Will It Run? 1950 Chevy pickup pulled from the forest | Redline Update LIVE
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- We just pulled a 1950 Chevrolet 3600 pickup truck out of the woods in Northern Michigan. It’s been slowly sinking into the ground for the past few decades and we thought we’d try and get it back on the road. She’s gonna need a lot of work, but we figured we try and get the old Stovebold 6 engine to turn over and fire before we really dive into the project. Will it start?
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Got a 51 been sitting for 40yrs. All original ,including split rims. Guy said it ran before parked. So far, engine not siezed, good compression, established spark, rebuilt carb. Next replacing plugs and adding fuel to carb. Wish me luck.
Good luck! I got a 48 GMC rotted cab but restored engine and chassis. I want to get the motor spinning and maybe fired up too.
Don’t crush’em restore them. 👍🏼. Thanks for saving these beauties.
Davin is my hero, dangit.
He does it just the way I was taught many, many moons ago - and I'm a darn sight older than him.
Always a pleasure to watvh him do his thing. :-)
Just a little tip on point systems. Connect the test light to ignition wire (jumper wire) and points wire. Turn engine over. Flashing ok. No flashing bad points/codencer or grounded.
2 main types of coils. Internal and external resisted. A 12v external would work. Internal would have dropped voltage to around 3v with a 6v battery. Electric ignition has spoiled us all. When in a rush, we forget the little things.
Converting to 12vdc just needs a voltage regulator. Also need to change lights and a few other things.
Exactly
Things happen, some require time, others just a try, but amazing live, as mechanics we know it's everyday learning, and overcoming whatever happens on the way
Great job, keep it going on the shop 👍
It was very cool watching your video , it brang back alot of good memories for me , as I had a 1948 Chevy Suburban (A.K.A. Chevy Carryall) it was the coolest vehicle I had ever owned back when I was a Hippie , and it was named "Purple Haze" because of its color !!! It was originally a school bus in the 50's and 60's in Butler County , Pennsylvania !!! 😉👍🙂
These are my favorite period of Chevrolet trucks. My brother has a 1954.
on those old engines, i always run a clean cloth between contacts on the points because i have had a tiny piece of the grit on the sandpaper to keep the points from making contact. i then pull the distributor coil wire and break the contacts with a screwdriver to see if i have fire. I am 70 years old and really love seeing these old vehicles run again. loved the video!!!!
I have a 50 just like this the engine ran with a cracked block even. Changed it out for a 58 235. Excited to see your work. 12 volt is way to go easy change out bulbs a resister or two and cool. Off you go. Can't wait
69 years old. Michigan. Buried knee deep. God Bless Chevrolet.
My Dad was a Tech Sargent in WWII. His assignment was teaching auto mechanics to Italian POWs. The engine that repeatedly got torn down and put together was the Stovebolt Six. The "Stovebolts" come from the slotted bolts holding the valve cover, lifter cover and timing cover on similar to Stovebolts of the the day.
What a time capsule...so cool....
The FORD WAS FALLING APART WHEN TOWED OUT, TO GET TO THE CHEVY WHICH TURNS OVER AND HAS BEEN UNTOUCHED......JUST FREAKING AMAZING...I LOVE THE FACT YOU GUYS SEE THE REAL BEAUTY IN ALL THE WICKED COOL VEHICLES...IT BLOWS MY MIND HOW GOOD SOME OF THESE CARS/TRUCKS ARE
Being an owner of a 216 stovebolt chevy 1/2 ton made in 1953 , restaurating it right now , l do learn a lot from you , great show indeed!
I've really been enjoying this new series from Haggerty.
I've been watching the Barn Finds series for a year or more, and those are always fun to see.
But it's really cool to see what happens to these old classics after they've been discovered.
Since I was a kid, I've had a desire to restore and rebuild classic cars and trucks.
I've never been able to realize that dream yet, but I invest a lot of time into watching content like this, to prepare myself for my first restoration project.
There's a wealth of learning to be had in this type of programming, and it's fun to watch, as well.
Looking forward to many more classic restoration projects from Haggerty!
My favorite thing is watching people from all over the planet checking in on the chat. Neat to see people from other cultures interested in an old pick up truck.
Yeah...Brainiac....LOL
I’m from Egypt by the way
Greetings from Germany 😄👍🏻
Amen Sista! Because at one time B4 and After WW2 The USA used to ship this old American iron all over The Globe!! That's why they like it. Along with our Harley-Davidson Motorcycles!
from Iraq 😄😄😄
Greetings from Liverpool UK.🤙🏻
THIS is the type of stuff I love. These old cars are so amazingly beautiful. New cars now seem to all copy each other and have no character back then you KNEW a chevy truck or ford truck from just looking at them. TOday, your plain vanilla hyundais, toyotas, kias all look too alike. Hope this truck either gets up and running the way it is or maybe get a full resto but sometimes they sit in a garage without being driven. excellent video.
I restored a 1950 Chevrolet 3600 grain truck, sadly I can't post pictures here but it was a fun project to say the least. I found the original hand crank under the seat. When it came to needing parts, Chevs of the 40s out of Van Couver Washington helped out a lot. I also did a 1946 1 1/2 ton long wheelbase panal truck.
I remember getting my mom's fingernail file to clean the points on my 63 Chevy Truck. She wasn't to happy when she went to look for it. Lol
I love the history of all these older vehicles.I also think the guy does a great job of even finding these old vehicles amazingly fantastic.
Im pretty sure that truck camera off of the property that was on an episode of barn find hunter. The guy passed away and his daughter was selling most of the vehicles and the really bad ones were going to get scraped.
I loved this! Hearing it start up would have been great, but it doesn’t spoil the experience when things don’t go as hoped. I’ve got my own vehicles that I want to get started just for that motivation and the smiles it would cause, but there’s still lots of fun in the trials and the wrenching. Fantastic series! I love the sharing of knowledge and have become aware of things to consider in engine rebuilds that I have no idea of before. Hopefully you’re all doing what you love!
Just a couple of tips on troubleshooting an ignition system. The most likely failure component in a battery ignition system assuming your points are making contact is the condenser sometimes called the capacitor. Also if when you are wanting to know if a spark is being generated, pull the wire out of the center of the distributor and hold it near a ground. It should spark as each piston comes up on compression rather than only once every 4 revolutions.
Gary 76-Year-Old Home-Shop-Machinist, A&P Aircraft Mechanic and retired aircraft inspector
Sounds like the points are either stuck open or closed. The condensor helps prevent the points from being pitted. Gary has good advice.
Granted I shot through the video so I could have missed it, I only saw him clean the points. I test the points with a test light or continuity tester. I bet the points are just stuck or to corroded. Like you said, from there the condenser.
im a little late to the video, but excellent points. I would even just pull the distributor cap and see if its spinning.
Yep i'd have looked for a new condenser as well. Also i didn't skip over many points in the video but i did jump a little during the points cleaning. Did they roll the engine over with the cap off to make sure the distributor was even rotating?
This brings back lots of old memories and all advice given is very good... They definitely have an electrical problem, but I think just for grins I would do a compression check to see what they have.. The motor might be in great shape internally and might not even require a rebuild...
Gary Jones #2... Not the same Gary Jones that made the initial comment.. There's lots of us Gary Jones's around...
Back in my college years about'76, I had a '52 5 window 1/2 T Chevy that I wish I had the foresight and resources to hold on to.
That said, I'm looking forward to this series!
The stovebolt six was a tough and reliable motor....
You'll get it going ...
Keep up the good work...
Bug shout out from the Uk
Had one just like it. Pulled it from a field. Mine was a 48 thrift master. Green. And all I had to do basically was changed braided ground wire and it started right up. Had to replace all the brake cylinders in the master cylinder and all the brake lines. Was a fun project loved that truck wish I still had it. Yeah Lotta fun fix it up. Cart wheels I did a lot of them today teaching my gymnastics class. Good luck with the truck.
Great grille! In 2003 I bought a 50 3600 very similar to this. Motor was stuck and everything else deteriorated from 27? years of exposure. I got it unstuck by patient application of penetrating oil in the cylinders. It was eventually a good running and driving truck. They no longer used the Thriftmaster names by 1950. Published HP about 90. The 261 6 came out in 1954.
Sweet pickup glad somebody's cherrying it out will be beautiful when finished! ! I love old 50s Chevy's had a few
Loved this video. Awesome. Felt like I was hanging out in your garage. I'm at capacitor on that spark. There was a reason it was parked. I'm going with capacitor. Your logic is correct. In my mind that capacitor is your next step. Thanks for your time. All the best to you.
I'm amazed they still put in the hand crank provision after so many years. I just saw 1 of those a few days ago at the grocery store, it was yellow and done up with a beautiful wood bed ,my favorite SS Cragar rims and a few other newer goodies. You could see she was still a work in progress because some of the dash gauges were in a state of being refurbished,but overall, she looked lovely! So great to see our automotive history still roaming the streets over half a century later! I seriously doubt you'll see any of todays cars still around in a half century from now roaming the pavement. But thanks to talented fellows like Davin and others of our ilk,they remain alive and well, or atleast on their way to being as well as can be for their condition. That starters wires are arcing out a bit when you tried it, those meece and critters love that old insulation for some strange reason on those wires. Please pass this valuable wrenching knowledge along to any of our youngsters who are willing to learn out there,our young uns hold this arts future in their hopefully eager hands. Some of her pieces parts look pretty good after all of that time waiting for her next date and night out on the town. Good luck and thanks again guys! ▪☆☆☆▪
Looks like this is going to be an awesome build and I hope to learn a lot from it. Thank You for sharing!
Look under the seat, the crank handle is probably there.
And that is an engine with poured bearings and splash and dip oiling.
Smile on my face during the wrenching ON this classic GM ! ! I'd love to have the time to do that ! I'd be happy all the time.
My dream truck is this model of Chevrolet, like the cab design as it looks very rugged. However, I would swap the "wellsider" type body and fit a wood and metal flat bed that went over the rear wheels, and sides to hold freight securely.
I am still patiently waiting for a straight 8 engine in this series (selfishly) but an inline six is still way cool. Kudos for documenting the efforts that go into getting old american iron running again too. Its more challenging than most folks realize. Thanks for the new installments!
That was a very popular truck color during that time.Dark Green. Good luck in your rebuild!
Would love one of these. A quick Google reveals "The 216 engine is a six cylinder with an output power of 90 horsepower at 3,300 rpm and 174 ft-lb of torque at 1,200 rpm. The compression ratio is 6.50:1 and the piston displacement is 216.5 cubic inches."
It makes maximum torque at barely above idle speed. That engine was designed to chug along. It'll haul whatever you have as long as you're not in a hurry!
I have a 51 3/4 and it's a lot easier if you pull the radiator. I've owned mine for 50 plus years now. Proud owner
Being a 50 I think it would have a 235. If the lifter cover stops at the base of the cylinder head it’s a 235, If the lifter cover comes up to the base of the valve cover it’s a 216. If it’s the original engine it should also be a splash Oiler. Can’t wait for the updates on this one!
It's definitely a 216. In 1950, they usually only used the early 235, which was also a Babbitt engine,in the 1&1/2 ton and larger trucks. The later 235 wasn't put in trucks until 1954 and was used up until 1962 when it was discontinued.
One of my dream trucks. Someday I’ll get one. I’ve looked at some that had been rebuilt with a different engine and front end I want all original with the three on a tree
When you rebuild the cars it's cool but the trucks I wish i could have em all like old guns just wonderful ..keep up the great wotk
I think I would have welded up a rod or tube with a t-bar style end to turn the engine over. Great content. I thought Davin was looking younger then realised it's 3 years old!
I'd say check condenser, check that gap is open and closing appropriately on the points and make sure those wires to the plugs aren't corroded, replace them. Good video to teach the thought process.
I was waiting to hear it running! Well I have to wait until you rebuild it! Grandpa had a 1954 Chevy pannel, I remember the crank button in the floor! It was inline 6 cylinders and the air filter was full of oil.
I just found and bought a 1949 Chevy 3100 that has been in storage for the last 30 years. True barn find! Was a 1 owner truck. Just got it running.
We should have gotten your video of it running instead of this. LOL
@@Mordrayso lol too true
Did these old 6 volt systems have a positive ground?
@@BkGreg No, they were neg ground.
Just bought one in pretty rough condition from a junk yard, I’ve restored tractors and a few implements, but never a car or truck. It’s complete but it’s got quite a bit of rust. Hoping to get it at least driving and useable before my wedding in October.
You can turn the engine over by raising one rear wheel and turning that while the gear is in 2nd.
My experience with the same year and model. I removed the 216 and rebuilt a 235 and powered it with that. Purchase price $350.00. Sold $2100. Enjoy the last year without wings window in this series of Chevy trucks.
Hagerty In the 1970's I got one of the same Chevy model 1950 & club cab windows gave them $10. took to my friends barn did the same thing as you But it started! Then I drove it and it smoked like crazy but I got a friend to overhaul it .Drove it for ten years and wish I would have kept it. This 216 has babit bearing incerts once you do the Crank shaft you Have to reshime. each bearing cap. Never Smoked again ran great Drove it to work did great for me. On the oldest Pa winter Day it would turn slow and start right up. Please post after your after you got it going Posts.
Amazing how good the trim still looks after decades ! Guess then a lot were stainless steel instead of chrome ! Top grill bar on my 46 coupes pot metal cuz WWll
Great video, love your idea of taking it from a field and seeing if you could get to start, looking forward to the next instalment!
I owned a truck like this once about the only thing I liked about it was the push button starter rode like a lumber wagon with that straight axle front end
I sincerely hope you actually rebuild and restore this truck. It appears to be in such good original condition. So very many have cut-up, modified and sent on their way to the scrapper. The 216 has Babbitt bearings although some have rod insert conversions. They also have a low pressure (15lbs.) oil pump. There are now some full pressure conversions that work well. Patrick's Auto Parts in Casa Grande AZ. is but one.The dealer shops had a fixture for aiming the nozzles that lubricate the rod bearings. As you guys are not dummies I'm sure you are aware of the extreme low rear axle ratio (4.56 down to 5.13) this truck has. I'll be watching... Hope you do her up right.
Patrick's has been closed for at least a year.
Fun to watch but painful. Keep them coming.
Thanks for watching!
This truck is a really nice project! The grill and the front clip are in really decent shape and the body is fairly straight from what I can see in your live video. Two thumbs up! :)
You're going to like this truck - l think it wants a breather cap on the valve cover...glad to see the tri power Oldsmobile came home with it too
I have a 1960 Plymouth that turned as well after 50 years on my uncles ranch
Mike Tyler j
John you Didn't Bore me, The Problem,I am not There to Give You A Hand, just Love These Old Machines,,,And You Know,,,They Never Die, Regards Matt.
love the videos like this that show all the nitty gritty, cutting out all those little things makes for the typical look what we did in 5 minutes video!! going to be a sad day when the REDLINE series and the BARN FIND HUNTER series leaves youtube just like the ROADKILL series did when they got popular on youtube !! thanks for the good video
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Beautiful truck deserves a full factory restoration
Got a 1950 Chevrolet 3100 Stove Bolt sitting in my drive way. Got to run up until pressure was built in radiator then stream of hot water was shooting straight out to the firewall. Well the engine runs
great but the radiator is bad and so are the brakes. It is a 4 speed model like yours on the floor. Except not a 5 window model but a step side bed 3 window model. Looking forward to this build you have of the 3/4 ton first generation series of work trucks.
I've done this so many times...you could have used the fan blade with the belt on it to roll that motor. Check for spark at the points using a screwdriver and hit the starter if the points have spark. It's a straight six Chevy. It will run without all the fuss and worry.
I thought this was a Mustie1 vid when I first saw it. He woulda got it fired up lol. cheers.
Can't wait to see it run. I am new to this channel, going to be watching more.
I’m surprised the engine is free at all the body does not look that bad ! Looks like it would be an awesome project!
Brought back memories of my 50 GMC 3100 with 56 chevy 235 also barn find
It was called a stove bolt because the early ones had slotted head screws holding the side cover on the engine. Like the same kinds of bolts/screws on stoves.
I enjoyed the video. As a restorer you have to try stuff out and be patient. Well done gentlemen
I love those old Chevy trucks my dad had a 1956 panel truck that me and my 6 brother loved riding in.
Great project. Thank you for sharing.
The flywheel can be turned with a large prybar from underneath.
I had a 1948 thrift master. One ton flat bed. I miss that truck. In order to start it after it was in a field for years was to clean off the braided ground wire. Was so fun to work on. Good luck with yours.
@29:53 you reference the Draft Tube and start to explain Crankcase Pressure. Right around 1955, the PCV valve was introduced, which vented Crankcase Gases through the Intake Manifold, to be burned with the Air/Fuel Mix. PCV is an Acronym for "Positive Crankcase Ventilation" (as opposed to PVC which is Poly-Vynil Chloride, which is Plastic). Yes, with only a Draft Tube, some oil is lost to the Atmosphere. You need a 12v battery to fire a 12v Coil (just don't turn the lights on, while the 12v battery is in it).
I agree with all you said. But you missed his theory of EGR removing crankcase pressure.
I must have.
i got a ford y block running that had sat around 30 or 40 years it is a good motor 70 psi oil pressure and it looks like jonathon w is a bit more experienced on getting old stuff working with out buying parts
brand new that engine wouldn't make 70 psi of oil pressure
I bought one of those when I was 14 from a guy I used to deliver newspapers to on my paper route😀. It was a 52 Chevy 1/2 ton. It needed a clutch. We drug it home with a chain and I put a clutch in it. It ran good. That's how I learned to drive a stick😀
this thing had a 6 volt system with the battery under the floorboard. foot starter by the accelerator petal. I just kept the 6 volt starter, bought a 12 volt battery, changed the generator and regulator to a 55 chevy. Ran for years no problem. The bulbs had to be replaced too
Beautiful job guys and hello from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷
Jonathan W on the u tube is an old school southern gentleman who gets these old iron rescues running all the time. Even built a wood wheel once to get his Elcar on the road...
Highly recommended!
Also , elderly iron, classic truck rescue, and daniel restodan.
Was thinking Jonathan would have this running already.
He has a good Chanel, will tackle anything, not really a southern gentleman, but a misplaced West Virginia hillbilly.
@@johnr8476 ... lol A pine comb by another name smells as good.
A ballast resistor must be added to drop points' voltage to 6V for anyone upping their electron game to 12V. By throwing a spare in the glove box, beside the points and condenser, yours could last forever.
What I did was aired up the tires and had a friend pull me around the block. Of course, we made sure things were free. Just remember to turn the key on.
Love Old trucks !! Had all Chevy's '46 1/2ton, '48 1/2ton, '52 1-1/2ton 8ft. Bed, '54 1/2ton & '65 Apache 1/2ton, '67 3/4ton, '68 3/4ton 4x4, '69 1/2ton, '72 1/2ton, '77 3/4ton 4x4
Yes Davin! You could probably make anything run!
I learned To Drive In One Just Like It. Probably Has A 3 On The Tree, And A Floor Pedal Starter!
Great real world content thanks.
My dad had one of these workhorses for many years. Great truck
I know a man who has had one of these trucks since it came out and still uses it to this day
oh I want it.. that is my favorite truck of all time. Prefer a 3100 with a 235 but........ nice
Probably too late now, but I would've tried new coil / spark plug wires and give it a go... Would have been awesome to hear it pop once... But I understand you're on a time line to get it going. Can't wait to see your rebuild.... Greetings from GR...
Great looking pickup! My dad still has a '53 3600 on the road that doesn't look that nice. Be ready to swap rear end ratio (probably 4.56) or you'll be going 45 max with that babbitt beater.
Okay here’s what gets me: Are you going to fix the truck? Yes? PUT RLLING TIRES ON. Are you going to fix the engine? Yes? Pull the freaking radiator and fan out to turn it over.... cleaning and fixing as you go.
I’ve wasted so much time trying to take short cuts when it is BEST to just do it right, from the start! Commitment.
I LOVE THIS TRUCK. Nice pick!
An old school note from Upper Michigan....... We always replaced the 6 volt battery with a 9 volt battery it will recharge from stock generator, and turn the engine over much faster. ..... not to mention the lights will be brighter too. (comes in handy in the winter eh.
8 volt🎉😂
First time in a long time I've not skipped a CZcams video, watched the whole way through, loved the suspense.
My pop bought a new 1950 Chevrolet 1/2 ton the year I was born. I learned how to drive with it. Weak points were burnt exhaust valves, sometimes the manifold would warp causing it to suck air and miss, big thing was rods knocking, have to use a plastic gauge to re shim the rod caps for proper clearance. They had a good 50 MPH cursing speed, geared pretty slow by today's standards.
Try some marvel mystery oil down each one of the spark plug cylinders and let it soak a few hours . Then, the cylinders should turn easy , and then you can leave plugs out and pump oil out spark plug holes . Put plugs back in !
Give the boys from cold war motors a call theyll have her running and rolling in a heartbeat
Excelente video como siempre. Saludos desde Argentina.
My gramps drove one of those for years. I've always wanted one.
@James D Romandy I like any of those during that era. I had a 53 Ford when i was a kid back in 83.
Would've been 601 if I'd been able to make it to the live feed. I was working. I'm watching this whole thing during lunch.
Nice Truck. There's a lot of old car's and trucks sitting around that can be saved. I have had my eye on a 73 Impala for 8 years that is sitting under a carport near me. I want that car so bad but just don't have money to offer them for it. It has been off the road for a long time. It has stuff piled on it. If it has the small block 400 in it, it would be even better. Those were good motors. But a lot of them were 350.
Stove bolt 6 came from the size of the bolts on the engine... Which shared the same as the old iron stoves they used back in the day.
You might invest a little in a set of plug wires , a coil and get the boss to toss in some wheels and tires.
I want to see more videos like this on this channel to learn some more.
all you gotta do is put a test light on the negative side of the coil and spin it over. If it blinks it usually mean the coil is ok. if it stays on the points are not grounding the coil. condensers go bad just setting up too.