The GREATEST Scorer the NBA's EVER Seen! (The Panel Reacts to 2019 James Harden)
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- čas přidán 12. 06. 2024
- In this segment, The Panel discuss how insanely good James Harden was in 2019 and how he was being praised as the greatest scorer of all-time.
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He’s led the league in scoring and finished as an MVP finalist for most of the past decade. Only reason he has no rings is cuz his prime coincided with the GSW. The same team that kept Bron, KD, AD, Westbrook, dame, etc. from winning.But he was the only one who took those avengers to 7 games
He got no rings because he choked
Harden has a history of choking in the playoffs, he’d lose every potential finals against LeBron in that span
This is revisionist history at it's finest.
You're SEVERELY overstating what actually happened.
He had A LOT of stinkers and overall underperformances in the playoffs troughout the years. And not only against the Monstars Warriors.
@@Jamar-lg9obtrue somewhat. He choked that game 7
@@battousaithekingslayer9913he choked every playoffs
Peak Harden was insane he’s the first person to get a 60 point triple double and he was doing things that we’ve never seen league pass was a must in 19 to see him
Kobe averaged 40+ for an entire month twice in that 05-06 season. January 43.6 PPG and April 41.6 PPG. This was in a much slower pace and he was First team all defensive so he’s expending his energy on both ends yet still putting up history numbers. Then you got the 62 points in 3 quarters out scoring the Mavs 61 and a month later scoring 81 points on the Raptors
Don’t forget the 50 4 straight games even tho I’m not sure what year that was. But with harden it was a lot of guys not even really playing true defense bc of how they were calling fouls
Yeah that was the best scoring I ever seen imo
@@Sambula3same season 05-06 Kobe was different
@@Sambula3 and that was off of injury
On more shots and on a ass team
9:28 Everyone knows how dominant Kobe’s scoring in 05-06 (best scoring season in NBA history when considering context) but Kobe’s scoring was also impressive for the 06-07 season.
For perspective Bron (one of the top players of all time/all time leading scorer) just recently had his 14th career 50 pt game (back in the 22’ season). Well Kobe (06-07) had 10 50+pt games in one season and 4 straight 50 point games (65, 50, 60, 50 on 58%, 48%, 55% and 54% FG %).
Kobe truly is one of the greatest scorers of all time (especially considering context of the era he played in). Sad these kids today who didn’t see him play underrate him.
Jordan averaged 37 ‘87 then the next year and averaged 35. In the damn 80s no 3s. Let’s be real here
Its not even close MJ is just way better than everybody
Not even a top 3 mj scoring season. But still clears harden
James harden will pass ray allens in 3s next season. he will pass 3000 threes and be the second player ever to do so
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Cap
Marz do you think luka will ever be as good as peak harden?
@@stanleywarren129 cp3 ain't in his prime anymore 🤣
He owns the most missed 3s of all time already.
One of the best peaks we’ve ever scene def should have at least 2 mvps
No he should not refs helped him score he choked every playoffs without refs help
@@Jamar-lg9ob revisionist history
@@aminuabdullahi5922that’s not revisionist history that’s reason he choked in the playoffs cause he wasn’t getting those calls in the playoffs.
Mfs didn’t respect that too much cause he was taking like 13-14 free throws a game and was foul baiting like a mf
Which is why them numbers and impact was looking real different in the playoffs
W marz for praising harden L Ox and Ron for always hating my Goat
thank you marz you were always the only to stand up for harden on this panel they all talk about him like he wasn’t averaging 40 ppg
Had the league defending him with their hand behind their backs😂
Harden is one of the greatest players ever period. Tired of the disrespect.
Facts tired of the hate
Great in whhat? Disappearing in the Playoffs?
@@KHittaaa L hater
@@MOE__ you a W Meat Rider...
@@KHittaaa ok and
Healthy embiid is one of the greatest scorer in the world.
absolutely
So he is not 😂
Ah, yes, the mythological creature that no one has ever seen "A Healthy Embiid".
And calling a 7'2" 300 pound Center who can't shoot 50% from the Field in a playoff game if his life depended on it "one of the greatest scorers ever" is legitimately clownish.
06 Kobe was the greatest individual scoring season ever. And it's not really close when you look at pace of play/team ppg back then
I do agree Kobe 06 was a better scoring season but to say it’s not close is a lil ridiculous. Pace team and spacing is a decent argument. But when you compare each player to their respective eras and peers, it’s a debatable conversation imo.
@@aminuabdullahi5922 comparing their peers in those seasons then yes you have a point since 06 also had AI and LeBron going crazy. But player vs player (Harden v Kobe v MJ) the pace of play was dramatically slower in 06 than it was in 87 19. I would rank it Kobe, MJ then Harden because MJ was basically all 2pt field goals
@@TH-cq7bj You can argue for pace, but Harden was scoring like 1 more point per game while taking 3 less shots than Kobe.
Still, Jordan is the greatest scorer. But i feel the difference is Jordan early in his career was allowed to just take all those shots while Harden had maybe 2 or 3 seasons in which he got that type of greenlight.
@@sergeistalin7916 please understand context. Harden shot twice as many 3s as Kobe.
Yeah if Jordan would have shot 3's like today's game he would've average more than 40 points a game during his peak scoring seasons and probably closer to 34-36 points for his career
MJ all day
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I've been watching James harden since his days at ASU as a Sun devil fan. But they also change the rules cuz he was flopping so bad, he's also defensively inept. But I use him to drop 50 on 2K
before cable is crazy
Damian lillard two month stretch in 2022
37ppg
Eleven 40 point games
Three 50 point games
Two 60 point games
And a 70 point
Nobody talks about this him being 6’2 makes it even more crazy
bro Harden had people playing him from behind because they didn't want him to step back lol
Had to keep your arms away from him as well are else he was going to foulbait you
Yes, he had the greatest scoring peak ever imo
Funny how double step back isn't a travel in the NBA but double step forward is!
I remember watching him destroy Orlando one game in the 2019 season, dude did a no look bounce pass to Anderson so easily . He’d get like 17 pts in one quarter alone .Too bad he had such a bad production dropoff late in the playoffs if not dude could’ve had at least 2-3 chips by now.
Marz was coookin 🔥🔥🔥
Love the Harden love
Why chill so mad 😂😂😂
Kobe in 06 clears Harden cause Kobe played against real defense and had more moves
I feel Ron 💯🤣I definitely hated on harden to boost Russ 💯🤣
Did Chill say Jordan only had 12 games over 40 points and still averaged 37.1 points. That makes no sense
Jordan had 37 games over 40 points that year.
29 over 40, 6 over 50 and 2 over 60.
Only 3 games under 19 points.
Kobe 05-06 season his % of his team points were higher then any of the guys mentioned also he played in the slowest pace season between all those guys
His season is more impressive because of pace of play
Also harden was hooking players his numbers were inflated a lot because of free throws and guys being afraid of fouling
Dude Marz said I guess you can consider pace lol 😆
Yea I felt like Harden should’ve won mvp that year
With hardens downplay in the playoffs would they really have won against Cleveland in 2018 finals . Cause lbj would’ve gave that rockets crew hell
James harden’s whole game was based around foul baiting, shooting 20 free throws and traveling to get open 3’s. He did it in the nba’s weakest defensive era and still couldn’t score more in a season than Jordan who shot mostly middys in the league’s toughest defensive era. Y’all need professional help.
Jordan averaged more free throws in 1987 than Harden did in 2018
@@reecenorwood8377 Jordan was getting laid out every time he entered the paint. Harden played in an era where you’re not allowed to touch the offensive player and they shot damn near the same amount of free throws. How does that happen ? 😂 the Harden rule exists for a reason.
@@FriendFred not arguing that but let’s not say Jordan didn’t try to get to the charity stripe just as much. He said it himself
@@reecenorwood8377 no he didn’t try to get fouls just as much as harden tf 💀
Yeah but his off-ball movement greatly diminishes his ceiling as a player and for his team. I cabt deal with you not playing a good defense coming but now with you having zero off ball game. How could you run a all-time offense and be an all-time player with zero off-ball game. The guy wouldn't even take catch and shoots. He literally had a dribble a few times even when he was open. How is that smart
Crazy how people give dame a pass vs gsw with kd but hate harden for not beating them like wat
@@NothingElseMattersJM bro wat😂😂 dame couldn’t even beat the pelicans
especially when portland didnt even play the warriors with KD
@@NothingElseMattersJM The Rockets would destroyed those Pelicans
@@boogy1033 We never got to see a healthy pelicans team with AD and Cousins. That would’ve been a matchup nightmare for the rockets
That rockets team was way better than Portland
Yeah and then playoffs come around
Harden comes back to earth
Nah its 62 wilt by 100 miles
40k 😂😂😂
Without context, what u guys saying can be accepted as truth.. Just bucket!
But with context, there's a lot of guy very close to harden.. we have to count the playoffs too
HarGoat
James Hardens peak depended on drawing fouls when his 3 wasn't going down. He was great but not the greatest
James harden played in an era where the star was allowed a constant green light. Do you knpw how many players would be better scorers if they had that? Team ball kept alot of players from being harden. Which is why you see tatum and luka in the finals. What years dud harden deserve MVP? You used to be penalized for stat padding
16 Steph peaked higher as a scorer than 19 Harden. And it’s not a debate
U slow asl😭
Jordan 87 was a better scorer
Just another reason why James Harden is better than Allen Iverson.
Never
@@Jamar-lg9ob Yes he is
Absolutely 💯
hell no
@@User27949 Why not?
Kobe the best scorer ever possible mj
We all know it's LeBron
Marz was COOKING!!! Harden definitely one of the best scorers EVER!!!
Tmac 03
I don’t care tmac was a better scorer then harden ..
😂🤣😂
I’m sorry harden was overrated !! Great in his prime choke in the playoffs y’all talking about regular season stats .. add to this Mike Dan toni system almost anybody can do what harden did because the ball was always in his hand with shooters around him great player but Marz cap n said he should won like 3 or 4 mvps you have to produce in the playoffs too
Harden the most overrated scorer of all time.
🫵🤡
@@BLGClipsx if not, who is then?
@Reallybruh99 Allen iverson
2019 Harden proved that defenses was weak. He was foulbaiting, kicking his feet and the refs were giving him almost every call.
Harden is gimmicky and weve seen that time and time
Nah get harden cry baby ahh out of here
Harden wasn't even top 20 best scorer ever its not close
Casual
@@MOE__ speak for yourself