Those who don’t want to pay Tua and move on from him should understand two things; Dolphins are prudent not to pay Tua and if Tua is gone, Dolphins will be worse.
You can’t move on from him until you move on from him. He is good, I hope great but unfortunately compared to the rest of the AFC QB’s, he’s not top tier. Tua fanatics SHOULD turn their anger to the team. I’m not saying he will not get signed, I’m saying that the time that has transpired between when he was eligible for a extension/new deal should have slowly started screaming at you about what they think. People, Teams and especially the government LIE TO YOU. If you haven’t grasped that, I feel bad for you. Actions are the only communication with truth in it nowadays. Maybe adjust?
We have been looking for a franchise quarterback for years, even if you don’t like Tua, he’s still a good quarterback, good quarterback are making 50 million so paying the extra five give me 55 million 150 guaranteed at least we have a good quarterback that we’ve been missing since Marino. We have all the pieces in place right now to make a run into the playoffs. Maybe a Super Bowl but if we like don’t do it now we will have to start rebuilding again and that’s hard to do hard to get all the pieces in place at time at the same time.
@@johnyang3930 no bcuz he gives up draft picks and max money to players from other teams except for his own player he drafts....like Wilkins/ hunt / Landry etc ...he rather give max contracts to hill + draft picks chub+ draft picks......tua has been the best QB since Marino ...tua last ,3 yrs has been best QB last 20yrs....bro find another team bcuz they are singing tua
@@rsolorio692 Tua will never be the guy .. every big game and every big moment he chokes .. there’s no denying it.. been going on since his rookie year
Yeah but like Leroy said it's simple if they would have paid him already he would have been a lot cheaper man why are they waiting and waiting for it to get more expensive that was just very very dumb on Chris Greer's behalf he corporately screwed up this one now they got to pay him
When did it ever matter to pay an elite QB. You’re worried about the price as opposed to focusing on if Tua is delivering like a Top 5 QB to earn that type of contract. Not putting up stats but delivering in big moments and against big time competition. Nobody wants to pay a QB top 5 money and exit the playoffs in round one. Or them not play a full season. That’s what two has been the last two seasons
@@carlhenry3201so we not gonna talk about half our defense and our center missing the end of the season? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess not. Here’s a participation trophy bud! 🏆 yw!
@@808shortts yup our injured D and Center threw the INT against Buffalo on the last drive. Our injured D and Center is the reason we didn’t score on that last drive against KC and missed the throw to tie the game. Our injured D and Center was the reason our offense barely showed up against KC in the playoffs. I can keep going on and on. Stop it 🤣. Those are the moments I’m referring to. Even if we lose those games but Tua balls out nobody is blaming Tua. Why? Because more than likely we would be up or tied with the defense out on the field because Tua did his job. But when Tua is a part of why we are losing and with him being the QB it magnifies the issue. Fair or not that’s why he is looking to get paid the big bucks my guy. There’s some free game. You’re welcome lol 😂
@@carlhenry3201 so it’s Tua’s fault the chiefs marched down the field opening drive and scored in a few plays? It’s Tua’s fault Patrick Mahomes scrambled 30 yards on a 4th & 4 two drives later. It’s Tua’s fault Mostert & Hill dropped passes on a drive we could’ve taken a 14-13 lead before halftime? It’s Tua’s fault that the defense couldn’t make a tackle in freezing cold weather all game? Shall I keep going? See, what you did was easy. If we talking numbers, Tua deserves at the very least 55m a year. All you wanna do is nitpick talking bout he can’t win in the cold, can’t beat playoff teams, & y’all be the same people who were saying he couldn’t stay healthy & couldn’t throw the ball deep, Y’all change y’all narratives more than y’all change outfits. Just stop! Y’all just hate Tua & that’s fine. Just don’t cry when Tua puts to sleep every other new narrative y’all try to come up with. 🤙🏽
Tua’s the most accurate quarterback with the quickest release in the NFL. Do Miami know Tua’s the main reason for the NFL number 1 overall ranking offense in 2023.
What are his stats vs the good teams? Does he go past his second read? No? He is limited. Tua is nice... but doesn't mean deserves the money like burrow etc. Tua hasn't won anything
@@parrott113the EXACT same as the head coach and EVERY OTHER PLAYER ON THE TEAM. Learn to think for yourself or keep your opinions to yourself. How many passes did Waddle and Tyreek drop against those "good teams"? How many times did the defense let the game get out of hand against "good teams"? Only idiots only hold Tua to that. That same question can be asked of Burrow (along with his INJURY HISTORY) and Trevor Lawrence; but nobody does.
“If he gets better then you’ll have to pay him more” Soooooo. Then he would have earned it and we would be a legit SB contender. But the scenario ppl don’t want to talk about is if he doesn’t get better. By better I mean delivering in the moments and playoff success not just stat wise. Because Tua is good enough to put up stats with these weapons. But I’m sure Mia want to see Tua win big game, against big teams in big moments before they invest 200+ million on Tua
If I'm Tua I say nevermind the big contract but give me an offensive line. Or do give me a good contract but get me an offensive line. If i were him I'd make it a condition.
What kills me about Grier is he had no problem paying Tyreek and giving away draft picks, no problem paying chub and giving away draft picks, while his own pics, like Wilkins, hunt, and VanGinkel go unpaid and leave. They built this entire team around QB1. The deal must get done by training camp or this is going to be drama. That is not good for the team. The worst part about this is it’s a lot of money to Q1 but pennies for this franchise. Stop pinching pennies, dolphins and pay the man.
Paying Out Of House Players and Shittn on Your Draft Picks when it’s time to Get Paid. TUA IMPROVED every season. He’s answered every 🔔 they tried to throw at him. Media Is Getting in way.
Has Tua won any BIG games from Nov on? legit question...because if he wants to get paid like a Superstar.. you usually have to do Superstar things...plus he is 1 concussion away from possible retirement. I am a Jags fan and Trevor for damn sure has not earned what we just paid him...NFL and Teams PRINT $$ so it really doesn't matter...but If I was a GM or Owner..I would pay TOP Dollar if we had a Top 5 QB...after that I would look for a Gardner Minshew type dude/contract and spend the $$ trying to surround them with playmakers...Tua's concussion and injury history plus cold weather record would keep me from backing up truck for him...
And? Doesn't mean we should accept mediocrity. Why would the fins hurt themselves in the long run? After this season.. no more hill etc. Tua can't win and can't carry an offense
@@parrott113 that is stupid what have we had before tua not even high school play dam people r u that dumb gold in your hand and can’t see it if tua goes another 30 years of 💩
Earned what?! We've only had one full season. Why Miami fans love mediocrity so much! Tua needs to earn it this year! Beat some playoff teams when it counts! How about play only your 2nd full season ,Tua!
@@murphy7239 what’s the real significance of a playoff win if the ultimate goal is a Super Bowl. You enjoy getting participation trophies or something? Tua has been an mvp candidate the last two years under a coach who actually believes in him. He played his first full season without injury, led the league in passing yards , made the playoffs, & was voted to his first pro bowl. Tua owns Trevor in almost every qb stat and they just threw him 55m a year, but you don’t think Tua deserves it? I’m glad that decision isn’t up to you. 😅
@@murphy7239 typical fake dolphins fan, saying negative things just to say negative things. When faced with facts, turns from a loud mouth to as quiet as a mouse. 🤫 Tua gon get that bag baby!!! Lfg Tua!!! Keep your foot on their neck till they pay you!!!! No team friendly deals will be accepted!!! 💰💰💰💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🇼🇸🇼🇸🇼🇸🇼🇸 🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸
They should give Tua 40 million, then plug in 5 million for a winning season + 5 million for winning conference + 5 million per playoff (if they skip first game he’ll auto get 5 million) win. So technically he could earn more money than every other QB in the league.
Maybe Tua does not want to accept what Trevor Lawerance got, the numbers show that his contract in reality was not record setting and was far behind the big five qbs. Miami would be smart to not pay Tua till late October at the earliest. Actually cheaper to let him play out fifth year option and franchise tag him two years after that.
Dolphins front office and Mr.Ross are playing with fire by not paying Tua. You don’t allow that kind of Quarterback to hit the open market. How many accurate pro bowl Quarterback will you find if Tua demand a trade? Raiders and Saints would pay Tua 70 million a year no questions asked. Raiders are automatically guaranteed a playoff spot with Tua as their starting quarterback.
Tua's numbers last Season are much higher than most high paid QB's in the league - So just look else where Tua if they don't pay you what you really deserve what a joke!!
If Tua holds out, it lends to the fact he has issue with availabilty, missing games for injuries and hold outs! Yea, real humble team player there. Not! Make Tua earn it this season, don't pay until he does. We've only had one full season and he hasn't beaten a playoff caliber team.
Easy Fix. Make him play out his fifth year option. He has the best team in the NFL, and still not proven himself against good teams. I guarantee that if the dolphins give him this option, he would take whatever they offered. If anyone thinks that he would have the same stats on a different team is crazy. Yes, he might have a good year this year. But there is a better chance they don’t win a playoff game again and then thank god they didn’t pay him that much money
Dude, the team hasn’t proven themselves, including McDaniel against good teams. let them keep learning as a unit and as a coach. This is the best team we’ve had in years. Dumbass comment.
He would have better stats if Hill could catch the ball! Hill had drop issues all year and the 3 drops in the Bills game cost them the division. The receivers got zero separation in the KC game outside the 1 TD. Hill was not the best receiver on the field that night. KC's receivers got separation the whole game. All losses are not on the QB. Hill, just like Tua, had great stats but did not play well when it mattered. Tua should get paid because not any QB can run this system contrary to popular belief.
@@user-iz7ol3jx2o if the losses are not his fault, I understand. But that means the wins are not his fault as well since he has 2 of the best receivers in the league. He is an average QB with perhaps the best offensive roster of any team in many years. There is no reason they should have not been more successful last year. Grier sees it, people outside of Miami see it, and honestly most Miami fans agree.
@@GetawayGreg I think there offense struggled with physical teams who jammed there receivers at the line. As good as Hill and Waddle are they are going to have a hard time winning without a physical receiver. I believe Beckham will provide that along with the new TE. The Dolphins did not benefit from catching 50/ 50 balls and the good teams have those type of receivers or TEs .
Tua "The Truth" Tagovailoa The Man of God the Greatest Quarterback the World has ever seen. aint nobody mad but the devil and all his children cause Tua wears those two big black crosses on both his eyes every Sunday letting the entire world know that Jesus is God Almighty the Everlasting Farther
Those who don’t want to pay Tua and move on from him should understand two things; Dolphins are prudent not to pay Tua and if Tua is gone, Dolphins will be worse.
As if we're not used to the dolphins not being good. You act like that's not common. They would find someone worthy eventually.
@@leisurelife5331 i'm sure that was the attitude since 99'. people always think the grass is greener.
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You can’t move on from him until you move on from him. He is good, I hope great but unfortunately compared to the rest of the AFC QB’s, he’s not top tier. Tua fanatics SHOULD turn their anger to the team. I’m not saying he will not get signed, I’m saying that the time that has transpired between when he was eligible for a extension/new deal should have slowly started screaming at you about what they think. People, Teams and especially the government LIE TO YOU. If you haven’t grasped that, I feel bad for you. Actions are the only communication with truth in it nowadays. Maybe adjust?
@@z06fan3411 all QB are overpaid, all. they're nothing without WRs, TEs, RBs, and most importantly OLines.
We have been looking for a franchise quarterback for years, even if you don’t like Tua, he’s still a good quarterback, good quarterback are making 50 million so paying the extra five give me 55 million 150 guaranteed at least we have a good quarterback that we’ve been missing since Marino. We have all the pieces in place right now to make a run into the playoffs. Maybe a Super Bowl but if we like don’t do it now we will have to start rebuilding again and that’s hard to do hard to get all the pieces in place at time at the same time.
It's obvious they want "elite" and not just "good".
Nope! Make em earn it! How many full seasons has he played to earn 50 mill a yr. It's dumb decision to over pain players that gets Miami in trouble.
Tua is basic and average.
I am beyond livid with Chris Grier .
Why? Because he won’t pay a mediocre quarterback a ridiculous amount of money.. who doesn’t win big games
@@johnyang3930 no bcuz he gives up draft picks and max money to players from other teams except for his own player he drafts....like Wilkins/ hunt / Landry etc ...he rather give max contracts to hill + draft picks chub+ draft picks......tua has been the best QB since Marino ...tua last ,3 yrs has been best QB last 20yrs....bro find another team bcuz they are singing tua
@@rsolorio692
Tua will never be the guy .. every big game and every big moment he chokes .. there’s no denying it.. been going on since his rookie year
@@johnyang3930you get a trophy bud! 🏆 yw!
Yeah but like Leroy said it's simple if they would have paid him already he would have been a lot cheaper man why are they waiting and waiting for it to get more expensive that was just very very dumb on Chris Greer's behalf he corporately screwed up this one now they got to pay him
When did it ever matter to pay an elite QB. You’re worried about the price as opposed to focusing on if Tua is delivering like a Top 5 QB to earn that type of contract. Not putting up stats but delivering in big moments and against big time competition. Nobody wants to pay a QB top 5 money and exit the playoffs in round one. Or them not play a full season. That’s what two has been the last two seasons
@@carlhenry3201so we not gonna talk about half our defense and our center missing the end of the season? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess not. Here’s a participation trophy bud! 🏆 yw!
@@808shortts yup our injured D and Center threw the INT against Buffalo on the last drive. Our injured D and Center is the reason we didn’t score on that last drive against KC and missed the throw to tie the game. Our injured D and Center was the reason our offense barely showed up against KC in the playoffs. I can keep going on and on. Stop it 🤣. Those are the moments I’m referring to. Even if we lose those games but Tua balls out nobody is blaming Tua. Why? Because more than likely we would be up or tied with the defense out on the field because Tua did his job. But when Tua is a part of why we are losing and with him being the QB it magnifies the issue. Fair or not that’s why he is looking to get paid the big bucks my guy. There’s some free game. You’re welcome lol 😂
@@carlhenry3201 so it’s Tua’s fault the chiefs marched down the field opening drive and scored in a few plays? It’s Tua’s fault Patrick Mahomes scrambled 30 yards on a 4th & 4 two drives later. It’s Tua’s fault Mostert & Hill dropped passes on a drive we could’ve taken a 14-13 lead before halftime? It’s Tua’s fault that the defense couldn’t make a tackle in freezing cold weather all game? Shall I keep going? See, what you did was easy. If we talking numbers, Tua deserves at the very least 55m a year. All you wanna do is nitpick talking bout he can’t win in the cold, can’t beat playoff teams, & y’all be the same people who were saying he couldn’t stay healthy & couldn’t throw the ball deep, Y’all change y’all narratives more than y’all change outfits. Just stop! Y’all just hate Tua & that’s fine. Just don’t cry when Tua puts to sleep every other new narrative y’all try to come up with. 🤙🏽
Tua’s the most accurate quarterback with the quickest release in the NFL. Do Miami know Tua’s the main reason for the NFL number 1 overall ranking offense in 2023.
What are his stats vs the good teams? Does he go past his second read? No? He is limited. Tua is nice... but doesn't mean deserves the money like burrow etc. Tua hasn't won anything
Dude, most accurate loser, cant beat playoff teams 2nd half or season and is hardly available. Tua needs to earn it this yr!
@@parrott113I guess you like participation trophies huh! Here’s one buddy 🏆 yw!
@@murphy7239participation trophy for you too bud! 🏆 yw!
@@parrott113the EXACT same as the head coach and EVERY OTHER PLAYER ON THE TEAM. Learn to think for yourself or keep your opinions to yourself. How many passes did Waddle and Tyreek drop against those "good teams"? How many times did the defense let the game get out of hand against "good teams"? Only idiots only hold Tua to that. That same question can be asked of Burrow (along with his INJURY HISTORY) and Trevor Lawrence; but nobody does.
“If he gets better then you’ll have to pay him more” Soooooo. Then he would have earned it and we would be a legit SB contender. But the scenario ppl don’t want to talk about is if he doesn’t get better. By better I mean delivering in the moments and playoff success not just stat wise. Because Tua is good enough to put up stats with these weapons. But I’m sure Mia want to see Tua win big game, against big teams in big moments before they invest 200+ million on Tua
If I'm Tua I say nevermind the big contract but give me an offensive line. Or do give me a good contract but get me an offensive line. If i were him I'd make it a condition.
What kills me about Grier is he had no problem paying Tyreek and giving away draft picks, no problem paying chub and giving away draft picks, while his own pics, like Wilkins, hunt, and VanGinkel go unpaid and leave. They built this entire team around QB1. The deal must get done by training camp or this is going to be drama. That is not good for the team. The worst part about this is it’s a lot of money to Q1 but pennies for this franchise. Stop pinching pennies, dolphins and pay the man.
Paying Out Of House Players and Shittn on Your Draft Picks when it’s time to Get Paid. TUA IMPROVED every season. He’s answered every 🔔 they tried to throw at him. Media Is Getting in way.
Neither of you know what’s going on anyway so wait till it happens and stop
Neither of you know what’s going on anyway so wait till it happens and stop
That's because Treek is elite at his position, Tua is basic and average.
Has Tua won any BIG games from Nov on? legit question...because if he wants to get paid like a Superstar.. you usually have to do Superstar things...plus he is 1 concussion away from possible retirement. I am a Jags fan and Trevor for damn sure has not earned what we just paid him...NFL and Teams PRINT $$ so it really doesn't matter...but If I was a GM or Owner..I would pay TOP Dollar if we had a Top 5 QB...after that I would look for a Gardner Minshew type dude/contract and spend the $$ trying to surround them with playmakers...Tua's concussion and injury history plus cold weather record would keep me from backing up truck for him...
Everyone wants to talk about the market is the market, but the contract rules are the contract rules as well.
I have been a lifelong fan of the Dolphins and i will tell you right now i am pissed with the team for not signing Tua PAY THE MAN DON’T FUCK THIS UP
I just don’t understand I know quarterbacking understanding the game unlike some of this CZcamsrs tua is best gb dolphins have had since Dan
And? Doesn't mean we should accept mediocrity. Why would the fins hurt themselves in the long run? After this season.. no more hill etc. Tua can't win and can't carry an offense
@@parrott113 that is stupid what have we had before tua not even high school play dam people r u that dumb gold in your hand and can’t see it if tua goes another 30 years of 💩
Pay the man!! He’s earned it! Give Tua the bag already!!! 💰💰💰
Earned what?! We've only had one full season. Why Miami fans love mediocrity so much!
Tua needs to earn it this year! Beat some playoff teams when it counts! How about play only your 2nd full season ,Tua!
@@murphy7239 what’s the real significance of a playoff win if the ultimate goal is a Super Bowl. You enjoy getting participation trophies or something? Tua has been an mvp candidate the last two years under a coach who actually believes in him. He played his first full season without injury, led the league in passing yards , made the playoffs, & was voted to his first pro bowl. Tua owns Trevor in almost every qb stat and they just threw him 55m a year, but you don’t think Tua deserves it? I’m glad that decision isn’t up to you. 😅
@@murphy7239 🏆 I’m gonna leave this participation trophy here for ya bud! Congratulations! 🤝
@@murphy7239 typical fake dolphins fan, saying negative things just to say negative things. When faced with facts, turns from a loud mouth to as quiet as a mouse. 🤫 Tua gon get that bag baby!!! Lfg Tua!!! Keep your foot on their neck till they pay you!!!! No team friendly deals will be accepted!!! 💰💰💰💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🇼🇸🇼🇸🇼🇸🇼🇸 🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸
@@murphy7239from loud mouth to quite mouse. 😢typical!
I've been watching Leroy Hoard highlights; buddy doesn't get his credit. Leroy was good. 😊
And if he goes out and gets injured again then what ?? We don’t like to have that conversation huh 🤔
They should give Tua 40 million, then plug in 5 million for a winning season + 5 million for winning conference + 5 million per playoff (if they skip first game he’ll auto get 5 million) win. So technically he could earn more money than every other QB in the league.
Why? Tua needs a Daniel Jones contract
As a Bills fan I stand with Tua !
Pay the man his money = $60 million
Maybe Tua does not want to accept what Trevor Lawerance got, the numbers show that his contract in reality was not record setting and was far behind the big five qbs.
Miami would be smart to not pay Tua till late October at the earliest. Actually cheaper to let him play out fifth year option and franchise tag him two years after that.
Dolphins front office and Mr.Ross are playing with fire by not paying Tua. You don’t allow that kind of Quarterback to hit the open market. How many accurate pro bowl Quarterback will you find if Tua demand a trade? Raiders and Saints would pay Tua 70 million a year no questions asked. Raiders are automatically guaranteed a playoff spot with Tua as their starting quarterback.
Nah! Make Tua earn it!
Tua's numbers last Season are much higher than most high paid QB's in the league - So just look else where Tua if they don't pay you what you really deserve what a joke!!
Leroy!!!! TUA IS NOT THAT GOOD BRO WHAT IS THAT YOU DONT GET! DOESNT MATTER IF YOU PLAYED lOOK AT TUA AGAINST ELITE COMP
F u Luis, give the kid 2.5 seconds and see the damage he will do
@@Luis12215 I’ll take a former nfl players word over a broke bums word any day. 🤷♂️
@@808shortts Leroy's a fan of Tua....and he's wrong! Tua is average.
If Tua holds out, it lends to the fact he has issue with availabilty, missing games for injuries and hold outs! Yea, real humble team player there. Not! Make Tua earn it this season, don't pay until he does. We've only had one full season and he hasn't beaten a playoff caliber team.
You also lose money for every game and practice he doesn’t show up
Easy Fix. Make him play out his fifth year option. He has the best team in the NFL, and still not proven himself against good teams. I guarantee that if the dolphins give him this option, he would take whatever they offered. If anyone thinks that he would have the same stats on a different team is crazy. Yes, he might have a good year this year. But there is a better chance they don’t win a playoff game again and then thank god they didn’t pay him that much money
Dude, the team hasn’t proven themselves, including McDaniel against good teams. let them keep learning as a unit and as a coach. This is the best team we’ve had in years. Dumbass comment.
Still do not have an OL
He would have better stats if Hill could catch the ball! Hill had drop issues all year and the 3 drops in the Bills game cost them the division. The receivers got zero separation in the KC game outside the 1 TD. Hill was not the best receiver on the field that night. KC's receivers got separation the whole game. All losses are not on the QB. Hill, just like Tua, had great stats but did not play well when it mattered. Tua should get paid because not any QB can run this system contrary to popular belief.
@@user-iz7ol3jx2o if the losses are not his fault, I understand. But that means the wins are not his fault as well since he has 2 of the best receivers in the league. He is an average QB with perhaps the best offensive roster of any team in many years. There is no reason they should have not been more successful last year. Grier sees it, people outside of Miami see it, and honestly most Miami fans agree.
@@GetawayGreg I think there offense struggled with physical teams who jammed there receivers at the line. As good as Hill and Waddle are they are going to have a hard time winning without a physical receiver. I believe Beckham will provide that along with the new TE. The Dolphins did not benefit from catching 50/ 50 balls and the good teams have those type of receivers or TEs .
Tua "The Truth" Tagovailoa The Man of God the Greatest Quarterback the World has ever seen. aint nobody mad but the devil and all his children cause Tua wears those two big black crosses on both his eyes every Sunday letting the entire world know that Jesus is God Almighty the Everlasting Farther
Don't pay.
Franchise tag next year
Tua doesn't want to play without a contract
@@corybundukamara8069 here’s a trophy for your fugazi dreads. 🏆🤣🤣🤣🤦🏽♂️
OL win games
Grier's OL is responsible for two of Tua's injuries
next year it will be 70 mil