Nicklas Lidstrom Joined Spittin' Chiclets To Discuss The HATRED Between Colorado And Detroit
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- The Colorado Avalanche and Detroit Red Wings have one of the best rivalries in NHL history. Hockey Hall of Famer and Stanley Cup Champion Nicklas Lidstrom joined Spittin' Chiclets on episode 207 and discussed the hatred between the two.
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There is literally nothing about Nick Lidstrom I don’t like and respect. One of the best ever.
I disagree wholeheartedly here ... I really dislike the fact he had to retire ! Lol . You’re absolutely right though Nick is just one of those rare humans that are extremely level headed and even tempered... down to earth as it comes ... yet in reality he’s basically a superhuman as well lol
Ultimate Man Rocket 🚀
I have 1 thibg. He was a Red Wing and not a Leaf. But thats all, probably the best defenseman since Bobby Orr
I don't like that he was a Redwing...
@@williammontroy9024 His hockey IQ is next level Jesus teir. Best positional D man ever. Lids could always see the play before anyone else and play the angles perfectly to take away your scoring chance or fire one to Holmstrom.
Will go down as one of the best sports rivalries in history. The passion from both sides, the importance for the Wings to win in 1997 after losing to them in 1996. The AVs were basically the crappy Quebec Nordiques turned into a major hockey powerhouse in the 90s and early 2000s (and now they are back as favorites to win the Cup in 2022)...and the Wings being this historic, storied franchise that had risen from the dead...only to be stunted in 94, 95 and 96...left in near desperation in 97. Fabulous display of intense hockey, full of skill and grit. If you lived through it...you know how important it was. As a Wings fan...the memories are everlasting.
It’s crazy...way back when he joined Detroit, it was clear Lidstrom was a good player, and Paul Coffey was there to show him the offensive game.
I think about all the other legends that Nick has played defence with...Coffey, Chelios, Fetisov, Duchesne, Konstantinov, Rafalski, Schneider etc and Lidstrom is levels above all of them.
It’s blasphemous to think of anyone other than Howe of Yzerman as all time greatest Redwing, but Lidstrom belongs in that untouchable group.
I feel like they should retire the all time champ of fighting in the nhl PROBIE. Since that is more taxing than anything. Growing up for me it was always Probert! Loved Lidstrom he gave me many years of enjoyment. Did he ever get into a fight?
Larry Murphy
@@theodorebelmont7922 I definitely missed Larry Murphy and he belongs here too.
@@osiris3550 its ok. Hes probably one of the most underrated D men of all time
@@gunnnervader7396 He did get credited with a fighting major against Mark Tinordi in the Wings vs Caps brawl. He didn't fare too well if I remember right.
Being a Hawks fan, I hated those red Wings Teams because they were so good but Lidstrom was one of the best D men I've ever seen. I played D all through Jr's and College. Never liked to admit it being a Hawks fan but he was on another planet.
Its hard not to like certain players whether on your team or not. Lids def being one of them.
Right back at ya with Keith. Hard to hate players of their skill
lidstrom and datsyuk are some of the most respected players of all time
You never played beyond PeeWee B bro
@@bucknastay7244 HAha ok Bender, back to the C league pigeon. I bet you're a big Sean Avery guy
Greatest Defensemen Ever. Period.
No. That would be Bobby Orr.
That’s Bobby ORR
@O K You might consider Orr a one-way guy because he had the puck everytime he was on the ice. He was superb defenively and could take the puck off of the attacking forwards. If he'd played another five seasons he'd have five more Norris Trophies. He was a brilliant passer and even when he would have been slowed down by age he'd still be the master on defence. A remarkable talent. No one like him.
@O K You go by silly, made-up analytics. I'lll go by my eyes. Ray Bourque is second to Orr.
@O K Every opinion is "made up" by the person who gives it as his own. Duh. Exactly what has analytics ever proven to be of any significant importance or worth except by people who never played sports.
Legend! Being a kid during that rivalry was the best.
Avs fan over here, but Lidström is pure class
Most of us in Detroit feel that way about Joe Sakic (he's a class act and had a great career)!
Nick is all class, How lucky we were !! P.S. also a great defenseman
Yet Cindy Crosby wouldn't shake his hand........
Remember watching that game live on ESPN. I’ll never forget Brendan Shanahan’s flying close line of Patrick Roy who in turn, got tuned up by Mike Vernon. Can’t believe that was 22 years ago.
Roy didn't get tuned Lmao
welch3319 yeah, he did. Then Osgood tuned him up the following season.
@@aaronw8781 nah.... Lol
Take your Red Wings blinders off. Without Lindstrom ... That team would had never won shit back then.
Met Nick Lindstrom at the Icebox in Brownstown, Michigan one winter. My team was waiting for our game and a rumor started to buzz through the whole arena that Lindstrom was there. This was 2010/2011 so he was still playing, and our coach evidently walked right up to him and introduced his team to Nick, Tomas Holmstrom (who had a broken arm) and a guy I couldn’t recognize. He spoke to us about our game for a few mins, signed a couple autographs ( I had a red wings starter jacket at the time and it’s now one of my most prized possessions ) but said when the game started we needed to leave bc he was there to watch his nephew. Incredibly polite, he didn’t have to talk to us but he did, and didn’t wanna a miss a second of his nephew play. Hall of fame player and person
Lidstrom was the best of his era......was a pleasure to watch his career. 😎👍
top 10 all time player
@@trendybistro you're a fucking moron
Bedgypooks pass the joint bro I gotta try some of that
Bedgypooks You don’t know hockey plain and simple
I’m in my 40s and I’ve seen a lot of guys and he’s easily one of the best I ever saw play
@@ajww1329 dude won 7 Norris's in the modern era
that story about sitting in the bar with Bourque...put THAT in the title, that one really got me in the feels
You would never know he was Swedish when he talks.... probably the best import ever for many reasons
The perfect human being
you can tell he's foreign but agreed. the guy speaks English super well.
try finding an American who can speak Swedish like the way Lidstrom speaks English lmao
Man growing up in Michigan going to hockey games with old heads.. I’ve heard these stories a million times and honestly it’s a dead horse for me and my family. It’s like holy hell I know the story as if I was there.
refreshing to hear lidstrom over Darren talking about it though
The rivalry that got me into hockey
Guys this was absolutely fucking awesome, listened to this 3 times through already. Please post the whole video! Would be super sick if you guys could possibly get Larkin or Zetterberg on here!
Awesome to hear Nick mention the great Ray Bourque. Shows his class.... :)
Great guy/player - got to meet him during Round 1 of 2011 playoffs. He was meeting up with Douglas Murray for dinner. Got a dual puck signed by him and got the Mrs. to ask Murray to sign the Sharks side as had bothered him more than once that day. Murray asked her in front of Nicky who the best D-Man was on that puck and her answer was Murray and Nicky laughed his head off since Dougie has a scary presence 😂
You guys should have the guy from "The Hockey Guy" youtube channel as a guest.
@RUhere4the TRIGGERING Say what you want, but there's no one else posting content as often as him who's as passionate about the game.
@RUhere4the TRIGGERING what a weird thing to say
@RUhere4the TRIGGERING I call complete devotion to hockey and videos about the league and the game in general passion. Let's agree to disagree, bud.
Yea , he is also pretty biased , nice guy but boring AF , biz would call him a nerd and mostly likely pull his sweaters over his head. Allot of his stuff isn’t for making good content , but rather for click counts.
@RUhere4the TRIGGERING Ok? lol. Dude I don't care that much. I never thought I'd have to defend the hockey guy. He's a good guy. Why you hyef to b mad?
Gotta get Burnaby Joe and Stevie Y on the podcast!
Wow I miss those playoff series’
His team nickname was very fitting......The Perfect Human!
I know everyone drools over Bobby Orr, but I’ve always been a bigger fan of Lidstrom. He played in an era where points were very hard to come by, goalies were so much better than in the 70’s. He rarely if ever got beat one on one and still put up great numbers. Top pk d man and top pp qb.
Hes no Bobby Orr lets get that straight right now lol
Glen Ferguson he’s better lmao, should of broke orrs record
@@Jack-iu5um Can't recall Lidstrom winning two scoring titles. Lidstrom played 20 years. Orr played parts of 12.
Your right, he is not Bobby Orr… Lidstrom played against Hall Of Famers every night, Orr played against 70pt playoff teams every night…
@@jackbowie3594 You can't be that dumb or know so little aboult who Orr played against. Here's a small example:
Jean Ratelle, Serge Savard, Brad Park, Jean Believeau, Bobby Hull, Stan Mikita, Gilbert Perreault, Jacques Lemaire, Marcell Dionne, Bernie Parent, Bobby Clarke, Dave Keon etc. etc. All Hall of Famers. Now go away and follow baseball or soccer for heaven's sake.
Nick is a class act!!! Glad he's back where he belongs.
Big get for the pod boys, well done.
I have a classic story to tell. We were Avs season ticket holders back in the day, I had two kids son 8 years old and daughter 6 years old. we hated the Wings. 96-97 season when the rivalry was red hot, Avs hosting the Wings with more than a few RedWing fans sitting in our section that night there was plenty of trash talking haha Wings score a goal, a Wings fan was a little out of control, she started yelling and pushing people as part of her celebration. The ushers started to escort her out as we were all taunting her, at the bottom of the stairs before she goes through the tunnel she turns to the crowd flips us off, instantly dozens of beers, sodas and popcorn rained down on her. My daughter yells out "fuck her up" out of the blue, half the people cheered half looked at me as if I were Satin. I said, what it is only a word, the context is what matters and I am okay with it. haha She eventually played her hockey in the ECAC Division I, and played in the Frozen Four. Now as we look back and reminisce, she said the intensity of those games and excitement ignited her passion for hockey. I guess I need to thank the Redwings for her full ride scholarship hahaha She also talks about how lame the sport as become with the lack of raw emotion from the players today. Hockey was a sport of courage/honor, now it is the "face of the franchise" sport. BORING
Hockey definitely ain’t what it used to be, but it’s still the beat sport there is. i’d rather watch an awful nhl game 10 times over than watch an nba game
top 5 player and top 5 interview, good one boys
is it possible to find the full interviews on here or they only for the pod casts ?
please get him on for a full interview !
Biz was dressed like he was only doing audio
Adam underrated comment
Yeah cuz Whit and RA are going to prom after
Lidstrom could have kept playing a few more years. His last season at 42 he put up 11 goals and 23 assists in 70 games.
He was finished in 2012. He looked bad that playoffs
And how many goals did he prevent? He was unreal.
@@tomace194 check his stats from that playoffs bud
@@davidkruse4030yes let’s stat watch to try and label someone “finished”, especially a top 3 defenseman of all time that was still producing. Lidstrom dealt with a fractured ankle at the end of that season that he played through into the playoffs. If you don’t actually follow the subject you’re talking about, you could at least do an ounce of research or help yourself by not typing at all.
I met Nick Lidstrom once. Absolute nicest guy in the world. I don't mean cordial or "nice for an athlete." I'm talking anyone who's met the guy for five minutes would probably want their daughter to date him.
One of the all time greats
I've never seen RA until now. I always thought he was like a 65 year old guy. Very mature. Cool shit guys
THE BEST D-MAN TO EVER PLAY.
Orr?
No hockey podcast can even touch you guys. Great interview.
Except every Redwings podcast available 😂😂😂
Grey Ford ya buddy your team doesn’t have a chicken dicks chance in hell of making the playoffs so keep your hopes up. maybe another 5 years till you get a sniff 😂 Go B’s baby.
Doctor Goosegg How many cups do the Bruins have? How many cups do the wings have?
Nice to know that even our heroes have heroes.
World class guy and player. How did he end up on your show🤷♂️
Just kidding love your show. It is great to hear what players are really like. 😎
The guys' comments about Liddy with Syd speaks for us all when asked the question "Who was the greatest d-man in the modern era?"
#Respect
He's like a euro Howe. Class skill and dedication.
By far the best rivalry of the late 90s.
What amazes me about Nick (& i was fortunate to watch him his whole career) was how well he took to the language. he speaks English better than most Americans. & i dare say my Swedish isn't nearly that good...... 😉🙃
I’m Swedish too. You shouldn’t be amazed. Swedish is very similar to English. They may seem very different on first glance but most of the differences are systematic so a lot of it is just about learning patterns. Pretty quickly you get a feel for it and you can sort of guess the meaning of many English words, a lot of the time you can even guess what the English word will be even before looking it up. Most of the irregular nouns and verbs are the same, the grammar is basically the same, etc, etc. So you get maybe 50% of the language for free right off the bat. If you then consider that English is taught as one of the core subjects in school (only math and Swedish are considered as important as English) to all kids from early elementary school, plus the fact that the culture is absolutely inundated with English (90% of songs and movies are in English; nothing is dubbed) it’s really not surprising that most people learn pretty good English, it’s almost a bilingual society (almost but not quite). If you then on top of that go and live in an English-speaking country for 20 years like Lidström did, then if you sound almost like a native after a few years well that’s really nothing special, it’s normal.
On the flip side, if you aren’t comfortable with English you can’t even go to college since most of the textbooks are in English. And traveling abroad will be almost impossible. You have no choice, you have to get good at it.
@@boreopithecus thanks for the tip..... I speak French and a little Dutch..... so i'll take a look at Swedish
Goat
Im an Av fan,& other than hating he was so good,& helped cost us at least 2 Cups(we did beat them 3-2 in playoffs series-but they won 2 of 3 WCFs,& got 3 Cups to 2-during that era)-I could never hate him or Stevie Y-like everybody else on that team.
I started closely following the nhl with this rivalry-& hes still the best dman ive ever seen. I didnt see Ray Bourques prime-except highlights-& he might have it on resume.But Lindstrom is the best ive seen if u factor eye test,& resume.
Great job boys
Hello Jose? Can you say CHRIS DRAPER?
The Rivalries in Hockey are so far beyond the other major US sports . The Hate is real but also the begrudging respect. As a life long Bruins fan beating the Canadians is bested only by winning the Cup
Is there anywhere I can buy pink Whitney in southern ontario?
Come to the north. Wioooooooo
D R came once in 06... not again until I win the lottery
Funny watching Whit be kind of nervous talking to someone
He could’ve easily won more than seven. But you know the NHL isn’t gonna allow anyone to break Bobby Orr’s record, especially a Swede.
I’ve been saying this for years
absolutely correct.
Nick is not Bobby Orr! LOL...has Nick ever won the NHL scoring championship! I don't think so! LOL....Orr won the Art Ross Trophy 2 times. Only scored 9 hat tricks as D man. And there are more records, if you want, just look at the NHL history videos or books...LOL
@Joe Sudz Bobby Orr was better than Lidstrom. Ask Lidstrom and he would tell you himself! LOL
@Joe Sudz Orr would say Harvey is the best!
some tough hockey back then
Not really lidstrom played in the superstar era the 1990s sure were tough but they were the most talented
@@hugh2hoob668. Ever watch a game between Detroit and Colorado ???
Biz should be wearing a fanny pack to match the 80s cut off tshirt
Guys a beauty eh. What a man rocket
I went to most of those games Avs-Wings in Colorado.Great atmosphere!Lots of Wings fans at our rink.I understand,would you want to always be in Detroit?
Funny how people that knock Detroit have never been there.
I live near Detroit and it's not great...honest assessment, a lot of people romanticize the city but the reality is it's a pretty f'd up place. Unfortunate...it could be, should be a great city.
Best two way defenseman of all time
Orr was easily.....
French Connection if Orr would of played over 20 seasons (which he didn’t) then he would be the greatest. He only was in the league for 7 years and that’s a shame. People are allowed to have opinions...smh
French Connection something tells me u never saw lidstrom or Orr play. My dad saw both and said that Orr was one dimensional. Oh and for the record, I’m not a fan of ether team.
For the record D-Mac got a double minor for whipping Lemieux.
Greatest d man of all time
No 2 D man of all time
@@RoamHockey I've watched all those guys, Potvin IMO was a bit overrated compared to the rest. I would put Lidstrom ahead of Borque and on par with Robinson.
In his 3 Norris Runner up seasons he DEF deserved to win it in ‘01 season ! McGinnis winnin was a joke
French Connection al macinnis
BUT, BUT, HE HAS SUCH A HEAVY SLAP SHOT!!!
I always liked Nik Lidstrom even though I despised the team he played for. Probably the smoothest most complete defenseman of my lifetime. Maybe Makar will surpass him in accolades and production, but I’d wait until he’s been in the league 10 years before anointing him that title.
Lidstrom is such a gentleman of the game. Easily top 3 D men all time
1.Orr 2. Bourque 3. Lidstrom.
Smart move negotiating your own contract if you are at the caliber of Lidstrom.
I was a avs fan during that rivalry, the best fight was between Roy and osgood.
I think Roy vs Vernon was better
The Winged Wheel has been worn by some special guys. Dude was $ on the blue line.
If there was 3rd cup between Pittsburgh & Detroit in 2010
The Avs Wings series wouldve been forgotten ...
We had a stanely cup finals rivarly
Hard to believe him and IKEA were made in the same place
Lidstrom took a piss on that IKEA rug and it tied the room together.
How can anyone not like Lidstrom
Biz looks like he just got out of prison in this lmfao
Sorry nic it started with Foote getting his head driven in the boards with no call
At one point, the NHL was the most exciting sport in the world.
Nick and Orr are the greatest defenseman of all time
orr in his own class lindstrom and larry robinson next level down
@RUhere4the TRIGGERING not excited
Top 10 sure but not "the best"
There's this guy named, Ray Bourque...
@Barrack Ebola one cup, 5 norris trophies
Lot of loyalty to Boston, prevented more cups
The perfect human. Hated Detroit, awestruck by Lidstrom.
Avs never had a problem. We upset them in 1996 when they were favored big time and the rest was them having a tantrum
Is Nick the Tim Duncan of Hockey?
Mike Saks except more legendary
Mike Saks he’s arguably the best defenceman of all time
Nick Dobro um Duncan is undoubtably the greatest power forward of all time
This is a perfect analogy
dude that Red wings team had 9 hall of famers easily
The rivalry may not have been the same as the Avalanche vs Red Wings. But the Dallas Stars were in the mix with these teams. They didn't like each other. And in my opinion Belfour outplayed Roy when it counted most.
He speaks better English than anyone on the panel.
2nd best d man ever
Correction, It was some red wings player that smashed Foote's face into the glass that kicked it all off!
CAPT AVALANCHE holy fuck bud his name was Slava Kozlov. Hey there were these two Avalanche players #19 and #21 I cant remember who they were but they were pretty decent I guess.
mason mills this dude is actually offended that you didnt remember Kozlov’s name lol
@Joe Sudz True story. I was at a DU game wearing a Red Wings hat. Adam Foote had his son there and his seats were right next to mine. I said Hi to him and he refused to acknowledge me, then left his seats halfway through the first and watched from the concourse.
@Joe Sudz This was 2008, he probably has gotten over it by now. One would hope!
@@masonmills5917 Joe Sacklick and Peter Foreskin?
Biz looking like an escaped convict.
As a Colorado fan I still hate Detroit
Yeah we don't like you either.
Avs fans still mad when Roy pulled his 'Statue of Liberty' stunt in 2002, but without the puck, and Stevie Y, and Shanny were there to pounce on it like a pittbull on a porkchop!
These Red Wings fans sound way angrier than any Avs fan lmao. What a bunch of salty extras.
@@lelouchvibritannia4028 lol
@@lelouchvibritannia4028 At least the Red Wings fans are usually not as braindead retarded as Avs fans. They've got that going for them.
Avs are taking the cup this year
Haha flames kick them out in 4 buddy
@@stumpy408 lmao sure
@@stumpy408 isn't that what you said last year
1stump 1 lol bro the flames are BARELY in the WC 2 spot... gotta make the playoffs first.
People seem to forget the cheap shot by Kozlov on Foote is what started everything.
Exactly, when Kozlov smashed his face into the glass. The Lemieux hit on Draper was brutal, and I can understand why Detroit was angry, but it is definitely not what started it all.
Cheap shot? Watch the replay again. Kozlov is a skilled player and was repeatedly speared in the ribs by Foote when going around the net. Foote was a dirty POS. He had it coming one way or the other.
sergeontheloose bud Kozlov jumped and smashed his head into the glass.
sergeontheloose czcams.com/video/MdKusPhRHAM/video.html
Not a cheap shot eh bud? Ooook.
@@Aebischer1984 This was not the first time Foote tried to "abuse" Kozlov and it backfired. The thinking was "we could intimidate those russians with dirty tactics" and it backfired right into his face into the glass.
I kick myself for not watching him more when he was I t he league. I was a leaf fan so not very smart
Ehhh not bad for a 3rd round pick.. lol..
RA is so fidgety, he literally cannot sit still. But he does ask great interview questions.
Please get that bald goon off of the podcast
At least Lids knows that Mac shoulda been tossed in that goon game as well. NHL refs at their worst.
the fuck is biz wearing????
Get ready for the youtube virtue signaling.."I'm not a red wings fan but..."
I'm not a Red wings fan but... I'm a swede, and swedes loves Nick. Simple as that.
I’m not a Red Wings fan, but I’m a Red Wings fan
Those red wings teams where some of the dirtiest teams in hockey history.
Zzzzzzzzzz, zero insight, nothing new
It was a real nasty rivalry, but the Canadiens vs Nordiques, and the Canadiens vs Bruins were Wilder and nastier.
yep, in the 80s because of the divisional structures, they had to through each other every single year in the playoffs. so intense.