Refurbishing my favourite Apple device.

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  • čas přidán 29. 03. 2024
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Komentáře • 371

  • @montaguebarnabasltd
    @montaguebarnabasltd  Před 4 měsíci +37

    WOYS Discord!
    Really excited to talk about Macs, upgrades, accessories and repairs with you guys.
    Hop in and tell me about your Mac setup…
    discord.gg/ZMpSk875qN

    • @MarcosRodriguez1
      @MarcosRodriguez1 Před 3 měsíci

      Aaaaá

    • @So_It_Goes_
      @So_It_Goes_ Před 2 měsíci

      Just an FYI, you can remove those scratches from the transparent case. Apparently headlight scratch remover does a great job on things like this.

    • @montaguebarnabasltd
      @montaguebarnabasltd  Před 2 měsíci

      @@So_It_Goes_ could be really useful. Thanks.

  • @kappaklaus2671
    @kappaklaus2671 Před 4 měsíci +1066

    Practical, long lasting and easy to repair? Words that no one would use to describe Apple products today unfortunately

    • @nataliealliepage7155
      @nataliealliepage7155 Před 4 měsíci +28

      It wasn't too long ago in the grand scheme of things that MacBook Pros had convenient doors on the back for replacing the RAM, HDD, and battery. Now, many models have batteries glued into the case, requiring other crucial components to be replaced as well as the case. It's more of a "brain transplant," really, moving the logic board and monitor into a new case furnished with the battery, keyboard, speakers, mics, and more.
      The 2023 models are just marginally better for having serviceable batteries... that can't be removed without voiding your warranty.
      Don't get me started on the Mac Studio - a powerful series of beasts to have the most dangerous part of a computer (its power supply) be the first thing exposed after opening, and requiring a repairperson to also move delicate cables just to eventually change the clock battery.
      Then there's Apple not only disabling third-party display repairs but also adding fuzzy lines to look like a faulty repair, practically insulting the competence of a DIY or hobbyist repair job that would have worked

    • @brightboxstudio
      @brightboxstudio Před 3 měsíci

      That is probably too pessimistic a view. The Apple Silicon Macs are practical and long-lasting, and my previous iPhone lasted over 6 years and still worked fine when I replaced it. The M1 MacBook Air has been a solid laptop that remained competitive with PC laptops in its price range until Apple finally stopped selling it this year…Apple sold it new for four years, much longer than most Macs ever made, because that’s how well it worked for people, and many owners still love theirs despite never opening them up.
      Yes, I used to own the PowerBook G3 with its two modular bays (for batteries, drives…) and the removable keyboard so that you could get at the RAM, hard drive, and more. The price for that? It was a beast with poor structural integrity that made creaking noises when carried, and developed a problem where when I picked it up, sometimes it would just die because an electrical contact would come loose somewhere inside.
      I replaced that PowerBook after 3 years. My current M1 Pro MacBook Pro will be three years old this year, and I see no need to upgrade or replace it, so it is going to stay in daily service longer than my “modular, upgradable” PowerBook G3. It still feels new as it plows through work, feels solid, and it is the best Mac I have bought since my first one 25 years ago. My current Mac is overall a much more satisfying computer, even without being upgradeable, and I prefer it to what some call the “good old days.”
      I might agree with you if you were talking about the last generation of Intel Macs. I have one of those MacBook Pros, and it might be the worst Mac I ever owned.

    • @ENNEN420
      @ENNEN420 Před 3 měsíci +9

      Worst part is if you actually look back it's been nearly 20 years since they shifted to the "shakedown and imprison" business model. Not surprising coming from a CEO who hired a private force of police impersonators to intimidate not only their own employees but also the general public into behaving how they want them to, but still sucks.

    • @PerfectPilot
      @PerfectPilot Před 3 měsíci +19

      Well practical and long lasting, yes, but easy to repair? Hell no.

    • @jearlblah5169
      @jearlblah5169 Před 3 měsíci +25

      What are you talking about??? My last iPhone lasted half a decade before I replaced it, and honestly i didn’t even need to replace it, I just wanted something a bit faster and a better camera. I only had like 2 issues with it, and those were all solved by just restarting it.
      That’s 1826 days of flawless operation with no maintenance. If you had a car which went half a decade without a penny of maintenance you would consider that a reliable car would you not?

  • @whophd
    @whophd Před 4 měsíci +279

    Lived through this era … it’s the biscuit collector model

    • @atomicsmith
      @atomicsmith Před 4 měsíci +12

      I called it the crumb catcher.

    • @ilyabilyalov732
      @ilyabilyalov732 Před 3 měsíci +9

      Ah yes, the turn-upside-down-and-shake-for-a-buffet

    • @zulimations
      @zulimations Před 3 měsíci +3

      i have the model that released before this one and the transparency does not make it any less noticeable... lol

    • @Caysubaru
      @Caysubaru Před 2 měsíci

      100%

  • @6lbs._onion
    @6lbs._onion Před 3 měsíci +67

    What a shame.. they used to make beautiful AND practical products

    • @sparky6757
      @sparky6757 Před 2 měsíci +7

      I don't buy anything Apple anymore myself, but what exactly makes them not practical?
      Their phones, laptops, and tablets are all simple to use, and will do most anything you throw at them with flying colors. There are cases where the competing operating systems will do something dramatically better (e.g. Windows is dramatically better at running Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart, on account of the fact that MacOS cannot launch it at all), but there are also cases where Apple's operating systems do something dramatically better than the competition (battery life per MaH is industry-leading).
      I now prefer Windows and Android, for a variety of reasons. But the cheapest iPhone from 2018 was doing everything I needed a phone to do in 2023, and the reason I decided I wanted a new phone was not because I had a critical need that wasn't filling but because I felt like treating myself to trying something new, and Samsung's folds looked cool (they are cool).

    • @6lbs._onion
      @6lbs._onion Před 2 měsíci

      @@sparky6757
      I often judge practicality by the products/services' price tags, compare to the value that they offer.
      And ESPECIALLY their longevity. If I were to set aside a kidney for something, I'd be well damn expected it to last a life-time or two.
      There is more than enough content around to tell you that they're not worth it.

    • @simplexone6686
      @simplexone6686 Před měsícem

      Dun dum 😂

    • @CrowdContr0l
      @CrowdContr0l Před měsícem

      The problem is that many users today think they are very technical but in fact, are not, so they don’t see the practicality in products which are not directly related to TikTok videos of cartoon porn. I’d love to hear how a smartphone or watch or set top video streaming device or tablet or laptops or desktops are “not practical”.
      Literally every large tech company is using mainly Apple machines to build trillion dollar companies, but somehow random dorks on CZcams know better. 🙄

  • @SamFigueroa
    @SamFigueroa Před 4 měsíci +138

    I've modded 2 of these in the past with LEDs. I uses the 5 V from the USB port to power a LED on the left and the right poking out through the "motherboard housing" part. I just melted little holes in with a soldering iron to poke the heads of the LEDs through. Gives it a subtle underglow through the clear plastic.

    • @montaguebarnabasltd
      @montaguebarnabasltd  Před 4 měsíci +23

      That is super super cool. If you make/made any videos be sure to send a link!

    • @rstRichard
      @rstRichard Před 4 měsíci

      @SamFigueroa bro du bist ein macher, gerade auf deinem channel nachgeschaut und dann hat mich deine webseite angelacht und du machst einfach alles ngl crazy was du alles anstellst bei gott

    • @howard3274
      @howard3274 Před 2 měsíci

      I remember doing the same as a kid with a couple of red LEDs. Probably not adding LEDs to any new keyboards 😂

    • @Crazyates11
      @Crazyates11 Před 2 měsíci +1

      These things actually sound/feel a lot better if you put thin coat of 205g0 lab on the key cap stems/slides. I also put some foam in the bottom case and replaced the cable with a USB-C braided one, and it’s so much better and able to be used with a modern computer.

    • @arfpro
      @arfpro Před 16 dny

      Any change 2 replace the old batteries-compartment with AA-batteries into an upgrade with an USB-C charging battery??

  • @timfireblade
    @timfireblade Před 4 měsíci +82

    I loved mine until I accidentally managed to pour a cup of coffee into it. The coffee (with sugar in) then managed to eat through one of the membrane traces and wiped out half the cursor keys and the num pad. I may have been able to fix the traces with conductive paint that I had for shielding an electric guitar cavity, but didn't think of that at the time.

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 Před 3 měsíci

      Really you'd want to fix traces with enameled copper wire anyways

    • @stuaxo
      @stuaxo Před 3 měsíci +1

      Spilt red wine in my friends one, had no idea it was fixable so bought him another.

    • @FairchlldMusic1
      @FairchlldMusic1 Před 2 měsíci

      Should have thrown it in the dishwasher (no soap), and it would have probably been fine

    • @timfireblade
      @timfireblade Před měsícem

      Thanks for the suggestions, no you can’t solder to a plastic membrane. A dishwasher won’t fix tracks that have been eaten away. I did use the conductive paint to fix an old Casio calculator membrane that had been damaged by leaking batteries. Also white vinegar or an acidic bathroom cleaner like Cillit Bang is great for cleaning battery compartments and contacts if alkaline batteries leak. Just don’t put it anywhere near the circuit board.

    • @JoBot__
      @JoBot__ Před měsícem +1

      I found a 20-year-old PS/2 keyboard in a dumpster once. It had a massive coffee stain on it, but after re-aligning one pin on it and cleaning it up, it worked perfectly.

  • @01Naaman
    @01Naaman Před 4 měsíci +38

    Whenever I'm putting a keyboard like that back together I normally add a dab of silicone grease there the springs click back in.
    I've also found the best way to clean the keys is put them in a large protein powder shaker with warm water and a drop of detergent, find a bottle brush that fits in the hole and go to town with your best...erm... churning action. It's not perfect but will get you 90% of the way.

    • @montaguebarnabasltd
      @montaguebarnabasltd  Před 4 měsíci

      I especially appreciate the grease tip. Will probably be going back and doing that. Thanks

  • @jeffrub1
    @jeffrub1 Před 3 měsíci +37

    This keyboard is actually my daily driver on my main PC. I also use one when working on customer's computers. I keep a wireless mouse dongle inserted so I just plug in 1 cable and have my keyboard and mouse ready to go.

    • @Henderson101
      @Henderson101 Před 3 měsíci

      Came today much the same.

    • @kuchenblechmafiagmbh1381
      @kuchenblechmafiagmbh1381 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Apple actually intended these USB ports for the mouse, the iMac G3's keyboard (and also the A1243 slim Aluminium keyboard) had a usb port on the left and right end and the mouse cable was purposefully short so you could also place the mouse on the left side of your keyboard.

    • @AndyK.1
      @AndyK.1 Před 3 měsíci

      Do the volume up, down and mute work on a PC?

    • @Henderson101
      @Henderson101 Před 3 měsíci

      @@kuchenblechmafiagmbh1381 yeah this mimics the ADB mouse and keyboard arrangement.

    • @jeffrub1
      @jeffrub1 Před 3 měsíci

      @@AndyK.1 yes

  • @DrBovdin
    @DrBovdin Před 3 měsíci +8

    Using one of these daily. I was also surprised of how easily I could fully dismantle and clean it the first time I did so. I also once managed to pour half a glass of wine in it, but after a thorough clean, more or less full wet cleaning with a finishing round of IPA, it still works perfectly. I had to dismantle it even further and fully clean the membrane and contacts, but even that was fully doable, albeit time consuming and fiddly.
    I have spent many years in various countries and the one thing I have always brought with me is a USB keyboard with my preferred layout. This model is one the ones that have traveled with me more than most keyboards not attached to a laptop 😉
    (I used to have an old Sun keyboard that went missing, I liked that one as well.)

  • @transitengineer
    @transitengineer Před měsícem +1

    Thank you, for this step-by-step guide on cleaning your vintage "glossy white" wired Apple USB Keyboard. My first came with my "glossy white" 20-inch G5 iMac and, I feel right in love with this Keyboard. Currently, I have three working units: one is very junky looking used with my primary desktop a "space gray" trash can size Mac Pro, the second is fair looking used on my vintage 20-inch G5 iMac, and the third one that looks brand new which, I keep in its box. In addition, I also have this Keyboard's wireless Blue-tooth twin which, is always a lot of fun to use (smile...smile).

  • @robotomo4249
    @robotomo4249 Před 4 měsíci +30

    Such a beautiful keyboard! I absolutely adore the late 90s to early 2010s Apple design language. We have one of these keyboards in our house collecting dust. I would use it, however the keys seem to be a bit inconsistent with the amount of pressure being needed to push the key down (some are just way too hard) and when you press the edge of most keys, they either don't push down at all or require a ridiculous amount of force to do so.

    • @montaguebarnabasltd
      @montaguebarnabasltd  Před 4 měsíci +7

      Me too!
      You’ve described that very accurately. Cleaning the board does help a fair bit, though.

    • @robotomo4249
      @robotomo4249 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@montaguebarnabasltd I've been hesitant to do so as it might not change anything, but I'll definitely be trying it out after your video!

    • @vadnegru
      @vadnegru Před měsícem

      Had same thing with just regular PC media keyboard. It was very nasty inside, something sticky was spilled all over it.

  • @FIRAGA
    @FIRAGA Před 4 měsíci +11

    We had similar keyboards when I was in high school in the graphics design room, we had both white ones like the one in the video as well as ones with black keys. I hated typing on them so much, keys randomly got stuck and didn’t register key pressed half the time.

    • @montaguebarnabasltd
      @montaguebarnabasltd  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Nah they’re not the most pleasant to type on, but if you look after em these are invincible and do the job fine :)

    • @FIRAGA
      @FIRAGA Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@montaguebarnabasltd these were at a high school, so saying they’ve been abused would be an understatement haha ^^

  • @malk6277
    @malk6277 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Nice one. I have a different Mac Pro keyboard from 2008. Still going strong and I don't expect it to break anytime soon.

  • @thesuperknot_
    @thesuperknot_ Před 4 měsíci +10

    Puttin’ on the ritz.

    • @Orincaby
      @Orincaby Před 4 měsíci +1

      “spangled gowns upon the bevy of high browns from down the levy; all misfits”

  • @gockelxxxxxl9584
    @gockelxxxxxl9584 Před 4 měsíci +5

    I‘m currently using this keyboard for my pc because my mechanical keyboard broke after 10 years. It’s not as good as a mechanical keyboard but it does what it’s supposed to do, I only have to clean it

    • @protocetid
      @protocetid Před 4 měsíci +1

      Apple used to make some incredible keyboards that put all their modern ones to shame. They came with Alps mechanical switches, they are considered superior to Cherry MX and their clones in many regards. The mechanical keyboard aficionados who know about them tend to have them as one of their favorites and would give a kidney to have Alps come back. Alps switches’ major weakness is dust, they are worse than other designs at keeping it away and not letting it interfere with switch operation.

  • @Squalius-cephalus
    @Squalius-cephalus Před 4 měsíci +4

    Old membrane keyboards, such as the Lenovo Preferred Pro II, sometimes used lubricant in the stabilizers and keys. I once gave one lenovo keyboard a thorough cleaning, but it became unusable when all the old lubes went away :D
    It's worth at least relubricating the stabilisers, dielectric grease works fine. But for anything else, thinner lube is must.

  • @yesterdaysjam2405
    @yesterdaysjam2405 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I have two of these. Love the USB pass-through for my mouse lol.

  • @Froezone
    @Froezone Před 2 měsíci

    my grandpa has this keyboard at his desk, it just brings back nostalgia of being young in his home and him working in the office and hearing him clack away

  • @JoBot__
    @JoBot__ Před měsícem

    I found a 20-year-old PS/2 keyboard from AOpen in a dumpster last year. It has a massive coffee stain on it, but after re-aligning one pin on its connector and cleaning it up, it works perfectly. It's currently one of my best keyboards, in fact. I have two keyboards that are a decade and a half newer than it and they're already falling apart from age.
    They just don't make things like they used to, I guess.

  • @MrCooper83
    @MrCooper83 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I recently cleaned mine. I didnt go that deep as mine was much cleaner. I dont use it anymore but it looks pretty good.. It looks great with my G5 iMac

  • @y87_99Firebird
    @y87_99Firebird Před měsícem

    Yeah I would definitely find a way to backlight it. Just a nice yellow/white light would make that look really classy.

  • @therealmeachy71
    @therealmeachy71 Před 2 měsíci

    I still daily drive a 2009 3rd Gen iPod Touch as an mp3, audiobook, and podcast player. Battery lasts for hours. The only reason I don't use the other apps is because I can't.

  • @daan3298
    @daan3298 Před měsícem

    I loved that keyboard, but it didn't last. I got maybe 7 years on it, then it broke, some keys weren't working anymore and it had to be replaced. Replaced it with the then just new wireless "magic" keyboard, which now has a crooked Q key but still works to this day, battery is fine too. Waiting till it fully breaks to get the new actually magic keyboard, the one with the fingerprint scanner on it, as that would be actually magic to no longer manually enter passwords all the time.

  • @CaptainRex332
    @CaptainRex332 Před 4 měsíci +2

    My neighbour gave me a older apple keyboard it’s the model that has the trans dark blue caps and the usb port on either side and I cleaned it all except for the bottom since I don’t have the right screw bit

  • @XPimKossibleX
    @XPimKossibleX Před 3 měsíci +1

    _That font is _*_godly_*

  • @robsquared2
    @robsquared2 Před 3 měsíci

    I'm waiting for a future apple keyboard where it won't actuate non-certified apple keycaps.

    • @montaguebarnabasltd
      @montaguebarnabasltd  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Bold of you to assume they’ll release another one with removable keycaps

  • @LyuboA
    @LyuboA Před 4 měsíci +1

    i'm shocked how easy is to take this thing apart and that it's not filled with glue and anti repair tactics like every other Apple crap

  • @LungsMcGee
    @LungsMcGee Před 11 dny

    See what he did there? He used the words Apple, dismantle and repair all in the same sentence.

  • @lachlanlau
    @lachlanlau Před 3 měsíci +1

    I got one at a sunday market.. but the flex PCB was damaged by corrosion meaning many keys do not work. Would you perhaps have plans for a custom PCB?

  • @SianaGearz
    @SianaGearz Před 3 měsíci +1

    I have used a Mitsumi membrane keyboard from mid 90s for a long time. It's a bit of a pest to reassemble since the rubber actuators are not in a sheet but installed individually, and eventually the channels that support the keys got worn down making some of the more frequently used keys especially Ctrl that i often press a little off centre unpleasant to press down, the channel was no longer keeping the keycaps straight and made too much friction. Also the membrane silver print foil layers, well the conductive layer on those had worn through, but i patched it up with automotive rear window heater repair fluid. The plastic quality on the Mitsumi was quite delightful otherwise, no yellowing at all.
    As such i don't think any membrane keyboard is forever. The Mitsumi's rubber at least stayed in good shape. I have checked out some Cherry membrane keyboard which spent a few years on the shelf and the ruber layer has started hardening up. I do think eventually any silicone or TPU will break down even nicer quality and will harden or tear, it shouldn't survive 40 years.
    In most membrane keyboards, i find that the keycaps unclip easily from the back of the spillboard, you might need the right tool though.
    I think the most practical life long keyboard is mechanical. I have fished a wet G80-3000 out of a dumpster that got rained into more than 20 years ago, and it had been well used previously before it got there, the case was very yellowed, and it still works fine. It did have bad contact, but a little contact spray solved that and you can just solder out and replace individual switches if need be. Additionally PBT keycaps are tough wearing and not susceptible to say cigarette burns, i used to smoke, nor are they susceptible to acetone fumes like when you do your fingernails.
    I currently have been using a cheap Chinese mechanical TKL for the last 8 years, with occasional care it types like new, and i can rebuild and modify it in a number of ways for years to come, and it's quite heavy and stable. I really love the NKRO feature, or rather, i don't want to be using a non-NKRO keyboard any longer if i can help it. This one only has ABS keycaps, so i might replace them but they're not too terrible yet. Yeah there's a little bit of a shine but they're double shot so it's OK, it's fine for it to look used. I have seen some "fancy" keyboards which were in use for mere few months where the keycaps became really nasty as they were black painted and lasered keycaps and the clear keycap base started peeking through the worn paint layer, i don't feel this sort of wear pattern is acceptable.

    • @montaguebarnabasltd
      @montaguebarnabasltd  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thank you for a very detailed and insightful comment.
      I think in terms of consumer hardware from bigger companies like Apple, these keyboards are among the longest lasting. I reckon I can get another 10 years from this one. Haven’t been able to try a Mitsumi, but will look into those.
      There’s a good chance apple made a million or more of these. The fact that most of them aren’t still being used today is a real problem, and it’s horrible to think how much waste that’s led to. It’s nice to know they can still be used, though, which I suppose is the moral of the video’s story. Ideally more people will start to pick up the philosophy of buying things for life, and that will enact change on a bigger scale. We’ll see!

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz Před 3 měsíci

      @@montaguebarnabasltd I heard BTC membrane keyboards from the 90s still work well. These use PA slider stems to reduce friction and wear, and separate keycaps sitting on top. They don't look particularly amazing though, being BTC.
      Mitsumi keyboards have come and gone a long time ago, i haven't seen one sold since late 90s. BTC stopped making keyboards even earlier i think. Used to love Mitsumi ball mice as well in the 90s, but well i don't think i would want one right now. Not that i know what exactly i do want, i am probably making my own shape and my own charging system for the g305 whenever i get around to that. There kind of aren't high performance mice for women, and if there is one like maybe the g705, the price is outrageous! Xtrfy m4 is a shape that almost works for me but omg the price, and i don't need all the air holes.

  • @norcalcarnivores
    @norcalcarnivores Před 3 měsíci

    This is very interesting! I'm glad to know I'm not the only one... I brought mine out of storage late last year and refurbished it too. I wish I had seen your video back then!

  • @anoniem1987
    @anoniem1987 Před 2 měsíci

    I somewhat recently cleaned one I used with a server. It was way more dirty than this one, needed a lot of scrubbing. Used it for a while for my work setup. Funnily enough a Windows laptop. I stoppen using the keyboard when I got a Macbook, opting for a Logitech keyboard that was wireless. But it is a decent membrane keyboard. Very sturdy

  • @dgpsf
    @dgpsf Před 3 měsíci

    I would love to see you update this by adding an internal USB 3.0 hub - maybe a USB-C port to replace the hardwired cable, and 1x USB-C downstream port and 1x USB-A 3.0 downstream port. That would be really useful! Only tricky part would be getting the ports from the donor hub mounted correctly, but someone with 3d printing skills could probably design some brackets.

  • @martindomsa
    @martindomsa Před 4 měsíci +1

    That screw driver looks oddly familiar ;) Love the video! Makes me want to get that keyboard 😁.

    • @montaguebarnabasltd
      @montaguebarnabasltd  Před 4 měsíci

      Much appreciated x
      You can always borrow the keyboard in the vid ;)

  • @RusticRonnie
    @RusticRonnie Před měsícem

    The reason is funny because every keyboard I have ever owned still works… I think wired keyboards are just super durable.
    Even my dads old PS2 Keyboards all work on modern machines

  • @Maradnus
    @Maradnus Před 4 měsíci +2

    I loved that Keyboard.. I put mine in the dishwasher a few times to clean..
    I just had to spray some WD40 in-between the layers after each wash but I had it for years.

    • @montaguebarnabasltd
      @montaguebarnabasltd  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I’ll keep the WD-40 part in mind

    • @Maradnus
      @Maradnus Před 4 měsíci

      @@montaguebarnabasltd for in between the membrane layers.

  • @michaelbeiyt
    @michaelbeiyt Před měsícem

    I rook apart many of these for cleaning. Ingave the key caps a bath in demin water and a lab detergent called Mucasol. Then a bath in demin water and good time for drying. The caps look as new and you even get the nice slightly rough feeling back

  • @miguelgutierrezdequevedo1313

    I still use mine! I have been using it for more than 20 years! Now with my M1 Macbook Pro

  • @xavtek
    @xavtek Před 3 měsíci

    I loved this keyboard. When I bought these second hand, I used to pop out the keys, put the keys in my dishwasher, a good vacuum of the kb tray and it was like brand new !

  • @Piineapple.
    @Piineapple. Před 3 měsíci

    This keyboard is 20 years old? It looks like it comes from the future, it is just so clean

  • @roberthonan3492
    @roberthonan3492 Před 2 měsíci

    That was probably the best keyboard I ever had. Sadly, knocking a full glass of wine into the keyboard ruins them completely. One of the things I always liked about the Mac design philosophy that Jobs always demanded was minimizing cabling, and the Mac Cube was amazing in it's era. You had the Cube itself which had a power cable, and then phone or Ethernet connections, and a place to plug that amazing sound system into. Then their was one cable to the monitor for everything. The keyboard had one cable to the monitor, and the mouse into the keyboard.

  • @trashviewer3521
    @trashviewer3521 Před 2 měsíci

    Yeah, it's does look easier to disassemble than a lot of modern keyboard. But it's still a membrane keyboard, and you pulling out the keys by hand instead of pushing it from below with a pinch will degrade at least the horizontal stabilization due to the clips becoming loose or snapping altogether at some point. Also the rubber domes degrade after time depending on your usage. For example gamers can wear out wasd in 3-5 years.
    For keyboard to actually serve for ages it needs to be a mechanical one with some sturdy plastic keycaps (pbt doubleshot for example).

  • @oddball_the_blue
    @oddball_the_blue Před měsícem

    Mine got dripped on by an aircon unit at work and corroded the traces down the left side. Sad times all round.
    Until a contractor bought the bluetooth version in a shockingly poor state. Which I then bought off him and swapped the keys/backboard over (because they used the same keys but not the same traces for... reasons).

  • @bardz0sz
    @bardz0sz Před 2 měsíci

    I’m still using the flat cable one, I think the next model over, it’s ages old and works perfectly fine

  • @EzraelNi
    @EzraelNi Před 3 měsíci

    I used to have this keyboard when I was younger, that lasted through many gaming sessions and ragings. :)

  • @didair
    @didair Před měsícem

    My school had these keyboards and i remember them as REALLY good

  • @xSferQx
    @xSferQx Před 14 dny

    Meanwhile automotive industry convincing people you should buy $60k car every three years

  • @MartinE63
    @MartinE63 Před 2 měsíci

    I’m still regularly using an IBM model M keyboard that originally came with an IBM PS/2. On the underside is a label showing the date it was produced in late 1987. Built to last, in Scotland.

  • @lanlinked
    @lanlinked Před 2 měsíci

    It's impressive how white the keys still are

  • @Amadeus2231
    @Amadeus2231 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Apple used to make some actually good products. I've taken apart and modded several ipods and its incredible how well they are made

  • @greensheen8759
    @greensheen8759 Před 2 měsíci

    These are my all time favorite apple keyboard. Really solid feel and takes up minimal desk space

  • @cashewmilkfan
    @cashewmilkfan Před 3 měsíci

    its just a regular rubber dome keyboard that fills with dust and turns yellow quickly. some of apples older keyboards are even easier to take apart and service as well.

  • @NeroTheIncredible
    @NeroTheIncredible Před 2 měsíci

    I bought one of these for cheap last year, because...I like a real beefy keyboards and it reminds me of my first 486DX50 PC .Nostalgia and effectiveness !

  • @The-Weekend-Warrior
    @The-Weekend-Warrior Před 4 měsíci +2

    I've got both the wired and the wireless version on this keyboard and love typing on it. If only it could be somehow converted to a mechanical keyboard with backlight... if there was a conversion kit available that would retain the aesthetics, I would be buying that for sure.

    • @montaguebarnabasltd
      @montaguebarnabasltd  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Absolutely. I’ll be looking into that

    • @DaAvengerMenace4
      @DaAvengerMenace4 Před měsícem

      how do you connect the wireless keyboard? I've tried many times, to no avail..

    • @The-Weekend-Warrior
      @The-Weekend-Warrior Před měsícem

      @@DaAvengerMenace4 What you mean how I connect? Via bluetooth. MacOS X automatically detects it.

  • @larrs8887
    @larrs8887 Před měsícem

    Current Apple keyboard, bin it when the battery fails, or worse expands and bulges to the point it warps the plastic case, which you can’t remove without damaging the keyboard….Yes seen this happen.

  • @NobodyYouKnow01
    @NobodyYouKnow01 Před měsícem

    Someone should make an all-black mod for this.

  • @haydentuttle9870
    @haydentuttle9870 Před 3 měsíci

    The strain relief....

  • @LakotaNativedoll
    @LakotaNativedoll Před 4 měsíci

    i like using the keyboard that came with the first pc i ever touched, it still works to this day and feels amazing

  • @Mr.Stripes
    @Mr.Stripes Před 3 dny

    Yeah, old Macs were so easy to open up & repair, my father's 2013 MacBook Air is quite easy to open

  • @noachav
    @noachav Před 2 měsíci

    I'm quite partial to the M7803 keyboard and once cleaned one of that model which had belonged to the late author, Michael Palmer, following The 8-Bit Guy's retrobright method

  • @perfectionbox
    @perfectionbox Před 4 měsíci

    I still sometimes have dreams I'm using my Apple Extended Keyboard II from 1995. In a recent dream I even married it, the ceremony was great.

  • @alangeorgebarstow
    @alangeorgebarstow Před 4 měsíci

    I threw a similar Apple keyboard away, a few years ago, because one of the keys stopped functioning. If I had realised that it could have been repaired then I would have kept it.

  • @TPLS2
    @TPLS2 Před 3 měsíci

    I can attest these things strength and durability. We got these in my second grade year and when I went back to visit in 2018 nearly ten years later they still had these. Also, many computer classes we had people would fight to use these keyboard because they were just that good.

  • @Dogappel
    @Dogappel Před 3 měsíci

    My grandma has this keyboard on her mac. It still got food under the keys from 2009 🤢

  • @adanbaldonado
    @adanbaldonado Před 17 dny

    i lost the screws(somehow) and will never be able to put it back together

  • @iansimpson6117
    @iansimpson6117 Před 2 měsíci

    Did this to the same keyboard too a while ago. Definitely an easy restore.

  • @gumbilicious1
    @gumbilicious1 Před 2 měsíci

    I restored an old 1989 ibm model m keyboard. Very satisfying to type on

  • @LambertBricks
    @LambertBricks Před 2 měsíci

    I recently got one of these for free, I fully took it apart and even cleaned the little membranes, it’s my only keyboard so I use it regularly. Also, I think the keyboard is actually kind of clacky, it’s just enough to sound good, but not too loud to be annoying.

    • @montaguebarnabasltd
      @montaguebarnabasltd  Před 2 měsíci

      I find it slightly annoying, I’ll admit. Still works for what I use it for lol

  • @divyanshbhutra5071
    @divyanshbhutra5071 Před 3 měsíci

    That LED on the caps key is neater than any keyboard today. This is the reason people loved Apple, and some still do, not realising this is not what Apple does today. 😢

  • @Enhancedlies
    @Enhancedlies Před 3 měsíci

    subbed when i heard your English accent, for some reason nearly all of the tech people I follow are Americans! So often they recommend apps/products that either don't work the same or just don't have the same use cases over the pond. So its great to see variety with a brit!

  • @Herfinnur
    @Herfinnur Před 3 měsíci

    Thank you for that tip! Just bought one online

  • @haydew22
    @haydew22 Před 3 měsíci

    i got one of these at a thrift store for 2 dollars a couple years ago and it works great

  • @mattBLACKpunk
    @mattBLACKpunk Před 3 měsíci

    Imagine putting all that work into a membrane keyboard 💀

  • @gsh0cked
    @gsh0cked Před 2 měsíci

    I’ve seen someone put an led strip in side the transparent plastic area

  • @fen0221
    @fen0221 Před měsícem

    Unfortunately it’s way too big for my. I’m still looking for a wired compact Apple keyboard. W/o the numpads you know. I found one chicklet version but those are very rare I’ve learned and somehow a entire column of keys from the 0 and - keys to the m key doesn’t work and I’ve no idea how to repair that😓

  • @glenesis
    @glenesis Před 4 měsíci +1

    My fave too. I've got some dead keys. Thanks for the inspiration! Cheers!

    • @glenesis
      @glenesis Před 4 měsíci

      Actually my very favorite is an ADB keyboard: the
      Apple Extended Keyboard ][
      But for USB this one is my fave.

    • @montaguebarnabasltd
      @montaguebarnabasltd  Před 4 měsíci

      @@glenesis I’m looking into getting an Extended Keyboard II lol. Been reading up about keyboards and I’d love to try a mechanical Apple ADB one, even if I need an adapter.

  • @Metronics
    @Metronics Před 4 měsíci

    Mine is getting a little yellow over the years. I believe tossing the key caps in Oxy-Clean will do the job.

  • @steve-852
    @steve-852 Před 4 měsíci

    Did the same thing on the exact same keyboard - but popped my keys in the dishwasher! Worked a treat :D

  • @B.D.F.
    @B.D.F. Před 4 měsíci

    Ah yes, the “Museum Of Dust” keyboard.

  • @Ajay-hb1rc
    @Ajay-hb1rc Před 3 měsíci

    Man! Your voice is super nice and soothing

  • @zreolmeannin
    @zreolmeannin Před 3 měsíci +2

    1:07 2:56, you didn’t route the cable properly on reassembly, if you yank it accidentally it might tear the wires inside

  • @alicevioleta3184
    @alicevioleta3184 Před 3 měsíci

    currently searching for this thing's predecessor, the G3 Tangerine keyboard. i adore them.

  • @gbbarn
    @gbbarn Před 3 měsíci +1

    cheap membrane keyboard made by some chinese brand:
    -It's garbage.
    cheap membrane keyboard made by some chinese brand and sold by apple:
    -Omg its wonderful, i love it.
    (reselling profit +300%)

  • @michaelmcdougall8868
    @michaelmcdougall8868 Před 3 měsíci

    Love your enthusiasm for this keyboard (in spite of it's limitations). You should check out an IBM Model M (it's gonna be more than a few quid though) if you can find one at a non-extortion price.

  • @kaioker
    @kaioker Před 3 měsíci

    i have two of these keyboards as my daily drivers at both home and at work. they are the best keyboards iv ever used

  • @marshmellow377
    @marshmellow377 Před 4 měsíci

    Get some plastic polish on the clear housing. It will come up like brand new! Did it on one I recently found as well as bleached the keycaps!

  • @jolex_nerd8132
    @jolex_nerd8132 Před 3 měsíci

    have this one! even though its membrane ,it minecraft's just fine.

  • @samuelwilson753
    @samuelwilson753 Před 3 měsíci

    If only this had hotswappable keys

  • @joecool2162
    @joecool2162 Před 3 měsíci

    HAVE ONE SOMEWHERE? MAYBE NEXT YEAR. GREAT ONE OF A KIND VIDEO^^

  • @potatosansoffical8058
    @potatosansoffical8058 Před 3 měsíci

    Idk how you would do this but put the motherboard of a Magic Keyboard and put the fingerprint reader into lint when case somewhere

  • @Siddif
    @Siddif Před měsícem

    I don't have this keyboard but I have the G4 variant but the plastic is cracked. I also have the early Intel iMac variant too. Shame they don't output enough power to reliably allow for USB drives to be plugged in but the ports are handy for the likes of mice.
    Would be cool if you could retrofit it with USB 3 and or C ports and enough power to manage that

  • @MattHalpain
    @MattHalpain Před 4 měsíci

    I purchased this keyboard at Goodwill. It was in perfect condition now after a year or so it’s getting dirty.

  • @ChinXYZ
    @ChinXYZ Před 10 dny

    Is that lovely timepiece an old Vacheron?

  • @new-lviv
    @new-lviv Před 4 měsíci +2

    Isn't any old USB keyboard as usable as this one is?

    • @montaguebarnabasltd
      @montaguebarnabasltd  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Possibly, but this one has integrations into macOS still, not to mention it’s far less ugly than most from the era. The USB ports are a huge plus, and so is the curved design.

    • @new-lviv
      @new-lviv Před 4 měsíci +1

      I have a 10 years old Logitech waterproof one. Looks ok, plastic got a bit yellowish, I wonder how it looks like in 10 years.

  • @EricMuranoAU
    @EricMuranoAU Před 4 měsíci

    I love the look of these boards

  • @soundguydon
    @soundguydon Před 4 měsíci

    Yup! That's my favorite Apple keyboard as well! As others have said, I really loved the late 90's - early 2010s design language from Apple. I would love it if they brought it back -- or at least offered it as an alternative to the flat slab keyboard they offer now (albeit with mechanical keyswitches.)

    • @montaguebarnabasltd
      @montaguebarnabasltd  Před 4 měsíci +2

      Agreed. I genuinely would love to see a mechanical rebuild of this keyboard. LEDs are another thing lol.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @NIEDx86
    @NIEDx86 Před 3 měsíci

    Did you ever had a problem when pressing on the edge of a key, its really hard to press in? If yes, how did you solve it? If no, how do you think i can solve it? It happens on mostly all keys

    • @montaguebarnabasltd
      @montaguebarnabasltd  Před 3 měsíci

      Yes!! I think it can be fixed by oiling the part of the inside of the key which has friction against the layer underneath if that makes sense.

  • @biturboism
    @biturboism Před 3 měsíci

    That was the most positive and wholesome message of the day for me. Thank you!

  • @Chris-onyt
    @Chris-onyt Před 4 měsíci

    as long it does not get a liquid spilled on it they will work till the switches fail there are keyboards form the 1980s that still work

  • @TheRealMisterProtocol
    @TheRealMisterProtocol Před 4 měsíci

    I love this keyboard -- I've gone through about five of them due to "sticky key syndrome". Does the refurbishment you show here cure that?

    • @montaguebarnabasltd
      @montaguebarnabasltd  Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks for watching!
      So far as I can tell, slightly oiling the plastic parts that have friction against each other underneath the keys can improve that.
      There’s a couple of useful comments documenting this on my video.