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- What’s behind the recent looting and rioting in South Africa? And where does former president Jacob Zuma fit in? #AJStartHere with @SandraGathmann looks at the backstory.
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I'm a South African citizen and this is quality journalism. This is the reality of what has taken place in my country.
Righhhttt!!!!! Aljezeera is literally the only media outlet to cover this story with absolute honesty and accuracy!
Then we need to ask the question... What has happened to the quality of South African journalism? An honest answer anyone...
This is beyond Jacob Zuma support. This is years of government failures and corruption that was engineered years before the '94 democratic elections. Let me unpack it for you in summary.
1. Zuma is alleged to have pillaged the country with the Guptas. That is not necessarily true, the Guptas were friends with presidents Mandela, Mbeki and Motlante. They have been doing business with all those governments, including the ANC and DA organisations.
2. Before and after '94 white monopoly capital captured all central economic means. This left millions of Black South Africans without any economic means to participate in improving their personal lives, and or contribute to the country's GDP. The white monopolist have 99+ exclusive contracts with the state worth billions but then complain when a Black owned business is given a 5 year contract worth 20 million. The Zondo Commission is not looking at the actual state capture. In a country whose resources are largely in white hands it is surprising that rarely are there Whites investigated, and people like the Oppenheimers, Rothchilds and Ruperts the real capturers are not called out because they funded the political assassination of Zuma who tried to the change the course of Blacks in the country.
Yes. I'm Brazilian and I see that Brazil and South Africa have same problems. Both are so inequality countries. Brazil has a slave legacy and South Africa apartheid. Very interesting content.
@@palesamofube4308 China :)
What gave me hope is that all South Africans from all walks of life, all religions and all communities came together as one, as South Africans and are continuing to help each other in the aftermath of this terrible incident if one could call it that. My country is beautiful with a rich cultural heritage and we must celebrate that. We shall get over this too because we are patriots and loyal to our country South Africa.🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
A mouth like this, must get jam!!!
This is zuma's fault. ANC fault. Zuma's son fault. Ramaposa fault. 200 of my brothers and sisters in SA were killed. It no worth it. From Jamaica I love SA
Give credit to EFF
I'm South African and I was expecting to watch propaganda. But I must say this was really well done. Excellent work.
Let this be s lesson. There r nuggets of truth everywhere
@@armaniwebb4467 here's a nugget of truth, the taliban farm and sell most heroin in the world
@@kingsman3087 lmao. Thank you for this update from 2004.
I live in KwaZulu-Natal and experienced the riots. I hope Zondo sticks to his guns and investigate everyone to find the truth.
Unfortunately Zondo just wanted Zuma no one else!!
I think it's about to get even messier in KwaZulu-Natal before it gets better.
The president just announced he's finally going after the extortion racket in the construction industry.
Indian Construction Mafia pals of Zuma's.
Ramaphosa/Zondo et al. better stick to their guns and have balls of steel.
How many years have the zondo comision been going? How many people have they plased in jail?
@@agrid2608 When did he announce? Please send link.
@@renegaderogue6310 Check his speech from Sunday.
Sandra I love Start Here. we get a perspective of what is really going on with a less than 10 minute video. I think you are really smart. I hope you go on with this series as long as possible.
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I am South African , the world needs the truth , well reported.
Yes, documented with Video footage. Bodycams may become the rage
Does this story seem accurate?
@@benabele3552 mostly, somewhat, better than most MSM...
@@benabele3552 nope not accurate at all, there's a story missing here. My question is, why are we always the scum of the earth(blacks)?
@@toughgemini337 what’s missing?
I'm a South African it was a crazy week.
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The South African problem is so multi layered. It's political, it's social and economic. We are going to need each other to get out of this.
Good luck with that
Dividing the country into two like Singapore and Malaysia is a more feasible solution on the long run.
@@stardustbilermam1736 We are slowly moving towards a coalition government. People are going to have to learn to work together. The governing party is disintegrating and taking us down with them. I refuse. We have to be active citizens and fight for constitutional democracy.
@@palesamofube4308 no coalition government. The 2 largest are both stubborn and that DA leader is always complaining about everything even the good stuff. The DA has gotten more stubborn since maimane left. At least he was realistic
@@stardustbilermam1736 Then you are going to have to start imagining other alternatives. Unless you like what the governing party is doing right now
Looting is one thing. But the targeting of key infrastructure like ports, economic corridors, distribution warehouses, chemical plants, even threats to blow up highly flammable materials at an SA Breweries plant is not just normal looting and civil upheaval. I think there is some credence to some elements of this being planned.
Its called " TREASON!". Punishable by death in certain countries!
@@MrChenjinyuan see, state capture was a transformational process during Mandela and Mbeki tenure because a the Oppenheimers and Ruperts and other white monopoly capitalist including black politicians who suddenly became Billionaires. Its a crime to have a politician acquiring so much wealth. It became a state capture, resulted to a commission to investigate after the other faction lost power and your white capitalist lost to Gupta and associates. They went as far as capturing judiciary, sending Zuma to prison for ridiculous contempt of court, What would have happened if Zindo recused himself for 2 days of Zuma testimony? its a mess.
You are bigger than the problem my south african 🇿🇦 brothers from your Ethiopian 🇪🇹 brother we will surpass this challenging time and be a united africa
Thank you brother
Remember xenephobia? The Zulus hate u Somali and Ethiopian remember that
@@holdonimtalkingbrother8183 He's a bigger person than you, small minded guy . Real South Africans love their Somali and Ethiopian Brothers. You can't lump everyone together like that. It's like saying all Nigerians are Boko Haram and they kidnap Children. But you are too small to know that.
That's some love ahahahah
@@africanandproud6792 🙂🙏
27 years of corruption and ineptitude has led South Africa to this point.
Your statement is short and precise, but where can you find quality leadership in South Africa ?. It has such tremendous potential.
@@emscoffee3398 With the opposition party, the DA.That is a normal western political party. In a normal western country the DA would win by a landslide and the ANC would get no more than 1% of the vote.
The responsible capable people dont want anything to do with government
I'm afraid that you are being terribly short sighted. This didn't start from a mere 27 yrs by corruption and ineptitude. It started more than 300yrs ago by systematic deliberate eniquality policies.
27 years of corruption? 27
So the Mandela and Mbeki has we ridden with corruption or do you just hate thr fact that South Africa no longer lives in white imperialistic state.
We may hate the ANC and EFF but believe you in me WE WILL NEVER VOTE FOR THE DA NEVER
30 years of ANC and this country has gone to nothing.
Really? Have you investigated the economic data? From 1970s to 1994 SA economy was going downhill very quickly. Then in the mid 1990s it stabilised. From the late 1990s until the 2008 global financial crises (which coincided with Zuma administration coming to power) all indicators saw really good growth, decreases in unemployment, low inflation and a stable and competitive exchange rate. In fact the Monetary authorities had to take action to ensure that the currency didn't become too strong and impact exports negatively. The Mandela and Mbeki administrations were able to get debt to GDP down from 49% to the incredibly enviable 27% in 2008. Other measures that were put into affect during those admins also protected the financial sector in South Africa from the worst of the 2008 crises. So SA had a fairly good recovery from that for a country with a developing economy.But during that recovery the patronage network was being built that facilitated the raiding that happened during Zuma.
From Haiti to SA, we feel your pain!!
I think the origins of our pain is similar. The colonisers left a system of extraction, which even when they were kicked out was left in tact. The faces changed but these patronage networks still exist and extract wealth from the country. The only way to overcome this is by dismantling these systems of extractive power and replace them with inclusive systems where everyone has an opportunity to become successful.
Dismantling the system is not just the problem. The main problems is people/groups fighting for power. Then other countries get involved because they have special interests with a new government or failing one.
Haiti has been free for 200 years only 50 younger than USA
This sums it up truthfully. Well done Al Jazeera.
Give credit to EFF
I live in Gauteng. The situation is bad, it's like watching a horror movie. The ruling party doesn't care about our country. Finding a job as graduate is by luck. There's lack of opportunities. There's lots of problems which can be resolved by credible and capable leadership.
The DA would improve things on day 1.
BEE = inequality
Zuma = corruption
Both = Poverty
True story!!
On point analysis 👌🏿 I always trust 'Start Here' to give nothing less than detailed and clear breakdown. I hope my country heals after this
the reporter has lovely voice.
Reporter has more than a lovely voice
@@toughgemini337 A paragon of pulchritude.
She’s a sexy lady
@@keyboarddancers7751 indeed
It's disrespectful to label poor people as looters. There's plenty of poor people around the world who don't loot. These are thieves.
The looting started with racist murders of Somali citizens by Zuma supporters... This has been happening since Zuma took power.
haha no not 'poor' in the literal sense. They use that word as a euphemism for, *cough*cough. Something else.
White privilege talking.
@@badass6954 Don't let the media mislead you, most of the people who were looting are poor people who cannot afford groceries that last a whole month they saw an opportunity through all this turmoil.
Wow, most truthful depiction from worldwide MSM thus far, most refreshing and encouraging!
Accurate and quality reporting. Al Jazeera is quickly becoming my favourite news site.
🤲💕thank you for the well researched clip....am from my beloved south africa 🇿🇦
Indian muslim?
they have gone from having nebular weapons to a shortage of candles in just 27 years
@Keith M just fixed that (not a native)
Who are THEY ???
1st accurate foreign reporting on SA that I have seen (except that tribalism as a negative factor is not mentioned)
Common denominator
True very true
Tribalism is there but not that much really. This whole thing had less to do with Zuma supporters than opportunistic individuals doing what they do best. It's just like what happens when there's Xenophobic attacks.
“We will make the country ungovernable” says it all
80s speak. When apartheid needed to be toppled
Corruption did not start with Zuma and it also did not end when he left office.
Everything the rightwing said would happen to South Africa if the ANC came to power has come true.
I'm from SA and I now live in a developing Asian country. Here people are poor but they don't resort to violence and lawlessness.
Time for African countries to take responsibility and move forward in a new way.
true. people are tired of lies. today, RSA is led by a Billionaire businessman and we dont even know how he accumulated his wealth. People were ripped off of their savings and investments in Teba Bank, People were brutally murdered in Marikana. no arrest and no one cares. Zuma is jailed for contempt of court, a 70 something year old.
Wonderful presentation as always! So glad you did this story.
I'd suggest the team produce an episode focused on the factional dynamics within the governing ANC party. Should make for an interesting watch
Another problem is massive tribalism. Zuma is from the Zulu tribe and Ramaphosa is from the Venda tribe. They are traditional enemies.
You're lying they're not, it has nothing to do with tribes.
Think again
You are correct. Zuma’s supporters are all Zulus.
ZUMA IS THE WORST THING TO HAVE HAPPENED TO SA HISTORY.👎
WRONG WRONG,APARTHEID WAS THE WORSE,the national party laid the foundation for the state this country is in,south Africa is a violent,racist country,sadly you have reached a point of no return,the and had 25years to repair the basics ,but like most scarred freedom fighters/terrorist the word ENTITLEMENT PLAYS A HUGE PART IN THE DOWNFALL OF SOUTH AFRICA,so please you south Africans the are so proud of your country,its a sh....hole
@@claudewilliams273 you cannot blame apartheid and 27+ yrs later for where we at now.The ANC failed the country hopelessly. The after effects of Zuma's 9yrs is devastating to say the least.And post Zuma will be felt for years to come.
I love these sub 10 mins news videos. I normally detest watching any news clip over 20mins but if Sandra does an extended cut I'd watch!
Yeah, this is what happens when you hand the keys to your Ferrari to someone that has never driven a car...a wreck is going to happen!
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Sure, if the supposed Ferrari is a sanctioned, segregated, unequal society.
@@wandinxumalo2310 well said!✊🏾
@@wandinxumalo2310 All societies are unequal, sunshine. Grow up. And the newly franchised wiped their a££es with the most well developed country in Africa. The results are clear for all to see. Start your journey to the land of grownups by taking some *responsibility* for your actions for a change.
@@16sputnik7 Ah the good old boomer lol. Accepting the status quo by stating the obvious reality that all societies are unequal isn't growing up, it's disillusionment. You may not believe in an equal society, but perhaps more equal than the most unequal would be a good place to start. That's taking responsibility, not your distorted grasp on history and perverted sense of the present.
Education. Educated people don’t normally resort to violence. Educatation teaches us to be rational no matter what our brain thinks and what our views are. Stats prove it.
Have you ever gone to bed hungry?
@@ziggyd6323 you would have your answer if you bothered to actually answer my question. I take it it's a no.
Educated people don’t vote for the ANC.
Well Done Sandra and ALJAZEERA. As a South African it is refreshing to see well balanced, well researched journalism. Thanks. Will certainly like and subscribe.
Great journalism. You summed it up well
Additional problem is deliberate incapacitation of criminal justice system. Failing intelligence organizations, lack of crime investigation and prosecution skills. All done deliberately to ensure that those guilty do not end up behind bars. 😭 the beloved country
Strong review, Stay safe from Australia.
Thanks for this, a very well put-together high level of the situation going on here. As a South African this video makes explaining the situation to non South Africans a lot easier.
thank you aljazeera for unbiased reporting.
the situation in my country is heart breaking but i stay hopefull
Excellent, the best, informative, objective diagnosis of what is happening in South Africa...Al Jazeera putting the other major news station to shame, by a long shot. Well done ....
Came for information on South Africa and stayed for information on South Africa but also for the beautiful lady.
Waaw finally my country is here thanks for the cover you've explained excellently you didn't miss anything well done and keep it up 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Wow....what a surprise! Corruption in Africa?....FOLLOW the money 💰 😎.....
Poor people don't loot. Go and look at other countries. This was well orchestrated by the Zuma faction. Don't forget Zuma family wants to come back in power. They want to cause mayhem for the ramaphosa government.
Good reporting, keep it up👍
Excellent, as usual.
Best news broadcaster. They do their assignment very well
Great reporting
There is 400000 white in SA who live on the street...
Not only blacks.
400 000 I think it's exaggerated
Great reporting thank you.
Excellent report thank you!
Was waiting on this episode
Al Jazeera, the best news station by far....
Start here.
Now following
Sad that it takes a foreign news agency to report on our own news better than all the local news agencies combined
Well summerised 🇿🇦
It's not complicated, hunger is no excuse to loot, steal and destroy someone else's income.
@Snap CF Should you just die of hunger? When the criminal politicians get away with billions of dollars? Who is the worst criminal, the people who caused a few dollars worth of damage or the people who caused $34 billion worth of damage? Will the real criminals please stand up? S
What hunger if a smart TV is grabbed...
@@taniamans2026 Smart TV money can buy lots of groceries. ( I do not condone the behavior) Helpless people revert to chaos for solutions sometimes.
@@waynejennings7046 Stop making excuses for antisocial behaviour. The majority of poor people did not loot even though they also worry about how to feed themselves and their children.
@@bpj1805 I am aware that these protest are planned and directed by those in power. They are not random protests.
nice info
As a South African , two minutes in and you are so good at what you do, I have seen so many false reports and they call it the truth, you are detailed, thank you.
Thank you
Ive been following this segment and learn about other happenings in other countries now they covering my country,strange but this journalism is spot on.
Excellent synopsis and presentation.
Good work to the crew
To the addition, before riots took place, almost 30 trucks were burned down on the highways and govt kept silent despite the strong warning. This would not have happened if SA had a strong leadership and functioning police
GOVERNMENT KEPT QUIET BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE COLONIZERS WANTED. IT WAS BOUND TO HAPPEN.THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT S. AFRICA NEED ALL THE PEOPLE OFF THEIR LAND SPRAYING THAT COVID 19 STUFF IN THE AIR AT WILL.
I like the series i needed more
This is actually a good video on the subject.
These are the Lessons that Western Nations need to take to their Political Banks. INEQUALITY within their Populations on account of Oligarchic Control of the Government leads to Mass Revolt.
So what's the solution Patel??
@@musakgoete6071 I think a step in the right direction would be absolute transparency when it comes to lobbying and such
People are inherently unequal. If you try to force them to be equal, bad things happen.
@@sonicnofadz from each according to his ability to each according to his need
@Danny Archer agreed
Nice program
Power and corruption are like fish and water. That’s why no man should rule too long. The I see it, what’s happening in SF is not all bad. There’s still much hope for the people.
He's arrested for contempt of law not so called "R34 billion looted from the state".
South Africa is an ailing country. As an African living in Kenya i am very saddened to learn of all the troubles afflicting SA. Is there hope for my dear Africa? In Kenya we have sung of corruption for long- I must say- in absence of political motivations, the Ramaphosa government has done what no African country could ever attempt- jail a former president. I hope once the COVID situation is gone South Africa shall rise again. Looting and destruction of poverty is stupid- the economic pinch and repercussions of the same will be felt for years.
is" the legacy of Apartheid" still a thing after 30 years????
Yes it is.
@@thuthukanisjaka2597 How would you like to resolve it?Everything For Free????
@@anthonyanthony8460you already outed yourself as an Apartheid symphatizer. Therefore, I'll be wasting my time if I attempt to have a sensible discussion with you.
@@thuthukanisjaka2597 which country are you leeching off?
@@thuthukanisjaka2597 come on man! are you a man?
Big fan of this show
Wena Listen😡!! You guys put BEE in place and as a white guy I left South Africa 10 years ago and found a job abroad. This created a job for a previously disadvantaged person. I haven't looked back and will never travel back home to South Africa. I'm thriving and loving life 😎 so Voetsek!!!
We may be the most unequal, but our poorest are not the poorest in the world. Africans flock here for a better life.
Sad how we humans live. When will we the oppressed recognize evil .
This is an underground problem. Zuma is the instigator in this turmoil. Assumption has it that, because he refuses to go to jail, he threatened a sect of the underground clan by blackmailing them, which thing must have mobilized support for him at the crisis hour. Why were they keeping quite all along. These are the last kicks of a dying horse.
Ramaphosa is the instigator
Zuma spent all his time in office dancing that's why he can't come out with something meaningful for South Africa except looting
I can't stand that man.
I couldn't believe that south Africans we're actually entertained by that maniac.
While he looted with his cronies
@@lindiwephafudi6921 Agreed. He thought and still thinks about himself only. Whatever the cost to others.
alywas watching star here love it
1:42 "Zuma Must Fall"
Ramaphosa was vice president when zuma stolen our country dry. Why didnt he stoped it?
Is that President a clone struggling to carry out his programming 🤔
Thanks, finally substance. Hope the folks from VICE and BBC check this out to see how it's done.
racial/class segregation will always backfire motivated or not...
You want to change the divide...........educate, EDUCATE, EDUCATE!
If the population was educated the ANC would not be elected.
I would just like to add that Zuma started the Zondo commission, about a year before he was removed from office, and now he is one of the main people being prosecuted for state capture, which relates to not only his illicit dealings with the Gupta's, but also the French Tates arms deal.
The idea that the two factions in the ANC are “good and evil” is absurd… these men are two heads of the same snake…
So Zondo's commission is a waste of time?
Thank you Al Jazeera English .
Respect in interpersonal relationships means honoring and valuing other people even if you do not agree with their views or actions.
Respecting yourself is also important because it lays the groundwork for respecting other people. Being a respectful person is a valuable quality that will help you both personally and professionally.
Even when you disagree with someone, you can still talk to them and treat them with respect.
You might even find that by acting respectfully towards others encourages them to treat you with more respect!
I could not agree more!
There’s something going on in the US where disrespect is seen as a sign of strength or a badge of honor but to me, it comes across as cowardly and ignorant.
Yoh I’m speechless I don’t know what to say
WOW Al Jazeera
The deployed 2500 troops to start and then 25000 only later and the deployed 75000 for covert to keep people off the beach and in their houses.
I love the way how Sandra presents the stories..Right now she is my favorite presenter..I have a huge crush on you Sandra, Love from India.
An extremely accurate and objective account. South Africa thanks you, I thank you
Surely you mean "objective", it seemed completely neutral.
@@emscoffee3398 thank you. I've corrected it
Critical race theory and the principle of equity have led to this.
Yeah! I am sure Critical Race Theory is responsible for Climate change also and WWII and the death of Jesus and…
Nope
Lol nothing to do with that. This is just ignorant thievery.
Brought to you by the Inglorious Movement the ANC.
I like the presentation
The federal republics of the South, as we are indeed become a failed state since Zuma's presidency as off 2008
Our problems started with Mandela!! I'm struggling to understand why Zuma is everyone's scapegoat for the corruption!! Ramaposa was alwa beside Zuma but he's telling us about 9 wasted yrs ...eversince he's a president people are are dying everywhere because of his incompetences yet some people still don't see it
True he is ANC escape goat
@@lunganimthiyane9798 he escalated it, with a cabinet of obscure to mediocre ministers, to such a degree that he himself looked easilly disposable.
@@lunganimthiyane9798 true ,people were conditioned to hate Zuma. Mandela presided over the arms deal and he did nothing to reverse the colonial gains by whites, Ramaphosa presided over the closures of many black owned businesses that to contrary were formed during Zuma s tenure. Gupta were brought here by Mandela and mbeki. it's painful that people can't see that
Rich State, poor society. That's South Africa.
Its just the first time it has engulfed the more affluent areas
I'm starting to see a pattern here.
My political knowledge starts here