Voyages 005 - 231 BC to the South Pacific by Rata and Maui

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  • Here's a fascinating voyage that took place long before Columbus that indicates that Erostathenes of Alexandria sent out voyagers that changes the nature of the Polynesians.
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Komentáře • 162

  • @EricRush
    @EricRush Před 3 lety +19

    Keep 'em coming! If history classes in school had been this interesting, maybe I'd have paid attention.

  • @Hapistudios
    @Hapistudios Před 2 lety +26

    I am a native Maori from NZ and I was taught many things by my elders that the colonized version of history chooses to ignore. This is video is very close to many of the claims my elders shared with me in oral history. This is one of the most correct analyses that I have come across. I also had an elder tell me of ancient coins that he was told to throw into the sea by his father that he found on one of the outer islands off NZ

    • @ora-in-aotearoa9747
      @ora-in-aotearoa9747 Před rokem +8

      Yes your correct, and you know why this guy's account is close, it's bcoz he is American, ypu will notice that American archeologists and historians are studying the Polynesian navigators and what's been happening is they have been finding such ore about the origins dating far.back as Egypt, these are Americans not English or Nz Whiteman who as we know altered so much Mauri history to suit their narrative. You can tell the difference when you hear these Whiteman trying to give historical accounts, so.follow the Americans they are the ones that are revealing the accounts of where we are from and where we traveled.

    • @surfturfnz1879
      @surfturfnz1879 Před rokem +2

      Facts! 👌💪

    • @skys6655
      @skys6655 Před rokem +1

      I feel like there was a super ancient civilization that traveled the world way before our times too. Possibly before the ice age even

    • @ChrisEAdlay
      @ChrisEAdlay Před rokem +3

      Lol these Egyptian stories are stupid. Zero I mean absolutely zero linguistic, archaeological, botanical or genetic connection between the Pacific and Africa nor America.

    • @ThaRealTRGSUPER
      @ThaRealTRGSUPER Před rokem

      Make a video and share my Māori help heal our people also question for you where did Ngapuhi boat originally leave from Alexandria?

  • @thomasnisbett
    @thomasnisbett Před 3 lety +8

    Excellent... some amazing information right in plain sight! Thanks!

  • @Noescape-yi2wx
    @Noescape-yi2wx Před 10 měsíci +1

    Thank you Mr Spira Boats. Greatly appreciated, kia ora

  • @samuelreed2994
    @samuelreed2994 Před 3 lety +8

    8:36 there's a connection between Maui and Egypt.

  • @zealantis
    @zealantis Před 2 lety +5

    8:38 ra
    9:39 - 10:10 Orion’s Belt
    11:38, 11:55 Maui and rata in papa New Guinea
    12:41, 13:06 Maui navigational techniques, Maui’s calculator drawing in papa New Guinea
    14:14
    14:59
    15:16
    15:41 Pitcairn
    16:22

  • @DavidWischnewski
    @DavidWischnewski Před 3 lety +4

    Thank you for the video very interesting.

  • @KASHKAL
    @KASHKAL Před rokem +1

    The same cave drawing was found in NZ inside a cave in 2005!

  • @DavidD6969
    @DavidD6969 Před rokem

    Very interesting 👍

  • @A.IHelpCentre
    @A.IHelpCentre Před 2 lety +2

    This explains the star mounts and pyramid in the pacific

  • @jibberjoel
    @jibberjoel Před 7 měsíci

    Well presented and very informative. Now I want to know more, like how Rata and Maui found themselves in Persia?
    Thank you for the great Video

  • @wswc3763
    @wswc3763 Před 2 lety +1

    Please give us more on this I need to know

  • @nterry894100
    @nterry894100 Před 3 lety +4

    Jeff we share another common interest it seems. Actually going back to the earliest days of human habitation of the Americas, especially the East coast, it seems that the flint tools and arrow heads are of the European kind, not the Mongolian. As a side note, the aboriginal population of the US is only part Mongolian. They seem to have come from further west.

    • @tjkid07
      @tjkid07  Před 3 lety +2

      Yes, I have a lot of pre end of the ice age info that'll come out over time.

    • @rickodell6095
      @rickodell6095 Před 3 lety +1

      Look for the book Bronze Age America. Written in the 80's. Much more European activity than we are taught.

  • @samuelreed2994
    @samuelreed2994 Před 3 lety +6

    16:20 do we ever consider Rapau Nui aka. Easter Island as the place where Maui may have ended his voyage? After all, there are plants that connect that island with Chile in south america, and the rock carvings show a connection to Egypt, as well as the writings by Maui that have been found. Perhaps that was their burial ground.

    • @tjkid07
      @tjkid07  Před 3 lety +3

      Yes, Easter Island is a possibility.

    • @mattpowell8023
      @mattpowell8023 Před 3 lety +6

      From what I understand is Maui and rata ended up in Tonga,they also have the maps Maui had

    • @evelynh9414
      @evelynh9414 Před 3 lety +2

      Writing of Maui where do I find out about this. I ve grown up Maui bit all this is so new. I m from New Zealand

    • @semilangi5432
      @semilangi5432 Před 2 lety

      Rapanui was the completion of Maui charting the Pacific

    • @dredavies4384
      @dredavies4384 Před 2 lety

      Maui ended up in Tonga there's a rock there called Mauis burden

  • @BarHawa
    @BarHawa Před 2 lety

    Hi, I'm a Polynesian and am extremely curious on this topic. Is there anyway to contact you for inquiry?

  • @awakeningphilspost520
    @awakeningphilspost520 Před rokem +1

    love your work in our maori creation story of mani/maori shows maui pulling autearua/new zealand out of the ocean but after finding this i realise their must have been a flood and the water was receding when maui arrived

  • @MonicaEastickMRSD
    @MonicaEastickMRSD Před 2 lety +3

    Can I share this video on my you tube channel?

    • @tjkid07
      @tjkid07  Před 2 lety +2

      Sure, happy to see it get around.

  • @ECGgroup
    @ECGgroup Před 2 měsíci

    Do you have any sources at all? I tried finding this reference to Maui in Papua New Guinea and got nothing.

  • @kureiahu
    @kureiahu Před 2 lety +12

    Wow the story of Maui being Egyptian and travelling thru the South Pacific sort of coincides with some of the stories we've been told, our version was that Maui was the son of an Egyptian Queen who had become pregnant to her new husband . fearing for the life of her 1st son Maui thinking if the new child is a boy Maui would be assassinated . So the Queen sent Maui away on an expedition to navigate the South pacific and he never returned. So our stories are pretty close. I am from the island right next to Mayor Island called Motiti Island and the island is riddled with Egyptian style rock carvings dating back nearly 3000 yrs. My uncle Nepia who lives on Motiti Island has done a lot of research on the carvings and placement of rocks situated around the island, sea and landmarks from the mainland.

    • @mb68nz35
      @mb68nz35 Před 2 lety

      B's. Utter trash.

    • @thomassoane4302
      @thomassoane4302 Před rokem +1

      Would love to hear more about the Egyptian style rock carvings. Any photos anywhere online?

    • @kaisahfx1246
      @kaisahfx1246 Před rokem

      you been told teko, how dare you devalue you tipuna by believing that rubbish

    • @melaroha8003
      @melaroha8003 Před 6 měsíci

      @@kaisahfx1246 I don't think ur Maori.

    • @kaisahfx1246
      @kaisahfx1246 Před 6 měsíci

      @melaroha8003 era you don't ever think! 😂

  • @Mauihau22
    @Mauihau22 Před 3 lety +3

    I realize that stories change but Maui was generations before Rata. Rata is remembered for his ship making while Maui is given credit (as you say) to solar movement and force. He married the moon and stole her beautiful face in one story.

    • @funkyfiss
      @funkyfiss Před 2 lety +1

      That's what hes saying. That Rata was the captain and probably knowledgable in ship building and Maui was the Navigator of the expedition. At least that is what the Egyptians say.

    • @Tera4m
      @Tera4m Před 2 lety +6

      Māui:
      - Te Ika a Maui
      As legends would have it, many centuries before the great migration to Aotearoa,, two brothers [of Ephraim descent] decided to voyage from their homeland of Egypt. As far as stories go, the brothers [after circumnavigating more than half the globe] would find themselves upon the uninhabited Islands of Hawaii. One of the brothers [supposedly ashamed to return home] opted to stay & settle within the islands naming one in particular,, after himself. The brother, not being satisfied by the fish abound,, decided to find fish further abroad. By using nothing other than the blood from his nose as bait, cast his hook deep within the murky depth. Upon the realisation he was not landing a fish but instead fishing a land, reeled the great fish in naming it also after himself,, Te Ika ā Māui...
      Rātā:
      - The Enchanted Tree
      The brother who did decide to return to his homeland, suffered a few complications of his own. Determined to return to his homeland, he decided to fashion himself a sea worthy vessel capable of offering,, safe passage. Upon selecting a tree of such capability, he began his works. At days end, he had fell & hewn a great tree,, where he than retired from all labour. The next day, to much amazement,, the tree had returned to it’s original position & once again standing upright. So, he immediately,, repeated the process & laboured with the passing of another day. When the third day dawned & again, the tree was upright & back to it’s original form. & again the brother repeated the process, but this time he decided to see,, who had undone all his work. To much surprise, the brother noticed all the Forrest birds, insects & wild life, labour to restore the tree to it’s former prestige. Upon hearing their incantations, the brother sprang from hiding & spoke to the children of Tane Mahuta, so it is you,, who restore my tree. In which, the children of Tane Mahuta replied,, who hath given you authority to fell the Forrest God to the ground. When the brother had heard this, he was quite & overcome with shame. The offspring of Tane all called out aloud to him saying, return to the village,, for we shall make a canoe for you. & thus, it was so...
      Rātā - Aotearoa
      Rata - Tahiti
      - Tuamotu
      Laka - Hawai’i
      Aka - Marquesas
      Lata - Samoa
      Lasa - Tonga
      The Stone Wall structure depicting, the Name of the Most High Living God of my Forefathers written in ancient Hebrew, not English or Hindi😜
      Stone Wall Structures, Waipoua Forest
      czcams.com/video/OKbMPd0sIWc/video.html
      "Maui’s" Demonstration of Eratosthenes
      docplayer.net/55714078-A-voyage-around-the-world-in-the-third-century-b-c.html
      archive.schillerinstitute.com/fidelio_archive/1999/fidv08n01-1999Sp/fidv08n01-1999Sp_014-on_eratosthenes_mauis_voyage_and-lar.pdf
      Gosford Glyphs
      czcams.com/video/CsG1C-52MCI/video.html
      czcams.com/video/Q1SRpziFSCg/video.html
      czcams.com/video/zjg-l3DnzjY/video.html
      Heard’a the "Throwing Sticks" of Tut? Where’d you think he got’m, heads up,, it wasn’t Mother Africa😅
      czcams.com/video/lfUcGiM_Yk8/video.html
      Pukana, Blahhh,,😝😜😛
      Jah Bless…

    • @montoyaelvasco1880
      @montoyaelvasco1880 Před rokem +4

      Maui aka Maui ti'i ti'i .. has always been know as the Samoan Hercules !

    • @aaronfranklin324
      @aaronfranklin324 Před rokem +2

      Maui means the Navigator. Rata means the Captain. They are Not names. There have been many Maui's and Tatas that have sailes from New Zealand to all parts of the world and back for hundreds of thousands of years.
      We keep having to repopulate the Northern hemisphere when the kids fail to stay alive.

    • @Noescape-yi2wx
      @Noescape-yi2wx Před 10 měsíci

      Far out, iv never heard of any of this before, , holy moly,I am truly amazed doi doi bleh 😋

  • @ora-in-aotearoa9747
    @ora-in-aotearoa9747 Před rokem +3

    Could there be a possibility Maui and RATA were from the Hyksos people??? who years before had invaded egypt then became.part.of Egyptian culture, the reason I say this is ncoz, King Solomon enlisted into his navy the hyksos people bcoz of their warrior background, and sailing abilities, also mentions the strength of this race.of people who king Solomon wanted as part.of his mighty army

    • @MikeMike-bb1vj
      @MikeMike-bb1vj Před 9 měsíci

      Sea people?

    • @darrelhenley-mc9dw
      @darrelhenley-mc9dw Před měsícem

      The hyosks were steep peolpe like hiitties they introduced horse and chariots to eygpt
      Plus your own elders described these people and fair
      Like rangi marie rose pere said (my whiteness come from anceint egypt)

  • @medit8iv_native970
    @medit8iv_native970 Před rokem +2

    Maui took the tanawa to Egypt and taught there not the other way around, learn y dna genetics from familtree dna. You'll see society started in oceania by the ancestors of māori in sulawesi area.

  • @awakeningphilspost520

    A Voyage Around the World in the Third Century B. C.
    A
    flotilla of ships set sail from
    Egypt around 232 B.C .. , during
    the reign of Ptolemy III, on a mission
    to circumnavigate the globe. The six
    ships sailed under the d irection of
    Captain Rata and Navigator Maui, a
    friend of the astronomer Eratosthenes,
    who was head of the Alexandria
    library. The commander and navigator
    knew from Eratosthenes that the circumference of the Earth was 250,000
    stades (approximately 28,000 miles),
    and they had state-of-the-art astronomical and navigational equipment.
    Although there is no record that the
    flotilla returned to Egypt, Maui and
    others left records of their voyage
    along the way

  • @robfonua4769
    @robfonua4769 Před 2 měsíci

    I agree with a lot of this video. There are tribes in Fiji that have libyan language roots. This all makes sense, but I believe Maui and Rata, the birth of polynesia melanesians, were definitely in the pacific long before polynesians and Micronesians.

  • @Nagol189
    @Nagol189 Před 3 lety +1

    I was curious what you thought of the possible Voyage of Mark Anthony, Cleopatra VII and Alexander Helios up the Mississippi River around 34BCE?

  • @jmjm1920
    @jmjm1920 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Maui were Ancient Tongan Navigators from Lapita settlement and Tangaloa 😊

  • @Eric..F
    @Eric..F Před 3 lety +1

    👍

  • @evelynh9414
    @evelynh9414 Před 3 lety +1

    I m from new Zealand and keen to read some of the books you had found this on information in please I found Nd this very interesting and so odd to know nothing of this. Thank you

    • @funkyfiss
      @funkyfiss Před 2 lety +2

      There is a great PDF file called
      "On Eratosthenes, Maui's Voyage of Discovery, And Reviving the Principle of discovery today"
      by Lyndon H. laRouche, Jr.
      Published in Fidelio Volume 8, Number 1, Spring 1999
      There is also a great Documentary you can find here on CZcams called "New Zealand, skeletons in the cupboard".
      I hope this helps.

  • @LikeaRolandStone
    @LikeaRolandStone Před rokem

  • @jessiemccarthy8790
    @jessiemccarthy8790 Před 2 lety

    Stars flip upside down in northern hemisphere.. PNG

  • @malakai252001
    @malakai252001 Před 5 měsíci

    Gosford glyphs in Australia , may hold a clue to what became of Maui and Rata...

    • @ECGgroup
      @ECGgroup Před 2 měsíci

      Gosford Glyphs have been proven as fake.

  • @jackiebiskan4748
    @jackiebiskan4748 Před 3 lety

    this is really cool get a sub and a like

  • @thetamihana2561
    @thetamihana2561 Před 2 měsíci

    Maui is our ancestor he his in our whakapapa - we say he is from Ur - working for who you said, also was gold on their agenda?

  • @allgood6760
    @allgood6760 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for this... there were Egyptian remains found here in NZ caves (Sir Grafton Elliot Smith)... Egyptians were in Australia being taught by Aborigine people how to use the Boomerang.. thanks from NZ 👍🇳🇿

  • @geofflewis8599
    @geofflewis8599 Před rokem +1

    ..Nuts..

  • @dianafayeocoma6505
    @dianafayeocoma6505 Před 2 lety

    What about the voyage that went west to meet them?

    • @Saiyan4eva
      @Saiyan4eva Před 2 lety

      Sounds like they ended up in the America's

    • @ora-in-aotearoa9747
      @ora-in-aotearoa9747 Před rokem

      Yes I beleive these people may have been the naive Americans, South Americans, Aztecs, iv looked at the map westward from Egypt and if the would've gone further west they would've no doubt sailed into the colder.climates.of the arctic area,s I'm.thinking they never went further than that and headed back to the America,s. This could have possibly been the other flotilla of ships sent the other way

  • @koroniriangarimu1179
    @koroniriangarimu1179 Před 2 lety +2

    Im from new zealand maui ship resides on mount Hikurangi we hold and resight our hisotry

  • @kelvingray7264
    @kelvingray7264 Před 2 lety

    Maui caught a sting ray from his canoe the sting ray is North island of New Zealand and his canoe is the South island

    • @robertjohn4232
      @robertjohn4232 Před rokem

      Then he was spotted by a talent agent and got his own movie

    • @lennluafutu6837
      @lennluafutu6837 Před rokem

      it was said that when maui set sailed in one of his trips again, he came through aotearoa and was too lazy to sail around the Island to get through...there he used his spirit hook to split the island, hence why there's a north and south island. then again, who really knows!

  • @siomakahele
    @siomakahele Před 2 lety +2

    In Tonga Maui built a huge stone hedge weighs about 12 tons. Maui hooked the stonehedge to pull the Island of Tonga but I think it was built for the sun. It's called, Ha'amonga a Maui. The story told by my ancestors are different than that of Wikipedia. The King realized that it could be used as a compass an calendar and took the maker for himself but the name stayed the same. What's crazy is Tonga are the very 1st to see the sun when it rises on earth.

    • @siomakahele
      @siomakahele Před rokem +1

      @Jerry Boden Polynesians came from Africa. Our languages are similar with the oldest tribes of Africa but not at all similar to Taiwan.

    • @uncle3822
      @uncle3822 Před rokem

      Correct me if im wrong Takitimu waka and Horauta waka have Tongan & Samoan origions........is that right

    • @siomakahele
      @siomakahele Před rokem

      @@uncle3822 all Polys are connected

    • @uncle3822
      @uncle3822 Před rokem +1

      @@siomakahele yes but are Tongan people linked to a certain waka....because ive heard Takitimu was constructed in Tonga

    • @uncle3822
      @uncle3822 Před rokem +1

      Or is that really only a maori practice. Different maori tribes are linked directly to certain Waka

  • @M.Campbell-Sherwood
    @M.Campbell-Sherwood Před 2 lety

    You mean Toll-ah-me NOT Tall-may…
    AH - NEW - B - ISSS (not to be confused with izzz) NOT Anna - b - ISS

  • @k_2353
    @k_2353 Před 3 měsíci

    Hagoth 🩸

  • @slideshowrob9666
    @slideshowrob9666 Před 10 měsíci

    There's glyphs in Australia, i've never heard it connected to Maui but they tell the story of someone important who came to shore near Gosford, went inland, was bitten by a snake and died.

  • @dredavies4384
    @dredavies4384 Před 2 lety

    One of my mates tribes in NZ is linked to Egypt

  • @Tera4m
    @Tera4m Před 2 lety +1

    Legend of Māui & Rātā
    Māui:
    - Te Ika a Maui
    As legends would have it, many centuries before the great migration to Aotearoa,, two brothers [of the Tribe of Ephraim] decided to voyage from their homeland of Egypt. As far as stories go, the brothers [after circumnavigating more than half the globe] would find themselves upon the uninhabited Islands of Hawaii. One of the brothers [supposedly ashamed to return home] opted to stay & settle within the islands naming one in particular,, after himself. The brother, not being satisfied by the fish abound,, decided to find fish further abroad. By using nothing other than the blood from his nose as bait, cast his hook deep within the murky depth. Upon the realisation he was not landing a fish but instead fishing a land, reeled the great fish in naming it also after himself,, Te Ika ā Māui...

    • @Tera4m
      @Tera4m Před 2 lety

      Rātā:
      - The Enchanted Tree
      The brother who did decide to return to his homeland, suffered a few complications of his own. Determined to return to his homeland, he decided to fashion himself a sea worthy vessel capable of offering,, safe passage. Upon selecting a tree of such capability, he began his works. At days end, he had fell & hewn a great tree,, where he than retired from all labour. The next day, to much amazement,, the tree had returned to it’s original position & once again standing upright. So, he immediately,, repeated the process & laboured with the passing of another day. When the third day dawned & again, the tree was upright & back to it’s original form. & again the brother repeated the process, but this time he decided to see,, who had undone all his work. To much surprise, the brother noticed all the Forrest birds, insects & wild life, labour to restore the tree to it’s former prestige. Upon hearing their incantations, the brother sprang from hiding & spoke to the children of Tane Mahuta, so it is you,, who restore my tree. In which, the children of Tane Mahuta replied,, who hath given you authority to fell the Forrest God to the ground. When the brother had heard this, he was quite & overcome with shame. The offspring of Tane all called out aloud to him saying, return to the village,, for we shall make a canoe for you. & thus, it was so...
      Rātā - Aotearoa
      Rata - Tahiti
      - Tuamotu
      Laka - Hawai’i
      Aka - Marquesas
      Lata - Samoa
      Lasa - Tonga

  • @davidsavelio6492
    @davidsavelio6492 Před 3 lety +1

    Could Maui be Enoch from the Bible ?

  • @ThaRealTRGSUPER
    @ThaRealTRGSUPER Před rokem

    Sooooo….. who were the natives that Maui fooled
    also who are the great ancestors of the Māori people ?
    And WHAT WAS MAUI ?????????

  • @mahirahirangi-thompson9715

    Maui was not from Egypt

    • @36thchamber46
      @36thchamber46 Před 2 lety +2

      How do you know?

    • @dredavies4384
      @dredavies4384 Před 2 lety +1

      Depends what maui your talking about

    • @Saiyan4eva
      @Saiyan4eva Před 2 lety +7

      I am Māori but my father told me our bloodlines go back to Egypt & there is historical evidence all over the Pacific also we share very close similarities in our customs, traditions & mythology, its awesome that we actually have historical documentation of The Egyptians under The Ptolemy reign sending a flotilla of ships to circumnavigate the Earth & ending up settling in the Pacific ocean where Maui an ancient Egyptian navigator became a Legend!

    • @Timer-Diegon1111
      @Timer-Diegon1111 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Saiyan4eva not just that there are documentaries about it, about locals being related to Egyptians, the celts, the Persians, the Chinese etc. The Maori seem to have come later and kept some pretty well protected bloodlines. Polynesian people are so underrated in world history.

    • @Timer-Diegon1111
      @Timer-Diegon1111 Před 2 lety +3

      Look up a documentary called New zealand skeletons in the cupboard. Thank me later.
      Maui was from Egypt and they weren't the only ones who went there.. before the Maori.

  • @smashdivers
    @smashdivers Před 2 lety

    Maui was from Ethiopia

    • @darrelhenley-mc9dw
      @darrelhenley-mc9dw Před měsícem

      Are u saying Ethiopians were fair skinned with curly redhair and very large stature

  • @ecnegilletni3537
    @ecnegilletni3537 Před rokem +3

    Actually none of what he is saying is based on facts it's a reach there's literally no proof that any of what he is saying is relevant. If there was truth to it polynesians would have known he had Egyptian origin and he would have had certain materials gold metal clothing. But nothing not even a egyptian story.

  • @ora-in-aotearoa9747
    @ora-in-aotearoa9747 Před rokem +1

    American archaeological findings and historians will.actually tell the history they find and won't try to alter history. Americans are also the ones that have been opening up the historical accounts of Mauri as the most superior navigators of the world. These guys will end up re writing Polynesian history to the actual history, these guys are not like the English historians who lie about history

    • @Wildflower27823
      @Wildflower27823 Před 11 měsíci

      The pakeha narrative of Maori history has been completely destroyed. Whatever made them believe their messed up accounts would stand in the first place.

    • @teti_99
      @teti_99 Před 6 měsíci

      😬 don't be too sure my friend. American historians have changed history more than anyone else on the planet. I'm Tongan from America. The gentleman in this video is sincere and genuine but the American historians are far from being accurate on a lot of events. Also, Maori were awesome navigators, but not the most superior.