How Old is Tiahuanaco? Is it the 'Cradle of American Man?'
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- Unique amongst ancient megalithic sites, the twin locations of Tiahuanaco and Puma Punku, located high on the Altiplano of Bolivia, represent an enduring mystery for the history of human civilizations. The true age of these ruins has always been a controversial topic, and the man responsible for 50 years of primary excavation and research here, Professor Arthur Posnansky, used a multi-disciplinary approach to conclude that they originated more than 10,000 years ago. Unsurprisingly, this date is dismissed by mainstream archaeology -but just how valid is this dismissal? And what is the evidence behind the claims?
Years in the making, this video investigates the claims behind the age of these enigmatic locations, and seeks to understand if Tiahuanaco was, as Posnansky termed it, the 'Cradle of American Man.'
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0:00 Introduction
5:57 Previous Videos and Posnansky's books
7:27 Cultural Connections
13:22 Geological timeline, first period
25:48 Climate of the Altiplano, 2nd and 3rd period
31:12 Evidence for Flooding
33:51 Erosion
35:05 Destruction of Tiahuanaco
39:23 Reconstruction of the site
40:22 Cloaka Maxima and Super Block
41:30 Recent Discoveries
42:37 Other points from Posnansky
43:47 Astronomical Dating
50:21 Modern Astronomical Dating
52:38 Connection to Younger Dryas?
55:09 Conclusion
57:15 Post-script, trip updates and thanks
#megalithic #tiwanaku #astronomy - Zábava
As a Peruvian and fan of history, and after visiting many of these sites myself, I want to thank you for your work. Your open mind towards our Latin American ancient sites is more of what is needed. In my humble opinion many of them are singfinificantly under studied and wrongly dated. I suggest you check other amazing sites such as Sechin, Chavin de Huantar, Casarabe in Bolivia and, most recently, Caral (3000 BC) and Los Morteros (3.500BC).
Thank you for your work.
Ask Ben why he stated to a comment by Pete. His Peruvian ancestors would rape the stones from the site. He has edited it. However it was there I saw it Pete had to have read it. And Ben knows what he wrote. Not a very nice thing calling Peruvian ancestors Rapists of stone blocks.
Maybe change the description of "Latin America"..... these monuments are not Latin nor American or have any connection with European culture.....
Crazy. We have bodies I Florida that go back 13,500 years.
Yet they say only 3,000year old in South N.America
There are many people all around the world who agree with you 100%. We truth seakers are determined to figure it all out.
Material evidence gathered at Monte Verde(CHILE) has reshaped the way archaeologists think about the earliest inhabitants of the Americas. Radiocarbon dating has provided a date of 14,800 BP and possibly 33,000 BP, establishing Monte Verde(CHILE) as the oldest-known site of human habitation in the Americas.
I want you to know how grateful I am for the work that you're doing. Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock are my two favorite people in the world and you are quickly becoming my third favorite. I am 61 years old but have spent most of my life trying to put these pieces together and you just helped me a lot with with going into Puma punku. Thank you so much.
Nice and all but Ben supports shooting homeless people in Los Angeles. Ask him.
Agreed. I am tortured, wanting to know the truth.
I’m horrified at how the life’s work of Arthur Posnanski is dismissed as pseudo-archeology. Thank you so much for synthesizing his evidences and conclusions. Please continue to share your readings interpretations.
Same here, 65!
So thankful.
⁹but handcok is racist😂😂
I really appreciate how you take complex information simplifying it without dumbing it down
He's not simplifying anything. You're just a genius. 😱
@@BungieStudios was that meant sarcastically?
You are, by far, the best of all the others in the depth, breadth, detail, and eloquence, without the needless diversions in story telling and beating your own drum.
Its too bad much of this video is based on pseudoscience. Otherwise its quality would be outstanding.
One of the greatest content presenters on yt. The writing is professional, measured and engaging. Love your work Ben.
What a great piece of work here Ben, like a cool drink of water on the giza plateau, your calm and thoughtful pieces never fail to amuse, inform..enlighten and provide an enjoyable respite from the chaos of the usual 'blizzard of bulls**t' that passes for ancient history videos on the web these days. I love your channel, and support your work. You, and Matt at ancient architects channel, keeping me sane in a challenging world!
Well said.
Chur! 🤙🏻
Glad you said cool glass of water and not herbal tea. 🤣
Matt is one video away from grabbing a bronze friction saw and some sand to cut some granite. He became quite the skeptical mind of late. Which is actually a good balance although he does seem less willing as of late to entertain the more exotic theory's
He's b just bringing up the same stuff that's all ready out there stuff that's been brought up multiple time's, the drill holes, how'd they move the big stones an so on
Aloha Ben,
In a recent trip to Peru (June 2022) we went visiting the ruins of Pisac, we hired a Inca tourist guide at the site and when we arrived by the megalithic wall I asked him who thought his ancestors such building techniques and he answered “the Tiahuanaco thought the Incas” then when I asked when he said roughly 10 to 13 thousand years ago! I found his answers really compelling 😄
The extreme age Posnansky calculated could originate in the fact that the first observatory was indeed built thousands of years ago and the central parts and alignment indicators were kept as sacred by following, devout generations until the Tiahuanaco we know today was built much later. At that time the alignment indicators were un-aligned of course. I wouldn't be astonished if careful excavations would reveal the remnants of correction measures.
It has been a sheer pleasure to relax and unwind whilst watching this scintillating and very interesting video. Thank you so much for the time put into it Ben, and your team.
@@Slug002 Its too bad this one man band cant play any instruments. Or learn actual scientific methodology.
Another fantastic piece of work. Thanks for introducing us to Dr. Posnansky's work. Odd how researchers like Posnansky and Flinders-Petrie seem so far ahead of their time rather than following it.
Mate, this is an exquisite piece of work. Your production quality and depth of content are simply top of the game.
Yet, another great episode. I've heard about this site in Bolivia for many years, but never have I heard this excellent explanation. Thank you sir.
Just watched this for the third time since you gifted us with it. Jimmy, Brian and Ben are the ones that are enlightening "us". You are the future archaeologist!!!! A degree at Harvard, that your daddy paid for, doesn't make you intellegent. An inquiring mine does. Thank you guys!
💯 I agree with your comment 💯%
Cheers Ben. To hear the geological data you gathered, along with he archeological info it does paint a clear picture to me.
The unfinished works that we find globally such as the unfinished obelisk in Aswan, the Balbek Quarry, and here in Peru, as you pointed out , lead me to think the cataclysm was truely horrific.
And if sediment could accumulate half way up the Giza pyramids, it’s amazing any of them survived.
Because I believe a very few did survive and sought refuge with hunter gatherer tribes, and taught them agriculture and astronomy etc.
The Egyptian creation story starts with the Benben, the pyramidial mound, being the first dry land above the waters of Chaos, Nut. The Egyptian ragnarok/doomsday is a great flood. It's pretty clear what happened IMO.
My friend took me out in his 20Ft yacht we got caught up in a flash storm off the west coast of Scotland. The waves were massive, we were being lifted by the waves like we were matchsticks and we had to hang on literally for dear life.
And all that we experienced was a not so big flash storm!
In a cataclysm as we all know, things would be turned into matchsticks pretty quickly! And there have been many of those cataclysms.
I just don't get why people find it hard to believe.
Maybe they need a ride in a small yacht in a flas storm 😂
As with so many of these ancient sites, all I keep thinking is "these are functional." With the exception of the exceptionally ornate temples in India and southeast Asia, most of these sites in Egypt and Peru have such precision in their cuts and form - precision that really only makes sense if there was a function required for it.
Why are the angles and edges so precise, showing obvious signs of repeatability like with modern construction material manufacturing, and the holes drilled? These looks like doors, or gates, or components of something very large. But they're not adorned with figures of animals, people, or aesthetics - just precise alignments and indications these were meant to function with pieces we can no longer see.
For whatever reason, however they did it so much was done it must have been easy for them.
The inscriptions in some Egyptian stones were done much later than when they were made.
Exactly, many of these structure scream 'industry' or 'civil engineering'. Both the precision and the size of the objects found have that functional look. At least we can conclude that these objects were relatively easy for them to produce.
Check out some videos on Ankor Wat in Cambodia. It absolutely has functional architecture. There’s literally parts of the ancient building that are able to move and rotate but the design is so flush it’s hard to tell.
Praveen Mohan has many videos inside Ankor Wat where he attempts to piece together the mystery. Go keep him out if your interested
As a proud owner of a set off the Posnansky tomes, I too have started to digitize them. Good luck with the OCR.... OUCH! A far more "Manual" process than I had hoped.
Ben’s work is so well put together. He does better than any nat geo documentaries I’ve ever seen. His flow keeps you interested throughout the entirety in this and any other of his docucast. Very open ended yet focused content letting common sense carve the path thru mainstream nonsense while leaving enough rubble on the trail for us to keep questioning those current mindsets. You always know he will deliver!
Ben, please do a short (under 15 minutes) video of the megalithic work with the bumps/ protrusions that appear around the world. I love your long form videos, but I’d like a shorter one I can share with friends who would probably not stick around for a long video.
Another informative exhumation highlighted by sharing the work of Professor Arthur Posnansky. Excellent!!! Kudos & Thank yous.
We’ve missed ya Ben! Thank you for compiling research for our benefit!
The big bonus has to be the images taken by Posnasky and comparing them to what we see today. I now better appreciate the significance of the site. Fantastic episode! Thanks and regards from the UK
I think we should also heavily appreciate those researchers who used early cameras to get pics of sites before they were built over or rebuilt
My korean partner was listening to me watching this and reacted to the name Tiahuanaco. To her, Tia-hua-naco sounded like the korean word sih-wa-gu (시화구) meaning "the mouth of a city". Maybe a cool coincidence, but interesting for people who subscribe to the shared culture agenda.
I'm so glad someone has a platform to state the obvious. The status quo does not have the guts to think for themselves.
They're paid to maintain the status quo. Only immorality and unethical behaviour is rewarded in this world. This is rule #1 in the Babylon Money Magic psyop
@E Van yeah, know all about that.
Many are willing to debate Ben.
You seem a little angry. Are you thinking for yourself watching this presenter spoonfeeds his theories to you? Perhaps you should chill your sense of academic arrogance, or do you just enjoy being a dusch?
I am only 6 minutes into this video, and it's obviously going to be another great video. I have no idea why this channel doesn't have over a million subs.
When looking into these subjects two names are widely known as the authority figures. So many people have listened to the two GOATS I am referring too, which is a good thing. These two men with the initials "RC and GH", have opened many eyes to the many discrepancies of mainstream academia, it's almost like a new area of study has seemingly sprouted up, a mini age of enlightenment in a sense.
My prediction is that if you keep knocking the ball out of the stadium with the quality of your content and the very much appreciated due diligence you have poured into this you will come to mind as the next GOAT alongside RC, GH. The thunder is all yours at this point. And no this isn't a competitive thing and I do not mean to sound as if it were, but you have put so much into this that you deserve way more recognition and I believe you will most definitely get it.
Now, I am going to finish the video, thanks for all you have done to create such amazing content.
It's hard to believe Ben doesn't hold a Ph.D in this subject in which he's so passionate about... Perhaps, one day.
Bravo Ben.
Brilliant, Ben! Thanks so much for this video. That you have gone through and taken out unique pieces to share with us is doing the world for keeping the history and research of Tiahuanako alive in mainstream. Well done!
I agree on the sluice gate. Also, the micro holes you point out at, 41:12 is identical to the Corricancha 'pinch holes'.
Ben, thank you so much for another wonderful video. Puma Punku and Tiwanacu are unique and extremely fabulous sites that deserve more attention.
Great documentary Ben. Well done for putting this together. Do you have a link to the paper by Neil Steede regarding the dating of the site being around 10,000 BC? - Hugh
Thanks Hugh. I don't, despite searching for both his and Riveria's work. Going from reports of other researchers, lecture notes, and interview transcripts (for both of them), as well as the TV special in which he appeared titled 'Mysterious Origins of Man.'. I know Steede backed off on the date (and settled on around 7-8K years old for 'other' reasons, still way older than the orthodox date) but my understanding is the 10,000BC date is the result from analysing the alignment of the structure with our more accurate astronomical information.
Excellent analysis. The connection with Easter Island looks pretty obvious. The hand position on the Easter Island Ahu is slightly different but the formal posture of statues is similar. I’ve come to think it possible that the advancements in sophistication may have come from the South Pacific to South America by way of a long lost civilisation’s migration after the sea level rise forced them to move
Great job Ben. Your video is a wonderful contribution to unraveling the many mysteries of Tiwanaku. Whilst Posnansky remains a controversial figure for mainstream archaeology, it is important to know what Posnansky thought about Tiwanaku and it's contribution to other Civilisations in the Americas. Thank you for the hard work and for the passion with which you do your research. Let's hope to see soon a follow-up to this presentation.
A great tribute to the work of an early researcher. I was impressed by the depth of his research you describe. I was reminded of Flinders-Petrie, some of whose works on Egypt I have read. He also showed the same rigour, tenacity, thoroughness and moderation.
Wow!.. Thanks for working so hard on this video. This truly, has to be the best & most informative videos on those ancient Bolivian sites. Thank you & good work 👍
There is a fantastic rebuttal to this video that lays out the actual evedence that has been found by the scientific community over the last 30 years or so. And its much different than the conclusions of those over 100 years ago which ben seems to lean on here. Its from a channel called World of Antiquity.
Thank you Ben for doing this, you are a true hero on this field. Hearing your rational analysis on all the different sites you have covered calms my mind.
there's simply nothing in the mainstream archaeologic explanation which would explain the level of destruction in this site. it is clear this twin site has stood there for at least 12,000 years and went through a cataclysm of some kind.
Utterly brilliant work. Quality of this research and logical reasoning are great to watch. Really fascinating account. Credit to you. Hope Amazon ask you to put a series together from all your work.
Keep up the good work shedding light on these interesting ancient sites. Hopefully one day the true origin of these amazing sites will be taught instead of everything being a temple.
Well said. "Being a temple", it is almost the way of thinking of certain type of archaeologists. The true origin and the true purpose of all the amazing sites all over the world are to be rediscovered by clever, specialized and dedicated people, freed from the stalled thoughts of the actual "rulers of the Archaeology".
Thanks for sharing, Ben.
Highly interesting and well put together.
Outstanding content! You have actually topped your usual consistently great research with this. Thank you.
The research I have done on this region would indicate a large mining operation in the surrounding mountains around the lake, Puma Punku was most likely a large ore processing facility for the region with the lake being used for barging raw ore to the facility.
There's an ancient Peruvian artifact that still blows my mind that I don't hear about much. It is made completely out of platinum, which was mined, then smelted at unbelievable degrees. Very peculiar.
The Americas fit the mythology of the animal Enki perfectly.listen to Randal Carlson explain the conditions of North America during g the last ice age and cataclysmic events. Moving to Peru to MI e the land with the help of our species trading knowledge for la or also fits to a t. Mining the waters was more difficult than expected so they set up to mine the land. This is why the Andes region s were known as cities of the sky people and neologism means those who came down from above they came Dow fro. The 27000ft altitude of the a death help reseed civilization after we suffered great cataclysm . Hence Hermes, Thoth, Mercury odin, zeus, Olympus etc etc
Fantastic work as always Ben... and so much more to discover in this particular part of the world!!! thank you for bringing this to us.
It seems unanimous, this is great work! I love the details you’ve included on dating methods. Thanks much!
Great work as always Ben! This place is fascinating, and A. Posnansky another example of the gentleman scholar, missing from our days.
Has anyone ever tried to decipher those carvings on that master stone?
yes, posnansky has an entire volume about it more or less. I haven't gotten too deep into it yet
In the Law of One, Ra says survivors of Lemuria formed colonies in North and South America, and Russia. Whoever built Tiahuanaco and Puma Punka had access to advanced technology to construct these massive megalithic structures.
I would think geologists can calculate how long it took for the Strand line to tilt that far and if tiwanaco is that old it shouldn't be swept under the rug. And I would like to hear more about these ancient Terraces.
Excellent job as always, Ben. Göbekli Tepe was built around 10,000 BC, Atlantis is said to have sunk to the bottom of the ocean around this time - why not this site? It is interesting that Puma Punku is part of the complex and the puma is the South American equivalent of the lion. The Viracocha at the center of the sun gate looks like he has a mane, and 10,000 BC would have been the dawn of The Age of Leo. What is really neat to think about is the fact that The Patagonian Ice Sheet would have been covered this area for a few millennia prior to the site's construction. A shrine to the sun that warms Earth that was once covered by an ice sheet. Totally neat.
atlantis is a myth buddy, have a good day.
@@creepin93 Hey thanks, I had a good day!
Regarding Atlantis - In actuality, I have as much proof that Atlantis existed as you have that it didn't. We didn't hear the story of Atlantis from Herodotus who was known to never let the truth get in the way of a good story; we learned it from Plato, who has a pretty good track record of speaking the truth. Gorillas "didn't exist" until we "discovered" them. The Coelacanth was "extinct" until it wasn't. I think Atlantis was an advanced city compared to other cities of its time, but I don't buy into the magic crystal flying dune buggy jive.
Have a good day.
@@CaliforniaCarpenter7 you do know plato over heard the STORY when he was a KID?
basically plato was eavesdropping on two adults that were chatting while DRINKING!
those two men were sharing TALES of sea voyages and shit that no sound minded individual would take seriously.
and to your attempt at a argument
i got as much proof flying carpets exist as you do that they dont. now is that sensical?!
@@creepin93 When I was a kid, I learned that 2 + 2 = 4. If I learned it from someone *"WHO HAD BEEN DRINKING!!!!"* it doesn't make it untrue.
Magic Carpets are physically impossible, you created a false equivalency. Logical fallacy. I get the feeling you're smarter than that, no need for the antics.
Plato shared his story with The Socratic Forum. The portions of the story that were myth were clearly delineated - The story of Phaeton recounted by the Egyptian Priests in Criteas for example. Plato re-iterated multiple times in the telling that Atlantis was a real place. He went out of his way to make sure he hammered that into the readers.
Gobekli Tepe was discovered not so long ago now. We know for certain that Humans were creating monumental stone architecture at least *SIX Millennia* prior to when we used to think they started building like that.
But again. I'm not defending the mystic, magical crap. I'm not a religious person, I don't believe in magic angel space aliens. If Atlantis existed, I bet when we find it we will find crude stone work, and perhaps even crude metal work. My *guess* is, Atlanteans were slightly more advanced than their contemporaries in The Ancient World.
@@CaliforniaCarpenter7 hahahahahaha plato's fairy tale recollection of two drunks babbling the night away is the equivalent of "i saw mama kiss santa claus" account!
and no you haven't learned anything as a child if you insist on pushing BASELESS eurocentric stories.
the continent of america has been populated for 1000's of years prior but harry potter fans want to pretend euro's came over and did it all, yeah...
yet no tribes mention them
no genetic evidence AT ALL
europeans didn't even KNOW of the american continent!
Polynesian's and Asian's knew though, AND THERES PROOF, audacity
dont have a good day, have your medicine instead.
Excellent content, as always Ben.
I can't even describe how much I want to visit this place now.
Your content is well researched and your production values are top notch. It's a crime you don't have 1M subscribers yet. Upvoted and subbed.
Thank you so much for your work! I'm from Argentina, and I've been looking for this kind of information about the ancient cultures of the Altiplano for some time. My main frustration, until I found your video, was that everybody seemed to assume that the Altiplano was always an unforgiving desert 4K meters above sea level, and couldn't find any data about climate history of the area. Now you've pointed me in the right direction to find it and taught me a great deal in the process. So, again, thank you so so much!
Puma Punku has to be one of the most mysterious sites on the planet besides Egypt (that we know of). Also Egypt and Puma Punku are my 2 favorite.
Unfortunately everything we've been told about the 2 sites is a lie. Thank you Ben for helping people understand by spreading the knowledge!
what about the 4th black pyramid as recorded and sketched in the 17th century by 2 different men decades apart..cant remember their names though.
So everything we have been told is a lie but you would believe Ben? What is the criteria for believability?
@@Vision_2 No, not believing in only Ben. After studying ancient civilizations for 10 years it is pretty obvious that the academic world only allows information to be taught in universities that fits their narrative. The evidence is literally right there in front of everyone but because it's been programmed into your brains since birth people do not bother to investigate further
@@5_meter_spread As far as a narrative, there is none that I see in Academia for ancient history. But I sure see one in Alternate history circles. The gathered evidence is studied rationally. We know when people were active, we know that stonework was possible with the tools found, we know that societies grew and collapsed and were affected by climate and other natural disasters. I don't see a reason to dis-believe.
@@Vision_2 you see no dis believe in modern Archeology that persist that agriculture and megalithic construct started around 6000 years ago. While there is solid evidence that agriculture and megalithic construct is at least 10.000/11000 year's old.
Sir,first view of your channel. Best hour I've spent in a while on here. That you show your print sources so we dinosaurs may read along withyou, and the benign way you present 'just the facts' is commendable. Health ,luck and success to you. I will be back.
Hi Ben! I didn't get my notification until today! But It's always wonderful to see you've posted a new video! If you ever want to branch out into narrating audiobooks your voice is so enjoyable to listen to I'd listen to everything you do! I hope you and those you love are well Ben! Much love from Northern Alberta, Canada! 💕 💕💕
Excellent work, Ben, with claims being argued for and evidenced. We can only be thankful to you for having introduced us in such detail to the work of Arthur Posnansky, as it still seems to be the most in depth study of the site to have been done thus far.
As long as you ignore every other archaeological study.
@@Vision_2 name some, because I did - oh wait, they came from adjacent studies like astronomy or geology. You know, those professions far more qualified than archaeologists in their subject matters
@@UnchartedX I didnt hear you mention J P Protzen but maybe I missed that. There have been many studies from various countries and academic organizations over the last century and continuing today. Geophysical studies are more and more advanced. Your opinion about the relative validity of archaeology vs other disciplines does not make it so. Archaeology combines itself whenever possible with any other available science and knowledge advances as it should albeit too slowly for us interested folks.
@@Vision_2 the fact that archaeology projects are generally multidisciplinary and there is even a well known journal Geoarchaeology tends to get ignored by people pushing a particular narrative.
@@rockysexton8720 Indeed. Cheers.
Just a comment to support the channel! Fantastic video, incredible work. Most underrated ancient history channel on CZcams.
Fantastic video - thanks so much for making this. Can't wait to see this place myself someday!
AWESOME VIDEO BEN!!! so much super fascinating information, and soooo well-brought together!! Thank you! Thank you!!! Your videos have really sparked in me a tremendous new interest in ancient megalithic civilizations!!!
Very interesting video. I roughly agree with Posnanky's dates for Kalasasaya. The small square is around 15ky old, but the large square is probably around 26ky old. Posnansky did not study the orientation differences of Kalasasaya, Akapana, or Puma Punku, which you should to understand our ancient past.
Mario nice to see you here, I wish Ben would Interview you he might have a new understanding of the power of dating ancient stone structures using orientation
and the expanding earth theory. I support you in all that you teach, Thank you for your work!!!
Absolutely brilliant work Ben as with many of your viewers can’t wait to see your next one and do need to watch this several times to get it all to sink in , how amazing to think that there was so much water there that it was a port then got destroyed by more water with the big flood . The evidence which seems so clear by how much of it has been berried by sediment and how cool would it be to see more of it uncovered and the high precision artefacts revealed truly an amazing place . Thanks again look forward to meeting you in Egypt on your November tour & shaking you hand in person if that is allowed 🤔… Greg from Aus cheers mate 🍻.
Ben never ceases to amaze with his dedication and the quality of his work.
You are doing a wonderful job of researching, analyzing, synthesizing and presenting information on our human past. You have here fleshed out much of the findings of Posnansky that I had not known before. Thank you! (I want to thank you again for bringing attention to the little publicized work of Dr. James Westerman relating to the age and the possible purpose of the so-called Osirion of Egypt in a previous video earlier this year.)
Great video Ben. I've been hoping for a presentation like this since I first saw images of the site.
Great video as always Ben. It’s crazy how much great work has been done by those before us. People who spent a lifetime trying to unravel the mysteries of our past, and people like yourself who revive, and build upon that work while sharing it with us so we can also learn more about our past. Thank you! Also, it must’ve been fun trying to say “The change of the obliquity of the ecliptic” so many times. Haha..
Thanks Dan, you're awesome :)
@@UnchartedX This is ancient gold processing plant like Chaco Canyan was in the USA. Peru is full of ancient open pit stepped mines, the "Band of Holes" in Pisco Vally is Ancient blast holes. look at mines today same tech as in ancient times.
The Acropolis of Athens was a mining/smelting operation also, look at the google map and you can see. You well notice two amphitheaters on south side that was documented ancient open pit mine. they have the ancient arched mine kilns in the middle of the mines/theaters and if you look at the North wall you well notice two/three ancient tailing piles that was just thrown over the North wall and remains there to this day.
@@UnchartedX Whats the differences between a "Mesopotamia Reed Boat" then an "Egyption Reed Boat" and a "Lake Titicaca Reed Boat"? Or whats the differnces of a Mesopotamia thatch roof from an ancient Egyption thatch roof or a Lake Titicaca thatch roof? seems like they alll had the same teachers over vast distances?
These lone door ways give me the creeps, just like the one Boris erected in trafalgar square uk lock down in plandemic, look it up, what do these all mean... Anyone?
interesting how some of the old vertical monoliths have impressions, or cut outs? from the original wall blocks. how the hell did they do that? great stuff man, always look forward to your videos.
I've only recently discovered ur channel ..Immediately subbed .. your Egypt videos are also Extremely interesting..keep up the good work.. THANX !!!
Ugh I've been seriously hurting for something real to watch! Thanks so much mate!
Some of the terracing could have been about mining. I have to say Ben, you present truly amazing work. Amazing videos, very thoughtful, very concise, highly entertaining, and I just love your sense of humor!! 😎
Great informative video! By using the change in the position of the solstice sunrise and sunset, Posnansky calculated what the Earth’s tilt was when the temple was built and thus the age of its construction, 15,000 BC. I question the reliability of this approach since the same forces that produced the marked titling and uplift of the plain could conceivably have produced a slight twisting of the site, affecting where the solstice sun would rise and set. Yet either way produces a date far earlier than the guardians of archaeological orthodoxy are willing to admit.
"Material evidence gathered at Monte Verde has reshaped the way archaeologists think about the earliest inhabitants of the Americas. Radiocarbon dating has provided a date of 14,800 BP and possibly 33,000 BP, establishing Monte Verde as the oldest-known site of human habitation in the Americas."
What a great video - you're really competently broadcasting all the good work done in this field
You're really carving out your own stamp on these topics. Keep going and never stop.
Ben, you make it worth being on the internet. I'll pass this video around. Great job and thank you.
EXCELLENT WORK!! You've really done an amazing job with this. Subscribed!
Always great videos Ben, always informative and I nearly always get some new information. I find yours and Brien Foersters channels to help many people get clued in. Thanks again buddy.
Exactly what I’ve been looking for.
Very informative, detailed, and thorough.
Exquisite execution, the breakdown , the explanations and the thought provoking mysteries at hand .
Absolutely love the channel, keep up the great work, brother.
Excellent work Ben, thank you so much for sharing these books with all of us that find this place so fascinating!! Î
Have you seen the stone nubs at the Yangshan Quarry site? The nubs are HUGE compared to the ones in walls, but the single stone they're on is also huge. So if the nubs are bigger on bigger stones, that could be the key to understanding their purpose. And this stone at Yangshan Quarry also looks like water may have flowed through the bottom like your Superblock. If the nubs are there to tune the vibration or mass of the stone, the nubs could affect the sound or vibration caused by water flowing through it.
Ahh, another of the missing pieces to the puzzle that is: " The Great Global stone tuning-fork Civilization " that lasted from roughly ( add date ) to ( add date ) and was destroyed in the world wide flood or impact cataclysm that has been pinpointed to have happened in ( add date ). Please provide citation for all dates offered. Only dates that have been confirmed as of 1993 should be listed.
@@russellmillar7132 The more important citation would be any evidence for the global conspiracy theory in which people secretly passed on the idea for carving knobs into rocks over a period of 5,000 years across all cultures and continents.
Im really glad to see more capable people taking up the torch of Alternative history investigation .Ive only seen a few of your videos so far but id like to state You do a very good job Ben and present your videos very well i find . Keep up the great work and im hopeful people like yourself will continue to give people a more realistic view of what our true history is and to help combat an academia that is way too locked into an incorrect history model and far to arrogant to ever admit they were way off the mark ! Thanks for all your hard work .take care
Whether it's the sands of the Sahara or the alluvium around Titicaca, it's so humbling and frustrating to realize how helpless we are at uncovering what is obviously down there and waiting to be discovered. Politics, economics and even sheer lack of engineering methods are preventing us from getting to the bottom of this. Pardon the pun.
well when the priority is destroying all the land and people by euro foreign christian aliens that have no connection or remorse of its destruction, it makes it a bit difficult to uncover.
The fence around the Gate of the Sun appears to be further away than I remember. And, what force can you imagine it would take to snap the gate in two like that?
Team rocket blasting off again. 👍
Fantastic stuff Ben, thanks for your hard work. More still to find world wide I think.
Been there a couple times. Definitely built during Satya Yuga. Thanks for the great content!
Thank you Ben. Good to see you! I must say the first 6 mins. are a wonderful "stepping up". Done that way it really gives me the feeling of a "movie". Viscerally more enjoyable than the necessary documentary style that is the norm. Congratz on the books.
Great work Ben the footage and screen shots were beautiful and I also found some new and fascinating facts about these area's in this video cheers dude 👍
Thank You Ben! Your materials are so God damn solid, probably the bests out there on CZcams platform.
Solid schitt maybe.... His sources are pretty awful.
Ben, this didn't even come up in my notifications. Imagine my happy surprise when it was right after Randal. Great, as usual.
Do you travel to all these sites?
Awesome videos mate. Every single one ive watched is so well done.
I think you're definitely on to something with regards to the South American megalithic remains, and the Egyptian ones, however I think Atlantis was much more likely an eruption on Thera. Otherwise, fascinating stuff, keep it up. PS, the finish on the boxes/sarcophagi in Egypt look a lot like a glaze of some sort. This raises the question of just how and why they did this.
*Edit* Actually, I'm coming around to the idea that the Azores plateau was Atlantis but two things still need explained: 1) how the plateau dropped 2000m without there being some obvious evidence of this elsewhere, and 2) the lack of any evidence of occupation on the remaining Azores islands apart from the mysterious and missing Corva island statue.
Thank you so much! Excellent reporting.
Leaving us with much imagination to in-vision what was a truly ancient amazing civilization.
The ‘Super Block’ is just one of many examples of a high order city.
Oh my, crazy how much I love your work. One of the only go-tos, in a time where almost nothing else seems to be worth my time and energy.
Been waiting for this one my friend. Kicking back and enjoying. :)
Just yesterday read about a study of the University of Chile regarding a 9.6 earthquake occurring 1800 bc in the Atacama region, considered the most intense known in our history, which completely devastated the habitants of the area. Is this the catastrophe we are looking for?
9.6 is huge, geez.
Great presentation! This channel is leaps and bounds ahead of almost everyone else. Gold mine of information and is never boring.
Thank you Ben for educating me, I have always been fascinated by Tiahuanaco, but never really knew what I was looking at or its significance. This video was a revelation, I cant wait to show this to my kids. See you in Cairo, Andy and Kylie.
What a video omg. I cannot imagine how much work it took to narrow down all that research into 1 hour. Thank you.
On a side note. I have been alive for almost 40years and to imagine that someone has dedicated 50 years of THEIR LIFE to such an incredibly detailed, respectful and eye opening research is astounding. I have mad respect for persons that have this ability and focus and do such a fantastic job with the evidence or even lack thereof.
Great work Ben. Thank you. Yet more evidence for an ancient civilisation and the Younger Dryas impact theory.
I would make that "impacts," as in plural.
Hey Ben, great presentation! In his volumes, does Posnansky address the stone working technique at Puma Punku, or was Tiahuanaco's age and place in the human timeline more his focus? He mentioned a much improved climate in the 2nd Period as lending itself to freeing up the people to build their astonishing city. It's hard to imagine drill holes and precision inlayed cuts would have escaped his two volume set. Even absent the concept of advanced technology in his day..."a little electricity" must have crossed his mind.
Fantastic video, Uncharted. I can't wait to see what they dig up soon!
I'm in awe of the history of this area. I also find it fitting that modern civilizations have been using the cut stone blocks of ancient civilizations in modern buildings and infrastructure for centuries. The same stone blocks that were once part of an ancient city over 10,000 years ago...at least! And still usable, wow...just wow. Of course other ancient sites have shared the same fate. How much do we owe to men like Professor Arthur Posnansky, with the foresight to record his impressions and experience. How much has been lost to mans fumbling hands? Best of all though is how much more we have to learn.
Thank you sir for the presentation.
So was Tiahuanaco ever connected to the Pacific Ocean or was it just a larger part of the existing lake??
Deep in the past, it was absolutely part an ocean, it still has species like sea horses unique to oceans
@@UnchartedX Yep, find intriguing illustrations indicating an inland seaway that was supposed to have split South America into two large chunks at one time. They each occur in books about Mu or Lemuria published by authors James Churchward and W.S. Cerve roughly a century ago. The sea would have spanned an area that begins at the mouth of the Amazon to an outlet from Peru relatively near current Lake Titicaca.
Thanks for bringing it back to south America. South America provides a glimpse into history, without endless generations of assholes pillaging & defacing anything possible and leaving only the near immovable objects.
I got so excited when I saw it was your video in my notifications! 🔔
Excellent video. You bring a scientific rigor to your youtube presentations that is rarely matched