We as United fans all know that Liverpool isn't going to do shit until they get new ownership. From then they need a manager like Shankly and Paisley and veteran players to step up. Until that happens its going to be us, Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham,and Man City fighting for that top spot. All the Scousers will have is memories of champions past. For us we will have trophies mounting up. Can imagine if you went back in time and told a Scouser in 1989 they wouldn't win a league cup for 20
Gerrard says Neville's celebrations were over the top?? What about him kissing the cameras? Maybe he's trying to get used to it since he'll never kiss the premier league trophy? I would have paid a million to see his face after Berba scored the winner.
to be honest if my grandma had wheels would be a bike. We werent anywhere near Barcelona, in fact, we've got ourselves a proper spanking, there was no hypotheticals about it. Bit absurd that comment from a fellow united fan. We've always been a bit rubbish in europe by our standards, fergie always had massive balls in england, but lost them when we went to the continent. Theres no doubt we've massively underperformed in the CL
years and counting. They would just laugh in face, but the sad thing is that its a reality for them. Until things change, Liverpool will continue to go down the toilet.
@4fliaid the teams may sound shit that we played, but dont forget that nottingham forest usto be a fantastic team look where they are now? just because a team is shit now doesnt mean they were shit back in the 70s or 80s
@4fliaid Though Liverpool lost in the 2007 final, they came there by beating Chelsea in a semi final (once again) and Barcelona. Don't underestimate that. I get your point, but I don't think any European Cup winners ever have met very easy opposition at any point on their way to the finals. Though there always will be some teams easier to beat than others, it's still a very tough competition - it's after all a cup with all the best European teams bunched up together.
Believe it or not there was a time in English football when there wasn't so much tribal hatred between clubs fans. So for example my grandad used to tell me that whichever English team won the league and represented England in the European Cup would usually get the support of everyone sitting @ home watching the match on television. Sure teams wanted to beat each other domestically but if other clubs fell on hard times people would rally together and help each other out. There were NONE of these chants about disasters. THEN THIS CHANGED. WHY DID THIS CHANGE? This changed because a Liverpool fan or group of Liverpool fans decided to make up a song to celebrate the deaths of 23 people in a plane crash in Munich. Now, just take a few minutes out and think about that.............................. :- 1. What was going through those Liverpool fans minds while they thought up a tune and words to go with it? 2. Why did other Liverpool fans hear this song and think, "Oh this is good, or this is funny, let's celebrate these deaths even though there were hundreds of relatives grieving for their lost fathers, husbands, brothers, sons, uncles, cousins etc" ? 3. Why did fans of other clubs like Rangers, Chelsea, West Ham, Leedscum, City etc all think, " Hey that's a fun song celebrating death, let's also sing it"? Ladies and Gentlemen, You may say this is harping back and we need to look forward and resolve the issues we find ourselves with today and to an extent I agree we need to move on. However before we can lance the boil, we need to understand what happened and WHY? IF those Liverpool supporters hadn't invented sick chanting, would anyone have even thought about making up a song about The Ibrox Disaster, the death of Davie Cooper, Jonny Doyle, Jock Stein, Bill Shankly, Don Revie, Istanbul, Heysel, Bradford, Hillsborough and others? Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't, but Liverpool started this trend. We cant change the past. What's done is done and that's the problem. We can't undo the damage that's already been done to the family and friends of Christopher Loftus and Kevin Speight who were brutally murdered in Istanbul. If you were one of their relatives would you forgive the Millwall fans who turned up at the game against Leeds in Galatasaray shirts and making stabbing gestures? Personally I would love nothing more than to be able to wave a wand and the chants would end but I've been going to football since 1973 and I know this isn't going to happen. The best we can hope for is that such strong action is taken inside stadiums that we can put an end to these songs there. These songs will sadly live on in pubs, clubs, and on the streets. Personally I've never sung about any disaster and I never will but I can't forgive those Liverpool fans who took such great pleasure in celebrating the death of 23 people. They may have been misguided but somewhere inside them was evil and they are scum. I'm still amazed though how thousands and thousands of Liverpool fans were seduced by this sickening song and blasted it out year after year after year! Make no mistake.....................this is exactly where the genuine hatred of Liverpool started. Forget all those red herrings about two city's competing and the Manchester ship canal. Do Manchester City despise everything about Everton? Do Everton despise everything about City with the same venom that Liverpool hate Man United and vice versa? Not a chance. I'm afraid those Liverpool fans represent everything that is rotten in the human race. They created the problem we have today. So when Liverpool fans start throwing abuse @ the United fans who were shouting about Heysel and The Sun newspaper, just take a minute out to remember why we have this problem today. JFT 96 and everyone who has suffered in any football tragedy anywhere!
To this day, I'm still ticked off at the fact that Man U stopped Liverpool from becoming the first English side to do the treble in 1977 when they won the F.A. Cup whereas Man U became the first English team to do the treble in 1999, and Liverpool came very close to stopping them in the F.A. Cup. That's what makes this rivalry so great. Oh well! Liverpool have won the European Cup 5 times compared to Man United's 3, so I can take comfort in that.
In all football awards liverpool has 63 trophies, and man utd 62.(european awards included).So this year will be liverpool's downfall and the end of the lie. You `ll never win anything
And don't underestimate the affect Georgie Best had on people, the first football superstar and gave Manchester United a glamorous image. Manchester United owed Best so much, but mainly for making them the most popular club in the world
I was talking to a cople from London here @ Rio de Janeiro when the english girl suddenly stopped talking to sing " We Won It Five Times" the moment she saw this one local guy wearing a Utd shirt walking on the other side of the street
@4fliaid look we beat the best team in Europe, Borussia Machenglaibach Club Brugge Real Madrid Roma AC Milan Now that last cup is at Anfield,why because we eon it 5 times along with the other trophies The most successful club in England has deal with it
but you're making predictions based on next to nothing. I'll feel the dread once we go several years without winning the league, or anything of note.... you know the feeling, right?
@4fliaid look we beat the best team in Europe, Borussia Machenglaibach Club Brugge Real Madrid Roma AC Milan Now that last cup is at Anfield,along with the other trophies The most successful club in England has deal with it
@watagoalxD 5 times Champions of Europe, how many have you got? Oh & btw if you wana see the original trophy you mancs won in `98 then visit our club museum HAHAHAHA!!!!!!
man utd were no match 4 nottingham forest in the late 70s..they won 2 successive european cups in 79 and 80 while man u won fuck all during that period
who gives a shit, nobody cares which team is better except people with no job to do. liverpool have always been a little bit of an underdog in the past decade but it has always been fun to watch them tear apart football giants. you have more money and a better squad than ours but we still beat you 3 out of the 4 last matces. this shows that its more than just football
Info, they hate man united fans because we are arrogant. i don't pretend i understand how it goes in england with the rivalry, but it was pure hatred against us
I love how Gerrard when describing the UEFA Cup is like "yeah, its nice, but its not the premiership cup"
He can kiss the cameras when he scores, but he'll never kiss the Premier League trophy.
@@3dsaulgoodman43 maybe not as a player....
Love you ferguson
Sir Alex and Sir Matt, Bob and Bill
20 TIMES 20 TIMES MAN UNITED PLAYING FOOTBALL THE BUSBY WAY
Stephen Gerrard the greatest "LOSER" in premiership history .....
united are on 3 european cups now, and counting, this is old, united have won loads more trophies since this programme was shown!
2008: next year will be our year!
2018: next year will be our year!
When will your year be now? 12 years since a European Cup... 7 Years since a Premiership...... Don't worry, next year will be your year, lol.
We as United fans all know that Liverpool isn't going to do shit until they get new ownership. From then they need a manager like Shankly and Paisley and veteran players to step up. Until that happens its going to be us, Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham,and Man City fighting for that top spot. All the Scousers will have is memories of champions past. For us we will have trophies mounting up. Can imagine if you went back in time and told a Scouser in 1989 they wouldn't win a league cup for 20
Gerrard says Neville's celebrations were over the top?? What about him kissing the cameras? Maybe he's trying to get used to it since he'll never kiss the premier league trophy? I would have paid a million to see his face after Berba scored the winner.
Man Utd the most successful English club. Been until 1973 and now back since 2011. Always in our shadow scousers!
stfu mate 5 european cups !
Stfu mate 20 league titles!
how many european? we won it 5 times
How many titles? We won it 20 times. How many trophies? We've won 62!
Pool actually have more major honours (excluding super cups and community shields). Pool 41 - united 39
Make that 3 at united 😂😂😂 and still 0 premier leagues
Nearly changing gobshite... How long now, 7 years?
to be honest if my grandma had wheels would be a bike. We werent anywhere near Barcelona, in fact, we've got ourselves a proper spanking, there was no hypotheticals about it. Bit absurd that comment from a fellow united fan. We've always been a bit rubbish in europe by our standards, fergie always had massive balls in england, but lost them when we went to the continent. Theres no doubt we've massively underperformed in the CL
True I guess but Barcelona were the best team in the world. But Ferguson should of won it four times
years and counting. They would just laugh in face, but the sad thing is that its a reality for them. Until things change, Liverpool will continue to go down the toilet.
@4fliaid the teams may sound shit that we played, but dont forget that nottingham forest usto be a fantastic team look where they are now? just because a team is shit now doesnt mean they were shit back in the 70s or 80s
@4fliaid Though Liverpool lost in the 2007 final, they came there by beating Chelsea in a semi final (once again) and Barcelona. Don't underestimate that.
I get your point, but I don't think any European Cup winners ever have met very easy opposition at any point on their way to the finals. Though there always will be some teams easier to beat than others, it's still a very tough competition - it's after all a cup with all the best European teams bunched up together.
Believe it or not there was a time in English football when there wasn't so much tribal hatred between clubs fans. So for example my grandad used to tell me that whichever English team won the league and represented England in the European Cup would usually get the support of everyone sitting @ home watching the match on television. Sure teams wanted to beat each other domestically but if other clubs fell on hard times people would rally together and help each other out. There were NONE of these chants about disasters.
THEN THIS CHANGED.
WHY DID THIS CHANGE?
This changed because a Liverpool fan or group of Liverpool fans decided to make up a song to celebrate the deaths of 23 people in a plane crash in Munich.
Now, just take a few minutes out and think about that.............................. :-
1. What was going through those Liverpool fans minds while they thought up a tune and words to go with it?
2. Why did other Liverpool fans hear this song and think, "Oh this is good, or this is funny, let's celebrate these deaths even though there were hundreds of relatives grieving for their lost fathers, husbands, brothers, sons, uncles, cousins etc" ?
3. Why did fans of other clubs like Rangers, Chelsea, West Ham, Leedscum, City etc all think, " Hey that's a fun song celebrating death, let's also sing it"?
Ladies and Gentlemen, You may say this is harping back and we need to look forward and resolve the issues we find ourselves with today and to an extent I agree we need to move on. However before we can lance the boil, we need to understand what happened and WHY?
IF those Liverpool supporters hadn't invented sick chanting, would anyone have even thought about making up a song about The Ibrox Disaster, the death of Davie Cooper, Jonny Doyle, Jock Stein, Bill Shankly, Don Revie, Istanbul, Heysel, Bradford, Hillsborough and others? Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't, but Liverpool started this trend.
We cant change the past. What's done is done and that's the problem. We can't undo the damage that's already been done to the family and friends of Christopher Loftus and Kevin Speight who were brutally murdered in Istanbul. If you were one of their relatives would you forgive the Millwall fans who turned up at the game against Leeds in Galatasaray shirts and making stabbing gestures?
Personally I would love nothing more than to be able to wave a wand and the chants would end but I've been going to football since 1973 and I know this isn't going to happen. The best we can hope for is that such strong action is taken inside stadiums that we can put an end to these songs there. These songs will sadly live on in pubs, clubs, and on the streets. Personally I've never sung about any disaster and I never will but I can't forgive those Liverpool fans who took such great pleasure in celebrating the death of 23 people. They may have been misguided but somewhere inside them was evil and they are scum. I'm still amazed though how thousands and thousands of Liverpool fans were seduced by this sickening song and blasted it out year after year after year! Make no mistake.....................this is exactly where the genuine hatred of Liverpool started. Forget all those red herrings about two city's competing and the Manchester ship canal. Do Manchester City despise everything about Everton? Do Everton despise everything about City with the same venom that Liverpool hate Man United and vice versa? Not a chance.
I'm afraid those Liverpool fans represent everything that is rotten in the human race. They created the problem we have today. So when Liverpool fans start throwing abuse @ the United fans who were shouting about Heysel and The Sun newspaper, just take a minute out to remember why we have this problem today.
JFT 96 and everyone who has suffered in any football tragedy anywhere!
Fuck off you nerdy bastard
No está alguna versión en español de esta serie? please!
To this day, I'm still ticked off at the fact that Man U stopped Liverpool from becoming the first English side to do the treble in 1977 when they won the F.A. Cup whereas Man U became the first English team to do the treble in 1999, and Liverpool came very close to stopping them in the F.A. Cup. That's what makes this rivalry so great. Oh well! Liverpool have won the European Cup 5 times compared to Man United's 3, so I can take comfort in that.
In all football awards liverpool has 63 trophies, and man utd 62.(european awards included).So this year will be liverpool's downfall and the end of the lie. You `ll never win anything
haha 5x...a shame they are not even in europe now. i can still remember when liverpool used to laugh at us about their league wins...hahaha
@DaviUFF It's the only thing they have left to cling onto!
Liverpool the city of music, Manchester the city of football 20 times PL Champion's & you'll never win a treble Liverpool.
Twice we've won a treble you dope
United was more glamorous because United believes in playing the kids winning the league with styles... Busby Babes and Fergie Fledgling
And don't underestimate the affect Georgie Best had on people, the first football superstar and gave Manchester United a glamorous image. Manchester United owed Best so much, but mainly for making them the most popular club in the world
Liverpool have never won the premiership
I was talking to a cople from London here @ Rio de Janeiro when the english girl suddenly stopped talking to sing " We Won It Five Times" the moment she saw this one local guy wearing a Utd shirt walking on the other side of the street
68 99 08 were only two behind now
jed l Liverpool 6 Manchester 3
Never understood why shankley and paisley were not knighted
didnt deserve to be
The gassing incident was in 85/86 at anfield
Gerrard held back Liverpool back for so many years. He was in control of that club and akways causing a distraction with his should i sign or not!
@watagoalxD already have
We, Manchester United FC, have won 3 European cups
And? So what?
not twice, 3 times now
we are Liverpool tralala the best fotball team in the world
can you borrow me your cristal ball?, I want to buy some lottery tickets
@4fliaid look we beat the best team in Europe,
Borussia Machenglaibach
Club Brugge
Real Madrid
Roma
AC Milan
Now that last cup is at Anfield,why because we eon it 5 times along with the other trophies The most successful club in England has
deal with it
but you're making predictions based on next to nothing. I'll feel the dread once we go several years without winning the league, or anything of note.... you know the feeling, right?
won it 3 times ;)
@4fliaid look we beat the best team in Europe,
Borussia Machenglaibach
Club Brugge
Real Madrid
Roma
AC Milan
Now that last cup is at Anfield,along with the other trophies The most successful club in England has
deal with it
man utd is the most successful english club
Souness is an absolute sausage
This is such a biased. Program towards Liverpool
thats just like saying if we wouldve won the 2 finals we lost we would be 4 ahead of united ........
To man utd fans; liverpool 41-37 man utd trophies, you'll never walk alone!!!
that even close even back then its lfc 70 man utd 69
@watagoalxD 5 european cups, 18 leagues, so we havent won anything have we?
at that time not really
@watagoalxD
5 times Champions of Europe, how many have you got?
Oh & btw if you wana see the original trophy you mancs won in `98 then visit our club museum HAHAHAHA!!!!!!
man utd were no match 4 nottingham forest in the late 70s..they won 2 successive european cups in 79 and 80 while man u won fuck all during that period
GGMU 💚💛
Why would anyone from Liverpool be knighted?? They haven't had anyone that done anything special
yer nobody has ever won the "PREMIRSHIP".
who gives a shit, nobody cares which team is better except people with no job to do. liverpool have always been a little bit of an underdog in the past decade but it has always been fun to watch them tear apart football giants. you have more money and a better squad than ours but we still beat you 3 out of the 4 last matces. this shows that its more than just football
at 7:47 god you're good looking-lmao
I mean manu won the european cup 3 times, not twice
Is Graham Souness homosexual? I know he was best mates with dale winton. Dont matter if is just wondering
MANCHESTER UNITED 20 LEAGUES.
OH AND Liverpool have NEVVER won the PREMIRSHIP.
Nice man! But we have 6 European Cups! 6x3
jelly and ice cream when fergie dies??
you'll neveeeer wiiiiin the league!
@slitheen...Then you are calling Chelski a great team..,...Fuck no...
hahahaha woooooo we love you barca !! only one mascherano !!!!!!
hala madridddd
Yes, ain't that great! Muchos gracias, Barcelona! LOL
Some comedy posts from folks not even from Britain, let alone the north-west of England.
Info, they hate man united fans because we are arrogant. i don't pretend i understand how it goes in england with the rivalry, but it was pure hatred against us
massively biased documentary