History's Landmark Shotguns
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- čas přidán 8. 04. 2020
- Jonny wades through some of the most important shotguns designs in history, focusing on landmark designs and innovations.
Many minor inventions missed out, but if you feel like they deserved to be there, let us know in the comments.
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Ps. Apologies for looking behind the camera constantly, the kid was playing in the garden and proved too pleasant a distraction
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Hope you’re keeping well mate! I still have to go to work, I’m a nurse in ICU. Your videos have been keeping me going through the night in my T breaks. Stay safe mate.
Thankyou for your hard work mate
Precise and concise history! Lovely video again TGS!!!
Nothing wrong with not using ejectors ... For one, in the field you don't need to go looking for the ejected cartridges
Great content Jonny, must have taken hours of research to do - love it all - thanks for the watch 😍😍
Great video for a Thursday afternoon and educational too.
Rev Forsyth's scent bottle absolute game changer thanks for carrying on the the good work for me you are a key worker 👍
Gough Thomas reckoned the bolt action shotgun was extremely under rated.
Does anyone disagree that John Browning was the greatest and most influential firearm designer of all time? Any top ten list of virtually any type of gun must include at least one of his designs. And usually more than one.
Well done guys, interesting video.
Nice video! Thanks for making them in these trying times, stay safe and healthy!!
Hope you are doing Ok
TGS Outdoors thanks, yes so far so good, lots of work around the house.
Hope you guys are well.
I'd love to see a TGS video on sidelocks vs droplocks. And I'd humbly suggest the Benelli M4 to the list.
The M4 - why is that?
@@tgsoutdoors First reliable gas-operated shotgun adopted by the military.
Grade video continue
Great vid!
WW Greener cross bolt/ treble wedge fast guns are my fave. But I’m a greener fanboy
The greener crossbolt deserved a mention!
@@tgsoutdoors Or the rotary bolting system for superior geometry, resistance to wear (going off face), etc.
Thanks for a superb video. I agree that the Browning Auto 5 is probably the GOAT. The feeling during recoil is peculiar but despite that all three of my 12 bore Auto 5s shoot more accurately than my double barreled guns. And my buddy's 16 bore shoots even better than the 12 bores.
what was the first shotgun?
Gas and inertia based automatics deserve a mention-Remington 1100 and Benelli inertial gun maybe
Cracking video as always. I'd be interested in seeing what you reckon is the most reliable, rust proof, workhorse shotgun out there. Maybe the Remington 870 super mag camo? Stay safe in lockdown lads.
Most reliable shotgun in my opinion is definitely an over under when Remington was acquired by the freedom group for about a period of 10 years they were making lemons of a gun and you had no way to tell if you got a good one or a bad one mossberg had a similar problem I would stay away from either of these companies guns from 2007-2015 production I have a mossberg 500 in camo and they aren't rust proof by far they are just better at not showing it and as the gun gets older the camo has chipped away. I have a 870 with an 18" barrel and a 2 shot tube extension and these guns excluding the marine and wingmaster models were cerekoted finish not blued mine has not held up well it scratches easily (even if you take good care of it) and it has rusted in some spots on the surface where the finish has came off my 870 was made in 2010 and it is definitely not comparable to 80's and 90's guns in quality or finish
Sounds like a good video idea to us.
I don't know who invented or used the bored choke , but I was at a turkey shoot back in the 80s , and a man brought a red letter Winchester model 37 , the judges told him you can use it but if you get protested you will have to withdraw or let him use it , I ask why , he said it's because it has a bored choke , not swaged . (I might have spelled that wrong)
Still salivating over that first Boss. But didn't he "borrow" his design from a French maker some 10 years or so before?
I was wrong: It was 24 years before Thomas Boss!
PS, Does anyone know who invented the Top Lever? I’ve forgotten.
Was it the W C Scott spindle?
Hell! How did I miss that one out - I feel like a part 2 is in order 😂
great video, looking on your website and cant see any gunstock though
Do the history of "good, thumpy cartridges" (insert TSC Dave's accent)
“You can’t knock it” 🤣
Hi Jonny goin back to steel shot I have a berreta ultralite gold and a koffs sceptre and am having a prob finding out if there ok to use with steel shot. Any ideas ? Thanks steve
The Kofs is for sure. You will
Need to check the ultralight for the fleur de lis symbol
No full auto shotguns!
Don't forget the modern unique beretta ugb25
Very special design indeed
Hi Jonny sorry me again, I've been looking at my ultra lite with a magnifying glass , there's a proof but not the typical Fleur de lis, it is fixed choke. I'm a dianasore and can't suss out how to send you the photo of the stamp. Cheers Jonny.
I think I will just be standard steel groot with a CIP and an S underneath?
I have personally put superior steel through these fixed choke guns but cannot ‘professionally’ recommend it
@@tgsoutdoors this will be the last one Jonny, it has two stars with per underneath, does this mean anything to you ? Have a good Easter and thanks so much
Psf underneath the two stars
Strange, is there stars on each barrel?
@@tgsoutdoors no just the bottom barrel
Cool was it not a clergy that invented mercury primer ?
Plesae provide me with information about Grand Pix Guns
No absolute unique ideas? What about the benelli 828 o/u yeah it is a long way from traditional styling but having an aluminum reciever truly unique locking design comb adjustments with out a graco system truly offers the most unique and modern design of an o/u. Now even though it's a stray away from tradition and doesn't have a timeless look there is unarguably nothing else out there like it. When it launched it was the lightest o/u on the market in 12 gauge and as far as I'm aware it still is.
That is a good point.
Deserves a mention in a potential part 2 ‘gray shotgun innovations 1931-2020.
I think though even this benelli has inspiration from others I have not mentioned and drawn them together into a very special package
I believe that choke boring is an American invention. A man by the name of Fred Kimble choke bored 6-bore muzzle loader that supposedly would put a 1-1/2 oz. charge of #3 inside a 24" circle. Kimble writes:
"Getting back to the old six-bore. As I remember it now, I got my six-bore gun in 1872. Thomas Kilby of Birmingham England made the barrel, and Joseph Tonks stocked it. I bored it myself and sent some of the targets to Joe Long, who at the time was doing some advertising for Greener. He wrote to Greener and told him about my gun. Back came the answer that my gun must be secured if possible and sent to him.
Joe represented to me that it would give him a great pull with Greener if I boxed up the gun and sent it as requested. Five months later the gun was returned without comment and without thanks. Very shortly thereafter Mr. Greener began winning all the prizes at the English gun trials, also claiming all the credit for the discovery, though sometimes admitting it was an American invention."
This is further validated by the introduction to the 1910 edition of "The Gun and It's Development", where it is written:
"Choke boring has been more or less adopted by all gun-makers since that date, and it is for this reason that we say that Mr. Greener's reputation is based on the introduction of the invention. Mr. Greener makes no claim to be the inventor of choke boring; what he claims is that he improved an American invention to such an extent, that in 1874 and 1875 no one who had gotten hold of the American method had any chance of making such patterns as he could get out of his guns."
So in my opinion, unless Pape's patents show that he was the inventor of choke boring, Kimble is the actual inventor...
Tuton25 I totally agree, I always believed Greener to say he “perfected choke boring” leaving Pape to claim he invented it. Either way, the The Field Magazine Trials results were pretty conclusive.
Need to include inertia action that was developed by a Scandinavian for Semi-automatics around the year 1910. Design has been stolen by many other people who designed guns. Benelli Super Black Eagle and its derivatives for example voted semi-automatic shotgun of the century. And secondly detachable triggers innovation used by the likes of Beretta, Perazzi, Zoli, etc. And thirdly the use of V Springs! Used by all high-end manufacturers.
Panel Pins !!!!!!!!!!! , next time.
Another invention done by Winchester. The winchoke system. Copied by just about everybody.
You forgot about the sawn off shotgun. No self respecting scumbag would rob a bank without one!