loc and time (was an unexpected last minute change what made the officers not be there), but didn't know the visual details of the targets. Like a fellow said above, radio chatter must've done it... just a LOT of radio chatter for something that was still not over, even if for at least a day.
Would have been even more of a tragedy had anyone lost their lives in this raid which was essentially for nothing.
That happens to often in war.
@@bigblue6917my Great Grandfather was sunk in a Portuguese Navy Patrol Boat by the German U-Boot U-139 less than one month before WW I ended. He survived, but the Captain and many others didn't. 🙁
No fue en vano y seguro hubo bajas. Los británicos siempre fueron sorprendidos por los pilotos argentinos. Que llegarán y bombardearan con tanta facilidad su puesto de mando no les causó mucha gracia. Jeremy Moore declaró luego que se salvó de milagro. Ataque rasante estilo último film de top gun
Ótimo como sempre, obrigado!
*no Brasil chamamos Guerra das Malvinas, pois assim chamamos as ilhas.
Cómo debe ser!!
Muito obrigado!
Gracias hermano
They are called the Falkland Islands The first recorded landing on the Falkland Islands was by an English Captain John Strong in 1690. He named the sound between the two main islands after Viscount Falkland, a British naval official. The name was later applied to the whole island group.
@@franps6205 Malvinas
thank you for your presentation 😊
Thank you for watching!
Another excellent video. Keep up the good work. Btw, how did you choreograph the blowpipe miss?
I repeated the attack scene multiple times and used various bits (including the take where the missile misses). Btw, did you get my earlier reply? YT has just happily informed me that my comment was removed because it classifies as 'hate speech'. Not sure which one they meant 😁
@@showtime112 No, I think I didn't. It was late in my corner of the world and perhaps I was already asleep.
Great video! 😊
Hvala!
Excellent work and presentation by Showtime 112! Thanks for bringing these details of this conflict which does have much media coverage such as this last attacks/battles of the Falklands conflict. Will you cover the sinking of the HMS Coventry? Thanks for all you do! ♠️🎩🎯🎱🇺🇸🏁🇮🇱🇺🇦🔱🌻🏵️💮🌸🏴☠️🏹
Thanks again. Coventry and some other anti-ship strikes are on the to do list. Sadly, we don't have some of those ship models and I would have to use the same frigates as stand-ins.
@@showtime112 sounds like a workable plan.
By that time with only a day to go any loss of senior commanders would have had little effect on the outcome. Argentina was finished.
I agree, the outcome was pretty much decided by then.
Yep. Pentagon and US involvement was vital during this war. When you're allied to the most powerful nation on earth, Bob's your uncle.
Si las fuerzas armadas argentinas hubiese sabido que la guerra se terminaba al otro dia, no hubiesen arriesgado sus vidas, no te parece? En esta guerra caia el que lo soplaran primero
@@jeanbethencourt1506 wasn't aware of any US involvement.
@@paulgeraghty1448 yeah the US was working hard behind the scenes to make sure Argentina didn't embarrass the UK and ruin the "deterrent" quality of the NATO alliance. There's a lot of declassified info about the Pentagon's role in the war out there.
Great respect to the Argentine pilots. They are the real Top Gun.
I like the cockpit textures, usually they are black. Is this some mod or did you re-texture it yourself?
I didn't really do anything with the textures, it's straight out of the box 😊
@@showtime112 Hm, maybe it's a part of specific livery. To be honest, I didn't try them all myself. 😁
Look cool, though.
As always an interesting chapter in aerial history and very well presented.
The name of A-4 B skyhawk leading this mission was "Tordillo", this master peace now rest in Río Cuarto, Argentina.
You make a very good entertaining and historical presentation, including insight and technical explanstions with maps! So many channels using simulators to personalize historical battles, forget the maps! Even books are often stingy on maps. So good job and thanks!
Thank you for the feedback! I agree that maps can be very helpful when it comes to history.
Very interesting, I knew nothing about this mission
Soft ground target area. Wrong choice of payload by the Argentinians.
Great video as usual. You show but did not mention El Tordillo, a grey Skyhawk coded C 222 that wasn't painted in usual three tone colors because it was underground deep maintenance, and had only its grey prime grey on. It is actually preserved somewhere in Argentina as a war heritage. Useless to say that the argentine claimed more british losses than they actually did, anyway it was a daring raid. The last one.
Thank you. Yes, I didn't go into the details about the grey A-4 to keep the video lenght under control. But I knew somebody would bring it up in the comments 😁
@@showtime112 A4 grey.. Tordillo..bird of Argentine.
Hi. what was the name of the A4 pilot who was "towed" across the sea by the tanker on the return from the strike, please?
Dellepiane
@@fer111961 thankyou
@@johnvanzoest4532 Just some additional pieces of information: His full name is Guillermo Alberto Dellepiane and he was only 24 years old on the day of the attack. That day two FAA officers did not comply with the orders of their superiors: Vice Commodore Litrenta, in charge of the KC-130 (FAA number TC-69), that left his planned location and approached Dellepiane's A4 saving the plane and his life (C-130 FAA number TC-63 had already been shoot down so they know the risk they were exposed) and another official who (in an non-authorized flight) left the continent with his rescue helicopter and try to get as close as possible in case Dellepiane need help. As far as I know, both were symbolically sanctioned for these actions (this last must be verified. I'm not 100% sure) after the war. The full and actual audio of this actions (with Dellepiane voice asking for KC-130 assistance) can be found in youtube but, of course, it is in Spanish. There is also a picture taken with Dellepiane's A4 being linked to the KC-130 were the trail of fuel from the A4 is quite visible.
@@johnvanzoest4532 Years later Dellepiane become the military attache of the argentine Embassy at London. He attended several RN and RAF meetings and even meet the pilot of the british helicopter he shoot down.("'Lucky I didn't kill you.'" Dellepiane told him).
@@johnvanzoest4532 Just some additional pieces of information: His full name is Guillermo Alberto Dellepiane and he was only 24 years old on the day of the attack. That day two officers did not comply with the orders of their superiors: Vice Commodore Litrenta, in charge of the KC-130 (FAA number TC-69), that left his planned location and approached Dellepiane's A4 saving the plane and his life (C-130 FAA number TC-63 had already been shoot down so they know the risk they were exposed) and another official who (in an non-authorized flight) left the continent wit his rescue helicopter and try to get as close as possible in case Dellepiane need help. As far as I know both were symbolically sanctioned for these actions (this last must be verified. I'm not 100% sure). The full and actual audio of this actions (with Dellepiane voice asking for KC-130 assistance) can be found in youtube but, of course, it is in Spanish. There is also a picture taken with Dellepiane's A4 being linked to the KC-130 were the trail of fuel from the A4 is quite visible.
The A-4 is such a beautiful jet!
A totally unnecessary war (isn't that point of all wars)
Mostly yes. Though some, like WW2 are different
@@bigblue6917 Not sure I agree. The Argentines refused to move... It isn't that complex. Same in Israel at the moment. Israel had no choice. All pacifists say war is pointless until someone is punching them in the face. Oddly I think WW2 could have been avoided if the situation regarding the Versailles Treaty had not been so draconian. AH was popular because he achieved most of his objectives without firing a shot.
Good to fix fatal flaws plaguing the Royal Navy.
Si es verdad, no se que esperan para devolver lo robado..
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Because of the war the Argentinians have lost any chance of ever getting it back without fighting for it
as now the British have a grudge about it
I agree that it should have been Argentinian a long time ago
Greetings from Scotland 👍🏴
The Argentine air force was world class
Their bravery was (without doubt) first class, but their aircraft were 2nd rank, and their tactics were awful…
No it wasn't. They were tested by the country which invented the Air Force and lost. They were also using foreign equipment, as they could make their own.
@@stevenpayne9063go do further research before making sweeping comments. Opinion is not fact.
@@rodneypayne4827 It was facts.
@@sandgrownun66 according to whom? Let me guess, you are English right? Rewrite history to look better than you actually were. Here is some facts for you.
The Harrier radar was crap according to THE PILOTS that flew them in combat!
The Argentine Pilots and aircraft performance was excellent and skilled according to the Pilots that flew against them.
The Argentine soldiers fought hard, according to Paras that fought them.
All of this is publicly available from the people who experienced it.
Or do you know better than they do?
Great Video, too realistic !, Congratulations. The sound, your voice and the grafics are exelents. Un Abrazo Grande desde Argentina y Muchas Gracias !. Malvinas Argentinas!
Thank you very much, I'm glad you appreciate this content!
A Great video! A-4 were very versatile! Thanks!
Exocet. Excellent! 🤔
Many pilots loved their A4s and called them the Corvettes of fighters, due to their size and attributes. My company was doing mods on them in the 70s for different countries it was cool being up close to them & the F-104s.
Excellent pronunciation. Congrats. It was the last air raid but,Nonetheless, that wasn't the last mission for the Argentine Air Force. They were such badasses that they even flew on the last day of the war.
Thank you very much! Yes, I believe Canberras flew another mission after this one. I've wanted to cover the involvement of Argentine Canberras in the war. It seems like War Thunder might get the map of the islands soon and there will be a way to do it.
Excelente video muy bien editado los felicito saludos desde argentina buenos aires viva la patria carajo vamos a volver
Thank you for the comment!
with what military lmao
@@ElizabethII-1952 Well, on one hand, it's true, I don't think anyone's planning nor going to do anything even remotely resemblant. It's pretty much in nobody's mind. On the other hand, I believe that other than the intel fellows, most likely everyone in France and the whole World for what it's worth, must've said the same about the Germans in 1936-7.
Hola!!
5 minutes!!
Could this be your personal record? 😁
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82ND AIRBORNE
Personal Best!! This is a huge Deal!!
The A4s shown are a newer version than the ones that Argentina used. My father’s squadron of A4s were based out of El Toro Marine Air Station and perhaps at Los Alamitos Air Station when he retired as the base commander in ‘67. Years later he told me that his planes were sold to Argentina, and I found out they were apparently stripped down of the critical avionics. He was worried about the British because he knew the capabilities of the A4 . My father taught air combat at China Lake during the Vietnam period having flown combat missions during WW2 and Korea as well.
Yes, the airplane is not perfectly accurate but it is the only choice here. As explained.
Early in the Falklands war, a British submarine sunk the Argentine cruiser General Belgrano. Since the Argentine navy had no idea what had happened to it or how, they became risk averse and impotent. Then when aircraft flown all the way from Britain bombed the runway and rendered it useless for Argentine fighter jets, the war was lost for the Argentines.
The events depicted in this video were of insignificant impact, actual or potential. Britain had plenty of capable officers.
Not exactly, Had Argentina attacked the HMS invincible earlier(they actually found the British fleet before the British found them) they could have easily ensured a victory for Argentina.
@@tetraxis3011 I think not. To invade and take control of a large island or island group, you need control of the sea, so you can land ordinance, vehicles, construction equipment, and materials. The sinking of the General Belgrano by means unknown to the Argentines showed them that they did not have control of the sea. Which they didn't - if their navy had remained active, the British nuclear submarine could have simply snuck around and sunk a few more ships.
A belligerent could still achieve their aims, without control of the sea, if they could use a airport/runway to base fighter jets and land large transport aircraft. But the British bombed the only runway and prevented its use.
Destroying Invincible would not have altered that.
Surrender followed very quickly on the loss of runway use, as they had no way to quickly repair ir.
@@keithammleter3824 Let me correct you in one detail. The bombing of the runway by the Vulcan in Operation Black Buck I did not render it useless. Only one bomb hit the runway in the middle. The rest of the 9 ton bomb payload hit some tents, some parked aircraft and one post where 2 soldiers were killed. Black Buck II a few days missed the runway completely, only damaged a few parked aircraft. The runway remained operational until the last day of the war. C-130s, Aermacchis and Pucaras could operate with half the runway length.
@@FMAlchemist2006 I was aware only one bomb hit the actual runway. I did not say it was useless, I said it was useless for fighter jets and large transports.
The runway at Port Stanley at the time was 1280 metres long running approximately east-west. The bomb crater meant that only 914 metres was usuable. An empty C-130 (no fuel, no cargo) requires 610 to 762 metres to land, and fully laden it requires 920 to 1100 metres. To take off, a C-130 needs up to 1800 metres; about 1400 metres if half loaded.
Thus a C-130 could at a pinch in good wind conditions land, but it could not land with much of a load. It could not take off again unless it had no cargo and was quite low in fuel.
The Aeromachi MB-339 used by the Argentine airforce is a low speed training aircraft, of some value in a ground attack role. It needs less than 200 metres od runway but was hardly something that would put British victory at risk.
The Puccaras were low speed propellor aircraft, not in any stretch fighters - in any case most were destroyed on the ground.
Hence, as it often the case there is a bit of complexity in the detail, but essentially my statement that bombing the runway prevented the Argentines from using it for fighter jets and large transports and thus being a war winning thing is correct.
@@keithammleter3824 but the runway was never used for fighter jets. And the C-130s managed to operate even with the hole in the middle of the runway.
In late 2001 I crossed the Brazilian-Argentinian border. Near the border checkpoint there was a huge road sign there showing a map of the Falkland Islands which are known as Malvinas in Spanish. The caption on the sign said "Las Malvinas son Argentinas" meaning "The Falkland Islands are Argentinian". As of a few years ago the sign was still there. The conflict is still smoldering. I however was not able to find the sign again on streetview - maybe it finally has been removed.
Why doesn't Argentina just leave the Falkland Islander alone? They want to be British, and that's simply them exercising their right to self-determination.
If you think a road sign between Brazil and Argentina is what determines who owns the islands, then that's the kind of uneducated peasant logic that makes it no wonder you got your butts beat.
@@sandgrownun66 Argentina claims to have inherited the islands from Spain. In 1981 Argentina was governed by a military junta under General Leopoldo Galtieri and his popularity was low after just a few month in office so he tried to nice little war to bump his popularity. Didn't work and in the aftermath of the Falkland war Argentina returned to democracy; Galtieri eventually got court martialed and ended up in prison That's the very brief and simple version.
@@ralfbaechle I'm aware of the history of Argentina. They can claim to have inherited anything they like. Since when did the Spanish ever own the Falklands? They didn't bother about the islands at all. Spain claimed to own all of the Americas, except Brazil, the US and Canada. In reality it owned nothing. It just invaded, colonized, and stripped them bare of any valuables. Spain got so fat on what it looted, that it's Empire collapsed a century and a half before the others did.
At least Britain brought something, such as the many new industries wealth creating processes from her Industrial Revolution.
Thank you for sharing!
Casi los muchachos lo cazan a moore
Excelente!!!!!
In general, I'm not crazy about American weaponry design (from a purely aesthetic POV, your mileage may vary, and that's okay), but man, there are always exceptions. In the air, I LOVE the A-4 Skyhawk and the F-4 Phantom. Both SOOOO cool.
Excelente trabajo
Thank you very much, I'm glad you liked it!
It was the Russians that pinpointed the location of Brigadier Julian Thompson´s 3rd Commando Brigade in the second week of June 1982 and ofcourse the British air HMS Invincible in late May.
What game engine do you use for these videos? Looks great 👍
This one was made in DCS World. I also use War Thunder for a bunch of videos.
Saw one for sale a few years back. Million and a half in flying condition if memory serves. Didn't have enough pocket change.😂 If I was a millionaire though. I'd have bought it in a heart beat. Will always be my favorite bird to have worked on.
RIP Captain Carlos Varela, the ghost of Malvinas, with the A4 registration C222 (Gris, Tordillo).
I'm surprised the Sea King shoot down was not considered a kill based on the narrative here. It's flying, it gets shot, it has to do an emergency landing so as not to crash. Hmmm.
It was only a minor damage. They changed the rotor blade and it was fine. Had it been a total loss, it would have been a different thing.
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Thank you!
Hi People! Esa acción del avión me recuerda al gol del siglo de Maradona a Inglaterra en el Mundial 86 😮
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Hvala!
Gracias por el futbol y los trenes que hicieron grande nuestro pais 🇦🇷, dos veces no pudieron invadir buenos aires (1806,1807) en malvinas ganaron con ventaja...pero esas islas son nuestras en nuestro corazón.
Eterno amor/odio con ustedes ingleses.
Saludos
I am Argentine, and if it were up to us, we would still continue fighting and in battle for something that belongs to us, the Malvinas are and will always be Argentinas.
Or, you could perhaps focus on economy and make Argentina reach its full potential?
Make a video about the aerial combat between a Texan and a Gloster Meteor, which happened in 1955 in Argentina.
Thank you for the suggestion.
The US Navy gave the British first hand information on the A-4’s
As did Australia and New Zealand
The Islands are the Falkland Islands. They are not, nor have they ever been, the Malvinas as per International Laws.
Correct. Discovered by the English and settled by the British. The Argentines showed little interest in the islands, until it suited them to do so.
@@sandgrownun66 yes Galtieri was very unpopular with the people at the time and I believe he thought that snatching the Falklands Isles from the British would awaken a jingoistic spirit and make him popular with the people. His mistake was in grossly underestimating British grit - Brits saw it as an attempt to bully those few islanders and that had we abandoned them to their fate it would encourage other would be tin pot dictators to take liberties. In a matter of a few days an impressive task force even configuring merchant vessels to hep transport troops, equipment and supplies to help reverse the invasion. That said many Brits me included regretted the loss of life on BOTH sides because we knew the whole conflict was started as a result of an incompetent General and would be dictator wanting to improve his bloody PR!
1. the discovery of the islands are quite disputed, the alleged discovery by Davis in 1592 is doubtful when you can find the islands in Portuguese maps since 1520. Discovery alone didn't constitute a solid enough act to give sovereignty back then, it had to be followed by a formal claim and occupation, something that didn't happen with Davis, Hawkins or Strong, whom might be the first to land in 1690.
2. a British expedition sponsored by Adml. Anson in 1749 was aborted due to the Spanish Crown's protests alleging that despite there was no physical presence, the islands were in Spanish dominions. Britain cancelled the endeavor, which constitutes an indirect recognition of Spanish sovereignty.
3. The French ended up being the first to claim and settle the islands in 1764, a whole year before Byron's clandestine landing and claim, while McBride erected an outpost in 1766. In no point Britain was alone settling in the islands, because the French recognized the Spanish sovereignty and handed their settlement in 1767.
4. the Spanish found the British squatters in 1769 and evicted them in 1770, starting a crisis that was defused by allowing the British return in 1771, under the formal declaration that it didn't constitute a recognition of British sovereignty.
5. The British left for good in May 1774, never protesting or challenging the 32 Spanish and 5 Argentine governors, any claim prescribed by acquiescence after 55 years of complete silence. They had absolutely no right to take them from Argentina that was already settled in 1833.
6. the British outpost in Pt. Egmont was destroyed, the famous plaque left by the last officer was sent to Buenos Aires, captured again by the British troops that invaded Buenos Aires in 1806, was sent to London and once more, the British Crown didn't protest.
7. Argentina formed its first local govt. in May 1810, declared independence in Jul 1816, claimed publicly the Falklands in Nov 1820, and was recognized by Britain by the Friendship Treaty of Feb 1825, while Argentina was starting to settle the islands since 1823.
8. The taking of possession of 1820 was a public act executed by an Argentine official (Col. David Jewett of the Argentine Navy) of which the British Government was fully aware, and to which it did not react in any way. Around fifty whalers of different nationalities, including British were present, and the news were also published in Spain, the US and The Times of London in Aug 1821.
9. Spain formally recognized the Argentine Independence in 1863, explicitly acknowledging the Argentine territory as every land administered by the River Plate Vice royalty until 1810, which includes the Falklands.
@@martindione386 I ain't reading all what you wrote. I've already devoted enough time to it already. So let's keep it simple.
The first person to set foot on those islands was English, and it was and is settled by British people. Argentinians weren't going to go to the trouble of setting up a thriving community like the British did. The British are a seafaring nation who love to explore. Argentina never was. They just wanted the islands, just because they happened to be nearest to them. Being closest to another piece of land, does not mean you automatically own it. It's who lives there, who own it. There are many examples of this around the world. Often a result of European colonialism. The French still own a chunk of South America, and nobody objects to that. The Falklands are not even connected to Argentina. They are 1,000km away. Such a distance is more than the size of many countries in the world.
@@sandgrownun66 you ain't reading all that? Well That's exactly the problem, because the history of the dispute occupies entire books, yet you think that you know everything you need. I'm not the problem, it is voluntarily ignorant people like you that get emotional at the first attempt of a rational explanation. Luckily there are other intelligent people that follows this channel that might be interested in reading and have an adult discussion.
The islands are 500 km from the coast, btw.
Just some additional pieces of information about this attack: Argentine pilot's full name is Guillermo Alberto Dellepiane and he was only 24 years old on the day of the attack. That day two officers did not comply with the orders of their superiors: Vice Commodore Litrenta, in charge of the KC-130 (FAA number TC-69), that left his planned location and approached Dellepiane's A4 saving the plane and his life (C-130 FAA number TC-63 had already been shoot down so they know the risk they were exposed) and another official who (in an non-authorized flight) left the continent wit his rescue helicopter and try to get as close as possible in case Dellepiane need help. As far as I know both were symbolically sanctioned for these actions (this last must be verified. I'm not 100% sure) right after the war. The full and actual audio of this actions (with Dellepiane voice asking for KC-130 assistance) can be found in youtube but, of course, it is in Spanish. There is also a picture taken with Dellepiane's A4 being linked to the KC-130 were the trail of fuel from the A4 is quite visible.
Dellepiane flew almost all the leg back to base hooked to the KC-130.
Apparently there were no casualties suffered by the British on that attack.. i couldn't find any soruces which stated the commanders tent was shredded either. No helicopters destroyed.
Julian Thompson says in his memoirs that the command tent was full of shrapnel holes. Also, the helicopters were damaged, nobody says they were destroyed.
Les dieron un gran dolor de cabeza,a la armada inglesa,..in gran pequeño avion el A4,..
Epico👏👏👏
Thank you for the comment!
IMAGINE a force consisting on a halve of A-4, which are technologically less advanced and the others of F-16's. All painted with radar absorbing paint!
PUEDEN RECREAR EL ATAQUE AL PORTAVIONES ? donde se lanzó el último misil EXOCET, y cayeron dos alcones...?...o no se enteraron
Malvinas NO FUCKLAND
Did they sink the invincible (again) whilst it was parked up on the moors????
Vamos a volver por nuestras tierras.
They arent your lands lol
¿Podrías emular las misiones secretas del Escuadrón Fénix? Eran aviones Learjet.
Los pilotos argentinos en la guerra fueron muy valientes
Honrramos y celebramos a nuestros caidos siempre 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷. Pero somos concientes que esa guerra no fue por amor a la patria fue un intento desesperado de un gobierno defacto en decadencia por salvar su situación
Después de leer un artículo de uno de sus periódicos esta mañana: "No se trata de tener el mejor armamento, si no de ser inteligente para saber usarlo..." Hoy la paz, la seguridad y la integridad de los habitantes del planeta son prioridad por encima de cualquier intento de generar o de hacer una guerra..."
Siempre junto a Dios y La Justicia, algo que ustedes desconocen, por robar tierras que no les corresponden. Hoy más que nunca la memoria y la verdad son nuestras.
🇦🇷 VIVA LA PATRIA 🇦🇷
Atte Un Argentino.
are you the showtime who dogfights growling sidewinder?
Afraid not
Viva La Patria!! 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
Long Live Corruption.
@@sandgrownun66 if You like!
@@user-cf2nb4td8y No. Corruption is terrible. Why can't the countries who engage in it. Stop it. The way English speaking countries do.
@@sandgrownun66 devuelvan las islas robadas.-
Islas Malvinas.argentinas.!
This was the only chance Argentina had to recover Las Malvinas and they failed. I still don't understand why they failed. How they missed so many chances. I guess the reason was, they never really wanted to recover the islands back. It was all a stunt by the military Junta to keep the Armed Services from making a coup.
"Recover" implies they owned them previously. Which they didnt.