It is not the government its the families that control this land economically, come on who still believes government is in control we all know its names we never hear of because they own everything the Oppenheimer, Rupert's. They operate like mafia
My English grandparents, mother, and aunt lived in Port Elizabeth from early 1979 to the end of 1981 before returning to England. Part of the reason they did not stay was because of how upsetting they all found living with apartheid to be. My family is all white. My mother and aunt played with Afrikaaner, Coloured, and Black children, and did not understand why the White South African adults would hassle them. My mother actually learned to speak Xhosa fluently. I remember my grandmother telling me a story, that one day while in the family apartment, she was watching an enormous fire billow from the nearby Black community, and she called the fire brigade. She did not give them the exact address, but instead directed them to the nearest White house, in the hopes they would not stop to check whether the fire was actually within the White boundary. When the fire brigade arrived, they stopped at the boundary, hovered for about a minute, before switching off the sirens and returning to the station. Over a dozen people, including children, died in that fire. That was the moment my grandparents decided they could not raise their daughters in this country, even if returning to England meant my grandfather would be on the dole. Thinking of that fire still makes my Nan cry to this day.
Truth is Wakanda is behind in evolution thats why they should roam the dessert freely instead of running the country. Civilzed world has done a mistake leaving the africa to itself and right now Chinese play this game very well exploiting its resources letting the corrupted blacks play in the sandbox… One look at the gdp numbers or crime rate will be enough if you think otherwise.
@@davedave4986There is such a thing as common decency and preserving the lives of others. Should I walk on by and not give CPR to somebody who needs it because I’m not on duty and not getting paid.
I can explain why that happened. If you look at the documentary when they pan over the townships. When the people build their homes in the townships they build them out of sheet metal and wood that they find. They also build on top of each other so that families can stay together for a safety aspect. They also don't build them with things like fire trucks, ambulances and police vehicles in mind and so these types of vehicles cannot get to people if the fire or if a person is in a emergency. If you cant get your vehicle to the scene to help then there is nothing you can do other than go back to your station and help others that you can get to. Its a sad truth that most South Africans have to live with.
As a South African, it really does not have much to do with race but rather corruption, maladministration, nepotism, over-centralisation, ineptitude and mismanagement. Most private companies in South Africa are stable and able to grow through profit, despite tough economic conditions.
They were even separated by train tracks ,Highways , open fields . This made it difficult for people to move through the divided areas . And that infrastructure still remains and furthers the division.
I was in South Africa for 87 days in 1997. South Africa has a very serious problem that they do not talk about, which is language. The South African Constitution guarantees the right to be educated in your native language. When I was there there were 11 spoken languages down from 16. They were afraid that Nelson Mandela was going to make everyone learn English in school also the people born and educated before apartheid stopped, received traditional tribal educations. Therefore there are lots of adult Blacks who have no Western education and speak only their tribe's local language. Many Whites do not speak a native language such as Zulu or Xhosa (Pondo tribe) so communication is a mess contributing to poverty.
@@shisuiofthesharingan7621 The language barriers are also tribes. When I was in R.S.A. tribal warfare was still popular. R.S.A. is not a Christian country; it is more like a collection of inner-city gangs speaking different languages.
@@xmoreno3366 Nelson Mandela and the other politicians are all Zulu as far as I know. Their constitution requires that everyone be educated in the language of their own choice, this was written into their constitution to prevent Mandela from making English the official language. Africans was disestablished as the state language in retaliation against the Boers. Watch the movie Shaka Zulu to understand who is running South Africa now.
As a South African I can say that the divide between the rich and poor is still as great as before. As an Indian whose parents grew up in very poor neighbourhoods I am very fortunate to have the life that I have but while a few managed to have a “new” life after apartheid most have not changed
@@walterroux291 Excuse me for pointing out a presumably unintended spelling mistake, but if only it had been classicism rather than classism that had replaced racism... Seeing doric, ionic and corinthian columns everywhere would get tedious very quickly, but at least it doesn't harm people.
As a Hungarian who works 9-5 at local restaurant, i can tell you. It is really concerning of the massive social gap in south africa. I hope they will get better.
This reminds me when I was in cape town in 2018 and I saw the houses for the rich and the slums on the other hand for the poor when I was on a tour. It just shows how much the country is truly messed up.
As an “upper class” POC in South Africa, I can tell you, it is very strange. I go to a private school where 99% of the students are white despite 70%+ of the country being black.
There wasn’t universal international pressure, either. Margaret Thatcher and many other neoliberal and conservative politicians supported or ignored the apartheid system.
I am South African and I was lucky enough to get a decent enough education to allow me to earn enough to move out of the townships. Unfortunately though, not every black South African has this opportunity afforded to them and so the RSA government put in place laws to empower them. Problem is the white population go on global campaigns to investors saying how the system is now reversed because of affirmative action laws and land laws. Thus there’s no real follow through and black people remain marginalised
South Africa needs a lot of work but it will slowly grow into a newly developed country with innovation and massive tourism. So much potential and resources to one day be the next Dubai.
Never in a million years. There are insurmountable realities. Not one black African country can be held out as a positive example. Look at the CIA Factbook.
@@CthightAbsolutely right. There's no example of any African country turning around from becoming independent. In every case, the course is downhill, sometimes faster, sometimes slower, but downhill nonetheless. Haiti, not an African country, but black, went independent in 1804, and they're still a cesspit of poverty and mismanagement. They had more than 200 years to get it right.
It's a mind-boggling reality in South Africa. The other great divide is Sandton vs Alexandra. A highway (M1) divides Africa's richest square mile from one of the poorest neighborhoods in the country. There are countless other examples besides Cape Town.
I've lived there for a year and its really strange seeing Lamborgini's driving by "public braai's" in bushes where boereworst was sold by low income people.
True, but as someone who has lived in Cape Town, Johannesburg and Durban among other places, I have to say Cape Town has a Group Areas Act legacy that is extreme compared to other SA cities. (And yes they did use an extreme example in Strand even within Cape Town but an 80% white neighbourhood is not THAT unusual in Cape Town) In a place like Johannesburg a significant number of the affluent & upper classes are black. (Quantitatively now the majority) In Durban much of the affluent classes are black too. *In Cape Town, on the other hand, in many places you feel like you're demographically not in Africa.* (I will say though there is something journalistically disingenuous by VOX in not making clear that while the informal neighbourhoods are majority black, only about 10% of the population lives in informal areas as shown. In Cape Town about 20% of the population.)
So are all the comments that start with ‘as a (nationality)…’ bots or something? Starting to wonder how many comments on CZcams are actually from real ppl
First visited this country in 1985 , then again in 1995 I returned for the last time in 2014 what a shambles this country has turned into , I won’t be returning, such a beautiful country wasted 😞
“No one is born hating another person because of the colour of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.” Nelson Mandela.
But there's more to be gained by hatred than by love. Hate makes you win elections. Hate makes you rich. Hate often times gives you a strong sense of purpose.
I feel sorry for people now who are called racist, because they know nothing different. Every baby that is born has no hate or anger int hem whatsoever; it’s up to other people around them to inject their ideals into the child which they will grow up believing.
Okay? You just presented a phraseless comment. Diversity is not a strength, neither is it a weakness. Race is irrelvanat. Trying to push diversity, is racism, its not relveant weather its reverse racism. While unity in values is that matters. This is coming from a Conservative btw. Im a meritocrat, which means I root for individual values over any racial or ethnic difference. A person has the ability to control themselves, hence design their fate by merit. One should be judged on merit, as an individual, not the colour of ones skin. These are just basic moral values reflected in all major religions. A black person has no responsibility over anyone but themself but their family. They shouldnt be marginalised because some one that shared the same skin did something wrong. They dont have power over anyone else's actions but themselves'. A single person should not have to answer behalf of their community, or their 'race'.
As a South African, I believe that change will only come when our leaders decide to stop being greedy. We need leaders who really care about the people. I also think there should be a qualification or some sort of assessment a person should go through before being taken up to be a minister or any other position there is up there. We're doomed. But I still have an ounce of hope.
For those who think Geography is just memorize countries and capital cities, this is REAL geography. Please, keep doing this kind of videos. Greetings from an uruguayan geography teacher 🇺🇾
Well this is more history than geography but I get your point. Learning about different problems in different parts of the world makes you educated about geography
Since the minority white people has lost most of the political power, shouldn't they be allowed forming their own community? Wouldn't it be "culture genocide" not allowing white people to live together?
Can we also compare the contribution to South Africa? I'm pretty sure one side adds to the economy while the other side drains it. Also all the services you mentioned are paid for over and above the high tax levels
The ANC encouraged strikes that shut down the public schools. ANC senior officers also sent THEIR children to private schools or schools outside South Africa, so they got good educations. Those who had gone to the now closed public schools got nothing. This an educational hole which has been a burden on the country in to the present day.
@@Dutch_Uncle i'm not trying to be racist or anything, but it seems that every african nation that gain independent from the colonial power and now has native people as their leader are really messed up :( corruption, human rights violation, basically just a dictator
The philosophy that more education is a solution to Africa's problems has taken some recent hits. Young people have left educational institutions only to find that the employment opportunities are not what they had anticipated, and they are not happy. Perhaps "appropriate" education would be a better goal, even though the term has a ominous and dictatorial ring. Education is frequently seen as a way to get out of Africa and have a more abundant life elsewhere. It is probably a legend that there are more Nigerian doctors outside Nigeria than there are practicing in Nigeria, but people with portable profession and credentials recognized elsewhere can respond to the chance for a better life. A physician attempting to provide services in a hospital with intermittent electricity, food service provided by relatives of the patients, and nurses who are just a couple of notches above cleaning ladies can be tempted to go where medical standards are more like the ones experienced in medical school.
@@axellfonzie9067 I cAn't fully explain it but I can tell you one thing it's not a race problem just look up the history of Botswana it's basically the only African country that made it out of colonialism in one piece since it was a protectorate ruled by natives under the British and it's first president was a visionary and not a dictator the only countries richer than Botswana in Africa are south Africa and oil rich countries like equatorial guinea
This video does not mention the most crucial point for answering the very question asked in the title... The fundamental reason why overcoming borders and work towards the future has been so stagnant since the end of apartheid is the current government... It was a very symbolic and ecstatic moment when the ANC with Nelson Mandela overtook the legislation and for a few short years there was great hope for a bright future but corruption and incompetence have since become so rampant to the point of literal anarchy... The tragedy of this shell of a government that is the today's ANC cannot be understated...
As a South African, I think this video should've gone more into depth of the problems that cause this like corruption, over population, too much conflict between races. And we should also take into consideration that 8,4% of South Africa's population is white and 80,3% black
and according to SARS 20% of the population is carrying the rest of the 80% of the country as 80% of the populations do not pay taxes or water or lights etc... they demand (and its a human right not against it) but they want it for free. they forget there are costs involded for a country to build a infastructure or do ppl think things just magically appear with no costs involded. but same old problem the lack of education is the root of the majority of ignoraces.
ou and i forgot to mention something very important 80% will claim they earn peanuts hence they cant and wont pay but majority also do peanuts so how can you expect to earn 20 but you produce only 3 that means the company is forced to hire 6 more like him to produce the 20 and 20 get splitted 7 ways instead of one its a vicious never ending circle again education education eductaion can never say enough of it
@@julliandsg772 yh I agree with what ur saying but in South Africa you can be the best educated person applying for a job and someone else would get it just because of the colour of their skin, and thats the sad truth
As a Peruvian who was privileged enough to be born into the middle upper class and was able to immigrate to Canada, can confirm. It was a shock when I first looked up about my country and saw the condition that aboriginal people lived in. It wasn't the Peru that I knew and it was heartbreaking to see how the Peruvian government treats those that lived in the country beforehand
Bruh Its nowhere near as bad as in South Africa the situation in Latin America is completely different the main difference is separation by economic class NOT BY RACE although in many places indigenous people can suffer discrimination.
The township that you highlighted has only been around for at 15 years ........apartheid ended 29 years ago.Many of the inhabitants are also foreign migrants...I dont think this video is accurate.
The best way to make an educational video is to start with a table of contents detailing the sections so as to let one's mind be able to ponder beforehand which preps one to move from section to section. Everything all in one straight shot won't sink in, and no one wants to rewatch a video over and over. This is the same for reading material. One needs to skim through it first, bring to mind what one already knows and point to one's self what one doesn't, then restart from the beginning having that prep work already having trained the mind to know what to do when the time comes. It's the same for a paragraph in writing. The first sentence is the synopsis of what is to come, the middle the explanation, the end the summary.
I remember when I went to South Africa, we drove past a huge gated community in Cape town with a golf course in the middle. We'd heard earlier that there was a drought, so many of the townships didn't have access to clean water that summer... But the golf course had sprinklers flowing over it all day long. That pretty much summed up the situation across the country imo.
its complicated because those rich people also contribute more to the government through taxes. yes they are rich but also one rich person might contribute as many as 500 poor people.
Seeing a foreign perspective of South Africa is always very interesting, because living in Cape Town this stuff is so normalised and when watching these videos it’s always eye opening again
In University, I have classmates that can't afford data and others who are driving convertibles to school everyday. This is just an example that displays the growing inequality in SA. A decent second hand car will cost you at least R50k 1Gb of Data costs around R80 I think.
@@tsheposeanego5582 No, most college students are short on cash because of paying for loans, the rich kids go to private colleges so it's not like that here idk what that dude is on about.
@SWAT Kats you obviously have a complete lack of understanding where are those people going to live while apartments are being built? Where are they going to get the money from? How much rent will be charged for those apartments? You literally are just sayin that gentrification is the answer when actually you could result in an almost forced eviction of already marginalized people with low income
@Rusty Shackleford Maybe we shouldn't say what racist whites say. Cause we are Africans and we don't think like that. We are different and have fought to not let the isolation of capital infect us.
What I find striking seeing another documentairy is that poor whites are being discriminated by blacks……you would think people who endured apartheid would know different.
I worked in London with South African people and South African Companies. They were the best people I ever worked with and for. I am thankful to them. I worked with a Rhodesian Special Forces officer and he was a great leader. I never felt one ounce of racism. I'm American and I was born and raised in the South. So I know racism when I see it. Government get lots of foreign aid. Where is that money spent? Where is the accountability?
Interesting as a black African that's. Even my experience with white Americans. I think not having the history bagage is the reason why your experience with them is similar to mine with Americans.
The thing is our government cannot actually handle this huge influx of people that have come into the major cities in South Africa. I know the logical solution is to build houses for them closer into for example Cape Town but we literally have no money to do so.
That's not how it works. The economy runs on debt, SA's inflation is ~3-4 percent. Real growth is less than 1% and slowing. SA 10 year government bonds have a 9.2% yield (interest). These are very okay numbers. The government could issue more bonds to finance housing programs. Cape Town should drastically increase density to get the economic benefits of being a city. (With increased density infrastructure becomes easier to finance because there are more people relatively who need to finance it. Even simple things like buses become a lot more effective.)
@@wojciechkomar197 Yep this was the plan since the 1940s. The Anglos (led by Harry Oppenheimer) realized South Africa needed a multiracial oligarchy (and a multiracial middle class) to be stable in the post-colonial world. The Afrikaners having largely been an impoverished tribe themselves didn't want to give up the industrial state the Anglos had handed them and instead saw in Apartheid the alternative (to handing over like the rest of Africa and South Asia). By 1994 the negotiation for this multiracial oligarchy had been achieved. The constitutional arrangement along with BEE deals freezes the 19th century economy in place and keeps the old oligarchy (white business & black aristocrats) in along with members of the old black middle class moving up into the oligarchy. Sampie Terrblanche a late Stellenbosch economics professor once described this setup very well a few years ago: The Top 25 - 30% (roughly 20 million) are the elite and live first world lives. The 20% below them are neither here nor there (doing OK-ish financially) and live relatively well and first worldly, certainly by *global* standards, too. They in total make up the Top 45- 50%. The bottom 50% -55% are low income and live adjacent to the world of the Top 50%. The bottom 20% live in slums and the bottom 13% (still millions) live in the informal settlements shown. The informal/slums are almost all black/coloured. The middle & affluent classes are now 70% black. The white are heavily concentrated in the affluent classes, quite often as beneficiaries of generational wealth. Very little formal Capital goes to the bottom half, despite a massive informal sector. Financing is extremely limited to the "formal" economy, i.e. the oligarchs' stake. This despite the fact that the individual informal unrecorded business sectors are estimated to be worth billions annually and with bank funding could rival formal business if formalized, and one wouldn't want that apparently.
@rigorous mortis so what you saying if I was white and my parents and grandparents who stole the land minerals etc have now died that I should be entitled to what they stole yet you not willing to pay the price for the sins .
I'm From Ethiopia. And I just don't understand how someone in their own native land and in their ancestor's lands can be told where they can settle and where they can't. I feel sorry for my South African brothers and sisters. Hope things change.
The people of South Africa migrated to areas that had jobs (and they still are). The current govt built housing on the cheapest land, essentially recreating what had happened before. it's economic division thats recreating the seperation now. Isnt this happening in Ethiopia too?
@@scottyflintstone There is a gap between the rich and the poor in Ethiopia. But the thing is everyone is the same. We're all Ethiopians (black Ethiopians) and Ethiopia didn't have a history of segregation. No one was discriminated against because of the color of their skin.
That is not their land, they are migrants and they ilegaly settled on the outskirts of the cities, which of course were cites built by Europeans. And they expect the guverment to build them houses? Where else in this world the guverment is supposed to build you houses just because you exist? And then even if you have a house, how they can afford to pay the bills? Cause if they will aford the bills, they sure can afford to build their own houses. In short, you have a nice house that you payed for, and some migrants build some illegal shacks nearby, how it is your fault or the government's fault that you live in a decent house and the migrant is living in a shack?
@@abenezerethiopiawi Right... But South Africa and Ethiopia don't have the same history or trajectory, so your comparison of yourselves to us makes no sense
Well most of them got imported from other places in Africa, with busses, being promised lies by the leading people to secure votes, 25 years ago. Now, they are there, without any perspective and hope given to them and mostly playing the victim card. Well, thats at least what a Tanzanian uber driver told me once. He said those people are even too lazy to work. Which is why he and many of his fellows, and dudes from Mozambique, Nigerians etc. can be found as Uber drivers. The township people apparently don‘t want to put in the effort to work. As Uber driver at least. 😂
Same here in America idk what took me so long to realize that democrats promise, then never deliver, yet 90% of us still vote Democrat, look at Baltimore, St. Louis, Chicago, 100 years of empty democrat promises, what do we have to lose voting republican, they're not racist, they just expect the same from us as they do whites, not the soft bigotry of low expectations which is the democrats bread and butter
@@pork8829 So true, the downtrodden have no race, just a very real oppression. Till we learn to ignore the race baiting and work together, the rich and corrupt will always win.
Moving off-grid than paying tax to promote evil socialism is better choice. I would rather spend my wealth on me than spend it on promoting socialist laziness.
@@PierreWah when did I say that? They’re both African but if Drisscus takes an dna test his results are gonna say mostly European, if Israel takes a dna test his results are gonna say African making him more African
I was in South Africa only once (and not only in Cape Town) - and I loved it. But I will never forget riding somewhere on the coast and on one side of the highway there were slums built out of the sheet metal, and then over the next hill, there was a wonderful gated community, with clean and tidy gardens and pool. Really strange picture
@@matt7192 Definitely, Rich people from foreign countries come over, build, and the old-world struggles with new laws, and lands. Happens everywhere even before the british "colonized" africa.
as a human being from the planet earth and who has absolutely nothing to do with this i have to say that i don't have anything of value to add to the conversation
Before anyone puts my words out of context, I disagree with the way the country was managed e.g. apartheid and others. But it is indeed shocking to see that nothing significant happened in those communities. I think it's a dream for any entrepreneur to have that many people on such small land.
That happens everywhere. There is no "race separation" but money separation. If you have enough money, you can buy/live in best places, otherwise... you only can afford cheap areas.
Thank you for showing papers and for talking with people. Here in the US, there's long been a tendency to throw the word "apartheid" very blandly, without talking about how it happened, what the process was and what this process did to people. The details of this are vital to our understanding of what today's South Africa looks like.
@@ajax3017 exactly, I mean only white people have the right to come and occupy and take the lands from the natives by any means necessary, I mean how else would they learn. If in that process it leads to apartheid, genocide, who cares
i think showing people who are essentially victims of apartheid also helps to establish that this isnt some thing that happened and was done with by the 50s and 60s, apartheid didnt end until 1996, during living history for many many people, and its consequences are still very much felt by many people. i think it rly helps people to see just how real this all was because its easy to brush it off like 'oh well its happened now who cares'
@Joe Shmoe but there is still a large inequality in economic status and living conditions between the races. You seem to be in favor of “separate but equal” but it isn’t equal at all.
I, as a South-African, was taught all this in school. But the thing that stuck with me the most was a line from my father, who was raised during apartheid. He talks about social capital; how with each generation the divide widens. White people are often able to pass down inheritances of house, land and the education. How to use libraries and free resources, the ability to locate close to good schools, and budget for tertiary education. They are able to pass on the knowledge of how to act and work within society. Whereas the people so horrifically oppressed by apartheid often cannot. There is often no inheritance or land or advice on how to operate in within the economy. There is not always the ability to share with the next generation the knowledge of how to save money or invest. This social capital - the gains one gets from knowledge of how to operate as an equal and functioning member within society - widens the gap as generations go by. It is this lack of social capital which acts as one of the factors of the poverty trap. I hope for my generation that we can truly work towards righting the wrongs of the oppressive regime of apartheid.
In the United States everyone can have access to public library, some or most parents don't bother teaching their children how valuable their lives are living in U.S. There are County, State & Federal benefits paid for by us the taxpayers. BTW I was born in Mexico with no running water, toilet or electricity. I'm blessed in U.S.A.
@@adel19997 I grew up in the US, and I haven't been in a library besides my university library (which I pretty much exclusively used for research and classwork) since I was a kid. Maybe once quarantine is over, I should go to the library in my free time.
To fight through this. There needs to be one black person who is willing and skillful to compete against the white market. Seriously I believe this is the only way. Once that black person manages to have a strong enough economy to be seen as important in the town, the government will start working with him, then major changes are easy because the government is in control. But this will probably happen given enough time
There must someone from family who will break the cycle of poverty. If you will just continue to pass down blame on the system which is non-existent, you will not be abale to devise a way how to be at par with the other people. Initive must come from you and not doled out by somebody.
video thoroughly explains the role racial politics have historically played in the shaping of geographical segregation in modern South Africa, with numerous, connected examples: people watching: what does this have to do with race?
I don't know man, these Districts seem to be a world wide phenomenon. I see these Districts everywhere I go and I haven't been to Africa since the late 1970's.
As a South African I will say that the government is doing nothing to cut off this unequalities and this unequalities are getting worse as the years move on
I cannot fathom that with all the serious issues and deep structural corruption present in South Africa, that people focus on such superficial and symptomatic problems such as inequality. It is not the cause of a problem, it is the result
It hits hard when you learn about people being racially segregated and then see actual people who were affected by apartheid and are still alive. It just reminds you of how very recent apartheid was.
Same boat man my dad's south African and my mum is Scottish and I live in Scotland... visited SA a couple years ago and crime was through the roof very scary stuff. It's a wonderful place run by horrible people. The government is not encouraging change in poor neighbourhoods and not putting money to them. They are corrupt and stealing the money. They have load shedding sometimes no power 8 hours a day but still export power to Zimbabwe. Is a joke. SA needs a proper government who will use money Well and make change for such a wonderful country.
The way it should be. Nobody would complain about racism. We live with our own kind and culture. All happy because no other races to blame for their own downfall and stupidity. Laziness as well.
Economically it is a ineffective, due to its negative multiplier effects and its inefficiencies in occupational mobility as well as geographical mobility. It is better for a nation to integrate its cultures for more economic innovation - if more people with diverse backgrounds had access to investment and capital development then the economic objectives such as growth would rise and unemployment would fall.
@@mattfromswitchsports9679 Nothing you've said has anything to do with economics, it's woke nonsense plucked from thin air. Self-segregation is a phenomenon found the world over. Even when people work together, they tend to spend their free time with people of their own race-- especially when they're minorities. They tend to live in areas with people of their own race and culture. They tend to procreate with people of their own race and culture.
As a Polish person who has been to Cape Town before COVID madness, I have to confirm, that talking both with whites and blacks, no matter what, everyone was so open minded, friendly and energetic I can’t believe the SA authorities can’t use this combination to develop open, tolerant, and prosperious land for everyone. And another thing - remember about your painful past, but focus about future. I know what I say, because after 75 years, after the end of WW2, people of my land can live now peacefully with Germans, being good neighbors, friends, and working together for even better future (literally without any borders between our lands)
Greed and corruption has been the downfall of South Africa. So much opportunities for greatness . So much potential for living together, on a relatively equal economic level. Oh I should add that all the potential is there because of the people in South Africa. The people in this country are for the most, amazing. A couple of bad apples and the terrible government ruins it for everyone.
no offence but polish people are some of the most racist out there even though there is tones of you who moved to england (not a bad thing) the only times ive experienced racism in my 13 years of life was from polish people and people even say poland is a very racist country
Then you will have the other effect. Birds of a feather flock together. People cluster. That's why you have regions in a city like Chinatown, or little Italy.
Visiting South Africa (Cape Town and Johannesburg), I certainly saw the divide. It was amazing how you can go from one area of the country to another and it would be so different - night and day difference.
At least you were able to notice it - I'm South African currently living in Sweden and it's surprising how many people I've met here from all over Europe who have only holidayed in the tourist traps in Cape Town, so they've only been surrounded by wealthy (mostly white people) and they hardly find anything strange that the only black and coloured people they interact with in those spaces are service staff and workers. They wouldn't dare see more sides to South Africa because "it's too dangerous" but aren't willing to interrogate the complexity of why that is
Precisely. It is all very sad. And the integration between the different groups is no easy task, no doubt. But I so wish our south african politicians would've remained stead strong on that, instead of busy stealing from the coffers.
Go work hard and U 2 can live nice. It's not because we white we make money it's because we WORK. To live nice U must pay. Township is free. Whites don't want free
@@jasonhardy2880 it’s much harder to become rich simply by ‘working’ when you live in townships like these. as mentioned in the video, it takes long hours on transport to major job centres, and many of them don’t have enough money to actually go to college, whereas white people normally would. hard work is important for becoming rich, but you also need a whole ton of privilege and support, which is something a lot of black people don’t have.
@@jasonhardy2880 Listen I'm as conservative as they come and a South African as well. I agree hard work is important but townships are full of kids who aren't stuck there because of their own actions. They were born, their parents couldn't send them to school, and if they could their teacher was probably useless and our government hasn't done anything except lower passing marks every few years to make their stats look better. Black people in townships, even the ones who do go to their local school, leave school with far less knowledge or skills than kids in the typical Model-C or private schools. I don't buy into the full PRIVILEGE meme, but it's inarguable that work ethic is NOT the only factor holding people back. Very important to remember we have like a third of our country unemployed constantly. Even so there is a surplus of labour to the point where people are being hired just to wave flags at construction sites on the road by the government in many cases. There is unfortunately a huge amount of cultural and economic development that needs to happen under the stewardship of a competent and caring government but unfortunately we're stuck with the African National Cancer.
Always nice to see diff points of views! 😬 I'm South Asian but I loved the borders series Jonny did on this channel about partition and how both Pakistan and India face problems because of it today.
I always hear stories from my mom and grandma of ho they were just chased out of district 6 and how they had to relocate .She always tells me how she remembers the government coming with construction machinery and just knocking down their house and their neighbours
I'm so sorry for what your grandmother went through. My grandmother went through the same thing, she used to live in mixed race vibrant community called Sophiatown in Johannesburg in the 1950s, the government forcibly removed the residents and relocated them to Soweto. She also says so trucks and machines breaking down their houses.
this is cap. i live in south africa near that location. the people of the shacks don’t pay for the ground they live on, alot aslo steals power from the government. and also alot of them are immigrants. but other than that they are really good and hard workers
Look into how white farmers and their children have been treated in the past few years. Some of the stories I have heard, still stick with me because of how horrific they were
@@chadnuts look how black citizens in their land have been treated for HUNDREDS of years and are still treated today, you don’t have the morale high ground here
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OMG Im so early!
no
Vox more like
I’m gonna say it
Judge. Judge. Judge.
Silent independent thoughts.
As a South African I can tell you that the divide between the poor and rich is stark, it's gigantic
@Airbus A380-800 white is in the mix
@@PHlophe are white people in S. Africa still racist
Same in America.
@Airbus A380-800 think about that again.
@Airbus A380-800 ask them
As a person who’s never been to South Africa 🇿🇦 , I can confirm that I’ve never been to South Africa
i lost a braincell tryna understand watchu said 💀
@@Gabriel-jg5wh you must not have many
What a strong statement. You brave soul.
Ah yes, the ground here is made of ground
Same💀
As a South-African I would have hoped they mentioned how corrupt the government is and how they are the reason why we are spiraling out of control.
You must get Julius in there South Africa is the weakest for change
So true!
Its VOX. What did you expect?
Nah, this is about race baiting Voxers
It is not the government its the families that control this land economically, come on who still believes government is in control we all know its names we never hear of because they own everything the Oppenheimer, Rupert's. They operate like mafia
My English grandparents, mother, and aunt lived in Port Elizabeth from early 1979 to the end of 1981 before returning to England. Part of the reason they did not stay was because of how upsetting they all found living with apartheid to be. My family is all white. My mother and aunt played with Afrikaaner, Coloured, and Black children, and did not understand why the White South African adults would hassle them. My mother actually learned to speak Xhosa fluently.
I remember my grandmother telling me a story, that one day while in the family apartment, she was watching an enormous fire billow from the nearby Black community, and she called the fire brigade. She did not give them the exact address, but instead directed them to the nearest White house, in the hopes they would not stop to check whether the fire was actually within the White boundary. When the fire brigade arrived, they stopped at the boundary, hovered for about a minute, before switching off the sirens and returning to the station. Over a dozen people, including children, died in that fire. That was the moment my grandparents decided they could not raise their daughters in this country, even if returning to England meant my grandfather would be on the dole. Thinking of that fire still makes my Nan cry to this day.
Truth is Wakanda is behind in evolution thats why they should roam the dessert freely instead of running the country.
Civilzed world has done a mistake leaving the africa to itself and right now Chinese play this game very well exploiting its resources letting the corrupted blacks play in the sandbox…
One look at the gdp numbers or crime rate will be enough if you think otherwise.
Are fire engines and firemen's labor free?
Go read the story of the ants and the grasshopper.
@@davedave4986There is such a thing as common decency and preserving the lives of others. Should I walk on by and not give CPR to somebody who needs it because I’m not on duty and not getting paid.
I can explain why that happened. If you look at the documentary when they pan over the townships. When the people build their homes in the townships they build them out of sheet metal and wood that they find. They also build on top of each other so that families can stay together for a safety aspect. They also don't build them with things like fire trucks, ambulances and police vehicles in mind and so these types of vehicles cannot get to people if the fire or if a person is in a emergency.
If you cant get your vehicle to the scene to help then there is nothing you can do other than go back to your station and help others that you can get to. Its a sad truth that most South Africans have to live with.
@@davedave4986 So is this a race thing are you genuinely that devoted to greed?
As a South African, I say that, our greatest failure is that we could not establish a professional, functioning government.
"With malice toward none; with charity for all."
South Africa, and it's population, have learned this lesson, let alone implement it.
Functioning how? The state of SA was made by functional government to be where it is. If you want to reverse that over night, it would cause chaos
The idea that blacks and whites can live together is broken initself.
@@gauravsharma8280
idea that whites can live with any other race*
@@Centre14 then why are they all over our country
As a Chinese guy working in the government of South Africa, I have to say the government is horrbly corrupt.
And Chinese goverment stealing WEST PH SEA!
Take a look at your own crooked country before you make an observation of another. Go home.
@@airmanma shut up
@@samvillaesterph2951 let’s just say both countries are so ffffffffdddd!
@@airmanma he literally works in the SA gov
Just a small correction, the Afrikaners do not descend just to Dutch but also French Huguenot and German.
o.k
Yeah anyway the afrikaners descended from the Dutch
@@mehmeh1234 and French, German. Also from modern Belgium. Plus Portuguese and Scandinivian. And some degree of distant South Asian and African too.
@@EllliotJackRussel1 ah yes dutch
@@mehmeh1234 you're wrong.
As a South African, it really does not have much to do with race but rather corruption, maladministration, nepotism, over-centralisation, ineptitude and mismanagement. Most private companies in South Africa are stable and able to grow through profit, despite tough economic conditions.
you know youre lying
its DA run area. are u saying the prefect DA is corrupt? or are they only concerned with the needs of only the white voters?
@@thembalap2081How about you prove them wrong? You seem to have the answers.
echt zo mijn broeder
The US has a great divide also. I think you are making excuses for black South Africans. How many generations will it take to achieve equality?
The black politicians that rule the country seem to have some really nice houses in gated communities - just saying
Probably the same descendants who sold their own people to the rest of the world.
Yeah kick those corrupted clowns out. Get a government who will make the people and there country bloom.
@@harlzaotearoa7769 You mean like when the Brits were there?
As it should be in their own country .
They do and their kids go to schools overseas. They have got mega mansions loaded with all the latest German cars
the fact that it’s literally separated by a little pathway
This is the same in many cities all over the world. The wealthy live in neighbourhoods not far from ghettos. Very, very common.
@@EchoBravo370 frl
@@EchoBravo370 we’ll said 😞😞👍
@@EchoBravo370 One gets used to it tbh, it's a part of life in some areas
They were even separated by train tracks ,Highways , open fields . This made it difficult for people to move through the divided areas . And that infrastructure still remains and furthers the division.
As a swiss living in switzerland i can confirm nothing
Good point
I agree
I was in South Africa for 87 days in 1997. South Africa has a very serious problem that they do not talk about, which is language. The South African Constitution guarantees the right to be educated in your native language. When I was there there were 11 spoken languages down from 16. They were afraid that Nelson Mandela was going to make everyone learn English in school also the people born and educated before apartheid stopped, received traditional tribal educations. Therefore there are lots of adult Blacks who have no Western education and speak only their tribe's local language. Many Whites do not speak a native language such as Zulu or Xhosa (Pondo tribe) so communication is a mess contributing to poverty.
That's not true language barrier is not a factor in today's modern world it was in the 1900's but not today
@@shisuiofthesharingan7621 The language barriers are also tribes. When I was in R.S.A. tribal warfare was still popular. R.S.A. is not a Christian country; it is more like a collection of inner-city gangs speaking different languages.
they need to use both zulu and english
@@xmoreno3366 Nelson Mandela and the other politicians are all Zulu as far as I know. Their constitution requires that everyone be educated in the language of their own choice, this was written into their constitution to prevent Mandela from making English the official language. Africans was disestablished as the state language in retaliation against the Boers. Watch the movie Shaka Zulu to understand who is running South Africa now.
@@Eusebeia7You really need to get your facts straight.
As a South African I can say that the divide between the rich and poor is still as great as before. As an Indian whose parents grew up in very poor neighbourhoods I am very fortunate to have the life that I have but while a few managed to have a “new” life after apartheid most have not changed
Seems like classicism just replaced racism.
@@walterroux291 usually how it goes. Racism and classism switch places depending on the needs of the elite. La roue tourne
@@walterroux291 Excuse me for pointing out a presumably unintended spelling mistake, but if only it had been classicism rather than classism that had replaced racism... Seeing doric, ionic and corinthian columns everywhere would get tedious very quickly, but at least it doesn't harm people.
wait pardon me so.. are you south asian or south african?
Where you born in south africa?
Thank you for covering this.
Thanks for commenting, Beast
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As a Hungarian who works 9-5 at local restaurant, i can tell you. It is really concerning of the massive social gap in south africa. I hope they will get better.
My grandfather is Hungarian 😊
Violence is in their dna it won't change
Weird how they never build their own society 🤣 just beg you for yours.
Lots of murders in South Africa
@@123lowp as in other countries
This reminds me when I was in cape town in 2018 and I saw the houses for the rich and the slums on the other hand for the poor when I was on a tour. It just shows how much the country is truly messed up.
Have you been to New York ?? It’s in America , Have your hear about Manhattan where the billionaire live and Bronk where the poor people are ?.
@@louis-we3yiGeez, I wonder which side you're on to make such a comment?
And How does rich and poor correlate to black and white?
@@louis-we3yi it is messed up. I agree with you that life isn't meant to be equal.
@@timmiller6868 not yet
As an “upper class” POC in South Africa, I can tell you, it is very strange. I go to a private school where 99% of the students are white despite 70%+ of the country being black.
Kinda weird that you choose to go to a minority school even though majority of schools are black. Something must be better about these white schools?
You are a lucky man
Then goto school where black are majority
@@ypey1 😂😂🤣🤣🤣 u know what happened
@@ypey1 how
The most shocking part of this, aside from it having happened at all, is just how recently this ended. It's gonna take ages to right these wrongs
ended? this is still going on all over the country
@@gidd world*
@@gidd I meant the official Apartheid movement, not the currently still existing fallout
There wasn’t universal international pressure, either. Margaret Thatcher and many other neoliberal and conservative politicians supported or ignored the apartheid system.
I am South African and I was lucky enough to get a decent enough education to allow me to earn enough to move out of the townships. Unfortunately though, not every black South African has this opportunity afforded to them and so the RSA government put in place laws to empower them. Problem is the white population go on global campaigns to investors saying how the system is now reversed because of affirmative action laws and land laws. Thus there’s no real follow through and black people remain marginalised
South Africa needs a lot of work but it will slowly grow into a newly developed country with innovation and massive tourism. So much potential and resources to one day be the next Dubai.
Never in a million years. There are insurmountable realities. Not one black African country can be held out as a positive example. Look at the CIA Factbook.
Never going to happen 😁
Nope. I think they will crumble and getting poorer.
@@CthightAbsolutely right. There's no example of any African country turning around from becoming independent. In every case, the course is downhill, sometimes faster, sometimes slower, but downhill nonetheless.
Haiti, not an African country, but black, went independent in 1804, and they're still a cesspit of poverty and mismanagement. They had more than 200 years to get it right.
All the potential has gone to waste. South Africa is a sinking ship.
I like seeing the videos of what Johannesburg looks like now vs what it looked like in the 70s
It's a mind-boggling reality in South Africa. The other great divide is Sandton vs Alexandra. A highway (M1) divides Africa's richest square mile from one of the poorest neighborhoods in the country. There are countless other examples besides Cape Town.
The same could be said for Durban
Alexandra*
I've lived there for a year and its really strange seeing Lamborgini's driving by "public braai's" in bushes where boereworst was sold by low income people.
ya lalla
True, but as someone who has lived in Cape Town, Johannesburg and Durban among other places, I have to say Cape Town has a Group Areas Act legacy that is extreme compared to other SA cities.
(And yes they did use an extreme example in Strand even within Cape Town but an 80% white neighbourhood is not THAT unusual in Cape Town)
In a place like Johannesburg a significant number of the affluent & upper classes are black. (Quantitatively now the majority)
In Durban much of the affluent classes are black too.
*In Cape Town, on the other hand, in many places you feel like you're demographically not in Africa.*
(I will say though there is something journalistically disingenuous by VOX in not making clear that while the informal neighbourhoods are majority black, only about 10% of the population lives in informal areas as shown. In Cape Town about 20% of the population.)
At least our government is working super hard and doing everything in their power to fix these issues.
Oh wait.....
Lol
This right here
SA politicians are too busy having each other assassinated over drug money to come up with good policy decisions, unfortunately
Unfortunately, the people who want to fix these problem usually end up 6 ft under...
Haha you have jokes neh 🤣🤣🤣
So are all the comments that start with ‘as a (nationality)…’ bots or something? Starting to wonder how many comments on CZcams are actually from real ppl
That’s something a bot would say 🤔
First visited this country in 1985 , then again in 1995 I returned for the last time in 2014 what a shambles this country has turned into , I won’t be returning, such a beautiful country wasted 😞
Not wasted, liberated.
@@etnomadaul Yes liberated to dust. Making up enemies and then call em opressors to "even the score" with taking the land from them works how good?
As goes the white man so goes his world. There are no historic exceptions.
“No one is born hating another person because of the colour of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.” Nelson Mandela.
@Akash Jacob troll detected
But there's more to be gained by hatred than by love. Hate makes you win elections. Hate makes you rich. Hate often times gives you a strong sense of purpose.
@Akash Jacob what do you mean some people are superior than others?
@Akash Jacob How does living standard correlate with superiority?
I feel sorry for people now who are called racist, because they know nothing different. Every baby that is born has no hate or anger int hem whatsoever; it’s up to other people around them to inject their ideals into the child which they will grow up believing.
I can't believe it only ended in the mid-90's. Seems so recent. And people try to say we're past racism now. The problems still persist.
This is still going on in America
Google( "Bell pottinger South africa) its mind blowing 🤯
The hatred that exists between both the communities is just heartbreaking
@@imcloud305 BLM's concern is the Upliftment of African -American population, what has it got to do with South-Africa
@@blackpathos5791 oh ok
I thought they mean
BLACK LIVES MATTER
Not
AFRICAN AMERICAN LIVES MATTER
They should really change the name
"But diversity is our strenght"
its a lack of education that is your strength. because you cant look at the facts. its easier to play the victim.
Okay? You just presented a phraseless comment.
Diversity is not a strength, neither is it a weakness. Race is irrelvanat. Trying to push diversity, is racism, its not relveant weather its reverse racism. While unity in values is that matters. This is coming from a Conservative btw.
Im a meritocrat, which means I root for individual values over any racial or ethnic difference. A person has the ability to control themselves, hence design their fate by merit. One should be judged on merit, as an individual, not the colour of ones skin. These are just basic moral values reflected in all major religions. A black person has no responsibility over anyone but themself but their family. They shouldnt be marginalised because some one that shared the same skin did something wrong. They dont have power over anyone else's actions but themselves'. A single person should not have to answer behalf of their community, or their 'race'.
Yeah during the culture booms of the 1960s - 1990s but not anymore
@@WilliamLi-nd4lz finally, someone who actually has a brain, thank you. People are just people; race is just a concept made to divide us.
As a South African, I believe that change will only come when our leaders decide to stop being greedy. We need leaders who really care about the people. I also think there should be a qualification or some sort of assessment a person should go through before being taken up to be a minister or any other position there is up there. We're doomed. But I still have an ounce of hope.
it seems ur government cares more about Pallyztinians than their own people
For those who think Geography is just memorize countries and capital cities, this is REAL geography. Please, keep doing this kind of videos.
Greetings from an uruguayan geography teacher 🇺🇾
I honestly didn't know that 😩 🇺🇸
@@christiant.1113 I recommend you the work of William Bunge (an american geographer) and Yves Lacoste (a french geographer).
Well this is more history than geography but I get your point. Learning about different problems in different parts of the world makes you educated about geography
agreed
There is real geography?
As a South African, I can tell you the differences are huge, but the city’s are becoming bigger than their regions. Mega city
Fortune Mabaso peace be unto you. For a word of encouragement please listen to Pastor Jennings (Truth of God Broadcast)
Mega city like from the movie Judge?
Hello 👋
😂😂😂 pointless comment cities getting bigger wow 👌
Cape Town looks a lot like Chicago does today…
Not even close. Chicago doesn’t have slums to the same degree as CT
@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202 I agree
I remember this getting world detention in the '80s. I was ignorant to it. I was only in my early 20s. completing utter shame on Britain.😢
Thanks for covering this story. It feels it's gonna take generations to fix the lasting effects of apartheid
Because I'm not famous like other singers that's why no one see my singing videos. Just see once❤..,,
Since the minority white people has lost most of the political power, shouldn't they be allowed forming their own community? Wouldn't it be "culture genocide" not allowing white people to live together?
@@johnanon372 no it isn't. Stop whitespainling apartheid.
@@johnanon372 if you want to stay in your own community you can stay or go back to Europe.
@@johnniewaiker6203 stop being racist towards white South Africans
Yes, this is why education is so important. The ANC after thirty years of rule have not been able to do much except line their own pockets.
Can we also compare the contribution to South Africa? I'm pretty sure one side adds to the economy while the other side drains it.
Also all the services you mentioned are paid for over and above the high tax levels
The ANC encouraged strikes that shut down the public schools. ANC senior officers also sent THEIR children to private schools or schools outside South Africa, so they got good educations. Those who had gone to the now closed public schools got nothing. This an educational hole which has been a burden on the country in to the present day.
@@Dutch_Uncle i'm not trying to be racist or anything, but it seems that every african nation that gain independent from the colonial power and now has native people as their leader are really messed up :( corruption, human rights violation, basically just a dictator
The philosophy that more education is a solution to Africa's problems has taken some recent hits. Young people have left educational institutions only to find that the employment opportunities are not what they had anticipated, and they are not happy. Perhaps "appropriate" education would be a better goal, even though the term has a ominous and dictatorial ring. Education is frequently seen as a way to get out of Africa and have a more abundant life elsewhere.
It is probably a legend that there are more Nigerian doctors outside Nigeria than there are practicing in Nigeria, but people with portable profession and credentials recognized elsewhere can respond to the chance for a better life. A physician attempting to provide services in a hospital with intermittent electricity, food service provided by relatives of the patients, and nurses who are just a couple of notches above cleaning ladies can be tempted to go where medical standards are more like the ones experienced in medical school.
@@axellfonzie9067 I cAn't fully explain it but I can tell you one thing it's not a race problem just look up the history of Botswana it's basically the only African country that made it out of colonialism in one piece since it was a protectorate ruled by natives under the British and it's first president was a visionary and not a dictator the only countries richer than Botswana in Africa are south Africa and oil rich countries like equatorial guinea
This video does not mention the most crucial point for answering the very question asked in the title... The fundamental reason why overcoming borders and work towards the future has been so stagnant since the end of apartheid is the current government... It was a very symbolic and ecstatic moment when the ANC with Nelson Mandela overtook the legislation and for a few short years there was great hope for a bright future but corruption and incompetence have since become so rampant to the point of literal anarchy... The tragedy of this shell of a government that is the today's ANC cannot be understated...
As a South African, I think this video should've gone more into depth of the problems that cause this like corruption, over population, too much conflict between races.
And we should also take into consideration that 8,4% of South Africa's population is white and 80,3% black
and according to SARS 20% of the population is carrying the rest of the 80%
of the country as 80% of the populations do not pay taxes or water or lights etc...
they demand (and its a human right not against it) but they want it for free.
they forget there are costs involded for a country to build a infastructure
or do ppl think things just magically appear with no costs involded.
but same old problem the lack of education is the root of the majority of ignoraces.
ou and i forgot to mention something very important
80% will claim they earn peanuts hence they cant and wont pay
but majority also do peanuts so how can you expect to earn 20 but you produce only 3
that means the company is forced to hire 6 more like him to produce the 20 and 20 get splitted 7 ways instead of one
its a vicious never ending circle
again education education eductaion can never say enough of it
@@julliandsg772 yh I agree with what ur saying but in South Africa you can be the best educated person applying for a job and someone else would get it just because of the colour of their skin, and thats the sad truth
Having these two groups separate works best, this is also common in many parts of the US.
Come on dude South Africa is not overpopulated...Not even close
You can see this in several Latin American countries as well, namely Peru and Ecuador with strong indigenous populations.
Yep😔
As a Peruvian who was privileged enough to be born into the middle upper class and was able to immigrate to Canada, can confirm. It was a shock when I first looked up about my country and saw the condition that aboriginal people lived in. It wasn't the Peru that I knew and it was heartbreaking to see how the Peruvian government treats those that lived in the country beforehand
Of course it’s all the EU’s fault
Bruh Its nowhere near as bad as in South Africa the situation in Latin America is completely different the main difference is separation by economic class NOT BY RACE although in many places indigenous people can suffer discrimination.
ya thats all correct
The township that you highlighted has only been around for at 15 years ........apartheid ended 29 years ago.Many of the inhabitants are also foreign migrants...I dont think this video is accurate.
The best way to make an educational video is to start with a table of contents detailing the sections so as to let one's mind be able to ponder beforehand which preps one to move from section to section. Everything all in one straight shot won't sink in, and no one wants to rewatch a video over and over. This is the same for reading material. One needs to skim through it first, bring to mind what one already knows and point to one's self what one doesn't, then restart from the beginning having that prep work already having trained the mind to know what to do when the time comes. It's the same for a paragraph in writing. The first sentence is the synopsis of what is to come, the middle the explanation, the end the summary.
I remember when I went to South Africa, we drove past a huge gated community in Cape town with a golf course in the middle. We'd heard earlier that there was a drought, so many of the townships didn't have access to clean water that summer... But the golf course had sprinklers flowing over it all day long. That pretty much summed up the situation across the country imo.
@Subhuman Manlet Mr old pale Johnny?.
The golf course uses borehole water...
@@janco333 so? Isn't that the same as a well? Yknow, wells that people drink from?
there it is
its complicated because those rich people also contribute more to the government through taxes. yes they are rich but also one rich person might contribute as many as 500 poor people.
Seeing a foreign perspective of South Africa is always very interesting, because living in Cape Town this stuff is so normalised and when watching these videos it’s always eye opening again
It’s not normalized it is normal
America has this going on too, but to a lesser extent.
* the greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing people he didn't exist.
Often it takes an outsider to truly "notice" a problem.
@@jamesharden1122 Correct. The Monopolists are busy ossifying the economy. Beverly Hills and Skid Row. New Jack City for the masses
Yeah America is the same way. I am Native and we live on reservations
Looking at the current situation in South Africa, it seems that further separation is necessary.
In University, I have classmates that can't afford data and others who are driving convertibles to school everyday.
This is just an example that displays the growing inequality in SA.
A decent second hand car will cost you at least R50k
1Gb of Data costs around R80 I think.
NFSAS
to be fair im from the states and it’s the same here 😅
@@americanroyalist6905 is it like that all over the states?
@@tsheposeanego5582 No, most college students are short on cash because of paying for loans, the rich kids go to private colleges so it's not like that here idk what that dude is on about.
@@KrustyKrabPizza22 and that’s okay you’re happy with the inequality???
The real truth is that people from Namzamo want to get out of there and never look back and go to the other side without ever looking back.
Can't blame them.
@@janepatton8100 That's right. It's their leaders who are to be blamed for using them for their votes but not caring for their development
AMEN
@SWAT Kats you obviously have a complete lack of understanding where are those people going to live while apartments are being built? Where are they going to get the money from? How much rent will be charged for those apartments?
You literally are just sayin that gentrification is the answer when actually you could result in an almost forced eviction of already marginalized people with low income
@SWAT Kats you clearly do not know the situation here :D
I didn’t learn anything such as this when l went to school.😳Not surprised at all considering who was authorizing textbooks!
DONT EVER TELL ME APAERTHEID IS DONE WE STILL SUFFERING THE EFFECTS THERE OF VIVA EFF KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING
racist
@@lightningRatPack aren't we all
@@nigeldavis3740 Some more than others.
As a South African whose parents lost their homes in Cape Town because of this Group Areas Act, I can say I relate to and appreciate this video.
I’m sorry that your parents had to go through that. It never should have happened 😔This world is messed up
Same
Why are south african farmers under attack?
@@selcukdilek4656 which farmer did you see under attack?
@@mamokgethimphahlele4508 it is a well known topic. But it is mostlt white farmers that end up being killed. There are some news reports.
Not a single White person got interviewed in this video. Not a surprise to me.
Diversity
They don’t want to tell the truth and want to hurt peoples Feelings especially whites.
Thank you ... the fact that it makes it seem like white ppl are bad isn't true ...
They can't have a little thing like truth spoil their facts can they ....
What would a white person say in this video? Lol
Why don`t you show employment rate on the both sides of the fence?
Yeah, the government has quotas for what races are employed, white people and Asians are strongly discriminated against
As a South African myself, I can tell you this video speaks volumes.
Ok
A 10 minute video when she just needed to say "capitalism"
@Rusty Shackleford Maybe we shouldn't say what racist whites say. Cause we are Africans and we don't think like that. We are different and have fought to not let the isolation of capital infect us.
@@shrewms5225 The Apartheid part needed to be explained.
@Rusty Shackleford just stop.
Some scars of history need more than time to heal, they need work as well.
And we need to be taught about them so history doesn't repeat itself
@@DyslexicMitochondria Cool username. Cool channeI too
GHM
Like... a revolution or a war?!
@@ypey1 Lol no, I meant changes to land development, providing housing, higher education and creating economic opportunities for non-white people.
As an American who's been to South Africa even though apartheid ended over 30 years ago it is still in practice to some degree or another
What I find striking seeing another documentairy is that poor whites are being discriminated by blacks……you would think people who endured apartheid would know different.
It is not really in practice blud. Black people actually have a systematic advantage due to the BEE laws.
I worked in London with South African people and South African Companies.
They were the best people I ever worked with and for.
I am thankful to them.
I worked with a Rhodesian Special Forces officer and he was a great leader. I never felt one ounce of racism.
I'm American and I was born and raised in the South. So I know racism when I see it.
Government get lots of foreign aid. Where is that money spent? Where is the accountability?
Erm it's stolen because black gangsters run the place? You don't know that? 😂😂😂
Lots of racism against whites these days. Yet, many people are silent about it.
Interesting as a black African that's. Even my experience with white Americans. I think not having the history bagage is the reason why your experience with them is similar to mine with Americans.
The thing is our government cannot actually handle this huge influx of people that have come into the major cities in South Africa. I know the logical solution is to build houses for them closer into for example Cape Town but we literally have no money to do so.
That's not how it works. The economy runs on debt, SA's inflation is ~3-4 percent. Real growth is less than 1% and slowing. SA 10 year government bonds have a 9.2% yield (interest). These are very okay numbers. The government could issue more bonds to finance housing programs. Cape Town should drastically increase density to get the economic benefits of being a city. (With increased density infrastructure becomes easier to finance because there are more people relatively who need to finance it. Even simple things like buses become a lot more effective.)
@meow purr Oligarchy?
And still controlled by the white man and white monopoly companies
@@wojciechkomar197 Yep this was the plan since the 1940s.
The Anglos (led by Harry Oppenheimer) realized South Africa needed a multiracial oligarchy (and a multiracial middle class) to be stable in the post-colonial world.
The Afrikaners having largely been an impoverished tribe themselves didn't want to give up the industrial state the Anglos had handed them and instead saw in Apartheid the alternative (to handing over like the rest of Africa and South Asia).
By 1994 the negotiation for this multiracial oligarchy had been achieved.
The constitutional arrangement along with BEE deals freezes the 19th century economy in place and keeps the old oligarchy (white business & black aristocrats) in along with members of the old black middle class moving up into the oligarchy.
Sampie Terrblanche a late Stellenbosch economics professor once described this setup very well a few years ago:
The Top 25 - 30% (roughly 20 million) are the elite and live first world lives.
The 20% below them are neither here nor there (doing OK-ish financially) and live relatively well and first worldly, certainly by *global* standards, too.
They in total make up the Top 45- 50%.
The bottom 50% -55% are low income and live adjacent to the world of the Top 50%.
The bottom 20% live in slums and the bottom 13% (still millions) live in the informal settlements shown.
The informal/slums are almost all black/coloured.
The middle & affluent classes are now 70% black.
The white are heavily concentrated in the affluent classes, quite often as beneficiaries of generational wealth.
Very little formal Capital goes to the bottom half, despite a massive informal sector. Financing is extremely limited to the "formal" economy, i.e. the oligarchs' stake.
This despite the fact that the individual informal unrecorded business sectors are estimated to be worth billions annually and with bank funding could rival formal business if formalized, and one wouldn't want that apparently.
@rigorous mortis so what you saying if I was white and my parents and grandparents who stole the land minerals etc have now died that I should be entitled to what they stole yet you not willing to pay the price for the sins .
I'm From Ethiopia. And I just don't understand how someone in their own native land and in their ancestor's lands can be told where they can settle and where they can't. I feel sorry for my South African brothers and sisters. Hope things change.
The people of South Africa migrated to areas that had jobs (and they still are). The current govt built housing on the cheapest land, essentially recreating what had happened before. it's economic division thats recreating the seperation now. Isnt this happening in Ethiopia too?
Things changed alright but it just got worse
@@scottyflintstone There is a gap between the rich and the poor in Ethiopia. But the thing is everyone is the same. We're all Ethiopians (black Ethiopians) and Ethiopia didn't have a history of segregation. No one was discriminated against because of the color of their skin.
That is not their land, they are migrants and they ilegaly settled on the outskirts of the cities, which of course were cites built by Europeans. And they expect the guverment to build them houses? Where else in this world the guverment is supposed to build you houses just because you exist? And then even if you have a house, how they can afford to pay the bills? Cause if they will aford the bills, they sure can afford to build their own houses.
In short, you have a nice house that you payed for, and some migrants build some illegal shacks nearby, how it is your fault or the government's fault that you live in a decent house and the migrant is living in a shack?
@@abenezerethiopiawi Right... But South Africa and Ethiopia don't have the same history or trajectory, so your comparison of yourselves to us makes no sense
One people build. One people destroy.
It's a shame if South Africa leaders who are black can't make living comfortable for their brothers
They live on the rich side. They don't care about them
Preach my brother!
I just wish we could try to take a white president again
They can, they choose not to
Well most of them got imported from other places in Africa, with busses, being promised lies by the leading people to secure votes, 25 years ago. Now, they are there, without any perspective and hope given to them and mostly playing the victim card. Well, thats at least what a Tanzanian uber driver told me once. He said those people are even too lazy to work. Which is why he and many of his fellows, and dudes from Mozambique, Nigerians etc. can be found as Uber drivers. The township people apparently don‘t want to put in the effort to work. As Uber driver at least. 😂
Our Country Still Needs Leadership That Puts People First & Not Just Claims To Do So. 🇿🇦
Also one that stops pitting races against each other and isn't totally corrupt.
Basically, anyone that isn't the ANC.
Same here in America idk what took me so long to realize that democrats promise, then never deliver, yet 90% of us still vote Democrat, look at Baltimore, St. Louis, Chicago, 100 years of empty democrat promises, what do we have to lose voting republican, they're not racist, they just expect the same from us as they do whites, not the soft bigotry of low expectations which is the democrats bread and butter
@@pork8829 So true, the downtrodden have no race, just a very real oppression. Till we learn to ignore the race baiting and work together, the rich and corrupt will always win.
Moving off-grid than paying tax to promote evil socialism is better choice. I would rather spend my wealth on me than spend it on promoting socialist laziness.
I’m here because of the Israel Adesanya and Dricus beef, trying to understand more about what they are talking about.
@@The-Powahdricus is not native to Africa
@@jamesbuchman867 He is the first african born and living champ. But the color of his skin is wrong? Sounds racist to me.
@@PierreWah when did I say that? They’re both African but if Drisscus takes an dna test his results are gonna say mostly European, if Israel takes a dna test his results are gonna say African making him more African
I think poverty is a bigger issue here.. I don't know anyone who cares much about stuff like this if they can barely afford food.
I was in South Africa only once (and not only in Cape Town) - and I loved it. But I will never forget riding somewhere on the coast and on one side of the highway there were slums built out of the sheet metal, and then over the next hill, there was a wonderful gated community, with clean and tidy gardens and pool. Really strange picture
Isn't it quite common across the third world? It's just more obviously along racial lines in SA.
@@matt7192 I wonder why
Demographics is destiny.
@@matt7192 Definitely, Rich people from foreign countries come over, build, and the old-world struggles with new laws, and lands. Happens everywhere even before the british "colonized" africa.
@@matt7192 yes, in rio de janeiro its really obvious as well... just the reality of living in a corrupt place
Five kids that finished school the same year, from Limpopo, are now living in Cape Town, the reason....absolutely no jobs closer to home.
Limpoopoo
And this is why Coloureds in Cape Town cannot find work
@@DC_Fedens Lol
They should just split into two states.
as a human being from the planet earth and who has absolutely nothing to do with this i have to say that i don't have anything of value to add to the conversation
Most shocking part: The majority (over 90%) were only allowed to live in 8% of the land.
And it was the worst part of the land with little to no benefit
Black people weren't 90% of the population when apartheid was implemented.
Before anyone puts my words out of context, I disagree with the way the country was managed e.g. apartheid and others. But it is indeed shocking to see that nothing significant happened in those communities. I think it's a dream for any entrepreneur to have that many people on such small land.
@@schadenfreude000 I was also including 'coloured' people.
It is a scewed analogy to compare the two. Large parts of South Africa are arid and mountainous and not really habitable. Not even whites live there.
This is a beautiful data visualization. Can't believe we get this kind of information free at our finger tips now. Much appreciated.
yes, me too! and grateful to be one of those taking full advantage :)
This false premise is manipulating you. Don't be so grateful for free information.
@@jamesepler7156 be quiet coloniser
@@yasminwinwinkxD You're welcome.
What to do with that information is what matters most
That happens everywhere.
There is no "race separation" but money separation. If you have enough money, you can buy/live in best places, otherwise... you only can afford cheap areas.
This was the best video I’ve come across to explain what I didn’t know. I’m looking forward to my upcoming visit to the Mother Land
Thank you for showing papers and for talking with people. Here in the US, there's long been a tendency to throw the word "apartheid" very blandly, without talking about how it happened, what the process was and what this process did to people. The details of this are vital to our understanding of what today's South Africa looks like.
Apartheid is dutch?
People naturally separate because they are in different families. Why would you want to mix humanity? Have you ever lived in a ghetto that's
@@ajax3017 exactly, I mean only white people have the right to come and occupy and take the lands from the natives by any means necessary, I mean how else would they learn. If in that process it leads to apartheid, genocide, who cares
i think showing people who are essentially victims of apartheid also helps to establish that this isnt some thing that happened and was done with by the 50s and 60s, apartheid didnt end until 1996, during living history for many many people, and its consequences are still very much felt by many people. i think it rly helps people to see just how real this all was because its easy to brush it off like 'oh well its happened now who cares'
@Joe Shmoe but there is still a large inequality in economic status and living conditions between the races. You seem to be in favor of “separate but equal” but it isn’t equal at all.
I, as a South-African, was taught all this in school. But the thing that stuck with me the most was a line from my father, who was raised during apartheid. He talks about social capital; how with each generation the divide widens. White people are often able to pass down inheritances of house, land and the education. How to use libraries and free resources, the ability to locate close to good schools, and budget for tertiary education. They are able to pass on the knowledge of how to act and work within society. Whereas the people so horrifically oppressed by apartheid often cannot. There is often no inheritance or land or advice on how to operate in within the economy. There is not always the ability to share with the next generation the knowledge of how to save money or invest. This social capital - the gains one gets from knowledge of how to operate as an equal and functioning member within society - widens the gap as generations go by. It is this lack of social capital which acts as one of the factors of the poverty trap. I hope for my generation that we can truly work towards righting the wrongs of the oppressive regime of apartheid.
In the United States everyone can have access to public library, some or most parents don't bother teaching their children how valuable their lives are living in U.S. There are County, State & Federal benefits paid for by us the taxpayers.
BTW I was born in Mexico with no running water, toilet or electricity. I'm blessed in U.S.A.
You have aptly pointed out the very problem lingering formerly oppressed peoples, the lack of social capital. Your father is a very wise man.
@@adel19997 I grew up in the US, and I haven't been in a library besides my university library (which I pretty much exclusively used for research and classwork) since I was a kid.
Maybe once quarantine is over, I should go to the library in my free time.
To fight through this. There needs to be one black person who is willing and skillful to compete against the white market. Seriously I believe this is the only way. Once that black person manages to have a strong enough economy to be seen as important in the town, the government will start working with him, then major changes are easy because the government is in control. But this will probably happen given enough time
There must someone from family who will break the cycle of poverty. If you will just continue to pass down blame on the system which is non-existent, you will not be abale to devise a way how to be at par with the other people. Initive must come from you and not doled out by somebody.
video thoroughly explains the role racial politics have historically played in the shaping of geographical segregation in modern South Africa, with numerous, connected examples:
people watching: what does this have to do with race?
Too bad the government was handed to morally weak people 🤷♂
I don't know man, these Districts seem to be a world wide phenomenon. I see these Districts everywhere I go and I haven't been to Africa since the late 1970's.
South Africa is extremely racially divided, more so than any other country I’ve seen. The gap between rich and poor is enormous
Because the british ruled the world. And created these mess
Yea, people from the countryside leave their home for going to the city to live in slums, it happen since the industrial revolution.
But it becomes a bit when a stranger comes to your land, take it, exploit and tell where you can or should live.
@@saulporter6404But there are many many very wealthy blacks now. So it's more divided along class lines now than ever before.
As a South African I will say that the government is doing nothing to cut off this unequalities and this unequalities are getting worse as the years move on
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Dude, the African government had openly admitted to wanting to genocide whites.
What do you want govt to do?
You have the same opportunities you asked for now?
@@mikolowiskamikolowiska4993 yeah after decades 🙄 you can’t expect a society to catch up to one developed decades before it
@@Xykaru not the Anc that sold their soul to Europeans
As a coloured man the true custodian of the land, I am not even seen in the job market, I am last in the BEE program
True custodian? 😂😂😂 it's a numbers game, you aren't fok al manne
I cannot fathom that with all the serious issues and deep structural corruption present in South Africa, that people focus on such superficial and symptomatic problems such as inequality. It is not the cause of a problem, it is the result
It hits hard when you learn about people being racially segregated and then see actual people who were affected by apartheid and are still alive. It just reminds you of how very recent apartheid was.
@Lethal Shots Because of apartheid, if it never happened, then their situation would be better today.
@Lethal Shots so you’re trying to say apartheid was a good thing then?
@Lethal Shots sounds like it, which tells me all I need to know about your character or lack of
@Lethal Shots -but the truth about how disgusting “human beings” are.
@Lethal Shots In what world is systematically impoverishing someone a good thing?
I visited SA 2-3 years ago, wonderful to see where my South African part of the family lived and so on. Good food, good people, less good government !
Where do u live now
Even worse than the one that was in charge?
@Kristoff Bjorgman I'm curios too.
Same boat man my dad's south African and my mum is Scottish and I live in Scotland... visited SA a couple years ago and crime was through the roof very scary stuff. It's a wonderful place run by horrible people. The government is not encouraging change in poor neighbourhoods and not putting money to them. They are corrupt and stealing the money. They have load shedding sometimes no power 8 hours a day but still export power to Zimbabwe. Is a joke. SA needs a proper government who will use money Well and make change for such a wonderful country.
Good government?
U sure you went to South Africa?
that area is where I was born in
The way it should be. Nobody would complain about racism. We live with our own kind and culture. All happy because no other races to blame for their own downfall and stupidity. Laziness as well.
Economically it is a ineffective, due to its negative multiplier effects and its inefficiencies in occupational mobility as well as geographical mobility. It is better for a nation to integrate its cultures for more economic innovation - if more people with diverse backgrounds had access to investment and capital development then the economic objectives such as growth would rise and unemployment would fall.
@@mattfromswitchsports9679 Nothing you've said has anything to do with economics, it's woke nonsense plucked from thin air.
Self-segregation is a phenomenon found the world over. Even when people work together, they tend to spend their free time with people of their own race-- especially when they're minorities. They tend to live in areas with people of their own race and culture. They tend to procreate with people of their own race and culture.
muricans b like: wait, there r yt ppl in africa?
As a Polish person who has been to Cape Town before COVID madness, I have to confirm, that talking both with whites and blacks, no matter what, everyone was so open minded, friendly and energetic I can’t believe the SA authorities can’t use this combination to develop open, tolerant, and prosperious land for everyone. And another thing - remember about your painful past, but focus about future. I know what I say, because after 75 years, after the end of WW2, people of my land can live now peacefully with Germans, being good neighbors, friends, and working together for even better future (literally without any borders between our lands)
Europe 🇪🇺
Greed and corruption has been the downfall of South Africa. So much opportunities for greatness . So much potential for living together, on a relatively equal economic level. Oh I should add that all the potential is there because of the people in South Africa. The people in this country are for the most, amazing. A couple of bad apples and the terrible government ruins it for everyone.
@@Picasso7028 true
@@Picasso7028 is government mostly black or white nowadays?
no offence but polish people are some of the most racist out there even though there is tones of you who moved to england (not a bad thing) the only times ive experienced racism in my 13 years of life was from polish people and people even say poland is a very racist country
Im from the Cape Flats and I used to travel 4 hours a day to get to and from work. And I took 4 different buses everyday🙃
That must have been a nightmare. Thank God those days are behind you and spare a thought for those still stuck un that rut.
Yikes. Port Elizabeth📍😊😊
Keeps ya occupied and busy no time to cause trouble
@rigorous mortis all that time used up so ya can’t cause trouble ya have no fee time
@@steelisthemeal why would she cause trouble? Why do you think that
I hope it gets wayyyyyy worse. It’ll be the only way the people will replace the leaders.
I'm South African🇿🇦 and this is sooo accurate. Unfortunately this spacial divide will continue so long as the Economic divide persists
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Sandton suburbs are 70 percent black, 15 white and 15 others like asian etc. Not like Capetown.
As long as the ANC stays in power. Things will continue to regress
@F*СК MЕ - СНЕCK МY РR0FILЕ tolol
Then you will have the other effect. Birds of a feather flock together. People cluster. That's why you have regions in a city like Chinatown, or little Italy.
I've lived in Cape Town for many years and this is tragically accurate.
What are people doing to fix it?
@@NomadA1 Not gonna insult you but obviously nothing
@@NomadA1 nothing obviously
@@High1QWealth ok racist
@@High1QWealth Safe from the blacks? What do you mean, what are you trying to say?
Corrupt ANC government to blame for this, 30 years of bad management
These people are talking about 28+more years ago.This news is a completely off the right track
Visiting South Africa (Cape Town and Johannesburg), I certainly saw the divide. It was amazing how you can go from one area of the country to another and it would be so different - night and day difference.
Bob, you'll find something similar in america so nothing out of the ordinay
At least you were able to notice it - I'm South African currently living in Sweden and it's surprising how many people I've met here from all over Europe who have only holidayed in the tourist traps in Cape Town, so they've only been surrounded by wealthy (mostly white people) and they hardly find anything strange that the only black and coloured people they interact with in those spaces are service staff and workers. They wouldn't dare see more sides to South Africa because "it's too dangerous" but aren't willing to interrogate the complexity of why that is
Precisely. It is all very sad. And the integration between the different groups is no easy task, no doubt. But I so wish our south african politicians would've remained stead strong on that, instead of busy stealing from the coffers.
@@lusandantintili8668 So Black South Africans have become spineless victims to be enslaved by Dutch Settlers for eternity.
Wow.
@@lusandantintili8668 well that's the reason I never will go there. Same reason I will never visit other countries for the same reason.
I'm from a township in Johannesburg & the richest square mile in Africa is 5 mins away, its the same story here.
Is there a sense of community where you are?
Go work hard and U 2 can live nice. It's not because we white we make money it's because we WORK. To live nice U must pay. Township is free. Whites don't want free
Sandton
@@jasonhardy2880 it’s much harder to become rich simply by ‘working’ when you live in townships like these. as mentioned in the video, it takes long hours on transport to major job centres, and many of them don’t have enough money to actually go to college, whereas white people normally would. hard work is important for becoming rich, but you also need a whole ton of privilege and support, which is something a lot of black people don’t have.
@@jasonhardy2880 Listen I'm as conservative as they come and a South African as well. I agree hard work is important but townships are full of kids who aren't stuck there because of their own actions. They were born, their parents couldn't send them to school, and if they could their teacher was probably useless and our government hasn't done anything except lower passing marks every few years to make their stats look better.
Black people in townships, even the ones who do go to their local school, leave school with far less knowledge or skills than kids in the typical Model-C or private schools.
I don't buy into the full PRIVILEGE meme, but it's inarguable that work ethic is NOT the only factor holding people back. Very important to remember we have like a third of our country unemployed constantly. Even so there is a surplus of labour to the point where people are being hired just to wave flags at construction sites on the road by the government in many cases.
There is unfortunately a huge amount of cultural and economic development that needs to happen under the stewardship of a competent and caring government but unfortunately we're stuck with the African National Cancer.
The ten seconds from 9:21 succinctly summarize the root of the current matter.
I never noticed anything wrong until I moved to Gauteng.
Me, a South African African citizen who already knows all of this: 'Wild'
Alright cool
Yeah same here 😂😂😂
MN,
Always nice to see diff points of views! 😬 I'm South Asian but I loved the borders series Jonny did on this channel about partition and how both Pakistan and India face problems because of it today.
Me too
I always hear stories from my mom and grandma of ho they were just chased out of district 6 and how they had to relocate .She always tells me how she remembers the government coming with construction machinery and just knocking down their house and their neighbours
I'm so sorry for what your grandmother went through. My grandmother went through the same thing, she used to live in mixed race vibrant community called Sophiatown in Johannesburg in the 1950s, the government forcibly removed the residents and relocated them to Soweto. She also says so trucks and machines breaking down their houses.
They getting there houses back, they can apply......office is in cape town
same thing happening in palestine
Lol the irony , construction machinery knocking down the houses
Horrible... I'm so sorry for your grandma
this is cap. i live in south africa near that location. the people of the shacks don’t pay for the ground they live on, alot aslo steals power from the government. and also alot of them are immigrants. but other than that they are really good and hard workers
I love the story telling here
If I was a white person living in south africa now, I'd leave the country asap, things will get real messy soon, just an advice
Are whites and white businesses being targetted there now ?
@UCt3yf4IpDPMmEGOcyb-h2BA Hope people remain safe
Look into how white farmers and their children have been treated in the past few years. Some of the stories I have heard, still stick with me because of how horrific they were
Hurry up then!
@@chadnuts look how black citizens in their land have been treated for HUNDREDS of years and are still treated today, you don’t have the morale high ground here