Baldur's Gate 3 - Don't let Lae'zel do THIS one thing

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  • čas přidán 18. 08. 2023
  • In Baldur's Gate 3, you will sooner or later reach the Githyanki Creche, where you will have to make a choice that can severely impact either Lae'zel or your own character if you don't do it right.
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Komentáře • 680

  • @Effaly_
    @Effaly_ Před 10 měsíci +588

    That's why I love my Guardian so much: "Let me help!" *things explode* He's just like me. 😂

    • @L33C333
      @L33C333 Před 10 měsíci +18

      😬

    • @ivirana0
      @ivirana0 Před 10 měsíci +15

      Come back later to let us know if you still love him.....

    • @Effaly_
      @Effaly_ Před 10 měsíci +7

      @@ivirana0 I do. I think he's one of the most interesting characters in the game.

    • @kena4977
      @kena4977 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@ivirana0enough to romance her....

    • @ivirana0
      @ivirana0 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@Effaly_ have you read the notes on his little table yet? I like my red flags like any other, heck I live for troubled and dramatic love interests BUT he/she/they are on a whole new level...

  • @DrugDealer541
    @DrugDealer541 Před 5 měsíci +69

    You can convince Lae'Zel to use the tadpoles, and when she uses one she removes the debufs. A note was added in patch 1.0 that said "You can now cure the zaith'isk debuffs with tadpoles"

    • @DrugDealer541
      @DrugDealer541 Před 5 měsíci +3

      I just confirmed this myself. It only takes one to remove all 3, favorable beginnings is really good for her.

    • @seePyou
      @seePyou Před měsícem +1

      Was looking for this, as this is what I did during my playthrough.

  • @headnathan
    @headnathan Před 10 měsíci +337

    If you let Lae’Zel Go first, succeed your throws, and use succeed the illithid throw. You get the awakened mind w/o gaining debuffs on Lae’Zel

    • @mastercc4509
      @mastercc4509 Před 10 měsíci +57

      ANYONE SEARCHING READ THIS IGNORE THE VIDEO !!!!!!!

    • @justingovas415
      @justingovas415 Před 9 měsíci +23

      ​@@mastercc4509they are both useful ideas. Wouldn't ignore the video.

    • @mastercc4509
      @mastercc4509 Před 9 měsíci

      why would you gimp Laezel when you can get the buff without damaging her?@@justingovas415

    • @storytellerdragon2711
      @storytellerdragon2711 Před 9 měsíci +9

      I did this, i got the debuffs on laezel, but i was able to get rid of them. Trouble is i don't remember how. Either a restoration spell or remove curse.

    • @flakdampler11
      @flakdampler11 Před 9 měsíci +6

      Does this still work? I only got one check and Lae’zel got off. She didn’t have a debuff and I didn’t have a buff

  • @SYSyphysDelta
    @SYSyphysDelta Před 10 měsíci +25

    "You're hurting! Let me help."
    *Gigantic explosion*

  • @WarlordBailthur
    @WarlordBailthur Před 9 měsíci +339

    Laezel can actually do this event just fine. You can convince her to hold strong and she uses her prayer to get through the event and doesnt have debuffs. (Side note: I was also githyanki so I had special dialogue options) Allowing her to do this helps convince her Vlaakith is no ally. She stays blind to it at first but later revelations go much smoother.

    • @Lunamana
      @Lunamana Před 8 měsíci +18

      I am pretty sure this is also the route i went through as a half-elf companion of hers, i just care about bae zel too much to let her suffer :(
      Nevermind, i actually just checked it and she only has the intelligence debuff, so i guess the debuffs depend on how far you go with it ? Oh well, i don't know every possible option but convincing her that vlaakith is an enemy wasn't too hard for me, even as someone who doesn't have any charisma, this game has so much depth to it.

    • @rashidfarhan6223
      @rashidfarhan6223 Před 8 měsíci +9

      @@Lunamana you can always use disguise spell to get access to gith dialog options

    • @beckawilk
      @beckawilk Před 8 měsíci +16

      I let Laezel go first and used my tadpole power to sense her mind and got the prayer option (I am a wood elf) my Lae zel got out without any damage.

    • @zackfair6791
      @zackfair6791 Před 6 měsíci +4

      For me she only had the -2 intelligence debuff. Shouldn't affect her too much seeing as she is not a caster for me.

    • @daniellivingstone
      @daniellivingstone Před 6 měsíci +3

      Agreed ​@@zackfair6791.
      Int penalty had no impact at all on the game. She's in my party for her killing ability and overall badass attitude - not her smarts!

  • @Webhead123
    @Webhead123 Před 10 měsíci +1197

    It's cheating technically but if you're trying to keep a good reputation with Lae'zel while also avoiding the terrible debuffs, there is a way to do it. Let Lae'zel sit in the chair but when the first dialogue option appears, switch to a different party member and move a box or some other object around in the infirmary. The doctor will notice and warn you against stealing, which cancels the previous dialogue. Now, you can have your main character sit in the chair and play out the scene normally but without upsetting Lae'zel. Win-win!

    • @TheCrimsonRevenger
      @TheCrimsonRevenger Před 10 měsíci +162

      You sir, are a damned treasure. I award you all the points and I celebrate your life.

    • @JB-xl2jc
      @JB-xl2jc Před 10 měsíci +177

      I gave the middle option, something like "You'd be dead without me. I've earned the right- I'm going first."
      She responded something like "You walk the line of confidence and arrogance... and you walk it skillfully. Very well, you will go first. I will go after."
      I also had pretty high approval already with her though.

    • @TheCrimsonRevenger
      @TheCrimsonRevenger Před 10 měsíci +6

      @@JB-xl2jc So no approval hit? Hmm.

    • @JB-xl2jc
      @JB-xl2jc Před 10 měsíci +146

      @@TheCrimsonRevenger Actually I got positive approval! Lae'zel seems to appreciate people who stand up for themselves as long as they're reliably able to back it up and aren't just full of bluster.

    • @fistimusmaximus6576
      @fistimusmaximus6576 Před 10 měsíci +13

      If you stop her when you get the first option she doesnt suffer from debuff.

  • @60weHoodsta
    @60weHoodsta Před 9 měsíci +110

    One of the most hurtful decisions in the game. The fact that most of us didnt know until hours later hurts the most.

  • @thcwub3387
    @thcwub3387 Před 9 měsíci +204

    Side note, you can get the debuffs removed by casting greater restoration. So shadowheart has you covered by level 9.

    • @MrLUUK3
      @MrLUUK3 Před 9 měsíci +8

      did not work for me

    • @zanmatox3187
      @zanmatox3187 Před 8 měsíci +4

      doesn't work

    • @neverknowsbest1717
      @neverknowsbest1717 Před 8 měsíci +18

      Lying for fun, are we?

    • @thcwub3387
      @thcwub3387 Před 8 měsíci +11

      @@neverknowsbest1717 I was not, no. I checked my saves after the first comment reply saying it didnt work. Definitely worked. Also definitely did not work on my latest/current playthrough. I'll post some screenies for you.

    • @neverknowsbest1717
      @neverknowsbest1717 Před 8 měsíci

      @@thcwub3387 lmao its not that serious

  • @kevindenis9551
    @kevindenis9551 Před 8 měsíci +11

    It honestly would’ve been awesome if that device actually worked, allowing you to go through the rest of the game uncorrupted with no brain worm powers for the whole party. No longer dreading the possibility of turning into a squid man would make sleeping a hell of a lot more enjoyable, maybe even boost everyone’s morale and fight better, lol.

  • @KasumiRINA
    @KasumiRINA Před 19 dny +1

    I noticed this game takes from Planescape Torment: if you have an option to permanently mutilate your body, always take it. Tav gets buffs from a brand like Nameless One tattoos, losing your eye is bonus exactly like there, and eating tadpoles is like consuming your own organs in PST.

  • @fangikun1791
    @fangikun1791 Před 10 měsíci +152

    I knew the massive approval burst with letting Lae'zel used the machine was too good to be true xD

    • @clownworld4655
      @clownworld4655 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Just let her use it then immediately convince her to leave the machine

    • @Swifeaf
      @Swifeaf Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​@@clownworld4655but then you wouldn't get the buff, right?

    • @clownworld4655
      @clownworld4655 Před 10 měsíci +17

      @@Swifeaf yup. Either you use the machine and pass all the checks to get the buff (which i didn’t know about at the time) or have her use it then immediately bail out for a huge approval boost from her

    • @Swifeaf
      @Swifeaf Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@clownworld4655 I see. Well, I imagine there would be plenty of other ways to increase her approval, so I think I know what I'm picking 😈

    • @lucasistrom
      @lucasistrom Před 10 měsíci +8

      @@clownworld4655 Easier said than done, its a DC 30 check to convince her to leave. At level 5 with 18 Charisma and expertise in Persuasion and I still need a natural 20 to pass that one.

  • @DillonMeyer
    @DillonMeyer Před 10 měsíci +84

    In my current playthrough of just an OC Gith'Yanki and Lae'Zel alone on the journey with no other companions, this section was very different narratively. I also learned that if you go into turn based combat and kill/knock out the doctor before she escapes the room, the rest of the fortress will not be alerted to you and not be hostile, letting you go to the Inquisitor and have a 2 on 1 chat with Vlaakith as a loyal follower.

    • @Hirotoro4692
      @Hirotoro4692 Před 10 měsíci +18

      The rest of the crèche doesn't get alerted anyway. Only the infirmary outside the zaith'isk chamber turns hostile...

    • @garygood6804
      @garygood6804 Před 8 měsíci

      When I went to the cresh, I went room by room and murdered everyone. Didn't even bother talking to anyone. Murder all the way.

    • @Zambedos
      @Zambedos Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@Hirotoro4692 When I got out I told the doctor the tadpole died, but failed the roll. She locked the door & came back with guards -saying my deception is proof I'm falling sway to the Ghaik. When I suceeded that check, she just let me leave fine. I did still have one more fight between that & the inquisitor, though.

  • @KaiserSoze679
    @KaiserSoze679 Před 10 měsíci +129

    A couple small corrections:
    1) The Creche is still in Act 1, not 2. Act 2 begins with your arrival in the Shadowcursed Lands.*
    2) It's not "the one and only Zai'thisk" - it's heavily implied that there are many, possibly even one in every Creche.
    *Edit: It seems a lot of people get confused by the "You're about to progress your adventure...." warning when you go to enter the Mountain Pass. That's a trigger point that can cause the druid grove plot to advance, but it is NOT the act-change. if each of those warnings meant a change in acts, the game would have 4 acts, and 2 would be JUST the Mountain Pass (and entirely skippable).
    Larian themselves made it clear when the acts change, because there's an achievement for each - and the "Enter Act 2" achievement pops when you enter the Shadow-cursed Lands.

    • @UNDEADaaron
      @UNDEADaaron Před 10 měsíci +13

      No it's in act 2 the instant you pass the mountain pass in game you trigger act 2 and their is only one Zai'thisk in the game because you only visit one Creche

    • @Legoman775
      @Legoman775 Před 10 měsíci +37

      @@UNDEADaaron nope, as soon as you enter the shadowlands that is act 2

    • @10vitesse
      @10vitesse Před 9 měsíci +9

      ​@@UNDEADaaronact 1 still yup

    • @anarchicbean5888
      @anarchicbean5888 Před 9 měsíci +6

      your comment needs more likes, i was confused when they said act 2. Need people to see that theyre safe from act 2 spoilers

    • @robertkarp2070
      @robertkarp2070 Před 9 měsíci +4

      No, when you select to enter the Mountain Pass they tell you to make sure to tie up loose ends because some content act 1 will be gone. That means you are going from one act to the other.

  • @bacchus8081
    @bacchus8081 Před 10 měsíci +13

    Ahhh that's why Mind Blast is a bonus action on my PC, but not my other party members! I didn't even know I had the awakened buff and that was confusing the heck out of me (but it's sooooo good!) xD

  • @JaelinBezel
    @JaelinBezel Před 4 měsíci +2

    Yeah well Loviatar’s love was also a permanent buff but it went away after I died in the boat fight to Grymforge. Lae’Zel did too. I’ll need to check if she has that.

  • @lucidd4103
    @lucidd4103 Před 10 měsíci +24

    This one was the most upsetting one in the entire game, especially because i only saw it at the end of act2 when i tried to respec her into a strength monk where all 3 stats are the most important.

  • @mattklein5728
    @mattklein5728 Před 2 měsíci

    I just did this part and did exactly what you did and than your vid came up in recommendations. It seems trusting my instincts paid off ciz I went first and succeeded in all my rolls, but didn't know about the buff bonus so thanks.

  • @ChiruYES
    @ChiruYES Před 10 měsíci +134

    I took a long rest without realizing Lae’zel had left the party to approach and talk to the Githyanki group by herself. When we left camp she was dead at their feet. Sneaking my character said in a whisper “killed by her own people”. Looking forward to the second play through where she stays alive LOL.

    • @Scrydragon
      @Scrydragon Před 10 měsíci +7

      What did she say when you resurrected her?

    • @sadektom
      @sadektom Před 10 měsíci +24

      In that way you cant resurrect her. Spell doesnt work :(

    • @ChiruYES
      @ChiruYES Před 10 měsíci +14

      @@Scrydragon she’s dead dead. Can’t resurrect her.

    • @AleksandrStrizhevskiy
      @AleksandrStrizhevskiy Před 10 měsíci +3

      You didn't want to reload?

    • @robinhood7293
      @robinhood7293 Před 10 měsíci +21

      @@AleksandrStrizhevskiy stick with your decisions in life and learn from them

  • @IloveJellow
    @IloveJellow Před 10 měsíci +52

    the awakened buff is actually pretty good if you wish to use the powers.

    • @guywithdreads
      @guywithdreads Před 9 měsíci

      I’m pretty sure if you keep doing that you’ll turn into a mindflayer boss. Good luck tho

    • @GZilla311
      @GZilla311 Před 9 měsíci +5

      @@guywithdreadsI got all of the powers, and didn’t turn into a mind flayer.
      They hint at bad consequences but in my experience rarely follow through on the subtle ones. See also the Thayan book.

    • @guywithdreads
      @guywithdreads Před 9 měsíci

      @@GZilla311 aww dammit I was saving that for a playthrough but I guess I’m just barely disappointed at hearing that

    • @Vorment
      @Vorment Před 5 měsíci

      @@guywithdreads you dont become illithid unless you choose to. You can become, half-ilithid if u fail a dice roll later, resulting in ... well, black eyes with fucked up black/purple vines which totally fuck up your looks. Or u can choose to become half illithid.
      Being able to fly on demand is quite overpowered

    • @winchestersons6258
      @winchestersons6258 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@Vormenttrue. I fly everywhere and it does feel op

  • @simonmagid4205
    @simonmagid4205 Před 10 měsíci +46

    If you can convince Lae'zel to make use of illithid powers, giving her a parasite power also cancels the debuffs.

    • @skerga-3143
      @skerga-3143 Před 10 měsíci +2

      it's a special perk from the parasite? the debuffs are still here

    • @guywithdreads
      @guywithdreads Před 9 měsíci

      I’m not ready for a parasite play through yet

    • @guywithdreads
      @guywithdreads Před 9 měsíci

      I’ve been avoiding using illithid wisdom in dialogue checks. Even the 1st one. I just left shadowheart onThe nautiloid

  • @PaladinLarec
    @PaladinLarec Před 10 měsíci +83

    I did, but failed a saving throw and her INT went down. I just re-specc'ed her into a monk and pumped her WIS and STR up and gave her the 18 Dex gloves. She now fights WAY better

    • @sertandoom4693
      @sertandoom4693 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Nice plan B.

    • @celuiquipeut6527
      @celuiquipeut6527 Před 10 měsíci +3

      I build her battlemaster/berzerker with tavern brawler and great weapon fighter. With the throw ring.
      She basically jump everywhere on the battlefield and can throw all the magic weapon i cant use because of my group composition: lance, spear and axes.
      Having her throw a great axe to a goblin is higly satisfactory.

    • @geralddavis5628
      @geralddavis5628 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Another plan B save game till you get the saving throws right

    • @celuiquipeut6527
      @celuiquipeut6527 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@geralddavis5628 Save scumming is lame. You moght want to do it in your first run. But i still prefer to roll with what happens. A lot more fun. Otherwise whats the point of even rolling??

    • @geralddavis5628
      @geralddavis5628 Před 10 měsíci +22

      @@celuiquipeut6527 um all games have save points in order to restart with better gear, choices and equipment. why would anyone want negative stats or end the game early on bad choices? If you prefer to play it out, by all means, that is your choice but saves are there for a reason

  • @shawngillogly6873
    @shawngillogly6873 Před 10 měsíci +24

    Well, I will have to do this for my Embrace the Power Durge run. But being a Pally this run, the PC has the front line covered. I actually threw Lae'zal and Karlach a couple levels of rogue so they could deal with traps and locks, since I may have disposed of someone early in Act1.

    • @celuiquipeut6527
      @celuiquipeut6527 Před 10 měsíci +1

      My PC is also a pally. Funfact warl9ck pact of the blade give you CHA stat BONUS. Meaning it count your STR and ADD your CHA. I stead of using the CHA like in the table top. So i am doing a Pal/warlock.
      Astarion is thief/ranger.
      Laezel is battlemaster
      Shadowheart is life cleric/spore druid for that necromancer/dark side cleric roleplay.
      So far i am having a blast!

    • @celuiquipeut6527
      @celuiquipeut6527 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I made my Karlach a 3eldricht knight/3 berzerker/3 rogue, i get to throw with the bonus action...its pretty buated. And fun.
      I made her lile a Thor...but with Fire instead. Throwing that fire handaxe for now. With the ring and tavern brawler. Its amazing! Gave her medium armor and a shield.
      I wasnt expecting me to do that...

    • @Galf506
      @Galf506 Před 10 měsíci

      You don't need levels in rogue to dispose of traps, you just need decent DEX and the gloves of thievery you can buy from the zhentarim. That's all.

    • @ejkalegal3145
      @ejkalegal3145 Před 8 měsíci

      What would any sane human being play the same game all over again? Weird.

    • @celuiquipeut6527
      @celuiquipeut6527 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@ejkalegal3145 Because its fun to see what a different character, with sifferent answers would be. Thats the whole point of these games.

  • @cloud5buster
    @cloud5buster Před 8 měsíci +36

    If Lae'zel does get the debuffs, there are three parasite samples in the room. Feed them all to Lae'zel and it cures her stats right up in addition to giving her the listed powers.

    • @Fuzz82
      @Fuzz82 Před 8 měsíci +1

      What if she refuses?

    • @cloud5buster
      @cloud5buster Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@Fuzz82 I didn't have any trouble talking her into it, so I don't know.

    • @Pelikan1490
      @Pelikan1490 Před 5 měsíci

      one is enough

    • @saigyl9149
      @saigyl9149 Před 5 měsíci

      i tried giving her tadpoles before and it did not fix laezel

    • @PickledShark
      @PickledShark Před 19 dny

      @@saigyl9149
      Apparently it was part of a patch to the game

  • @LookAtThatBrick
    @LookAtThatBrick Před 10 měsíci +17

    Wow I was literally saying to myself “why is lae’zel so bad now” nice vid man, never would have caught that

    • @TheSeeker225
      @TheSeeker225 Před 10 měsíci

      That debuff seems pretty harsh. It should be until long rest.

  • @Syntax1963A
    @Syntax1963A Před 8 měsíci

    LoL, thank you , what an strange incidence I just passed this point in the game - just a few minutes later - and I did not even realize this. Thank you that you saved my gameplay because without you I would not know - and now I am able to go back to my safe of just a few minutes earlier.

  • @hailothgaming
    @hailothgaming Před 9 měsíci +5

    Man it sometimes saddens me how much I've missed in Baldurs Gate 3 so far but then I see videos like this and am happy I made the right choice without even realizing it, at the time I was here, I saved beforehand but chose the path that would allow me to go first, not just because I wanted to "Impress" her in the game, but also because I figured that this "Purification" is vague to the actual function of the machine, I threw myself in the chair because I knew that I wasn't going to die just like that, I wasn't sure if my dream visitor was going to protect Lae'Zel so Instead, knowing she would most likely try and protect me, I put myself as the "Test Subject", I had this same kind of Success with Shadowhearts Shar Trials and I'm super glad I can have genuine "rare" moments in games for myself, even when it feels like I'm so average I'm actually below average.

    • @marcusweathers3070
      @marcusweathers3070 Před 9 měsíci +1

      You knew you weren't going to die "just like that"? My guy, this game will kill your main character without hesitation.

    • @hailothgaming
      @hailothgaming Před 9 měsíci

      @@marcusweathers3070 Wrong. You can easily get your characters to the end without death. Just gotta play smart.

    • @marcusweathers3070
      @marcusweathers3070 Před 9 měsíci

      @@hailothgaming Not what I was saying, but that's nice. I agree.

    • @rabbitknight87
      @rabbitknight87 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@hailothgamingit's more the "your character doesn't get 100% plot armor" there are still bad end choices.

    • @hailothgaming
      @hailothgaming Před 7 měsíci

      @@rabbitknight87 I know.

  • @DavidRinehart3369
    @DavidRinehart3369 Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks, I couldn't figure out the best way for this to play out.

  • @jgeekymcgeekface8990
    @jgeekymcgeekface8990 Před 10 měsíci +52

    I realized several hours into the game that I had crippled lae'zel. Sice the dc's were 30 (practically impossible) I thought the game intended me to fail and continue. They never notify the player the permanent damage you're making and they don't let you heal lae'zel with a high level spell ehich kinda breaks table top rules.

    • @cinifiend
      @cinifiend Před 10 měsíci +12

      Same thing happened to me, I'm in act3 and just noticed now. I was angry for about 30 seconds, then I realized that all of my characters are insanely overpowered right now and I haven't even come close to actually losing a fight in around the last 30 hours so it doesn't matter much.

    • @Kuroganemk2
      @Kuroganemk2 Před 10 měsíci +2

      yeah I noticed after completing the whole area, she had all -2 to 3 stats lol But I just used for this area so it doesn't matter and replaced her back with Karlach again. Think if you roll a nat 20 you can get it done even if you don't have 30 points the normal way. So a lot of reloading lol

    • @ElidanVideos
      @ElidanVideos Před 10 měsíci

      @@Kuroganemk2 exactrly what we did. used that useless rude idiot to get Awakened for ourselves and swapped her back for big hot momma. That debuff will teach her humility

    • @WoVic
      @WoVic Před 9 měsíci

      Convice her to use a tadpole, you can even keep trying until you convice her > stats restored@@Kuroganemk2

    • @PickledShark
      @PickledShark Před 19 dny

      No, I passed all the checks and still got the debuffs on her.

  • @Serelor
    @Serelor Před 10 měsíci +8

    Damn, I wish I would've known about the buff from going in yourself first. I just entered Act III so my last save from the creche was a longggg time ago

  • @silverblade357
    @silverblade357 Před 10 měsíci

    This will come in handy on my Dark Urge/Tadpole playthrough.

  • @xIronwafflexx
    @xIronwafflexx Před 10 měsíci +8

    It also gives you a heal power buff, that when someone is taken to zero, they are instead healed rather than downed. I had that power after doing this, and I have yet to use a tadpole to unlock the skill tree.

    • @AlmostMeantToBe
      @AlmostMeantToBe Před 10 měsíci +4

      Thats from the mind flayer in the under dark, if u drank his potion you gain that.

    • @xIronwafflexx
      @xIronwafflexx Před 10 měsíci

      According to wiki, it's from "Succeed on 3 Illithid Wisdom Skill Checks, then rest until you receive a dream cutscene." So I guess depending on when you do your illithid wisdom checks, depends on when you get the power for survival instinct.@@AlmostMeantToBe

    • @guywithdreads
      @guywithdreads Před 9 měsíci +2

      That’s the power omellum gives you bro.

  • @Zelleynor
    @Zelleynor Před 10 měsíci +10

    im not completely sure but Lae'zel might attack you if you demand to go first if your approval is not high enough. And you can still get the awakened passive even if she goes first but at the cost of permanent debuffs for Lae'zel.

    • @queeffersthrlnd1620
      @queeffersthrlnd1620 Před 10 měsíci

      she leaves if you rep was not already almost maxed and decide to not let her do it

  • @Mustang-wt1se
    @Mustang-wt1se Před 9 měsíci +1

    If you don't care about the awakened. As a gith you can let her go 1st and the special dialogue makes her approve each time and gets no debuf, or I think no debuf, would have to go back and check

  • @corymerritt9100
    @corymerritt9100 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I let lae'zel sit in the chair first, and ultimately helped break her out from the outside. My PC got the bonus action Awakened feature, but I don't know if lae'zel got any debuffs. I'll have to check when I get home.

  • @MatthewTheWanderer
    @MatthewTheWanderer Před 4 měsíci +1

    Also, don't piss off Vlaa'kith or she might end you!

  • @fluffyshiva393
    @fluffyshiva393 Před 2 měsíci

    I am soon moving to do just this quest so am glad i checked this ty

  • @SatoruJesusIII
    @SatoruJesusIII Před 10 měsíci +1

    Well im looking forward to getting some cool new bonus actions on my next play through

  • @stopthink7202
    @stopthink7202 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Thanks for the warning. I have not yet reached that point in the game but knowing how to avoid those permanent debuffs is well worth the relatively tiny spoiler.

  • @penguins0301
    @penguins0301 Před 10 měsíci +18

    In my playthrough, I was surprised because she supported me to go first. She talked to me in a soft voice and she was very nice about it . I think i can't play without Lae'zel now

    • @Nox_Atra
      @Nox_Atra Před 10 měsíci +14

      probably you have a better relationship with her :D

  • @travishunstable5283
    @travishunstable5283 Před 9 měsíci

    Hey Mr Hulthen I’m loving this game and I’m curious will you be covering the other big game to come out in sept mk1 or ya know anything that’s not midfield??

  • @Chad6o
    @Chad6o Před 9 měsíci +1

    Good work dude, I just watched 3 creche walkthroughs and NOT one of them touched this aspect.

  • @barrybrindle6959
    @barrybrindle6959 Před 9 měsíci

    Excellent info thanks. Just arrived at the creche, my lucky day lol

  • @lyntonfleming
    @lyntonfleming Před 14 dny

    You can also remove the debuff by eating a tadpole. 2 tadpoles completely removes the debuffs.

  • @levirushing
    @levirushing Před 6 měsíci

    You can use Tadpoles to get rid of the debuffs. You need three to get rid of all 3 debuffs and you can steal the three that are in that same room the machine is in.

  • @Nerd704
    @Nerd704 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Went back and looked and yep My Lae'zel has a reduced intelligence debuff. This doesn't make a ton of difference as I didn't have her as an eldritch knight build but it is interesting.

  • @callumprice1710
    @callumprice1710 Před 10 měsíci

    I just couldnt find the chair and just convinced lazeal to ignore it.

  • @WordasBond
    @WordasBond Před 10 měsíci +13

    I literally just finished this quest but I did it for the story, cuz I don’t really travel with Lae’zel very much

    • @AleksandrStrizhevskiy
      @AleksandrStrizhevskiy Před 10 měsíci

      That sucks. Shes supper awesome. And the debuff really don't hurt her that much.

    • @shallchairsitfallen
      @shallchairsitfallen Před 10 měsíci +2

      Same thing I can’t stand her attitude she get replaced by karlach

    • @gindamusic1296
      @gindamusic1296 Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​@@shallchairsitfallenAYYYY same, Karlach is a way better companion. Laezel annoyed the ever living shit outta me, so I ended up killing her super early and haven't revived her. She's just laying dead in my camp lol.

  • @LinusWilson
    @LinusWilson Před 10 měsíci

    Great explanation😊

  • @Kekso666
    @Kekso666 Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks man, I really appreciate it

  • @SirDankleberry
    @SirDankleberry Před 9 měsíci

    I got lost in the dungeon and ended up at the end with the Inquisitor trying to kill me and me having to fight my way through everything only to find out I missed the infirmary, switched Lae'zel out for Astarion and sat in the chair, succeeded on all the saving throws and broke the thing while my tadpole evolved or some shit.

  • @r1ckNz
    @r1ckNz Před 10 měsíci +1

    Ohh, I never realized this, haha. She is still a killing machine, but I will check if she have this debuffs because I failed all the atempts to take her away from the thing.

  • @stephaniephillips9520
    @stephaniephillips9520 Před 3 měsíci

    Wow, I had no idea about the weakened Lae'zel. Thanks for the info!

  • @SOLH-vq3lh
    @SOLH-vq3lh Před 10 měsíci +1

    Brother, i just saw your numbers of subscriibers, congrats on the influx of ppl who realize that you are smart, fun, make interesting observations (with ME dives in mind, oh those are still gold brother) and ...i'm going out on a limb here, but you remind me of one off my best friends from what i can tell from your videos.
    Oh and also, you got charisma, good guy charisma.
    Take care brother,
    Solo - Sweden

  • @ChrisVesgo
    @ChrisVesgo Před 10 měsíci +1

    well I'm stuck with her debuffs I guess, but my 2nd playthrough I was planning a 'semi-evil want power guy' and I will definely grab this buff

  • @rumekfuria6037
    @rumekfuria6037 Před 10 měsíci +26

    note:
    I actually sent in Lae'zel alone, with my character being detached. The whole thing went by fast, and now that I check she has all 3 of these
    However. the tooltip says much more than shown. All 3 of them have an extra sentence:
    "The Githianki device failed to to harm your illithid parasite - perhaps consuming more would mend your broken mind"
    in that one, I did convince her to be open to upgrading the illithid powers, but haven't done so yet. Guess it ain't permament if one plays it right

    • @robbcabaian
      @robbcabaian Před 9 měsíci +4

      I’m surprised I had to scroll down so low for this. I’m guessing people don’t read the debuff’s tooltips?

  • @dollarcostbackpacker1226
    @dollarcostbackpacker1226 Před 6 měsíci

    Omg ty!!! Ty! Just arrived. And of ourse my githraki friend was frying her brain first... not no more.

  • @CastisV
    @CastisV Před 4 měsíci

    crazy that if you go through the underdark you miss this completely. This game is huge.

  • @amnesiapete9914
    @amnesiapete9914 Před 9 měsíci

    Thanks for this tip Mr H!

  • @morrigan.admiralova
    @morrigan.admiralova Před 6 měsíci

    nice to know that! I am playing as Laezel atm, havent done the quest yet

  • @godsangryhands4499
    @godsangryhands4499 Před 8 měsíci

    Oh, and Thanks for the info!😮

  • @h.d.harris_irl
    @h.d.harris_irl Před 10 měsíci +4

    I let her use it but got a nat 20 on the first persuasion so she doesn't have any weaknesses

  • @FJT91
    @FJT91 Před 9 měsíci +1

    You can go into the Zhath'isk first and Lae'zel will approve. At least she did with me, she said something along the lines of "I respect you, you can go first". Best of both worlds

  • @fortunatus1
    @fortunatus1 Před 10 měsíci +3

    After I saw that I couldn't succeed on Lae'zel's rolls (she lost all three and lost 2 points to 3 differnt ability scores), I loaded the previous save, went to camp, removed her from the group, and went back in to do it myself. Afterwards, I put her back in the group so she could be there for the dialogues with the inquisitor and Vlaa'kith.

    • @calronkeltaran493
      @calronkeltaran493 Před 10 měsíci

      didn't realize the weakend debuff and just went with it. however, the fact that the mashine almost killed her, gave me a great leverage to tell her, that her god actually sucks and only wants to consume her soul. so not all bad. also -1 At and dmg is not the end of the world. the mental strats don't do that much for her anyway

  • @brett_rose
    @brett_rose Před 4 měsíci

    I just semd her back to the camp. Do the chair myself, then when the healer runs off and locks the door. Just go back to camp and invite her again. No loss of rep that I saw.

  • @xychid
    @xychid Před 10 měsíci

    Wow. I had no idea about this. The awakened buff is very handy to know. o: Thanks for sharing.

  • @meris8486
    @meris8486 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Wow I never noticed this, had Laezel crippled throughout all of act 2 lol, was really hoping the Zaethisk would work

  • @channeldotexe
    @channeldotexe Před 5 měsíci

    yo bro thaaank yoou i was trying like hell to avoid getting locked in the infirmary cause im a level 4 and got no thieves tools or lockpick

  • @Ulgroth
    @Ulgroth Před 10 měsíci +1

    I do believe the new patch drop added a way to remove the debuffs so not really an issue.

  • @MDizzle3282
    @MDizzle3282 Před 10 měsíci +10

    Ah Laezel, source of my bruises. Shes my favorite companion and she LOVES my vengeance pally.

  • @tommyigoe3952
    @tommyigoe3952 Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks for sharing that with us :)

  • @Kuroganemk2
    @Kuroganemk2 Před 10 měsíci

    Yeah lol I failed all the checks and didn't notice all the -2 she received only after I was done with the entire area xD

  • @masaheimoi
    @masaheimoi Před 10 měsíci +1

    I had really good luck, and with first throw I got critical success.

  • @MrEvilside
    @MrEvilside Před 9 měsíci

    Shadowheart dissaprooves

  • @XDarksoulX1129
    @XDarksoulX1129 Před 10 měsíci

    I didnt find her in my first official playthrough until she was met up with the dragon dude

  • @nahuelcutrera
    @nahuelcutrera Před 10 měsíci +5

    should I consume the parasites or keep away from them ??? I don't know what to do with that ... should I cure myself or keep eating them?

  • @Zambedos
    @Zambedos Před 8 měsíci

    The debuffs on Lae'zel say they might go away if you let her absorb a tadpole - and they do.

  • @Vyantri
    @Vyantri Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you for this video. I'm glad I got that buff. There's only one chance to get it per playthrough it seems.

  • @chillax319
    @chillax319 Před 19 dny

    Apparently if you or Laez got some debuffs you can cure them consuming a tadpole/unlocking a new illithid skill.

  • @kaydens6964
    @kaydens6964 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Proof that ability improvement feat is a noob trap, I never noticed it until act 3 when she’s rocking in legendary githyanki gear😂

  • @spiritualspinster4222
    @spiritualspinster4222 Před 10 měsíci

    Good to know!

  • @Jangocat
    @Jangocat Před 10 měsíci

    I didn't notice the debuff until a few hours later, had to replay a nights worth of gaming. I just got out of the chair, didn't know you could get a buff. Doesn't matter anyway for this character, I don't eat the worms.

  • @barrybaarsma
    @barrybaarsma Před 10 měsíci +1

    if u check them all tho the saves and also the save for the unknow power even illithd thingie u get some extra power out of the event for me this was only postive hahahaha

  • @jondo4210
    @jondo4210 Před 9 měsíci

    Dude I don't even let her out of the cage back at the beach! lol

  • @screes620
    @screes620 Před 10 měsíci

    The mountain pass is technically part of Act 1 as well, just FYI.

  • @LongLiveTheDoors67
    @LongLiveTheDoors67 Před 9 měsíci

    She wouldn't say please when I found her in that cage so I just left her. When we got to the flatfaces near the Mountain Pass she ran in, and fumbled the conversation and started the fight already dead.

  • @alexaitcheson2397
    @alexaitcheson2397 Před 10 měsíci

    My lae zel lost wisdom and intelligence but i stole the powers.

  • @DarthDaddy-cg6ro
    @DarthDaddy-cg6ro Před 10 měsíci

    Thanks.

  • @SidneyPearls
    @SidneyPearls Před 6 měsíci +1

    For Laezel if you say " stand back. I'm going first" followed by "You would still be hunting for this place without my guidance. I will be cured first" She approves of this and is impressed. (dont know if this is approval dependant) my approval going in with her was Very High.

  • @kyleherrmann5777
    @kyleherrmann5777 Před 10 měsíci

    Dumb fun thing that will be patched. When the doctor books it and locks the danger door, it isn't a warp restricted area. You can warp to githyanki creche rune circle and speak to the kith'rak nonhostilely.

  • @matthewchandler7845
    @matthewchandler7845 Před 6 měsíci

    Like WOW this game is SOOOoo good for things like this. Never would have thought about trying this.

  • @Duncan2201
    @Duncan2201 Před 10 měsíci

    I managed to get her out of the machine before it exploded, I hadn't realised it had permanently wounded her. -2 to Intelligence it seems. Workable.

  • @arrankharchkrall2916
    @arrankharchkrall2916 Před 10 měsíci +61

    If you let Lae'Zel enter the Zai'thisk and convince her to remain in the chair throughout, you will also get the Awakened perk. So far I have only encountered one other spot in Act 1 that will give you another buff to the Parasite, granting an Illithid power....even though I have not yet unlocked the powers tab.

    • @p1ngerss
      @p1ngerss Před 10 měsíci +7

      use your ilithid powers in dialogue 3 times total then take a long rest

    • @CEDROU95
      @CEDROU95 Před 10 měsíci +10

      Yeah legit let her stay for like most the dialogue I dont see why id metagame and ruining her beliefs. With our character not knowing it would explode, i have to assume my tadpol is bad so why would i listen lol. Rp game gotta rp.

    • @arrankharchkrall2916
      @arrankharchkrall2916 Před 10 měsíci

      I already got the option to use the other tadpoles long before I even finished the goblin camp. After about the 8th time just dominating the gonlin minds the dialofue switched to something else entirely, the tadpole itseld hinting that it would change 'soon', which is the long rest the 'guardian' granted me the ability to absorbb them. I have yet to use any of the ones I found, and I have...12? 13? or thereabouts just sitting in jars right now.@@p1ngerss

    • @truecross4090
      @truecross4090 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@CEDROU95 There is a check you can succeed that your character finds out the chair is designed to drain the consciousness of the "patient" and then kill them. It was never meant to heal, that was a lie fed to the githyanki.

    • @guywithdreads
      @guywithdreads Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@p1ngerssI’ve been avoiding using illithid wisdom checks In dialogue.

  • @1SaG
    @1SaG Před 5 měsíci

    And here I was thinking you'd be advising against bringing Lae'zel to the Gith-patrol fight. I was stupid enough to do this not once, but twice ... and it never ended well for my party... :D

  • @justusvandyne1347
    @justusvandyne1347 Před 3 měsíci

    "Dont let your character do this in this choice-driven game."

  • @ponglenis9273
    @ponglenis9273 Před 6 měsíci

    Lae‘Zel makes a great eldritch knight, so let her stay in the zaithisk to farm approval, make her eat a tadpole, itcremoves the debuffs, then use the powers that she unlocks

  • @WetPickle998
    @WetPickle998 Před 5 měsíci

    I went through and let her do the entire process and she didn’t get problems

  • @spellandshield
    @spellandshield Před 10 měsíci

    Great video!

  • @CalMeNeva
    @CalMeNeva Před 10 měsíci

    nice, about to go to the crèch, wouldn't let my dear lae'zel get any mud on her hand

  • @kickintheace
    @kickintheace Před 10 měsíci

    Damnit now i have to start the game over

  • @02091992able
    @02091992able Před 5 měsíci

    I could not get through this conversation without it initiating a fight. So, I went the Underdark path. But I am attempting to do the trick to save Minthara and the Teiflings. With luck I did it properly and will not have to reload the save I made before I did the attack on the goblins.