Yes!! Those are beautiful camera, you’re not missing out at all! :) I’ve always loved the curved viewfinder of the m3.. Theres just something about it..
I have a damn near identical twin to your camera, a black paint MP, also with the M6 ISO dial (28901XX), a 35mm Summilux Pre-Asph v2 (one of the very late German ones) with a series VII yellow filter on it and Tri-X inside, pushed to 800 (or sometimes 1600 if I’m feeling frisky). I bought it secondhand from a store that literally just got it, story was the gentleman who bought it new shot two rolls with it and put it back in the box for 20 years before he finally parted with it. I had no idea about the age or M6 ISO dial significance until afterwards! After a CLA and repair for sticky framelines, it’s been rock solid, and I’m proud to say every bit of brassing it has (not much yet) is all from me. It’s my favorite camera, my desert island kit, and hopefully an heirloom I may pass to my kids one day, if I ever have any!
Indeed you CAN buy an M-A new. The MP has been made popular by CZcams. Beautiful in black paint, no arguing that! The M-A is a newer model from 2014 that Leica makes brand new. Along with the M6 reissue. Of those three though, for its bad CZcams marketing, I think the M-A is your best option if you want something less known that is just as amazing as the other two, if not more. And you don’t need a battery.
i've lusted over the mp for years imagining i'd get one and finally early this year i pulled the trigger and got me the brand new m6. sometimes i still watch videos of silver mp unboxings but i'm happy with my black m6 now. :)
Love your video so much I also love film I turn my MA to M11 but not I am thinking about chaning back to MA or MP this is really hard choice I dont ofter use light meter but black paint on the MP is so good.
Haha! Yes come back to film! (Though I am biased… :P) If you don’t use a light meter, how about an M4 or a M2? Those are really amazing too! And if you get one in a good condition, their film advance feels amaaaaazing - arguably better than the MP! :D
Love your videos! I bought a brand new Leica MP black paint after waiting in line at 4 Leica stores for almost a year. That was after finally saving enough money to purchase it ( that took 2 years). It’s my dream camera. I love it! I take it on travels and documenting my family and daily life. I also own a Nikonos V for when we go surfing and a ricoh griiix (for quick captures and quick sharing and when I run out of film). If I had to choose 1 camera is would hands down be my MP. ❤
Thank you!! Oh wow.. I’ve heard brand new ones are hard to come by, but what a wait! Congratulations though! I’m sure it’ll serve you well for decades! Those are some awesome cameras.. I’d love to ysee your work! :)
Very nice. I have a new M6 but don't really enjoy it, because the metering red dots don't give direct Aperture and Shutter Speed information. I'm tempted to use an M2 or M4 and just meter using the Sunny 16 Rule.
I think the red/green dot meters are the only major downside to the metered Leicas, and that's been a popular opinion for decades. I think Leica missed the boat by not redesigning the meter for the recent M6 reissue.
Great video Jeremy! This was short and concise while also giving your personal feelings about the camera. This is my dream camera and I hope to get one someday. I love the way the brass looks just like yours
i love my black pain MP! it was my dream camera i just picked one up after a long wait and using an M3 for a bit. i honestly feel like i never need another camera with my current duo.
Well said! I also have serial # 2890xxx MP Black paint, do we have the “First Batch” MP? (According to serial guide & not counting the special editions) I believe our earlier serials have superior paint job compared to more modern MPs. Thank you so much for letting the World know how great the MP is. 😊
Hello Jeremy! If you had to choose, a small, bright, sharp 35 lens for the Leica MP: * Ultron, ASPH V2 or * Summicron ASPH V2? Which one would it be and why? :) Best regards?
Hello! Apologies for the slow reply, wanted to reply when I had the time to give a proper one! Oh man.. Thats a hard one... I think.. it would have to be... The Ultron ASPH v2.. Hah! The ASPH summicron is great - its good all around performer, it gives nice colors, contrast, resolution.. But.. Something about the pictures it makes doesn't separate it from other lenses... It's a "transparent" lens, that doesn't impose itself onto the picture.. But with that, it also doesn't stand out - in 10 years time, if I looked back at a picture made by it, without any EXIF or notes, I would never be able to tell you what lens it was made on. The Ultron v2 wide open does something pretty unique, and stopped down it's great. So for me, I'm always looking for a a lens to do something that complements & accentuates what I'm going for!
Hey Jeremy, how often do you find you need a rangefinder calibration on your MPs? When I got my Brand New MP in 2021, it came from the factory with a misaligned rangefinder. I got it fixed, but nearly 2 years later, I’m finding it needs another alignment (vertical this time). It mostly lives in a Billingham bag, so I just don’t understand what I’m doing to the camera, even with all the padding, that sets it off. Do you find this issue? Do you get things tuned up once a year or something?
Hey Stuart! Yes, sadly they do inevitably drift due to the nature of their design, you’re not doing anything wrong to cause it to happen! :) They function via a screw turned to a certain point, but nothing is fixed or locked down. So inevitably, as the entire mechanism moves, over time and repeat use, there will be some micro movements to that screws “calibrated” position. Eg - Say the horizontal screw set at 80 degrees is correct, but at 81 degrees infinity is off.. All that is holding it in place at 80 instead 81 degrees is merely friction, so with use, the screw will drift, though I find that after a number of years the entire system settles down more and I’ve needed less and less calibrations. When shooting large aperture lenses I find myself needing to do a slight adjustment every 6 months to a year (50mm f0.95/f1), so 2 years is quite awhile! But I’ve recently been shooting 35mm stopped down, so any lack of alignment isn’t noticeable! Even 35mm F1.4 is much more forgiving than 50 f1.4. Also, some additional information - adjusting the vertical adjustment, or the horizontal infinity position isn’t a difficult job, it takes less than 5 minutes, but it does require the right tools, and some* skill.. Adjusting the horizontal axis at a close distance (1m, 2m etc) requires a lot more work, because you’ll need to insert a ground glass into the film plane. All that said to let you know, that if you send your camera in for just a vertical adjustment alone, it shouldn’t be too expensive! If a tech wants $300 to do that, something is not right.. :) And a good way to check if a tech is doing a thorough job is to ask if they only calibrate the rangefinder at infinity, or at close distances as well - some techs say they do, but they actually only check infinity, hoping customers don’t notice that close distances being off… :( Hope this helps! :)
@@jeremy-t thank you for such a detailed response! Yes, I was beginning to think I was going crazy with noticing some changes in the vertical alignment; that being said, I’m really curious to know whether or not when I got the rangefinder recalibrated if they just did infinity alignment (for $200 CAD). I’d honestly be super interested if you made a video going over you realigning your rangefinder either vertically or horizontally on the MP, specifically, because the other videos don’t seem to address this camera specifically and apparently it’s slightly different than other Leica Ms. You can throw in as many disclaimers as you like just so you know your back is covered, but I’d love to learn how to do it myself as I am a tinkerer by nature, and feel like I could do it myself, especially since sending it away there isn’t really anyone close anymore to service it and Leica New Jersey supposedly can’t tell up from down based off forums I’ve read where their servicing is done incredibly poorly.
If you could only keep one, which would you pick between your M6 or MP? I have a M3 and considering am MP as well. Especially after watching this video 😹🦖
I hope to shoot film for many years to come 🤞 so I appreciate that the camera wears in with me and brasses very nicely. Also, the viewfinder patch clearer, especially focusing in backlight! Full video on this is in the works!
Gorgeous cameras. The black-paint MP is probably my dream Leica, but I don't think I will ever part with my M3 and M5. Nice rundown, Jeremy!
Yes!! Those are beautiful camera, you’re not missing out at all! :) I’ve always loved the curved viewfinder of the m3.. Theres just something about it..
@@MeTheDroidor Better? Not sure about that. Also great? Absolutely. I always prefer the convenience of an internal meter if available.
@@jeremy-tthere will never be a better finder than the M3's finder :(
I have a damn near identical twin to your camera, a black paint MP, also with the M6 ISO dial (28901XX), a 35mm Summilux Pre-Asph v2 (one of the very late German ones) with a series VII yellow filter on it and Tri-X inside, pushed to 800 (or sometimes 1600 if I’m feeling frisky). I bought it secondhand from a store that literally just got it, story was the gentleman who bought it new shot two rolls with it and put it back in the box for 20 years before he finally parted with it. I had no idea about the age or M6 ISO dial significance until afterwards! After a CLA and repair for sticky framelines, it’s been rock solid, and I’m proud to say every bit of brassing it has (not much yet) is all from me. It’s my favorite camera, my desert island kit, and hopefully an heirloom I may pass to my kids one day, if I ever have any!
Ah I found a camera twin. Agreed! :)
MP is indeed nice.
M-A is my No1 winner though.
Black chrome without any branding. Pure joy.
Silver chromes are class too.
Great to hear! I haven’t checked out the MA.. One day! :)
Indeed you CAN buy an M-A new. The MP has been made popular by CZcams. Beautiful in black paint, no arguing that! The M-A is a newer model from 2014 that Leica makes brand new. Along with the M6 reissue. Of those three though, for its bad CZcams marketing, I think the M-A is your best option if you want something less known that is just as amazing as the other two, if not more. And you don’t need a battery.
Thank you! Love my Leica MP too. Greatings from the home of Leica, Germany!
Thank you too!
i've lusted over the mp for years imagining i'd get one and finally early this year i pulled the trigger and got me the brand new m6. sometimes i still watch videos of silver mp unboxings but i'm happy with my black m6 now. :)
That's awesome!! I'm sure it'll serve you faithfully!
I love this camera so much. This and my M2. Love all your photos, especially on the 35 pre LUX. I'm hunting for one... Thanks for the great vids.
Yes I love this camera too!! :) Glad you enjoy them!!
Love your video so much I also love film I turn my MA to M11 but not I am thinking about chaning back to MA or MP this is really hard choice I dont ofter use light meter but black paint on the MP is so good.
Haha! Yes come back to film! (Though I am biased… :P) If you don’t use a light meter, how about an M4 or a M2? Those are really amazing too! And if you get one in a good condition, their film advance feels amaaaaazing - arguably better than the MP! :D
Love your videos! I bought a brand new Leica MP black paint after waiting in line at 4 Leica stores for almost a year. That was after finally saving enough money to purchase it ( that took 2 years). It’s my dream camera. I love it! I take it on travels and documenting my family and daily life. I also own a Nikonos V for when we go surfing and a ricoh griiix (for quick captures and quick sharing and when I run out of film). If I had to choose 1 camera is would hands down be my MP. ❤
Thank you!! Oh wow.. I’ve heard brand new ones are hard to come by, but what a wait! Congratulations though! I’m sure it’ll serve you well for decades! Those are some awesome cameras.. I’d love to ysee your work! :)
Thanks. Beautiful camera. Got mine last year new. Joy to use. To be included in my will!
Haha! Awesome!! Time to draft mine as well..
Very nice. I have a new M6 but don't really enjoy it, because the metering red dots don't give direct Aperture and Shutter Speed information. I'm tempted to use an M2 or M4 and just meter using the Sunny 16 Rule.
I think the red/green dot meters are the only major downside to the metered Leicas, and that's been a popular opinion for decades. I think Leica missed the boat by not redesigning the meter for the recent M6 reissue.
@@justinkingery2489 Absolutely correct.
Thank you! Funny you say that, I’m actually exploring that very thing else well, just to practice my exposure making for a few months! :)
Great video Jeremy!
This was short and concise while also giving your personal feelings about the camera. This is my dream camera and I hope to get one someday. I love the way the brass looks just like yours
Glad you enjoy it! I don't think you'd regret it :)
Which looks nicer, black or silver? It’s a tough choice!!
Tough indeed! :D
Hi Jeremy! Love that brass rewind crank/knob. Do you mind sharing where you bought that accessory?
Hello! Sure! It’s called the SOOM rewind lever. Link in the description! :)
i love my black pain MP! it was my dream camera i just picked one up after a long wait and using an M3 for a bit. i honestly feel like i never need another camera with my current duo.
Yes! THe m3 is beautiful.. Really love those curved frame lines..
Well said! I also have serial # 2890xxx MP Black paint, do we have the “First Batch” MP? (According to serial guide & not counting the special editions) I believe our earlier serials have superior paint job compared to more modern MPs. Thank you so much for letting the World know how great the MP is. 😊
Indeed! :)
Hello Jeremy!
If you had to choose, a small, bright, sharp 35 lens for the Leica MP:
* Ultron, ASPH V2
or
* Summicron ASPH V2?
Which one would it be and why? :)
Best regards?
Hello! Apologies for the slow reply, wanted to reply when I had the time to give a proper one!
Oh man.. Thats a hard one... I think.. it would have to be... The Ultron ASPH v2.. Hah!
The ASPH summicron is great - its good all around performer, it gives nice colors, contrast, resolution.. But.. Something about the pictures it makes doesn't separate it from other lenses... It's a "transparent" lens, that doesn't impose itself onto the picture.. But with that, it also doesn't stand out - in 10 years time, if I looked back at a picture made by it, without any EXIF or notes, I would never be able to tell you what lens it was made on.
The Ultron v2 wide open does something pretty unique, and stopped down it's great. So for me, I'm always looking for a a lens to do something that complements & accentuates what I'm going for!
I feel much the same about the Pentax MX.
Wonderful!
Thank you! :)
Hey Jeremy, how often do you find you need a rangefinder calibration on your MPs? When I got my Brand New MP in 2021, it came from the factory with a misaligned rangefinder. I got it fixed, but nearly 2 years later, I’m finding it needs another alignment (vertical this time). It mostly lives in a Billingham bag, so I just don’t understand what I’m doing to the camera, even with all the padding, that sets it off. Do you find this issue? Do you get things tuned up once a year or something?
Hey Stuart! Yes, sadly they do inevitably drift due to the nature of their design, you’re not doing anything wrong to cause it to happen! :)
They function via a screw turned to a certain point, but nothing is fixed or locked down. So inevitably, as the entire mechanism moves, over time and repeat use, there will be some micro movements to that screws “calibrated” position. Eg - Say the horizontal screw set at 80 degrees is correct, but at 81 degrees infinity is off.. All that is holding it in place at 80 instead 81 degrees is merely friction, so with use, the screw will drift, though I find that after a number of years the entire system settles down more and I’ve needed less and less calibrations.
When shooting large aperture lenses I find myself needing to do a slight adjustment every 6 months to a year (50mm f0.95/f1), so 2 years is quite awhile! But I’ve recently been shooting 35mm stopped down, so any lack of alignment isn’t noticeable! Even 35mm F1.4 is much more forgiving than 50 f1.4.
Also, some additional information - adjusting the vertical adjustment, or the horizontal infinity position isn’t a difficult job, it takes less than 5 minutes, but it does require the right tools, and some* skill.. Adjusting the horizontal axis at a close distance (1m, 2m etc) requires a lot more work, because you’ll need to insert a ground glass into the film plane.
All that said to let you know, that if you send your camera in for just a vertical adjustment alone, it shouldn’t be too expensive! If a tech wants $300 to do that, something is not right.. :) And a good way to check if a tech is doing a thorough job is to ask if they only calibrate the rangefinder at infinity, or at close distances as well - some techs say they do, but they actually only check infinity, hoping customers don’t notice that close distances being off… :(
Hope this helps! :)
@@jeremy-t thank you for such a detailed response! Yes, I was beginning to think I was going crazy with noticing some changes in the vertical alignment; that being said, I’m really curious to know whether or not when I got the rangefinder recalibrated if they just did infinity alignment (for $200 CAD). I’d honestly be super interested if you made a video going over you realigning your rangefinder either vertically or horizontally on the MP, specifically, because the other videos don’t seem to address this camera specifically and apparently it’s slightly different than other Leica Ms. You can throw in as many disclaimers as you like just so you know your back is covered, but I’d love to learn how to do it myself as I am a tinkerer by nature, and feel like I could do it myself, especially since sending it away there isn’t really anyone close anymore to service it and Leica New Jersey supposedly can’t tell up from down based off forums I’ve read where their servicing is done incredibly poorly.
If you could only keep one, which would you pick between your M6 or MP? I have a M3 and considering am MP as well. Especially after watching this video 😹🦖
MP... Definitely (:
@@jeremy-t May I ask your reasons?
I hope to shoot film for many years to come 🤞 so I appreciate that the camera wears in with me and brasses very nicely. Also, the viewfinder patch clearer, especially focusing in backlight! Full video on this is in the works!
is it durable as the m6 in body quality? I mean m6 are magnesium this is brass..
Yes. The m6 is zinc.
ok better for crash test@@jeremy-t
Do you recommend to upgrade from M6 TTL x0.72 to M6 2022 model?
The benefit you'll get is a better viewfinder patch, a brass top, and serviceability being a newer camera, beside that it's very similar!
Your baseplate is bent from screwing it too tight to a tripod. A new plate is about €150 if you ever might wonder. Nice video thanks!
Yes!! It’s been that way for the longest time.. It’s hard to find one for such a good price though! Where do you get it from?