How to Setup FAST Robin Team | Ratio 0-Cycles Cocolia! | MOC 12 v2.1.2
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Stage: Memory of Chaos 12 1st Half v2.1.2
Team: E0 Ratio / E0 Robin / E0 Ruan Mei / E6 Tingyun
BGM: • Robin Trailer - "Sway ...
Timestamps
00:00 Strategy
02:34 Showcase
05:15 Builds and Gears
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Next one will be Robin x Bronya synergy.
excited for this!
Could you try a robin x (pseudo 201 spd) Sparkle hypercarry to let the team act 4 times in 1 cycle?
@@bard1311 It doesn't work as well as you'd imagine but I'll figure something out.
@@LisaraScarlet Thanks. So far I've thought of running sparkle s5 ddd and a fast robin (pesudo 178 spd -> actual requirement should be lower because of S5 DDD) to allow her to take 2 turns after her ult ends in the 2nd half. This will allow her to ult once in the 1st half and another time on the 2nd half for 0 cycles.
sounds like another Lisara banger ‼‼
If you're ever wondering why you're not getting any speed rolls on your artifacts, it's because Lisara took them all
And mrchode
@@suffering9481 haha i see that 14 spd one
@@mroyyanalfatah3560 and 136 spd atk boots acheron
Dude thats literally my boots, 14 spd atk boots, with 1 roll cdmg crate sub.@@suffering9481
Everyone: “I don’t want to do creator server showcases bcz it’s unrealistic”
Lisara: “I don’t want to do creator server showcases bcz there was a lack of in game voice lines”
3:02 It's goes silently and then "RISE UP INTO MY WORLD---" pop up out of nowhere. That's great jumpscare LMAO
i'm also confused like why robin sing in her skill lmao TT
@@chuwiichou5778wdym thats the best part
The timing of the ult going into the 2nd chorus was a class act. Well played.
Ratio peaked so hard when all the buffs are active like damn bro chill
Awesome showcase as usual!
There isn't enough methodological breakdown cc willing to stray away from the baseline average builds/techniques. I'm happy to see that people like me (on theory craft on their own)and those who want a change of pace, have you to look forward to. your videos offer a refreshing perspective on the game’s combat mechanics.
The music sync is so nice, you did great editing this video
Excellent, as always! 👏👏👏👏👏👏❤️✨
Always a blast watching your videos ❤ much love
I always like how you use the song to just finish on the last attack, good editing/gameplay as always Lisara
4:43 Excellent timing for the beat drop. Great editing and great showcase
I liked the vid before i watched it, because i know it's gonna be good. Your vids are the only reason i started rolling all my speed relics close to launch.
Impressive as always
Robin know very well the battle is about to end, she did a modulation to raise the tension. 😎
oh this was just beautiful.
Awesome video! In the future it would be great if you could show the Ruan Mei adjusted speeds in parenthesis next to the 'absolute' ones, since that's the comp you're suggesting (and most will use) anyway.
It's usually just a +10, rarely it becomes +11 if the base speed of a character is 110 or higher.
Amazing showcase !! It seems that Dr.ratio is more compatible with the team-up shown in this video than his follow-up ATK teammates.
Nice vid
Bruh,ratio on steroids lol ggwp man
Insane
Dreamy ❤❤❤
Lisara, I was wondering if you could review my Asta. I’m using her on my follow up teams with aventurine, Dr. ratio and topaz. Asta feels great to pair with them but I’m not sure if it matches up against Ruan or Robin.
4:45 the trailer drip hits hard 🔥🔥
Also dunno why the deep freeze debuff has to be permanent tho but it's surely painful (did they not test how awful it is? Like it would be more bearable if for example it expires 1 turn after the prowler dies)
it's to force an offensive team instead of 1 carry and 3 abundance/preservation
Don't watch unless you've had your morning coffee... I only realised after that the song was edited in. Was thinking, how in the heck did Lis use Robin's ult and still get to attack after? Didn't doubt it either, just Lis being Lis I guess, and kept watching. 😂
Lisara i was hoping to see your robin tech video!!! I got robin so early in pity that i cried of happiness lol. I just wanted to ask, since im going to duo Robin with Ratio and Aventurine, do you think 2 pc Atk 2 pc Fua DMG on Ratio is better than the entire Set of debuffs???
Ratio's BiS is Pioneer. Use Genius set if he is fighting Quantum weak enemies.
It would be really cool to also see some f2p medium investment e0s0 showcase on how to beat floor 12. Something like explaining enemy weakness and how to go around certain enemies like how sevy does for genshin floor 11-12. Your videos are really fun too watch though.
Honestly, it is so much work. Since it is meant to be a guide, people would nitpick either way. Most wants guide that works for their accounts which is impossible to account for considering not everyone pulls for the same characters.
@@LisaraScarlet yes that's true. Everyone's got different characters so its hard to make a guide that everyone can use. But maybe you can focus on enemies rather than characters. Like how to tackle a certain boss in moc. What can average player do that improves or worsen the outfit. Every boss got different mechanism and most guide starts right into action and not much info about boss. Few times I was only able to clear the stage once I learned about that boss's attack pattern etc. Still hard but maybe sometimes if it's possible in future
Is the Quantum Set on Ratio stronger then 2x FU/2x Imaginary? (I also have his LC)
Your brain!!!!! 😮
Do u plan on harmony trailblazer showcase?
Yes, just taking my time for now. Gotta do the story first and unlock it.
No voice no guide? Based
Very realistic build right there.
A single 9 speed piece while everything else is 7 or lower. Definitely realistic.
@@LisaraScarletGetting an ERR rope of a specific set and having spd on it while hitting the 25% 2-3 times is very rng
Do you think that this specific team for a hypercarry is better then the existing ones? For example, compared to robin/bronya unlimted blade works. Or even the more 'achievable' 4 turn ratio + bronya, or 3 turn with sparkle etc.
It's still case by case but it needs to be emphasized that if the enemy is weak to Physical, comps with Robin becomes significantly stronger. But whether it is stronger than traditional hypercarry setups is still arguable.
How do you favorite characters? Also this clear is insane
In the character menu, near the stats.
Dr. Ratio really puts the capital H on Hunt.
Nice vid, however, I wanna see, will those teams gonna work nicely with non gacha LC-s?
The dmg diff between signature LC and non gacha LC is just tragic even though the said char got same final stat... I'm looking at my Ratio
There will definitely be a big damage difference and you won't meet the damage breakpoints. Ratio is still very good with the Hunt LC from Herta shop but others aren't. You'd need to replace Tingyun with a sustain, the speed requirements will become 124 for everyone else while Robin still needs 170.
I was like: "Where are all the debuffs?" But I guess that MOC debuff is enough to make it reliable.
MOC debuff, Ratio's technique/skill and Ruan Mei's ULT.
Are you planning to make a guide about Harmony TB Dreamy?
No plans so far.
I made the speed tuning work with only 163 spd Robin (173 with RM buff), it runs exactly the same like your showcase, at least that's how it looks in the turn order. The only difference is my Ratio doesn't deal enough damage because he's not using 4P Quantum so I didn't bother to continue trying to clear it in 0 cycle. Since your recommendation for Robin in this tech is 180 spd, do you think my spd tuning can go wrong in any way with only 163?
As written in the alternative setup, the faster your Ratio goes beyond 113, the slower Robin could be so that's probably why it is working for you.
@@LisaraScarlet ohh, so that's how it is. That part went out of my head for some reason. Thanks!
I'm wondering whether I should get E1 Robin or Topaz, I already have Robin and I'm planning to build Ratio. Topaz would be ideal but would it be better than E1 Robin? I already have DHIL and Jingliu as my DPS but I feel like they don't synergize well wtih Robin that's why I'm building a FA team. Can you give me your thoughts? (Anyone's opinion would also help a lot)
Robin's E1 is stronger and universal.
Excited for the tech
See the Spd requirements
Left silencely in shame 😢
Next video will be using low speeds.
Does anyone know the speed required to act 3 times during Robin's state? Lile if my Sparkle has 160 speed, will she act 3 times after Robin pulla her up in Concerto state or no?
You need 180, but ddd and ruan mei buff can make it lower.
Just want to ask is Robin and selee a good combo for pf? Also nice showcase btw
Aura buffs has always been good for Seele because Seele takes too much turns.
@@LisaraScarlet okay tysm
For pf any other 5* harmony would probably be better. Since seele doesn’t get resurgence if robin’s additional damage kills the enemy like ruan mei’s break, and seele’s not good in pure fiction without resurgence, all of robin’s damage is wasted. On the other hand, she still provides decent buffs and pf lets you bring 3 harmony units(also robin can let your other units kill enemies), so it’ll still work.
can you explain the part where ruan mei need to be as slow as possible? my current setup is robin 172 (2p messenger vonwac), ratio 128, ruan mei 145 and topaz 140. I think they are functioning just as your showcase. Also, was the ddd on tingyun just to negate the effect of the slow from prowler? Appreciate your guide as always thank Lisara
I might exchange some speed subs from my other chars to something else, because i have a fast robin anyway
Allows Ruan Mei to only move once in the 1st wave so her ULT is still active after her 1st turn on the 2nd wave. If you watched carefully, the Prowler couldn't even move once so there was no debuff. Tingyun's DDD and Messenger was just there to reduce the speed requirements on Ratio, allowing him to keep using an ATK boots.
oh that is actually really good from ruan mei. About Tingyun, i will try and see whats the best setup for my current roster and relics xD
is vonwacq really that mandatory to takes turn right after the last moving character ?, or is it mandatory because of the energy ? since voncwacq + talent only trigger on the entry, but after robin use skill her next turn initial AV is 55.55 when she have 180 spd which i guess is enough ?
You get energy from doing an action on the 2nd turn so she gets her ULT early.
also may i know the exact AV different to make ratio take 3 turn in this setup ? like how u calculate robin & ratio/dps speed requirement in this setup ? @LisaraScarlet
@@Kanaerya 113 speed Ratio boosted by Tingyun's 4pc Messenger and S5 Dance3x is basically acting at pseudo 134 speed. 134 speed means 2 actions within 0-cycle. Robin adds 1 more action through her ult making Ratio act a total of 3 times, therefore, he is at pseudo 200 speed.
@@LisaraScarlet ohhh im overthinking it, so its literally just 134 ratio + 1 more action, thanks!!!
would asta work well with robin? she's been a consistent fav of mine and i've been trying to find a way to make her work. i figured she could massively lower speed requirements with her ult and DDD plus her buffs work through attacks and would proc robin concerto passive. i got e1 robin accidentally so was hoping to see if i could zero cycle with the two.
Robin only needs that super high speed at the start which Asta cannot provide. There really isn't much synergy between the two unfortunately. Even if you want to do something like fitting in 3 rotations within 1 Concerto State, the speed requirements becomes too absurd that Asta wouldn't be able to help anyways.
@@LisaraScarlet got ittt, thank you so much! really appreciate the response and your consistency as a content creator. 💗
So this setup also works in the follow up team? (Ratio, Topaz, Aventurine) Robin just needs 180 speed which is the hard part, if so what’s the speed of the other allies?
If you really want to abuse this with IPC team, then IPC team needs 134 SPD. Robin needs 180.
If you're not looking to 0-cycle, you can go for 120 SPD on IPC team and 162 SPD on Robin.
@@LisaraScarlet ok I’ll keep both setups in mind and see what I like more, rn my robin has 157 speed so I’ll try to get her to 160
so... for faster ult robin, it should go for 180 spd? what about 145 or 134?
Lower speed doesn't work well but if you are looking for a slower setup. Your team could be at 120 SPD then Robin needs 162 SPD.
That aint chalk, Thats a rocket missile
HORY BABY what IS that damage????
3 harmony characters
@@JoeBuffoon77erm actually
Dreamy, pls release a guide for Harmony Traiblazer and how much break effect should they need. Thank youuu.
I will think about it.
I have a guaranteed pity but I want jade sooo bad not sure if I should get robin and gamble on jade or just wait inpatiently while watching my E3 xuyei eidolons go away
I'd recommend Robin more due to the high value of Harmony characters especially a limited one but I can understand saving up for a character you really like. I'm also looking forward to Jade.
Why does higher speed on Ratio allow for lower speed on Robin?
The faster Ratio is, the less AV he requires to act from his 2nd action to 3rd action. You need to reverse calculate it by making sure that Ratio's 3rd action happens at 149.9 AV. With this in mind, you can imagine how Ratio's AV gets shorter and shorter as he speeds up while allowing Robin to become slower and slower.
180 SPD HOLY S**T
Lisara we need a farming guide 😭
Please help us
Will Robin be a nice support for Clara?
Should be fine. IMO it's Clara that is the problem if you are finding her performance underwhelming. It wouldn't matter how good the supports are if Clara herself holds them back.
@@LisaraScarletwant to ask, what is the best character to be added in Clara Topaz Aventurine team? Should i pull robin for this team?
@@Haru-chan6969 Definitely either Robin or Ruan Mei.
Do you think Blade would work well with Robin?
Decent I guess.
He doesn’t have good attack scalings, so the attack buff is mostly wasted. He has a followup so he does get a bit more procs of extra damage, but any other 5* harmony will just be better.
Is she worth pulling if I am not using her on follow up teams?
Still very strong outside of FUA teams.
@@LisaraScarlet that's a relief now I can pull her I hate follow up and the only exception is himeko
ok but can we get robin on a sparkle bronya setup though
Possible. I'll add it in my list.
hey im just curius why did u used ratio basic in 4:30?
Use Ratio skill there and Tingyun won't be able to use her skill.
@@LisaraScarlet u had 2 skill points
@@recker4267 Oh, I'm not sure. I was too focused making sure Tingyun could skill there I guess.
Do you think Asta is a good pair with Robin?
Hmmm. I don't think so.
@@LisaraScarlet how so? Is there some Anti Synergy between em?
@@smugweeb53 More like there's barely any synergy. Accounting the speed buff of Asta with the timings of Robin's ULTs is also gonna be hard.
so you haven't heard about huohuo+robin?
I literally wrote Huohuo as someone synergistic with Robin in my guide ...
SOHAI
Is it possible to do without her LC?
That'll depend on how good your Ratio is since Robin will buff a lot less without her signature.
@@LisaraScarlet There is more energy problems without her LC. E1 for Robin is really gives advantage even over RM so I'm thinking what to pull as well.
can you make a blade bronya sparkle robin team strategy pls?
I'll make something for Bronya Sparkle Robin but it should be fine with any carry.
@@LisaraScarlet no sp issues? Because that was the reason i said blade
@@aliounethiaw1443 Sparkle makes things a lot easier with SP.
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When Xueyi x Imaginary trailblazer 👀
Haven't gotten my Harmony TB yet.
@@LisaraScarlet I be waiting 😁
How about robin on seele 0 cycle?
Seele is just much better with Sparkle.
@@LisaraScarlet but can she?
Seele, RM, tingyun, Robin at first half
@@galihfebrianyusuf1419 Was trying it earlier. Quite difficult.
@@LisaraScarlet thank you
@@LisaraScarlet Is robin better for DoT team than RM too lisara?
LiSPD channel
Many people actually pull Robin to listen to her sing more than because she is a "harmony". Sohai~
Nah, too much relic farming
Next Robin video won't need a lot of SPD.
Lisa i want u to make video about aventurine, ratio,topaz and robin, can u do it please ?
I'll make one eventually.