Tidal Wave is NOT a good Top 1
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- čas přidán 11. 06. 2024
- Tidal Wave, Geometry Dash's new upcoming Top 1 made by @OniLink is soon going to be verified by @Zoink. However, the community is split on whether this level deserves its position as the upcoming Top 1.
Note that the opinions in this video are all my own. Majority of them being speculations, so I could be wrong at certain parts. However, I do hope you respect said opinions. If you disagree with any of them, feel free to comment down below!
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0:00 Intro
0:25 Defining Top 1s
1:55 Zoink's Gameplay
4:06 Level Quality
5:54 Conclusion - Hry
Before you comment:
1. No I do not like hell levels. I just use Slaughterhouse as an example cuz it's well known and it nailed its atmosphere as mentioned in the video.
2. Each chapter is separate from each other. So in a way, comparing Slaughterhouse to Tidal Wave, Slaughterhouse will be more memorable imo. But in the grand scheme of things, hell levels are overdone anyway, so Tidal Wave is definitely a fresh breath of air.
3. I barely mentioned the gameplay in the video. And all the stuff I mentioned about the gameplay are purely speculation as the level wasn't out when this video was made.
4. Bad Top 1 =/= Bad Level. Overall as a brief conclusion, TW could've been executed better, that's what I don't like about it as a Top 1. Otherwise, good level.
5. Yes I acknowledged the like to dislike ratio is bad, stop commenting about it since you're not adding anything to the criticism.
6. Wish I could reply to all the new constructive criticism comments, but honestly the bad ones drown them out I don't really care about replying anymore. Stuff like "lmao x amount of dislikes on this video what a joke" and "gd player when no hell level as top 1" gets old really quick.
Original Comment:
To make things more clear, Tidal Wave is a great level for a solo project, it has a good idea for a theme and tried to stand out from all the hell levels we got recently. Respect to OniLink for improving in creating immensely.
And to those who are saying I just want more hell levels, I would say no. In fact it's the opposite, I just want more levels that stand out like Ascension to Heaven, Heliopolis and many more that might release in the future.
And for final clarifications, for Top 1s, not just levels in general, **TOP 1s**, I would prefer something intense and stands out.
Levels like Flamewall, Heliopolis, Ascension to Heaven does those well. Has really intense gameplay, great theming and definitely stands out, and both are the opposite ends of the gameplay spectrum (one is an insane timing level, one is an XL fast paced level).
Tidal Wave for sure stands out, though it lacks in executing the theming and decoration, as well as the gameplay as compared to upcoming top 1s like those mentioned above. Therefore, it doesn't fit that well as a top 1 personally.
Edit: Damn y'all really took this video too seriously, it's just an opinion video, geez. Thanks for the dislikes I guess, definitely gonna make more of these because I want to see the dark side of this community where people with less than half a brain who can't respect opinions on a 4 dollar cube game exists.
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Oh hey you're active again great to see you back
@@crazygamerpug4028I never left, I was just active on twitch a lot while not uploading on youtube
@@Anglified oh dang I never use twitch so I would have never known but still awesome
I think that it's silly to expect that a top 1 level needs to be edgy and hell themed. I welcome Tidal Wave as a much much needed breath of fresh air from red and grey levels that have been choking the top 1 scene for a while.
Exactly, I think top 1s should have all gamemodes, but all with a high skill level required. Anyway, while I'm here, I've been looking for a song so I can make a 7 to 15 minute long top 1, so do you have any recommendations?
I just think the design isn’t that good I like the idea and love the song but the deco is lacking
@@zectrothian yeah its an old level and the deco gets way better near the end as you see the creator improve pretty much my only problem with it
Hell or no top1
basically half the top 1s we've had so far were hell levels and tidal wave has a unique theme that we dont see much, i agree with this
i love how chill tidal wave is for its top 1 position. basically proves that a level doesnt need to be some edgy hell themed bs with the most hellish song possible (couhg cough slaughterhouse). we need more top 1s that are unique in their own way like tidal wave. obviously it still has to fit the top 1 spot well, but that doesnt automatically mean hell theme and edginess
I cant react or else im gonna ciugh to much
For real levels like this and zodiac really stand out to me because they arent themed after the depths of hell
don't you dare insult slaughterhouse
I cant even react or else im gojna cough so much
I love the fact that this top 1 isn’t so edgy, top 1s should be a challenge but they can still be fun an upbeat they don’t gotta be depressing and intense
@@goldenapple27 man is this guy baiting 💀
Zoink's buffs are being moderated closely so the level will hopefully be pretty fun and it looks so satisfying :O
Zoink has not touched the level, The level was intended to be a Top 1
@@NeverAThingz not true but ok
@@NeverAThingz he did once , at least from my knowledge, after he got a 100$ donation
@@userdendunichtbrauchst3564 he said he would buff the level slightly everytime he would get a $1 dono but people kept donating, so he stopped after 5 minutes or so.
I love how the community collectively shits on Avernus when Zoink has also verified Kocmoc and Tunnel of Despair
@alexandroscotter3577 I meant like everyone just think Zoink verification = fixed hitboxes and no chance for enjoyment just because of one verification that turned out to be like that, which isn't even that fair since Zoink was likely told by kyhros that the level aims to be top 1-5
Has Tunnel of Despair gotten decent feedback ? The only one I've seen was from Ninjadan who said they had an incredibly fun time botting the level
I do agree with the comment btw, the reputation Zoink has gotten because of Avernus is so unfair and blown out of proportion, it's insane
the only victor of kocmoc says its bad so idk if thats a good example
@@baifor7 That's Trick, and it's probably because it wouldn't be enjoyable to play a level that you verified but then had to rebeat and not even be considered verifier anymore
@@imarandomperson761 yeah true but i think kocmoc is kind of out of the question then since nobody's really commented on it
i think the ridiculousness of a beach themed top 1 makes it really funny and great. its a breath of fresh air compared to boring ass lava hell stuff.
I mean yeah I’m assuming hell doesn’t have the freshest air
the decoration isn’t good though.
@@Cahrssomething i can breathe fire it'll be fine
@@Ranyyzlmao i disagree
@@AustynL It's not bad, it's greatly unpolished, the waves at the bottom of the first wave section look completely ass, while some other parts in the level look gorgeous. Some transitions are beyond lazy while others are ok.
Once again, an unpolished level in my opinion.
Top 1 is not about the nature of the level or how it looks, it is quite literally about it’s difficulty. Yes it might not be a good top 1 but it will be a top 1 anyway just because of how hard it is no matter if it is more or less intimidating than Slaughterhouse.
for me, tidal wave doesnt look as intimidating, even though it is harder than slaughterhouse, and i just had that small grudge on it, its just my own opinion
certain players who has no concept of difficulty still might think slaughterhouse is harder cuz of how intense and intimidating it is, since that's majority of the community's population if you think about it, which this video is directed towards (the entire community)
but yeah, valid take on this, thanks for the feedback
it doesn't have to be intimidating.@@Anglified
@@EHMM well that's my opinion, never said its objectively correct but that's what I prefer future top 1s to be
@@EHMM Nothing has to do anything.
Not using levels difficulty to add to the theme is a huge waste of opportunity, so a top 1 that fully ignores its difficulty is really disappointing to see. (And using difficultly and giant difficulty range is a unique art tool that GD has, so to me Tidal Wave being popular is quite insulting to GD creativity)
@ERRR0RR To be fair tidal wave is not as well known as most of the top 1 levels that came before. Its only getting a lot of attention now because its gonna be verified soon
In my opinion, top 1 levels should be about gameplay and depending on how hard it is should be its placement. Not saying repetitive gameplay like straight fly, tight jumps, and precise wave movements should be in a top 1. Also, this is my opinion.
He agrees with that, he's just saying that thematically it doesn't work as a level of this difficulty and that the decoration is horrendously unoptimized (as beautiful as parts of it may be)
Geometry dash player when a top level isn’t hell themed
Bro didnt even watch the video
I think the fact that it doesn’t look as intimidating as other top 1 demons makes it way more intimidating as a top 1
I absolutely love the idea of a non hell themed level as the top one where you can actually see what your doing and its not just a glorified memory level. I WANT TIDAL WAVE
ascension to heaven is a better top 1
@@luhdatrariyes but tidal wave is solo and the deco is from 3 years ago
To be honest, a few things I have to agree with there. Slaughterhouse and Acheron definitely look a lot more intimidating, but I think it’s a bit nice to have a calming and slightly more sight-readable top 1 and it gives us a little break from some overused top 1 styles. I think it is very overdecorated tho, and I personally don’t think it will be a great top 1 as well, but a top 1 is still a top 1. But it will prob still be bad cuz Zoink will superbuff it again lol
We need a city themed top 1 where you car crash, or a minigame top 1
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I think many players are at a point where we can take anything that’s objectively not a bad level and not hell themed to be a top 1. Tidal Wave to me looks kinda unpolished still, but the overall intensity, its build up from sunrise to sunset, and XL length make it seem to me like one of the most intimidating challenges the game has ever seen. It’s kinda like an even better Sonic Wave.
I think if the decoration was just optimized then half the problem would be gone
oh yeah And if sakupen circles was like xl or something it would've properly been the hardest level
I think decoration-wise, ocular miracle is such an insanely good representation of an ideal top-1 kind of aesthetic. hell theme has had the crown for years. i love the artificial ascent/ocular miracle stuff.
those are severely underappreciated
Personally, I think it is my favorite level ngl. I watch it all the time on youtube and I love the music. The reason it should be top 1 is because
those waves look really hard, and the buffed version got rated im pretty sure.
if most of the top 25 have hell/eerie-themed levels then tidal wave would be a PERFECT top 1 imo, bc with all of the garbage we currently have this level could make the game even better due to its ideas with gameplay and decoration (which is unusual but in a good way)
ascension to heaven is the perfect top 1
just because it has different theming doesn't mean you should overlook its gameplay aspects, it's completely generic because of how wave-based it is
Even if this becomes a top 1, it won't be for long because ATH and Orochi are both almost complete and ready to be verified.
i like ATH, but i dont like orochi that much, mainly cuz i dont like the song that much (yes i have a weird taste in music)
@@AnglifiedI agree with most of ur opinions
The Apocalyptic Trilogy, Grief and Every End are already complete and Trick is gonna start verifying TAT very soon, I don't know when the respective verifiers will start the other two tho
Imo, Bloodlust was the perfect top 1
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Fair enough
I think Acheron and slaughterhouse perfected the feel of top 1’s though
Bloodbath was hard because of gp, not deco, and bloodlust lost that
Tidal Wave if probably going to be my favorite top 1 ever because it is extremely refreshing to see a non hell themed top 1 lol
I do think this level should be a bit optimised, but I like it as a top 1. Finally a beach themed top 1 after years
some of the points u made are the exact reason why i and many more think this is an amazing top 1, ever since cataclysm which was top 1 when i started playing years later almost every top 1 still follows this trend of the same edgy and hellish theme with a few exceptions which are in my opinion the best top 1s we have ever had (zodiac for example), what i hope tidal wave and the levels that come after it will achieve is finally diversify the top levels in terms of themes (and gameplay too hopefully)
I think this level has some originality, I mean, we've never seen a top 1 with happy music and a beach theme, I honestly like the level, that's if the decoration is weak, but at least it's a decoration that doesn't bother like the one in slaughterhouse 😺
I think in my opinion we have seen so MANY HELL LEVEL TOP 1 that now we are not used to normal levels now
Edit: Onilink did this as a solo? My goodness such a great level but i should say this: Lets hope there will be more top 1's like this.
Смешной ребенок не знает что такое тема ада и жрёт говно камазами 😱
@@DubstepCatT05 it's not like I hate hell theme top 1's like slaughterhouse is such a cool top one and let's be honest
NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR OPINION😑
@@anujnbajpaiОн сказал то, что ты не хочешь услышать, поэтому его мнени никому не нужно?
Этот уровень слишком плох чтобы вообще его обсуждать
Guys, he didn’t meant Tidal Wave is bad, he meant that it’s bad as a top 1.
ye look at avernus
I hate it anyway
@@usibistro okay
I personally find Acheron the worst. Like it isn't even scary and intimidating
@@vedantsridhar8378tidal wave just makes Acheron looks like genius level
I agree with the "slaughterhouse or tidal wave" one, cuz ur completely right slaughterhouse is so intense and you can see the difficulty of it while tidal wave is more like a really nice level with good deco but its top 1
Hi guys and @Anglified, Zoink is better now to buff because of the community reaction after avernus. Also he is helped by lordvadorcraft, atomic and others to make the level nice and enjoyable.
atomic confirmed it in the comments already, as well as onilink, but thanks!
I'm not in any position to judge or speculate how levels would interact with the game/community as a whole, but I will say that the level itself is a welcome change of scene from the all too well known "dark, hell, or intimidating" theming that's often used and prioritized in the hardest levels circulating throughout the game's lifespan.
Although, I'd have to agree with your statement on how the level doesn't quite live up to some player's expectations and standards (i.e. the reused backgrounds).
Nevertheless, the noticeable imperfections could simply be chalked up as an excuse due to the level being a solo project, which is indeed is the case.
In the end, I would say that opinions generally have to be taken with a grain of salt, as an individual's personal beliefs on a certain matter holds wildly varying levels of scrutiny.
now this, respect
haha change of scene i get it.
PLEASE HELP ME
Im glad that we are finally getting another non hell themed and more colourful top 1 like zodiac, it isnt a super edgy dark and red hell themed level
I find it ironic that you’re pfp us off slaughterhouse
@@Duck-wk8pxnot anymore, I had a phase💀
To be fair, it's not hell-themed.
exactly....ppl feel fear watching top1.....but still demonic is not important but this can still comes at top60 or 70
Ngl we're focusing alot on how good a top 1 level should be, When we should truly look out for more creativity in this game.
I think its way more fun to have very unique levels with fun themes that don't take themselves seriously. A beach theme isnt even that outlandish when you compare it to games like celeste where some of the hardest level themes include: voting in a presidential election and a troll remake of the first level
Just for clarification, I’m pretty sure onilink said that the level was actually originally top 1, and that he is carefully watching zoink to make sure he doesn’t ruin the level. That being said, I THINK he said that, not perfectly sure :D
Look at his death at 90%, looks like fixed saws
@@projugofastall oki, I never said that fixed hitboxes were bad tho. Only a few per section is fine imo, more than that is overkill. So yea, i think there’s not fixed hitbox spam. Especially after the hate zoink got for that.
There is no reason why I a top 1 should have to be hell themed. There are far more approaches you can have to making a top 1 than just “intimidating lava atmosphere”.
That’s is the reason why a lot of people think it’s a good top one because it unique and not like most top 1 levels that are dark and hell themed people have jus gotten used to that and when they something that strays away from it they call it bad
its unique for sure, and it definitely grew on me ever since i watched it for the first time, its just there are way better levels that fit the top 1 spot like ascension to heaven
and i should also note that i dislike hell levels lol, its just slaughterhouse really took level intensity to the next level back then compared to levels like zodiac
Of corse the are but ig we gotta be happy with what he have it’s still a cool level and ide be open to it having as a top 1 yk
“Its not a hell themed so i dont like it”
bruh I never mentioned this mf is just assuming stuff
Zoink is LITERALLY the anti trusta
I actually felt that tidal wave was easier than slaughterhouse because of the calmer atmosphere
I like the fact that Tidal Wave is a level that escapes the monochromatic red that hell levels are, most of the demons that have this theme are made for the Demon List, to look like a demon, to live up to the top 1 position extreme demon, but I'm already sick of these types of levels, I think now they sound like more of the same, Tidal Wave escaped that and made a top 1 with a colorful and calmer atmosphere, as well as having really cool music, which despite that is a NON, they made a remix that can be used in the level. I believe it will be a memorable level, both for the decoration and the difficulty, I wish OniLink and Zoink much success for having collaborated to make this level a top 1.
I personally like it, I feel it would be an ok top 1, but it doesn’t have the top 1 feeling, however the gameplay looks really fun, despite probably being better if slightly nerfed, it’s also xL so it’s way more accessible, I also like how it looks, it’s really charming but also is kinda messy which is my main issue, I still really like it tho
Good video
Honestly, it does have top 1 feeling. In fact, there IS no top 1 feeling, it was just ruined by a whole series of hell/dark levels, so it looks like a light level wouldnt be a top 1.
I somewhat agree, it’s more of there’s something about it that makes it not feel right as a top 1, similar to acheron for me
I do think light levels can feel good as top 1s, I think ascension to heaven and eod, or limbo would make great top 1s
Though limbo and eod never got that cuz of other levels lol, but they weren’t really advertised as top 1 anyways
Im sure you have heard this alot by now but legit im really happy to have a top one that isnt hell themed. This is the first top one in a WHILE that really caught my attention. Like ya i agree that hell themed levels are probably more fitting for a top one but when most of the top ones we get are hell themed it gets really hard to care when someone creates a new hell level. So this is a really nice change of pace.
Plus, the level looks really fun. I wish I was good enough to play it
its a nice change of scene (GD reference not intended), but personally tidal wave is overall not executed well enough to deserve that spot, i'd much rather wait for ascension to heaven, heliopolis, and many more better levels to be out
either way, im glad zoink verified this beast of a level, despite me personally not liking this level as much as other upcoming top 1s
ill probably play it on stream as well so i can see how fun it is since ive heard a lot of positive stuff about it
I know another extreme demon that is not hell its poocubed. And others are also there.
@@TheXDasher564 poocubed was never top one. There are alot of hard extremes that aren't hell themed but the only somewhat recent top 1s that arent hell themed that come to mind are tidal wave and zodiac. If you wanna stretch it firework too but that level isn't much different from a hell themed one.
i... agree... somehow... because i get what youre saying with slaughterhouse being more ENERGETIC, and having that top 1 feel to it, but my favourite demonlist levels are poocubed and limbo💀💀
2:53 AAAAAAHHHHH NO NOT AGAIN WHYYYYYYYY (It has 130 fp before he picked the level)
I should've done more research before simply assuming like that, that was my bad on my end, though I hope the final product will be heavily monitored so that Zoink doesn't buff the level to point where it's not fun
Good luck on getting this rated, (more like congrats because I know this will be rated), you are very underrated and deserves more :)
@@Anglified His version is the hardest one but also the best (thanks a lot!)
@@AnglifiedAlso there’s a Hitboxe difference showcase between my version and Zoink’s version on Cosmo’s channel
I like this level, but you have a point. When I think of top 1, I never think of tidal wave or acheron. Anyways great video. Also may I ask , how do you even do commentary? I've been trying all day today to do a commentary video but I suck at it. So do you have any tips you'd like to share?
write down a script, review the script multiple times until youre satisfied, split it into different segments, and record a bunch of times until you're satisfied with that segment
also thx for the nice words
@@Anglified ye but how do you do live commentary without being boring? Like I've watched alot of your streams bc they're so entertaining and I've been trying to do live commentary but it's impossible lol. Anyways tysm for the tips btw. I'll be sticking with post commentary for now
so you just want like a bunch more generic hell theme top 1s?
@@visiblerat I'm not saying hell top 1s, I'm saying levels that actually feel intense and intimidating. Also what are your opinions on the 2.2 premiere?
@@visiblerat no, i just want top 1s to feel like top 1s
also why are u replying in here
i think the gameplay turned out really good + it not having the hectic feel of other top ones gives some breathing room for more clean difficulty rather than just not being able to see stuff
valid opinion 👍
Everything you said in this video is pretty agreeable, but I did want to clarify one thing. According to Onilink, the version of the level that Zoink is currently verifiying is barely changed from the original version of the decorated level. He explained that the level was originally top 1, nerfed to top 10, and that Zoink was given the top 1 version, in which he changed up a bit. It is possible that Zoink has made changes since, but I think it's unlikely considering he probably doesn't want to repeat his mistakes with Avernus.
I'm actually glad I'm not alone in thinking this, Tidal Wave just doesn't have that top 1 feel to me
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of having a beach themed level in the top 10, but top 1 is a different story.
(Extra stuff edited in after)
[I waited a couple months for this to boil down so I could give my opinion without being glassed by the community]
[Also I love seeing people get mad over an opinion over a square game lmfao]
Tbf, a lot of them aren't able to formulate their own opinions and just fueled by pure dick riding, but the ones who does made a respectable move by sharing their thoughts and opinions, some of my views on this level had changed but I still stand by my point
Tidal wave is the only fun top 1 I've seen in a while
I like having more variety than simple hell levels, but I do agree I like having intense songs/design for Top 1s. I think Tidal Wave is intense enough though. I mean, the wave is just crazy. I think Grief will be the perfect successor to Slaughterhouse though, it’s very fresh for a hell theme.
maybe my standards are too high for what i call "intense", but i really do agree tidal wave is such a breath of fresh air
as for grief, im very neutral about it, since i like the intensity of it especially the second half but i dislike the fact that we're going to have another hell level
reason why the golden didnt have issues like these are because it had atmosphere of top 1(unescapable and intense). tidal wave is worse than the golden.
I have been on the community for quite a time now, something around 8 years or so. I've seen many things through that time, including Bloodbath's verification, Bloodlust as a top 1, the rise of Zodiac, Kenos, it's been quite a story now. But getting to the point of the video there are a few reconsiderations that should be made, even if you dislike the level.
1. Starting with the balancing, after 1.9 update the gamers' look into the top 10 levels was never about how good or how bad a level looks or it's atmosphere, it's about difficulty, what makes my point stand out is the fact that we are talking about a list of the HARDEST humanly possible levels in the game, so saying that something isn't accessible isn't a valid argument due to the nature of the list itself.
2. Themeing, of course it's personal opinion on this topic, but the fact that finally players are deconstructing the hell-themed levels as top 1 is a good thing, not only because we could get more and more creative ideas for top 1 feeling-like levels but also other themeing ideas are to come for top 1's, what I mean is that there would be stuff with dense and tense atmosphere for these who like, such as horror themeing and even more themes, a good example of creativity in the community is the new top 50 level called Jigsaw, take a look at it, it's amazing, Bloodswamps too, maybe even Tenebre Rosso Sangue ps: I love UltraKill. (I like a lot hell-themed levels, but I know just so many of them.. it saturates after some years)
3. Not On Newgrounds song, due to the nature of Geometry Dash I agree that it truly makes the full level experience less accessible and harder to get rated, but I can't see why SlaughterHouse did that and no one has ever said a thing.
4 Level quality, not much to talk about, the problem is really the level, but in such a high speed gameplay you wouldn't notice.
In the end of the day we can really talk about level quality, it's quite questionable, but even if it was Hell-Themed, at this point it would be a joke too. People are used to the usual stuff of course, but changing can be for good, and about the level gameplay's which I see it was your most concern, there is a reason to it, which is to look like an impossible level, when you do some research you can see a pattern in impossible levels, and you can do the same to Tidal Wave, actually the level has 200 60FPS Frame Perfects and is made to look hard. Anyways, nice video, quite explaining and good edition, but that part talking about accessibility really caught me off-guard and I laughed quite a bit, I'm sorry, lol.
nice feedback and opinion, valid for sure :)
tidal wave is just azure fiesta but with a beginning that looks like if core was made by a 5 year old kid really badly and 1000x harder
i wouldnt put it that harshly, but it does remind me of azure fiesta
Bro you really think a 5 year old would make that detailed? It aint that bad jeez ☠️
You definitely like only the hell themed levels
i mostly like simple 1.9 type levels or hinds styled, hell theme is only good when done right@@Tofubous
1. I feel like a level can do a good job at being “threatening” without being hell themed. I feel like sonic wave and zodiac demonstrate this well.
2. Zoink didn’t actually buff this level, it was the creators which means no fixed hitboxes. However a top 120 being buffed to top 1 is questionable
3. I agree with you here. The beach part of the level looks really messy however the update helped it for me
Those are my thoughts lol
Yeah it obviously can be, but this level is adorable, not even remotely close to being intimidating.
Honestly least intimidating top 50 maybe other than poocubed but that's just because it's a joke.
tidal wave is 3 minutes long tho, the amount of energy you need to focus the entire time is insane. While others usually ends in 1.5 minutes
tbh tidal wave stands out more then slaughterhouse for me and not because its more of an exiting level its just because the theme of slaughterhouse aka "scary hell demon pit" has litterly been made a million times like there's bloodlust, cataclysm, sakupen hell, sakupen circles, archeron bloodbath, arcturus, tarturus, and avernus, but tidal wave is just so much different and it just kind of stands out more.
Why does it have to be hell themed to be a top 1 💀🙏
I... Never said that?
I think that this would be better off in its original version (the top 10 one, or even the extended list one), since we all know how terrible of a verifier Zoink is. But it is a great breath of fresh air for this to be the next top one, since they've all been hell styled or extremely edgy since ICDX, with the exception of Sonic Wave and Zodiac.
Everyone collectively calls Zoink a bad verifier when he also verified tunnel of despair and kocmoc. Also, all of the playtesters say Tidal Wave is really fun and balanced.
tidal wave was never actually supposed to be top ten that was a myth spread around it was always intended to be top 1,
thats not even true IT WAS NEVER A ORGINAL VERSION EBCAUSE THE ORGINAL VERSIONWAS TOP 1 ALREADY CAN WE NOT SPREAD RUMORS ON FAKE NEWS
@@Sir_CanoliIt actually wasn't the intended difficulty, when the final version was released it was top 1 but Onilink believed that it was top 10 because the playtesters told him so
I agree that Slaughterhouse has a really great atmosphere, yes, but all the other top 1s similar to it feel trashy because it's basically the same concept done worse. It's kind of like watching a "forbidden lovers" themed movie, there's Romeo and Juliette which is iconic, and then almost everything else feels like a copy of it.
Tidal Wave actually made me feel again, for the first time, the same way Slaughterhouse did. Anyone who's played the game for enough time can see how terrifying it is. It's literally wave gameplay as tight as river's part in SH for 3 minutes straight, with almost no breathing pauses. It's not like other top 1s, which were a bit harder than the last one, this one is in a whole, insane new level. It wasn't made to intimidate new players who know nothing about gameplay, and it doesn't need to be edgy or spooky for that. It's terrifying as it is
This is the greatest solo project I’ve ever seen I need to learn how to decorate like thid
kyouki would be a better example imo, the decoration and gameplay is really great, intense and intimidating
plus, its being a solo project while being solo verified (verified by the creator themselves instead of someone else) as well, thats the cherry on top for me
At least its not a generic red hell level
now this is what i agree with, in fact i shouldve used a different example like ascension to heaven, cuz now everyone hates me for it cuz they think i want more hell levels lmao
I personally love tidal wave It's a refreshing top one from all the bad top of ones we've had recently
been playing for over 10 years, needed to happen, too much red
If i'm very honest, i came back to GD after like 2 years idk somewhere around this, and when I saw this I had no hype, like this just seemed like one of the past levels i've been seeing, infintely perfect moves, to the point where we are heading to just a complete level with only perfect frame jumps which seems ehh i don't know not fun and it just keeps repeating, just make it longer and even harder and yeah but before Bloodbath and Cataclysm, Astral Divnity, Sonic Wave etc... They just seemed so hard and this has been lost already, it's just about make it even more impossible for a human which ig the GD community likes and make some good player verify it and that's it, but this has been repeated so much that it has 0 fun anymore, ALTHOUGH, Limbo added something unique in my opinion, the maze was a good addition and I love it, idk I just see Tidal wave as very simple gameplay level and it lacks essence of what it should be, I can totally agree, but I don't care about the atmosphere, it can be a beach, rainbow glowy idk whatever level but it just has to have some unique aspect. I guess it's just because we've been in the same update for the 20th year now and there's nothing new, it's just repetitions with some new cool glow or animation or re-used gameplay mechanic but with 2.2 we can actually start seeing this essence finally be put again also new players mean more hype and therefore means better atmosphere and seeing that stream of that verifier completing it actually what it should feel and be like :)
Well, Zodiac isn’t insanely intense, yet it is (for me) the first thing that would come up when someone mentions a top 1.
It has great progression, zodiac is great as a top 1 imo as well
I'd say it starts getting very intense after tmn's part, at around 60%~, the "last stretch" being this long leaves a lot of time for the pressure to settle in, making for a very intense ending
It's also very memorable as it is the last top 1 we had before the endless chain of edgy/hell top 1's (Tartarus, Firework, Slaughterhouse, Sakupen Circles, Abyss of Darkness, Acheron)
@@imarandomperson761what I meant was that Zodiac isn’t screaming at you like Slaughter house or Acheron.
Actually building nerves and having intense difficulty isn’t what I was meaning in that
@@user-never-existed Yeah fair, but I'm nor sure that was Anglified's point, he specified that he doesn't necessarily want a hell or edgy level as a top 1 but a level that feels intense, that has your bpm going up just from watching (side note: Acheron actually fails at doing that lmao)
Tho I do agree that Zodiac doesn't entirely fit the criteria, and it's still one of the best top 1s we've ever had
I personally just believe it needs an update to make it look less like something that can be created in 2.0 by anybody and with a boring colour palette in some areas, to something that shows more potential
i agree this level is a good level but its not a good top 1 although its a breath of fresh air from the hell levels. its much better as what the creator wanted it to be, a top 10
Here's my personal opinion on why I like Tidal Wave.
1. Defining a Top 1
In my personal opinion Top 1's are hard while also being appealing and standing out from the rest. For example, Slaughterhouse is hard while standing out in the crowd and being a well known top 1 level. For Bloodbath, it was very hard and it stood out because it was absolute leagues above anything else at the time. The only problem that I have with the 2 levels above this are the fact that they are based off of a certain theme. It's so overdone that I'm just tired of it and Tidal Wave is difficulty, stands out and it uses it's on unique theme. Another level that I really love is Kocmoc which is purple instead of red. I'm actually sad that this level isn't as popular as something like Bloodlust.
To sum it up, in my opinion a Top 1 has to be hard and it has to stand out from the rest.
2. My opinion on Zonk
Personally, I don't like it when Zoink verifies a buffed version of a level that was meant to be in the top 20 for example. The level feels to hard and it isn't that fun to play. In my opinion, if somebody like Trick had verified the level instead then it would be a much better level, however it's still a good level. It could be a lot better but it still feels good to play for people.
3. Level Quality
This level has great quality. It has some clicks that are fun to practice and it has some really good decoration in my opinion. Do I really have to say anymore? It's also Solo sooooo.
Overall tidal wave is a good level in my personal opinion
I see you point. Some people like a more intense or interesting in a way too level. I think it’s fine. I’ve lost interest in the list after Erebus fell off. Good video man❤
also he roasted so many CZcamsrs at 1:03 which includes one of the best content creators lmao (Vit12). That’s is funny
@@EnglishM4haha those were not intentional, it's more of a lighthearted joke
I've watched and love every video listed in that segment, I just thought it was funny to have them there
Also thanks for the kind words
@@Anglified welcome and thanks for clarification since my pea brain is slower than my internet at night
I definitely agree, the nerfed version is WAY better
It was confirmed that zoink never buffed it, (at least that much), as it was already top 1. Also, there is no fixed hitboxes.
there never was a nerfed version , onilink himself nerfed it himself for a showcase nothin more than that
@@Sohcahtoa14there’s a nerfed top 20 version
@@rainityyy i know, but that was never going to be used in the first place.
Me personally I don't really like the level, main reason is, I don't understand the concept of having a cave and then randomly you are at the sea, I might've gotten it wrong and that part with rocks is underwater actually, but I see it more as a cave, also the deco is only good in some parts and the sea background looks pretty bad, but it's understandable as it is a solo, I also find the gameplay very weird sometimes. I feel like the only reason this level is called good is because we finally got a level that isn't hell themed as a top 1.
So, for my personal thoughts as a player who personally beat slaughterhouse when playing tidal wave, it is somewhat a little bit harder. Yes, both levels are very very specifically inputted further waves, and everything else but with title wave, I have a lot more trouble doing the waves for the period of time that it’s putting in where it’s at that I ever had doing slaughterhouse. I don’t know if it’s just a personal thing or not but for me, I think title waves wave is a lot harder than it was doing Slaughterhouse.
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extreme demon enjoyers - “hell levels are so bad”
also extreme demon enjoyers when a non hell level comes out -
I know this comment is a joke but tbh Tidal Wave is alright, just could've been executed better to be a good top 1
honestly the average player wouldn’t notice that this level is bad
@@justouge4502 well, it couldve been executed better visually and aesthetically, as said in chapter 1 and 3
If you don’t like the level redo it yourself and quit complaining
Something I had a really hard time with when it came to Tidal Wave, had nothing to do with the core gameplay or progression. It was the overall quality and consistency of the design and theme of the level. Some parts are decorated VERY well, while others it just feels very low quality and almost lifeless. The prime example being the title card, the wave section's deco has THOUSANDS of objects, while the aforementioned, maybe has a little over a hundred.
nice opinion. half agree with it, i feel the theme is a little underwhelming but i suppose it does make for a good breath of fresh air. i am quite curious to see what the top 1 after this one is like!
This video contains the word 'objective' so your opinion is automatically invalid.
/hj
Objection, your opinion is invalid /j
I don’t really like Tidal Wave, it feels more like a top 1 challenge list level, not a top 1 demonlist level. It just doesn’t give the right vibe.
1:42 “ the gameplay isn’t as chaotic”
Also tidal wave:
To be honest, I appreciate your respect for opposed opinions and honesty about your opinion yourself. Many other creators commit that mistake often. Personnaly, I don't think style matters that much about the levels' position in the Demonlist. Yet, buffing Demons for a higher ranking isn't quite usual and sometimes feels off and even disrespectful.
Buffing a levels is usually in a gray area for me. If people buff a level so that it's balanced, as long the level is well playtested and every input feels fair, I don't see a problem.
But if the level is buffed just for the sake of it, without doing much playtesting and balancing afterwards, that's where most problems arise
Honestly stop winning bro, you can just say you like slaughterhouse more. %99 of top demons are hell themed and this has my respect for not going the cookie cutter route. Top 1s are for enherent difficulty not how much the level LOOKS LIKE BLOOD or how much THE SONG SCARES YOU like grow tf up
ngl top 1s should be always "hell themed"
@@Rand0mGuyFR_ why? Why does it have to be so hell themed and depressing and just intense. Thats the worst thing about top 1s. Even if you ARE good enough to grind it it guves you a terrible feel with satanic themes. Deep songs and just red decoration
You always make good level reviews 👏 i like watching it.
These are good points, and it’s true that it’s very unbalanced. For example: the wave parts are literally impossible considered to the rest of the level
for me i like the idea of Tidal Wave from being the top 1 level (and tbh i know it looks weird 0.o) because, it gives a huge change of how the top hardest levels look like, always (bloddy and hell stuff), the change that gives Tidal Wave for me its really cool, and the song it was really gives a cool give tbh but thats not the point lol, i like your opinion of the level and i understand. (if i mess up on some words, sorry for my english, its not my main language)
For me, any top one which isint hell themed is good, and its fresh and new.
I disagree,I think Tidal Wave is a good top 1
Say why
I used to love this level imo but seeing your point of view on it almost COMPLETELY made me change my mind
dont let my opinion fully convince you, but im glad you did hear me out
Entity named Anglified when no hell theme with 10 minutes straight jump, tight robot jump, and precise wave: 😭😭😭
Imo, the simple reason people love Tidal Wave is that everyone got tired of seeing hell themed levels everywhere. Which sucks because the hell theme back then was the exact style that made the existence of hard levels.. Well, exist (From Cataclysm to Bloodbath and so on). Imo, Tidal Wave is not good or bad, but just like you said it could have been better. It' does not have the same intense atmosphere a top 1 level would have, but well it sure is safe to say that the gameplay sure is hell.
This is a great take on why you think Tidal Wave is not a good top 1 man. This vid was quite intruiging. Your opinion was SPOT ON!
i agree with most of your points with the exception of how you see a top 1, a top 1 is just a level that broke the skill barrier and is the hardest level in the game. it doesnt have to be INTENSE or PITS OF HELL
valid opinion, ive shouldve thought of that and implementing it in the video
thanks for your input :)
I undersstand your point. Maybe you feel that way, because it is the first or one the first levels from the upcoming new era of long 4+ minutes top 1s.
I can't say more because I'm new, so I don't know much!
at least it isnt a hell themed level
Imo top 1s should stand out. Top 1s shouldn’t be a harder version of a lot of list demons, and yes, I’m referring to hell themed levels. Tidal Wave is different. Thinking about the fact of all the list demons, a beach themed level with upbeat music is the hardest, makes it a sound top 1
good take, i just find TW subpar, not worthy of that spot, much rather wait for something else to take that spot, but yeah, your take is still good and valid
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SpaceUK.
Does a top 1 needs to be intimidating to be good/popular ? I'm not so sure.
Let's take a look at Zodiac : it is one of the most popular and recognizable top ones of all time, but still it isn't intimidating in is theme. It's colorful and far from the hell/death theme that other legendary top ones share (Bloodbath/Slaughterhouse/...).
However we can say that Zodiac's gameplay was actually intimidating for its time : the famous wave and the last click are good examples of sections that made the commonon people think "wtf this is so hard !!! How ?!??!!".
But, doesn't Tidal Wave also has intimidating gameplay sections ? I mean, just look at the wave sections : going super fast into theses tight gaps sure does look impressive, but it is maybe less memorable as Slaughterhouse also has that and did it before.
So in conclusion, I still think that Tidal Wave will be a good top one and well received by the community, but won't be as memorable as top levels like Slaughterhouse or Zodiac.
Have a nice day if you read all that.
yeah thats what i thought as well, in terms of intimidation, zodiac definitely does it well and it has great progression as well, my opinion is not a popular opinion, but eh you made a valid point as well
I would never call Tidal Wave a "random beach level". The fact that it's top 1 isn't all that makes it special. It's actually an extremely unique take on the Nine Circles trend, and if it were nowhere near as hard as it actually is, I would go out of my way to play and probably beat it.
I completely agree with you. The theme and song is great, but that's about it. It's yet another Top 1 heavily reliant on wave gameplay, and it's getting old.
Omg. I don't know how many times somebody has to announce this to everybody: *Tidal wave was meant to be a top 1.* Everybody just watched Niero's video and assumed that he was right. He really wasn't. Now, you might be thinking, "Well actually the creator said so too..." But that can be shut down by the fact that he hasn't beat levels this hard. Zoink has barely buffed the level, and he even refused to fix hitboxes when people told him to on stream. Also, the GP has been confirmed to be fun, which basically beats every top one in like 5 years.
The creators and playtesters had confirmed in the comments already, but yes this is somewhat true
IN MY OPINION ALL TOP 1 S DONT NEED TO BE HELL THEMED AND THE CONCEPT OF TIDAL WAVE FEELS MORE ´´SPECIAL´´
search up Amethyst, it's infinitely better as a top 1
Somethings seems off in this level, calm beach background with excess of glowy flashy spikes personally doen't look like a good combination, it's like a 1.9 hard level being bad re-decorated