Ep. 77: Cello Before & After Sound Adjustment - PART 1
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- čas přidán 28. 10. 2020
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And finally a great thanks to Marco Mauro Moruzzi, a native cremonese Cellist, who is now studying at the Mozartheum in Salzburg, Austria. He is always a great reference and help while adjusting the cellos.
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❗️Turn on the subtitles to read the translation of the last part of the video 😄
Even over the internet the difference is audible. Congratulations, Master!
Grazie mille Edgar
per avere condiviso le tue saggezze 🙏
Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom
😍 WOW !! Das klingt ja unglaublich besser !!! Ich glaube, da gibt es nochmals eine Himbeertorte oben drauf !! 😉 LG an deine liebe Frau und Kompliment an deine Tochter für den tollen Schnitt. 👌Freu mich schon, wenn ich wieder auf dem Cello spielen kann. Grazie mille Edgar 🤗
Bravissimo come il solito! Mi è piaciuto tantissimo! Complimenti! Thank you so much for sharing this with us! Salve!
wow!!!! the difference is so clear!
I strongly believe it’s Italian! And a beautiful one .. I really like the new bridge
You are right! It is italian and it is precious!
already back at its owners and we made a certificate already.
Und natürlich vielen Dank auch an Marco !!! Er ist wirklich ein fabelhafter Cellist. Danke für dein tolles Feedback.
Have a mass produced violin with an open G string that sounds like this Cello did, a lot of string vibration and rumbling. Instead of moving the sound post front back I move the bridge a mm or so which is quicker and safer for me as far as knocking it over. I thought a high tension G string might reduce vibration amplitude but have not done that yet. The post may be too far out and I will probably try moving it in some. The videos at least give me the knowledge to do the experimentation in a somewhat proven way.
Excelente resultado.
Qué pena que no pueda comprarle un violin suyo.
Quizás en la próxima vida.
Moving the bridge over made a big difference.
What an impressive difference! Awesome work. Maybe I should bring my mess of an eBay cello to see you someday. xD Don't worry, I wouldn't actually do that to you lol.
You changed the diameter of the sound post but was the length ok ?
Where is beter white bridge or yelow bridge
Just curious Mr Edgar, did any of your old instrument expert friends ever tell you who made that cello or what it was? It looks very similar to my instrument which sounds quite good.... to me
Right now my cello sounds like the “before” example at the start but even worse. It it always sounds im playing close to the bridge and the strings all feel tight compared to the school cellos. so i think maybe my bridge is to tall
It is too difficult to tell the difference because the cello is tuned differently in the two clips, which makes a large difference in how i hear it.
I do not have the best headphones, but it seems both higher (tuned up), and clearer afterwards (more open). It seems like quite a nice improvement to me!
My ears are not that advanced (I cannot hear a difference in tuning 😅)
But in my opinion the first sample sounds like echoing and the „after“-sample sounds clean and clearer.
The 'after' playing is more in tune, not helped by the fact that the 'before' instrument was out of tune to begin with!
yes, the fact that the second one is tuned a little higher made it a little bit confusing but when I focused on timbre I could clearly very obviously tell the difference
It does however appear that the musician is having a much easier time playing after Edgar's work, which says a lot already.
To me, before the adjustments, it sounded like I heard quite a bit more bow noise, compared to after. Perhaps that was because the actual instrument sound was muted, allowing the bow sounds to be heard. But what do I know? (Nothing) I’m just an armchair luthier, with no actual experience.
Thanks to Anna for the wonderful editing. Any chance someone could add some translation of Marco's comments?
Thank you Suze! For the translation you can activate the subtitles and read everything in english 😄
Love your information on cello. But if you could adjust your mic we would not hear all that sucking noise.
I am sorry I can not understand Italian but the difference is audible. I hope if you can translate Italian into English.
I really wish these videos would show 1) note-for-note comparisons and 2) blind comparisons.
Hearing the low passages before adjustment and the high passages after adjustment is not very helpful. Immediately being told which is before and which is after also affects the way we hear and judge the performances.
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The adjustment has better reverb and balance but the tone quality is nasal unfortunately
I guess what a luthier can made to avoid nasal sound?
Adel Kharisov that’s quite easy actually. You have to move the sound post slightly away from the bridge. Every cello as well has a specific tone that it’s naturally tuned to. If it has a sharper tone quality you’ll have to use a deeper tone quality bridge. Witch by defect is a more mellow maple like the one Aubert Mirecourt tends to use. The strings as well, on this cello I would use two larsen strings on top and spirocore on the bottom so it can naturally open up. That’s why you always need to go to a very skilled luthier, who takes into consideration these aspects.
Compared himself to stradivari..
No difference