Phylida and Pagani Speedmaster "homages" comparison

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  • čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
  • If you've found this on CZcams please make your way over to my blog post for more detail and context.
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Komentáře • 30

  • @jorgerobles628
    @jorgerobles628 Před 6 měsíci +7

    IMHO, A very Nice and very objective review of some of the best Moonwatch homage watches in the street!!!!! I have the Pagani, The Corgeut and the Phylida Homage watches together with more than 250 Chronos including 19 Omega Speedmaster that I have gotten through the years since 1970, and in term of appearance, functionality, closeness to the Speedmaster and finishing, my order is Phylida, Pagani and Corgeut in 3rd place. I wear ALL my Chrono watches with the metal bracelet they came with, no NATO or any other crap straps, just the pure metal, and ALWAYS three chronos per wrist!!! In terms of operation, the Phylidar is the best coz it has a Mechanical movement, the Seagul ST 1903, a derivative of the Venus 175 caliber. This caliber uses a 7-pillar Column wheel to control the start/stop of the chrono function. In terms of columns wheels, the more pillars it has, the smoother it works. The Rolex 4130 uses a 6-pillar column wheel, as are the Co-Axial Chronos from Omega, while Caliber Omega 321 uses an 8-pillar column wheel, as well as many older classic chrono movements like El Primero and Longines 13ZN. The Bezel on the Pagani is in Ceramic, and the markings are closer to the Speedmaster than the Phylida, including the dot-over-90. But the Pagani and the Corgeut use a VK-63 MechaQuartz from Seiko that returns to zero like the original mechanic movement. The Corgeut finishes third coz although it works slightly smoother than the Pagani, the rest of it is a mix of different Omega models from different times in a single model, and it looks "cacophonic". But look, I have been stopped in the street and asked to show my Moonwatch when wearing any of them, and that is something to talk about. So wear any of them with confidence, except for the Phylida. The Phylida has that Chinese movement that is more expensive to fix than the whole watch itself, but its looks are gorgeous!!!!

    • @finophile
      @finophile  Před 6 měsíci +1

      wow, thanks for your very detailed and informative post👌
      I'm a bit worried about this bit:
      > and ALWAYS three chronos per wrist!!!
      but the sentiment is well noted

    • @sK3LeTvM1
      @sK3LeTvM1 Před 4 měsíci

      Finally some one who also doesn't like those crappy Nato straps. Chrono's should have metal bracelets. End of story. A Speedmaster with a leather or any other than metal bracelet is for hairdressers and pussies. 🙂

  • @sinjinadams2862
    @sinjinadams2862 Před 10 měsíci +1

    This was a really nice review and comparison of these two watches. I own both of them and like them both but I am definitely partial to the Phylida. The ST19 movement is really nice to look at.

    • @finophile
      @finophile  Před 10 měsíci

      I hope you also found the blog post in the description, which gives you more insight.
      Happy you found value in it

  • @davidmilne9683
    @davidmilne9683 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I've had the Phylida for a few years now. Well worth the $$. You'll be hard pressed to find a fully mechanical movement at that price point. The Seagull ST19 is quality.

    • @finophile
      @finophile  Před 9 měsíci

      agreed, and having returned my Cadisen because of pusher issues I'll say its also about how well the Phylida is assembled around the movement.

  • @kermitaner
    @kermitaner Před měsícem +1

    Just oderered the phylida today at Ali . Phyli Store, for 175€. I Like the movement :- )

    • @finophile
      @finophile  Před měsícem

      for what its worth I gave my Pagani to a friend (who needed a reliable watch) and kept my Phylida ... Hope its as good for you as it has been for me

  • @nickjohnson217
    @nickjohnson217 Před rokem +1

    Nice little insight of each of these watches, they both have there own pro’s and cons, but to be fair both are lovely homages and I’d be proud to own either, maybe some day I will, I do love the movement in the phylida the seagull St1903 is a very underestimated movement but the only drawback is the parts are nigh impossible to get if they need a new part, my advice is get it serviced as much as you can to stop it from wearing any part my friend. 🙏👍😉👏👏👏

    • @finophile
      @finophile  Před rokem

      The Phylida is growing on me and while I have preference for the hands on the Pagani I'm getting used to the Phylida.
      I'm wearing the them both once a week, I don't think I'll sell them.

    • @Stephen.C.
      @Stephen.C. Před 7 měsíci +1

      serviced? Cheaper to buy a new one than have it serviced.

  • @rephaelhadary
    @rephaelhadary Před 11 měsíci +1

    Thanks!!! Where can I buy the PHYLIDA ?

    • @finophile
      @finophile  Před 11 měsíci +1

      AliExpress only AFAIK ... I personally would be also looking at reddit chineseWatches site for second hand sales, but Ali will get you one now

    • @ivoshandor6859
      @ivoshandor6859 Před 7 měsíci

      @@finophileGood luck. They sell as soon as they’re posted.

  • @darkchocolate4643
    @darkchocolate4643 Před rokem +1

    LOL @ "the emphAsis of the syllAbles".

  • @NhanNguyen-ci6bb
    @NhanNguyen-ci6bb Před 3 měsíci

    Is the crown screwed in or just pushed in and out?

    • @finophile
      @finophile  Před 3 měsíci

      the question is ambiguous so:
      * phylida only has push in option
      * to my knowledge the crown on the Pagani was pushed and screwed in (as I never leave it unscrewed and I'd had no reason to fiddle with it in taking this.

    • @NhanNguyen-ci6bb
      @NhanNguyen-ci6bb Před 3 měsíci

      @@finophile So phylida is not water resistant?

  • @NhanNguyen-ci6bb
    @NhanNguyen-ci6bb Před 5 měsíci

    Did you drill extra holes in the lugs of the Pagani design?

    • @finophile
      @finophile  Před 5 měsíci

      No, it happened to come that way. Discussion on reddit suggested others got this too. I don't know if it's an error or a plan

    • @NhanNguyen-ci6bb
      @NhanNguyen-ci6bb Před 5 měsíci

      @@finophile I think this is necessary when installing leather straps

    • @NhanNguyen-ci6bb
      @NhanNguyen-ci6bb Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@finophile I thought you drilled the lug yourself so I wanted to ask you how to drill it

    • @finophile
      @finophile  Před 5 měsíci

      @@NhanNguyen-ci6bb one needs specialist tools

    • @finophile
      @finophile  Před 5 měsíci

      @@NhanNguyen-ci6bb it wouldn't be if they'd put the hole in the right place in the first place and I've never seen any other watch yet with two holes. I discuss it more in my blog post here.
      cjeastwd.blogspot.com/2023/02/pagani-design-speedmaster.html

  • @sK3LeTvM1
    @sK3LeTvM1 Před 4 měsíci

    I have both watches. I like them both. However, the pushers of the Phylida are way to far 'out' in comparison with the Pagani. The Pagani is a very beautiful design, imho more intrestings than the original Speedmaster which I also own the Professional and Reduced.

  • @cash3806
    @cash3806 Před rokem +1

    😊 Promo-SM

    • @finophile
      @finophile  Před rokem +1

      no ads that pay me, nothing monetised on my blog; so no, its all about just helping people who are interested. So much bullshit and repetitive fluff out there I know I can't make a significant difference but I try.