Data Frog SF2000 original SNES controls modification

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  • čas přidán 9. 06. 2023
  • The Data Frog SF2000 is compatible with original Super Nintendo parts! #datafrog #retrogaming
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  • @Shenglongification
    @Shenglongification Před rokem +5

    Cool vid! I just picked up a SF2000 purely to display on a shelf. I love how it looks, so similar to a SNES controller. Good to know you could improve it even more! I'll wait with modding till it gets some better firmware though (so it can actually play the SNES games)..

    • @RealziesCuts
      @RealziesCuts Před rokem +2

      Actually, if you load a game all you have to do is quit out and then load it again and you’ll see it run a lot better ✊💫🏆

  • @JewTubeDon
    @JewTubeDon Před 10 měsíci +4

    Thank you for the tutorial!
    I have a speaker mod reference for any one who is interested:
    The next board revision has horizontal red wire left black wire right solder points for the speaker.
    The SF2000 speaker is a 28mm Game Boy DMG type, 0.5W 16 ohms. A low profile 1W 8 ohm 23mm aftermarket black spiral groove type GBC/GBA speaker works fine with the device after extensive testing. A 28mm speaker of the same type might fit in the speaker slot. Also, a Funnyplaying Game Boy DMG speaker is the same size but lower profile and is a tight fit after filing off the outer positioning tab.

    • @amw4736
      @amw4736 Před 7 měsíci

      can you add a link to your video? did you add a second speaker? can you? I'd like to do this. Thanks

    • @JewTubeDon
      @JewTubeDon Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​​​​​@@amw4736 I didn't make a video sorry. I added a second one in series. Two 8 ohm in series makes the impedance 16 ohms like the original speaker. The space for the empty speaker can be be cut away with a red hot knife and the holes can be done with a red hot paper clip. You can use duct tape to hold down the speaker. If the wires interfere with the shell so it's closing tight, the D-pad response will be affected.

  • @kevinspahr6632
    @kevinspahr6632 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great video! You know at the beginning you said the sf2000 front end music was annoying. Well that music you had playing during your control modification was very annoying also. I had to mute the sound...lol.😁

    • @forthenext
      @forthenext  Před 10 měsíci

      Sorry about that, I didn’t record any sound when I was doing it so thought I should add some of CZcams’s own music.

  • @Lumibear.
    @Lumibear. Před 4 měsíci +2

    Thanks, I did this mod today, asides from looking nice it feels so much better! Whilst I was in there I soldered a better wire onto the speaker, stuck some black card to the back and edges of the screen, used glue dots to stop the shoulder buttons clacking so much and a tiny bit of purple acetate over the ON light so that it stops *_burning my retinas._*
    I couldn’t do anything useful with the SNES D-Pad rubber buttons, but I did find that adding a line of rubber tape to the outside edge of where the ‘fake speaker holder’ pushes onto the back of stuff made the left & up on the original D-Pad a tad more responsive by supporting the board a bit better in that area.
    It just stops it bending backwards so easily there is all, so all the directions feel the same under the thumb. Oh and it maybe improves diagonals a lil bit, but I’m not sure.
    Someday I want to try to add either an earphone jack or a Bluetooth board, I’ve seen videos, it looks doable, and just out of personal curiosity I may attempt a ’subwoofer’ mod!
    If it works, I’ll make a video, if not, well, I was obviously just kidding! ;)

    • @Lumibear.
      @Lumibear. Před 4 měsíci

      The sound mod worked! I made a video, it’s not on on this channel it’s on a spare I have, so anyone interested can look for : ‘ Adding Haptic Bass To An SF2000 ‘ , the description has a link to the mini resonance speaker I used.
      There’s not much by way of actual instructions because it’s pretty obvious really, although after some experimentation I found sticking it on with a glue dot helped reduce speaker rattle when the bass gets a bit too full-on (I think maybe the surrounding case of the speaker was too close to the case of the game’s, seeing as it curves around) but these things are often individual taste and adjustment.
      Anyhoo, now my SF2000 gives sensory feedback to shots, explosions and drums!

    • @reynangan8746
      @reynangan8746 Před měsícem +1

      hey you feel it too? red led ON makes irritating to eye and i get nauseous as well

    • @Lumibear.
      @Lumibear. Před měsícem

      @@reynangan8746 it just bothered the heck out of me yeh, especially at night, happily it is way less irritating now.

    • @reynangan8746
      @reynangan8746 Před měsícem

      @@Lumibear. totally agree i think if i have time i get rid the led lights its useless though i agree that is an eyesore you can't also focus on the screen cause on the other side has some strong annoying red led

    • @Lumibear.
      @Lumibear. Před měsícem +1

      @@reynangan8746 well it has one use, if you get no screen at least you know you have power, but it’s such a dumb place for it.
      I’ve just dimmed it so well that if I’m playing indoors in daylight I need to put a hand over to cast a shadow in order to see it. I’m ok with that.

  • @LogosGaming
    @LogosGaming Před 11 měsíci +2

    One of the few thing id like in thos console is the dpad. But price for performance it is unbeatble. And does multiplayer and you can connect TV

  • @RealziesCuts
    @RealziesCuts Před rokem

    This is one of my favorite videos on CZcams now thank you for doing this, today It will be my turn. ✊

  • @GaetanLavigne443
    @GaetanLavigne443 Před rokem

    thank you.. i have modded mine and it's great

  • @LogosGaming
    @LogosGaming Před 10 měsíci +1

    I tried with snes membrane and super famicom neither of them work properly the d pad does not read all inputs

  • @mendellalvarado4285
    @mendellalvarado4285 Před rokem +4

    Nice! All I did to mine was do a software update and upgrade the battery to a bigger sized one.

    • @kasanovasloan
      @kasanovasloan Před rokem

      Hey what battery did you use and how many hours of play now

    • @danhle1032
      @danhle1032 Před rokem +1

      Does it make SNES games run ok

    • @impuls60
      @impuls60 Před rokem +2

      @@kasanovasloan It uses li ion 18650

    • @TygonBC
      @TygonBC Před rokem +2

      @@kasanovasloan I found a 3400mAh replacement battery online, as noted below it's a 18650 battery. I think you need one with a button contact though may work without. In the UK at least they are kinda hard to find without being bundled with a charger and often more batteries, but I avoided Amazon and eBay and found more dedicated battery suppliers. It wasn't too expensive and lasts perhaps twice as long on a charge as the battery it ships with.

    • @JewTubeDon
      @JewTubeDon Před 7 měsíci

      18650 protected battery from Ecolux UK is legit

  • @steveothehulk
    @steveothehulk Před měsícem

    Can you piggy back another speaker off the connectors to have 2 speakers?

  • @litemint09
    @litemint09 Před 9 měsíci

    Hey FTN, is there a way to mod the processor or chip inside it so that i has more power processor to do the emulation? great mod by the way.

    • @forthenext
      @forthenext  Před 9 měsíci +2

      I don’t think so, short of replacing the entire guts. There is a custom firmware in development but I think they hit some roadblocks because of the low spec.

  • @amw4736
    @amw4736 Před 7 měsíci

    can you add a link or something to know what type of originals snes controller you need for this? There seems to be many different iterations online...Thanks

  • @kevinspahr6632
    @kevinspahr6632 Před 10 měsíci

    I could be wrong, but it seems like after your modification your display got very dim????

  • @guillermoenrique5489
    @guillermoenrique5489 Před rokem

    I intend to try later to change the dpad of the device, to exchange for an original control of snes or an 8BitDo.

  • @12128506
    @12128506 Před rokem +1

    Just ordered the device. Where did you get original SNES pads and buttons from? Thank you!

    • @forthenext
      @forthenext  Před rokem +2

      I got them from Aliexpress, you can search for SNES buttons and there are many sellers.

    • @marktaylor4370
      @marktaylor4370 Před rokem +1

      @@forthenext did you get the membrane from Ali Express as well? Thanks.

    • @JewTubeDon
      @JewTubeDon Před 7 měsíci

      eBay Famicom controller is the cheapest for membranes and buttons

  • @hadoualex
    @hadoualex Před rokem +1

    Awesome, I will try the mod as well. Do you feel that it improved it up to snes controller standards? In other words is it worth it

    • @forthenext
      @forthenext  Před rokem

      The buttons are way better but the D-Pad was only a slight improvement for me. I even had some difficulty with the D-Pad being too tight and being worse than the stock setup.

    • @svenwald9199
      @svenwald9199 Před rokem

      @@forthenextcan you play beat em ups like street fighter very good with the new d pad or is it worse than original? Still deciding if I should get the device or not

    • @ytdrachengame1157
      @ytdrachengame1157 Před rokem

      @@forthenext Is it slightly better or worse now??

    • @JewTubeDon
      @JewTubeDon Před 7 měsíci

      With the mushy style original European SNES controller membrane it's very good

  • @danielmoses7688
    @danielmoses7688 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I looked through the comments, but can you use the actual SNES D-Pad or is it too big to fit the SF 2000?
    I've already bought a Super Famicom controller and I plan on buying a battery and a charger.

  • @TygonBC
    @TygonBC Před rokem +2

    Great video. Do the buttons and D pad feel softer and less clicky as a result? I like the SF2000 but the D pad especially is a bit clunky, not as easy to find diagionals as it should be, and the little thumb stick is the opposite, a little sloppy. Shame nothing can be done about the shoulder buttons but those seem to be just microswitches fixed/soldered to the board. Your mod also resolves the issue with the convex and concave buttons being in the wrong positions 🙂 I've already upgraded the battery, need to look at the firmware update to fix some of those key mapping issues (maybe set some others manually) but will have a crack at this mod also!

    • @JewTubeDon
      @JewTubeDon Před 7 měsíci +1

      The mod in the video is worth it but the D-pad sits lower than an original SNES controller so the diagonals are worse than SNES for fighting moves but a lot better than the original Datafrog

    • @cycleoffire2220
      @cycleoffire2220 Před 7 měsíci

      @@JewTubeDon how it compares to the budget anbernic devices after mod? If it on the same level, then I'll jump on the datafrog train :)

  • @TasteTheD
    @TasteTheD Před 11 měsíci +1

    I want to mod the L+R buttons as they are so clicky!

  • @amw4736
    @amw4736 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I wish someone would do a complete video on how to update this console to make it perform better. How to overclock the cpu from 800Mhz to 900Mhz and update the firmware and games. It looks like you could add a 2nd speaker too? that would be a great mod. I appreciate the info. on changing out the buttons. Any help is greatly appreciated. I would like the best performance possible before I start modding the actual console.

    • @JewTubeDon
      @JewTubeDon Před 7 měsíci

      Check my post for second speaker, it's on a reply

    • @JewTubeDon
      @JewTubeDon Před 7 měsíci +1

      vonmillhausen sf2000 Github Information regarding the SF2000 handheld console...
      Has all the info and links to do updates and the CFW mod.
      One of the Datafrog updates has the overclock included

  • @barneygumble7300
    @barneygumble7300 Před rokem

    Good Work - will try it on Mine. Got Buttons from broken SNES Controller - so Good New Job for Them
    Is it needed to Change the Rubber Membrane too? Or can i use the ones there inside? Means only Exchange the Buttons ?
    Thank you

    • @forthenext
      @forthenext  Před rokem +2

      Not needed to change the rubber membrane if you don’t want to. Can use the ones already inside.
      A note, some SNES controller buttons have three “legs” on each button rather than two - don’t be alarmed about it.

    • @barneygumble7300
      @barneygumble7300 Před rokem

      @@forthenext Thank you - i will do the Change in the evening - have a Good Time 👍😎

  • @reynangan8746
    @reynangan8746 Před měsícem

    your controller is like a skittles

  • @mariusz.bednarczyk
    @mariusz.bednarczyk Před 5 měsíci

    This version of Super Mario Bros is build in or custom rom?

    • @forthenext
      @forthenext  Před 5 měsíci +1

      The game came with the device.

  • @peppyelvis
    @peppyelvis Před rokem

    I saw you video and i cant figure out how you got the joystick out

    • @forthenext
      @forthenext  Před rokem

      Needs a gentle wiggle. Don’t pull too hard as force is not needed.

  • @fatusainbolt
    @fatusainbolt Před rokem

    where can i buy the dpad and keys from snes?

  • @AkiraWisnu
    @AkiraWisnu Před rokem

    kinda curious if it is possible to replace the top L and R button with something less hard click

    • @forthenext
      @forthenext  Před rokem +1

      They look kind of like mouse switches so it might be possible. It would be an advanced modification.

  • @Doggy_Mation
    @Doggy_Mation Před rokem

    Does the games still work?

  • @shazpvd2667
    @shazpvd2667 Před 6 měsíci

    How to change game without turning off?

    • @vaxper
      @vaxper Před 6 měsíci +2

      Press start and select

  • @mawmovie7759
    @mawmovie7759 Před rokem

    Can we add cheat to this device..?

  • @derekp9737
    @derekp9737 Před rokem +1

    and I expected a chipset or memory moddification, not button color changes...kind of a waste of time on that one...

    • @Tonydm81
      @Tonydm81 Před 10 měsíci +3

      It says in the title what is modded, you wasted your own time mate