MOYA EP 31 | GOGO AUBREY MATSHIQI PT2 | ELEPHANT | SPIRIT | LGBTQI | ANCESTORS | HUMAN EVOLUTION
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- čas přidán 15. 03. 2024
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In this episode, we sit down with GOGO AUBREY MATSHIQI.
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Free ourselves from the known !!! What an emancipating declaration ❤️
These things Gogo Matshiqi is discussing here are very very deep. Coming from a place of religious brainwashing, it's next to impossible to comprehend these things. But we live, we learn, and we grow.
At least he had a disclaimer in the beginning of his talk - saying he's only seeing an ear of an elephant. I don't agree with some of the things he's saying. The issue about words not being what they describe is misleading. Of course a rock doesn't know that we call it a rock. But when we name something the word we use represent that thing. We name and describe what we mean by that word. Otherwise get rid of language. There's just too many things
@@user-er9eg8tm5e He always says that, that words are not what they describe. I'm yet to make up my mind about it.
Language is very important, you're right about that
Exactly 💯 💯
"He who refuses to guide his Ancestor (out of ignorance) can be forgiven... he who is aware, that one of his jobs is to guide his ancestors , (but chose not to) can not be forgiven"... people need to start believing this notion, our Ancestors indeed need our help, some messed up knowingly, some were blind sided. The arrogance they show can't be accepted, they need to move and allow us to fix their errors. The freedom is with those who exist now, not those who have depated. Ntate Aubrey Matshiqi, I salute you.
The perspectives mentioned originate from the interpretation of foreign spiritual texts and the intellectualisation of spirituality. It is pertinent to acknowledge that the imperative for atonement applies solely to ancestors who engaged in reprehensible deeds, rather than a blanket condemnation of all forebears. Certain ancestors exemplify spiritual excellence, transcending conventional ancestry to attain higher spiritual realms. As Africans, there exists a necessity to rediscover our genuine African spiritual heritage, freeing ourselves from the influence of Judeo-Christian and Asian spiritual ideologies that may distort our indigenous wisdom.
OGogo reminds me of Credo Mutwa especially his influence on how we must be diversified and limitless, pleasant episode ❤big up to this podcast
Another voice from the universe itself ❤️
Golden gems indeed. " You take your character traits to the spirit realm when you pass on " injalo nje👌🤞
They are going to suppress this episode because it's enlightening❤
He's opening my 3rd eye more.🎉
Mamiya you are spoiling us ntombi😃 ❤
You deserve it 😍☺️
Thank you for his knowledge 🙏 as he said, the elephant is a completion of all the anatomical structure. I appreciate his knowledge of the eye of the elephant.
We still need others to expand on other parts of the elephant. Also those who can explain on the internal organs/parts of the elephant. As it seems according to Ntate Aubrey, as a collective, we have become accustom to explaining spirit/spirituality from a myopic point of view of the physical mainly...given his example ya the elephant 🐘 having different parts to it.
Hopefully the Gods will also send us those who can teach us about internal mechanism that operates the elephant, visa vie our spirituality.
I also have a serious concern when Healers mentions the narrative of badimo ba babe, dark ancestors. In Setswana and even Nguni, the word Badimo is a derivation of Ba ga Modimo/Badimo...therefore if our main aim is to reach Modimo/Godself..then for Ba ga Modimo to be the opposite of Godliness, leaves me confused all the time.
Ka Setswana, even in the bible we are told about Medimo e mebe. Not Badimo ba babe. The bible translations being Medimo ya Seseto, not Badimo ba seseto.
I agree with less evolved spirit, eseng badimo kana idlozi elebe.
Nguni word idlozi, is derived from the word Morodzwi/Mlozi..Highly ascended spirits.
Thus i become consfused with what we refere to as badimo ba babe.
As we know that english is a mixture of languages and also one word can be taken from two or more words. The origins of the ancestor, is rooted in two latin words ie. ANTE &CEDERE meaning before&go. Then followed by the French language one, Antecessor.
Where does it talk about evolution of the journey of spirit?
If we want to get it close to right Mme, we must stick to explain izinto zomoya with our languages, because it helps us interregate further how the words came about or the meaning behind them.
Again Ntate Aubrey says , when we name a thing/spirit we lessen its being or value thereof, right? Then uses the name/word Umveliqangi to refer to God...even just by naming God, God, arent we lessening Him/Her/It MaMazwai?
These are questions i would appreciate Ntate to expand on please.
I thank you for bringing him to teach and share his knowledge with us...also his CALM spirit. That is what we need from Healers.
Ra leboga Mme Mazwai
"The presence of darkness, is evidence of light" 😮🔥🔥🔥🔥, what a way to close!
Theere was never a time when your spirit was never alive. 💯
Wow....what an eye opener.....Big Up to Moya❤
You call him gogo again 😂 but u were told these no gogo or mkhulu
ngiyamuza Umkhuku, But please invite IMBONI UZWI-LEZWE RADEBE From THE REVELATION SPIRITUAL HOME To dwell deep on African Spirituality.
Siyabonga MaMiya. I have learnt a lot from this channel these past few months❤❤
Pure Wisdom here ...cool, calm, collected and concise
❤❤❤when Gogo Matshiqi say "MaMiya" I felt it❤❤❤
Did uGogo just translate my thoughts into words! Yeyam le iPodcast
I am also glad that we are discussing the healing of our own Ancestors. In our smallanyana spaces, we speak a bit about this
The fact that we know nothing and we will never do it's the only thing that keeps life going...we can "assume" and "think" we know but we will never just like everything else, the only difference between us and everything else is we are curious and concerned not because we confused or what but only because it's creator's plan.we will never know...even slim understanding we will never but only thought in the minds
I'm at the 33rd minute of this and uGogo Aubrey has spoken so much sense! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I hear a lot of Krishnamurti in Gogo's wisdom there at the beginning. DOPE conversation nonetheless 🔥
Which is a cardinal sign that he's read a lot of foreign material thus clouding his indigenous outlook
@@m.-io6odvery observant
@@m.-io6odbut remember that nothing is foreign to us as Africans...
Even though life began in Africa it evolved differently, thus foreign hence foreign practices have always failed Africans and never benefited them
Please contact me I like your acute awareness to us. That jude.makaita at that g box.
Reflective, scholarly and Openly beautiful Conversation. PT3 - it would be interesting to hear how either/or/and Prof Sesanti, Dr Mndende, Prof Ramose, (Rev)Dr Vilakati, Rev Molo, and many others of difference would respond
Mamiya..... 😂Am blown away by this Rich knowledge.... 👌🏾❤We need a part three🙏🏾
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Yes please ♥️🙏🏿😂
Greetings Moya & the Elder Gogo! Great to be in ur presence. Watching from the caribbean islands of St Kitts &Nevis 🇰🇳🇰🇳🙏🙏🙏. I have a question. R we not spirits first before becoming flesh? Our first Devine feminine Devine masculine who descended from cosmology on this planet, who unite in love harmony to made the manifestation of flesh. As to the word GOD, the linguistics spoken then was not this weak English spell casting language ( ancient Africa/ Egypt). I'll leave it there for now.
Experience will make you know what you believe you think you are(we achieve self-awareness by experiencing the journey of spiritual path)
This interview and the comments have made me realise that as Africans we are not looking for truth. We are looking for our own exclusionist spirituality/religion. We are not ready for the truth.
Wise man.... Very wise
Gogo🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
👏🏽 In all things seek the deeper meaning, to understand is to comprehend whatever you have been taught, however to overstand is to experience whatever you have been taught.
Thank you so much Ntsiki for this long needed confirmation and affirmation of knowledge through Spirit Mashiqi. Kudala ngiyikhuluma and have always been misunderstood. The problem we find ourselves hurt by others words, is the labels and definitions created by someone and mina I wasn't there so I don't even know what they were going through! #My Identity, My Truth - Deal with it!
You know the class session is lit when the chest burns a little.😩
We’re so thankful for the the knew knowledge in this physical path of self realisation.
Its such a deep journey man, trying to balance the physical and spiritual. uTata spoke a lot about about being too attached to the known, are we supposed to be ignore the physical experience? why are we even here?😩
Eyi
We give Thanks for the knowledge.
Wow, we must not idealize badimo. I love this so much, profound
Thank you for bringing him back Ntsiki 🤗 I enjoyed the last offering and I will certainly enjoy this one as well.
Profound....
Oh this was beautiful Gogo, loved every second❤ so refreshing, thank you.
Love your mind and spirit Gogo Aubrey Matshiqi, thank you sis Ntsiki
Love this
The beast is here!!
Thank you so much it very deep
Ijo, this is very deep. I'm learning a lot......
Powerful
True our people young and old BATHWELE even family members are doing that..the Wrath of Amothongo is here ..all is coming out now.
Ndiyabulelaa mntase , Bawo Mashiqi,Yingwevu ,Ekhaliphileyo ,Yawabulela Amakhuma ,noo Bhungane ,ngondinika ithubaa ndingene to your channel❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Best guest yet. ✨
Enkosi my Mamiya for bringing uBaba for part 2
This was beautiful and also thought provoking
Please please invite Ntate Mathole Motshega 🙏🏿🙏🏿
Dis was diving deep into our subconscious mind 😊
Ntsiki!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
What is izinyanya? Can someone pls explain.🙏
@@lehlohonolomogadime6161It's badimo, ancestors, spirit beings or guides. 🙏
@@mkhululiaaron722 🙏🙏🙏
Yoh. I definitely needed this episode today and in this season. Siyabonga kakhulu.
When he mentioned treating ancestors as they are and aiding them in finding peace in the beyond, it sparked a question in my mind about the concept of a calling-the calling from our ancestors. His words resonated with truth @MOYA, when do you plan on hosting guests from outside South Africa?
I’m ready…..anytime they reach outb
Crystal clear!!! You’ve shed some brilliance and I hope we keep on these teachings
Very Profound
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Thank you once again from Sbuwise 🙏🏾 Makwande
Wow Gogo Aubrey 🙌 thank you Ntsiki👏👏
Excellent , thought provoking conversation ❤. Camagu MamMiya 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Very enlightening and very deep 😊😊
I love u Gogo. Thank you Ntsiki❤❤
Siyabulela ngo part 2👏🏾
It was too short🥹
Mhmmmm haiii shem ...Gogo Aubrey...I don't know ...He lost me a couple of times ... I don't know mani..I'm also getting a hint of wanting to be " politically correct " ...Thank you maMiya for the episode❤
True
Only God has the wisdom
Camagu umoya uryt❤
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Ho na Le sefela se reng!!Bophelo ke Wena fela,empa batho ha ba tsebe!!!
If we are not African n therefore not South African or any other ethnicities we thought we were, because these are all social constructs, what/who are we?
We are extensions of the creator that are, at the moment, experiencing a human existence
His impersonal approach is influenced by Asian philosophy which risks further erosion of our indegionous worldview
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Tru attachment are not good.... mara im ntsiki guru....obri how do i unlearn 😂❤
The word stone is not a stone, the same as the map is not the territory 🙏🏾
Even some people starting narcotics because a certain Mkhulu "wants" it. Heal iKhehla!
Can someone smart tell Us Gore Nare Ntate Matshiqi saying homosexual!Ty ohkay to adopt as a sexual orientation?
can it be tomorrow already please?
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You are lost Aubrey
Eh
Mmmmmm😏
What is isinyanya?
Your supports from Unpopular Opinion are now coming home ❤
Finally!!!!
I don't know if it's on my side or what but after the intro ... The audio just goes silent
Apologies
MaMiya, how do we contact Gogo Aubrey?
I'm always seen as uncaring because I don't ATTACH myself to anything. For once someone knows this!
Thuto
am very confused is Gogo, is he trying to insinuate, that homosexuality is natural? If the spirit has no gender, is it the same for the physical realm? 😭😭 I do NOT agree. Just asking I am open to hearing an opinion different from mine🤦🏾♀️
Gender is a social construct
Fundamental problem with Western scholarship, it has its ways of defining gender and as Africans we have our ways of defining gender
I'm sorry what is gurru
The audio is so low and poor
Yes. My sincere apologies.
Being African is an experience therefore an identity not construct I don't agree Baba Aubrey
Yes, it's an experience that is, usually, communicated/expressed through concepts/ideas (words) which then becomes a construct because the African experience is subjective and not objective and this is the same for identity. The idea of blackness is different/subjective for everyone and there's no objective idea of being black.🙏
That's a danger of being an expert in one area (which is politics for him) and now that he's a sangoma assumes he's a cultural expert hence misleading us
@@m.-io6od I hear you, Elder, however, is this about the messenger and not the message? And I can understand your statement and you are entitled to feel the way you do.
@mkhululiaaron722 The efficacy of a message is inherently tied to the qualifications of its messenger; therefore, it is imperative that the messenger possesses the requisite expertise to convey a substantive message. Disregarding the practical experience and depth of knowledge of the messenger, as well as failing to critically evaluate the validity of the message, would be remiss. Hence, a critical approach is essential. It's worth noting that some of us are well-versed in the subject matter of indigenous spirituality, affording us a credible position to scrutinise and engage with the various elements of the message instead of merely accepting the message at face value.
@@m.-io6od Thank you for sharing your point of view and thoughts on this! I hear you loud and clear, Elder. I've learnt a lot from your point of view! I wish you all the best on your journey. Camagu. Thokoza. Kganya. Lesedi 🙏❤
Eish what's wrong with the sound
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No one is your guru and you aren’t a guru to yourself. Stop idealizing ancestors 🤞🏽
Ancestors are to be honoured. Where is your sense of honour?
@@Empressivegoalshe’s crazy that one
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Gogo is now phylosophising. Now you want us not to know our self's. He is misleading.
Yes, and we dont need philosophy, we have to be practical about the plight of Africans, the reality!
He is right. Our attachment to things and people keeps us unaware of our great potential. We might even say attachment is a fancy name for spiritual slavery😢
I would like to align myself with you to a certain extend. Thank you @cynthiaNcwane
He's misleading our people with Eurocentric ideas, he's dangerous particularly to younger African audiences seeking the truth and authentic African spirituality
My problem with ugogo is gross oversimplification and philosophising. He sounds like he's trying to sound current and inclusive at the expense of our spirituality and customs