[HD]Dissidia 012 Duodecim Cutscene - Cloud talks with Tifa
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- Dissidia 012 Duodecim Final Fantasy Cutscene (English) - Felt like it.
A cutscene showing Cloud talking with Tifa after saving Tifa from Sephiroth. However, Tifa doesn't seems to remember Cloud but Cloud does.
Release version: Europe
Console: Playstation Portable 2006
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Cloud had a crush on Tifa all throughout their childhood. That was why he said he would always protect her and one of the reasons he wanted to become a SOLDIER.
i think you meant another guy first name no, last name shit sherlock
@@b.s.productions4575 I waited six years for your reply.
@@ARiddle1986 well you got it
@@b.s.productions4575 I am honored.
@@ARiddle1986 damn must’ve felt good to get that reply
This is so sad... Especially when you pay attention to Cloud's body language. Heck, even Tifa's to an extent. Cloud does not look at Tifa at all (Maybe indirectly) in the scene. Tifa's eyes widen at Cloud's name and Cloud stiffens at the comment of "a hero saving the girl". You can even tell that Tifa is upset when Cloud says he doesn't know her. They've both got body language to support their emotions. A well done scene.
I liked the story in dissidia because in FF7. Cloud is guilt with A and Z's death and couldn't forgive himself in advent. In this one, it's like showing what if 'tifa died' unlike A's death he is not driven by guilt and he misses her like crazy in Cycle 13. Questioning his reasons to fight because he feels in his heart that he just lost the person most important to him in the previous cycle.
So y'all obviously haven't played FFVII, but here's why he's sulky: *SPOILERS*
In FFVII, Cloud loses some of his memories, and Tifa is the one who helps him put all of the pieces back together. She is his anchor.
In this, Tifa is the one who has lost her memory. The tables have turned. And now they're being forced to fight each other by powers beyond their control.
Like come on, that's his woman, of course he's sulky.
You obviously have not really played ff7. Aerith is the one who genuinely wanted to help cloud because of her she helped Tifa father cloud's memories together while Tifa throughout the majority of the game tried forcing cloud to believe he was a soldier and despairingly denied the truth which messed up her fantasy version of him that he was not. In short, Tifa LOVED the "Zack persona" in Cloud while Aerith told players time and time again she was over Zack and loved cloud for who he was and not something she wanted him to be which was Tifa's case. So no Tifa was far from being cloud's rock I suggest you play the game the right way and try to pay attention the characters and scenes.
Cloud is depressed because sephiroth killed the woman he loved if you really played the game then you would know that already.
Thank you! Jesus fucks sake I know damn well I played the game and I know damn well how Cloud felt about both ladies. Where the fuck does anyone get off on saying he ONLY loved one over the other?
I know a person who's only seen Advent children and hasn't played a single FF7 game. She compared Cloud to Edward Cullen. I died a thousand deaths.
dolebiscuit
👍🏻Preach, dude! Plus Cloud reacted badly from the Mako poisoning and had all kinds of PTSD and memory loss.
"You were like a hero-" Cloud loses his breath for a moment "-charging in to save the girl"
WHY THIS MAKES ME WANNA CRY SO HARD?!
Cloud and his beautiful tragedy.
OMG!!!! i LOOOOOOVE Cloud's thoughts in the end!!!! he DOES remember her completely and he's MORE in love with her!!!!! Cloti i ADORE u!!!!!
At the start of every conflict, Shinryu wipes out their memories because he wants them to show no mercy. Cloud changed sides because he didn't want to fight Tifa.
Lol I love how they put Sephiroth on the same team as Cloud and of course they just had to put Tifa on the opposite one...
ohmagurrd y ar u hear ;(((((((
I love people like you on CZcams.
Agreed. I can understand Cloud thinking he loved Aeris when he was all confused in the head but after it gets cleared up Cloud and Tifa all the way!
I really like this cut-scene because even they can't remember each other Cloud always come back for Tifa .No matter what because they promise each other since a childhood that what ever happen to Tifa,Cloud would be there to rescue her.
wtf does tifa see in cloud when...he talks...like this...all...the damn...time.
i don't get it either, think he's a terrible character especially in terms of personality.....
So does the greatest man who ever existed... William Shatner.
***** you've neva played ff7 did ya
xelfy kim i did, that's how i fucking know
+Jon Idoncair cuz they fucked up cloud outside of FF7, he doesnt act like that at all in FF7, for some reason everywhere else they made him slow and sulky which is really stupid, because he's anything but that in FF7 (the game he originated from)
Cloud rescues his enemies when the mood strikes him? I CALL BULL!
agreed
Even without memories Cloud and Tifa are destined to save each other😊
"Will I see you again?" Why it reminds me of Zerith scene btw. Oh, a girl's wish.
And love how SE change the side of who loses the memories from the original FF7. They meant each other, don't they?
Tifa wants him but Cloud is playing hard to Get
Tifa wants him, but then in ACC develops motherly feelings for Cloud, and still through it all. Cloud wants Aerith. Aerith wants Cloud. Zack is happy being best friends with Aerith. I'm talking about canon facts.
Shut the fuck up. I'm tired of seeing your name all over most, if not ALL, videos that hint Cloud/Tifa or Zack/Aerith.
They really are everywhere
@@sakuracardcaptor4709 Not buying it.
@@sakuracardcaptor4709 no you're not. Play the game, tifa and cloud even have sex by the end of the game while the only cloud Aeris know is a shallow made up persona, even she knows it we she say " I wish I know you better"
I would love to play this some day. A large part feels missing since Dissidia and prior titles have been released. So it helps to see the sniplets that you, and others, have graciously posted on here. Thank you
Dear Square Enix:
WHY DON"T U JUST GET THEM TOGETHER ALREADY TO KEEP US FROM WAITING???
Your prayers have been answered, my friend!!
@@Jammineyeonline 12 long years and finally 🥹
tsundere cloud :v
@sherlotta1022 it's made pretty clear towards the end of FF7 that Cloud has always been in love with Tifa. He joined Soldier because of her. He loved her since he was a kid,and the scene under the highwind just cemented their relationship. "They confirmed their mutual feelings for each other" regarding the scene under the highwind. It's an official statement made by Square.
It breaks my heart to see them deny everything
i wonder when the cloti and clerith fan stop harassing each other? i mean we all have the different opinions. so why bother other ship because you dont like it? please, grow up
facts
Just realized this was 4 years ago
Time files
Because they’re too attached to these characters
Wow, playing through shade impulse, Cloud's line all of a sudden makes much more sense. "The one I really want to meet is.." At first I thought it was in reference to Aerith from FFVII. But after the events of 012, and him feeling like he lost something precious, I now strongly believe it's Tifa. Strong work SE, you trolled the fanbase yet again.
Tifa: But when I heard your name, I thought we might..
..have smashed while Cid and Barret were watching from the Highwind
that's a connection i said CONNECTION
Cloud only acts like Zack due to a psychosis that caused him to believe he and Zack where the same person.
The subtlety that most fail to grasp about Cloud's journey is that in order to find himself, Cloud had to relive his past and sort the fake memories from the real ones.
Cloud did this by turning to the one thing that stayed constant in his life and defined his person:
His dream to impress Tifa by becoming a soldier. It was the reason he looked up to Zack in the first place.
I so agree with you. If you played FF7 in ps1 A actually saw the 'real' cloud hidden behind his soo called 'ZACK-MAKESHIP-personality'. On their so called date, she said 'I'm looking for you and I want to met you'
Because she feels Zack's personality on Cloud. But she fails to put him back because she really didnt know him only Tifa can bring the true cloud back to himself.
Quite odd that Tifa is surprised to hear Cloud being on the other side despite already hearing Sephiroth say that Cloud betrayed them
Cloud Strife - the king of JRPG teen angsters
+Elvis Presley he's like 21 in ff7
RRM25100 well thank you captain obivious
+Elvis Presley oh whatever Elvis
Cloud never loved Aerith romantically. His one true love was and always is Tifa.
lol cloud is a stone hearted badass
@Wind Ranger Apparently you never played the game there because Cloud is canonically ONLY ever interested in Tifa romantically.
@Kosename yup. He was infatuated with Aerith due to the confusion of taking up Zacks mantle. It might've felt real to him at the time but it was before he remembered who he actually was, a country boy from Nibelhiem that forgot about his childhood crush, Tifa. For disagreers, see the maxed out Tifa affection under the highwind scene. Clouds broken so it's hard for him to have two feelings inside. But HIS true feelings are for Tifa. Zacks is Aerith. It truly is a conflicted bittersweet tragedy.
the feelings were real. even if his persona of his was fabricated from being imprinted by Zack because of the mako poisoning and trauma, he still felt those feelings. The thing about final fantasy 7 is that there never was a 100 percent set course and you can date anyone. You could say that Barret or Yuffie were his true love. While the only one you could have implied sex with is Tifa.
@@LygarZeroX Well, it depends on how you define real, our language isn't made for these types of odd scenarios. The feelings themselves were real I guess, as in, ZaCloud felt them. But if they're based on a lie and a false persona it can be argued that they're not really Clouds, or are at the very least artificial and less than genuine.
ooooh i really love this scene in the japanese version with ayumi ito and takahiro sakurai's voice, but the english voices are so..empty!!! especially tifa's voice!! the japanese scene is much more romantic!! cloud x tifa powaaaa!!!
OMG I love this scene so much. This is like the best scene in the entire Duodecim. However, I think the Japanese version is better. The actors put more emotion in their voice which make the whole scene much more romantic.
Aww, Cloud is so sweet. He silently try to protect Tifa. He pretends not knowing her because he want Tifa to focus on her fighting. If she realize who he is, she might lose her will to fight and that would be very dangerous for her.
@Shaneth21
To answer your question, Tifa was on Cosmos' side during the 12th cycle, which was the only one that she was involved in (found in the Character Files). Like the other warriors of Cosmos, they have absolutely no memories of their past, original homeworld or the people that they knew (the only exception were Yuna, Kain and Jecht since they were involved in the other cycles). The warriors of Chaos, however, have full recollection of their past since they won every cycle until the 13th.
It sure is amazing to note how much Tifa looks like Laguna or even Squall.
cloud is the greatest, he just acts like a protective guy that is not that sure of himself
Cloud's guilt is not driven by his LOVE for Aerith. Aerith was killed and he felt guilty that he didn't do anything about it and feels it was his fault.
@winterscott1991
That is why Cloud, who was originally on Chaos' side, remembers Sephiroth, Tifa and their homeworld and he acted as if he never knew her so that he could protect her and prevent her from falling to despair once she has full recollection of her past and realizes her connection with the two.
Cloud i Tifa são tão lindos juntos 😍😊😁
Well in case you are not familiar with any of this, "Dissidia" itself is a game where main protagonists and antagonists are brought together from thier respective worlds to fight a war of the gods 012 is a prequel to the first Dissidia in which cloud is a main character on cosmos' side, in this one tifa is fighting for Cosmos' Before Cloud joined.
To put it simply The Dissidia Series has nothing to do with the original games story wise.
Speaking of Shinra, if there was a theme song for all of Shinra, it'd be System Of A Down's Cigaro. 'We're cool, in denial...we're the cruel regulators smoking Cigaro, Cigaro, Cigar...' There's a rock and roll theme for every character in the Final Fantasy series. Sephiroth's is Shinedown's Sound Of Madness. 'No one owes you anything-I think...you need a shotgun blast-a kick in the ass-so paranoid-WATCH YOUR BACK!'
Cloud? Motörhead's Overkill. Perfect ringtone too.
1:30 to 1:43
Aerith: ZACK LOOK WHAT CLOUD SAID TO TIFA!
Zack: *watches* me and cloud should've made a promise
Aeirth: what would the promise be?
Zack: TO GET WITH TIFA BEFORE HE DIES!!!!
Good god I love these characters...
Me too, my favorite characters forever.
I’m so glad Tifa and Cloud love each other
"lets all act like we have amnesia!"
omg...this sucks my balls....
sgr7th Well, Tifa really didn't remember Cloud when summoned into the cycle. Cloud acted aloof to protect Tifa because if she gets her memories back, she will not want to fight.
Yeah, they're guidebooks released in Japan by square/enix themselves. Admittedly, I was thinking the scene to be more innocent when I first played the game, didn't expect the devs to admit something like that. It's kinda weird that the rest of the party watched them "do" it out in the open haha. It's best left to interpretation, but I think they at least got intimate.
Yes. During his merc runs early on in FF7 he was extremely cocky and positive in his skills. Of course this all dissolved after Aerith died and he regained his old memories.
@nswayne Correct, in fact, he was one of the very first warriors of Chaos, by this time, Cloud has received just about all his memories of his previous life and all the battles up til now.
They aren't evil. They just work for Chaos. I don't think they get to choose which side they are on.
Cloud: No, I’ve never met you before
Tifa: ouch
He already explained why he did that. For her own good. Not much of an ouch when she doesn't have her memories.
@kgalo12 I'm pretty sure for this cycle, it took place sometime after Cloud became depressed about losing Zack and having his memories restored and Chaos could sense the darkness of his depression overtake him and decided to use that to summon Cloud to his side
i like how he doesnt look at her the whole time
I never quite bought into Zack/Aerith as a serious relationship, she was only young, a teen, at the time and they didn't see each other for a particularly long period of time. I didn't think the scene where she talked to Zack's parents was particularly conclusive, and the later date scene makes her seem interested in Cloud himself. It's very much open to interpretation - not saying you are wrong or anything.
In fact, other than that, I agree with you in full. Well said sir.
@raeven1212 he was a champion of chaos in the twelfth cycle. after that cutscene he fought chaos only to find his doom. he then prays to cosmos to save his friend Tifa and Cosmos saved him
As a huge fan of Zack Fair from Crisis Core's viewpoint... I love how Cloud reacted to the word "hero". I think that was a reference to Zack's dream to "become a hero".
The FMV doesn't explain much except Cloud thinks he can find Aeris in the promised land, with Tifa right after saying "yeah, let's go meet her", as in them as a unit. With what just happend in the highwind, It makes sense, as Tifa is confident in her relationship with Cloud.
The kicker though is that Tifa is the only person where Cloud explicitly states to have feelings for, and he does this at the end of 2nd disc, after all the shit has already happened. And the ultimania confirms all this.
i know cloud will always save her because he had a promise when he was child with someone that he will save her if she in trouble...that's intuition
... Or look at it a different way - Cloud acted EXACTLY like Zack, and claimed to have been in SOLDIER (a small, elite group), so he should have known Zack - and Aerith is always trying to figure this mystery out, and so prompts Cloud about Zack, without having any kind of understanding of the situation.
As opposed to Tifa who actually knows something but keeps quiet for her own motivations and reservations. Key point, both are interested in and act (or don't) due to their relationship with him.
@singerinwhite
In the original game he was rather cocky and arrogant, but with a good heart. While he did have things he kept to himself, he was never really quiet. In fact, he was often very outspoken.
You gotta feel bad for Cloud here...it's painful for him to be around her, but not the way most tend to think. Especially when she starts comparing him to a hero saving the girl, EXACTLY as he promised her. Only you're forced to be mortal enemies and he was just unlucky to realize that. It's no wonder he tried in vain to off Chaos. He has enough problems as it is, why give him more reason to be the personality most fans seem to be tired of...
Clerith fans be jealous b/c Aerith doesnt get many post FFVII scenes with Cloud anymore ;) ... SPECIFICALLY calling out the fans stalking this CloTi type of material like witch hunters... no hard feelings to the peaceful Clerith fans of course.
@xPrincessGarnetXVI it's one of his answers. When Tifa asks him if he slept well,you can answer "next to you,who wouldn't"
Cloud... without pauses... tell me i'm dreaming!
Dissidia 2 seems like the characters are actually interacting now. It's brilliant.
So... if we look at this from the Dissidia history, Cloud retains all his memories because he was on the winning side of a previous cycle. Correct...?
Well if you analyze the scene where Tifa wanders around Cloud's subconscious, he clearly state that the reason he wanted to be like Sephiroth was to impress and be noticed by her, which allows us to understand a lot more about his emotions and actions. IMO his main motivations were undoubtedly connected to his whole childhood trauma, which happens to have a lot to do with Tifa.
Is it just me or Tifa is just so beautiful. She is caring 🥰 aww
naw man i understood the game very well. Tifa obviously had strong feelings for Cloud no argument there, but cloud was more interested in Aeris from my perspective. but i now believe the writers wanted the player to decide because there are subtleties on both ends. cloud only ever mentions to Tifa that he has feelings for her once, after she had poured her heart out onto his lap near the Highwind. there are multiple occasions where he refers to Aeris as "WE", "US", and "OUR"
No, the battle must end eventually. There where two possible conclusions.
One. Chaos would be destroyed rather than simply defeated in a particular cycle.
Two. Chaos gathers enough strength from the cycles of war to tear a rift in space-time back to the world he came from. As intended by Cid of the Lufaine.
The game takes place in another dimension. It could all happen at any time in, for example, Cloud's story, yet Cloud doesn't remember it and it has no bearing on the story of FF7.
They were called by the other side that's why and they don't have their memories. Cloud regains his memories in this game, the prequel to Dissidia, hence why he refuses to fight Tifa here. Cloud later fights Chaos alone for Tifa's sake which touches the leader of the other side who agrees to let Tifa return, after she's defeated in this game, and picks Cloud as her Champion for Dissidia.
I can't say I agree 100% with that. Clouds actions and personality traits were heavily influenced by Zack in the original game. Towards the end of FF7 Cloud will have more random bouts of introversion, but he's still trying to separate himself from Zack's memories at that time. Note that Cloud was naturally quiet...and a bit awkward. Even in FF7 he seems predisposed to the idea of never involving people in things he felt were his problems.
I think you can predict the plot point "The good guys win".
There isn't really much to spoil. Dissidia is no LOTR it isn't even cannon in any of the characters respective chronologies.
The close the crack the mannequins spawn from, but lose the cycle in the process. The remaining warriors return in the next cycle to gather Cosmo's fragmented strength and move to eliminate Chaos and end the cycle forever.
I think Cloud's real personality is what we saw in Crisis Core, he was cool af in this game, in the original FF7 he was basically Zack, and afterwards he is just messed by the previous events.
He was never like zack but yeah everything else is true
Tifa is just beautiful isn’t she?
Cloud didn't start doubting himself until later on in the game. And even then, his dramatic flop in his persona didn't happen until Advent Children. As soon as Cloud became mopey and depressed, he immediately switched from being one of my favorite character to one that I couldn't stand. And why not? Other characters had no problems staying confident and positive in Dissidia.
@64jigen No, not evil. At Dissidia 012, Cloud is summoned as Warrior of Chaos. But in the 13rd cycle, he was revived as a Warrior of Cosmos because, well, I don't wanna spoil it.
@linegenrou
No. Cloud's personality was never like Zack's. The only thing that was different was his memories. Cloud has always had his own personality.
I can feel the romantic tension between those two so much that it's surging through my computer screen.
The conclusion is that in the original FFVII game, Cloud romantically liked both Tifa and Aerith. However which way he swayed more was up to the player. That's why you have the date mechanics AND two different highwind scenes. I don't why player's choice has to be such a bad thing.
@MateusFolletto Final Fantasy Dissidia 012: Duodecim. Also known as Square Enix's love letter to all their fans. I don't know why this game didn't get much coverage though, I didn't know about this game until like 8 months after the first one came out (You can play through the story mode of the first installment once you finish the new campaign, so there is no real need to buy both games if you were considering it)
Well, in the story of FF7, he was pretending to be like Zack throughout most of the game. And after finding out the truth about his own memories he became more like this (when shown in Crisis Core, he was really shy and upbeat, not arrogant and proud like when he was pretending to be Zack). The latest (timeline wise) installment has him more with ironic wit than anything in Dirge of Cerberus. So I don't really consider him a clone of Squall since his demeanor existed prior.
And then Cloud had the balls to take on Chaos all by himself. In a losing effort, but...damn.
@StickmanMakerr All of the characters were supped from their worlds at different times. Cloud was taken from FFVII straight so he doesn't really remember who he is and still has Zack's memories etc etc. But Sephiroth was taken from right before AC/ACC which is why he finds this all pointless since he knows he'll be reborn in either world no matter what. Like looking at FFIV, Cecil was taken after the game but I think before the sequal. where as Golbez was from the sequal since his hair is silver
"Words aren't the only way to show how you feel" cue blackout plus Tifa's response to the gang next morning with "were you watching?!" implies something going on. This is in stark contrast to "were you listening" in the low affection one. They fall asleep next to each other in both versions, so you know something different happened.
It was on an interview in Ultimania 10th anniversary. If you don't believe me, go to wikipedia, type in 'Cloud Strife', and ctrl+F:sex. It happened at end of disc 2 the night before fighting Sephiroth. The interview never specifically mentioned sex but it was intended to be of a risque, or mature theme. I can pm you the interview if you want. Honestly, it still surprises me people are still arguing about this. It's as if they want everything spoonfed to them.
@skysorujaa I agree Tifa seems a bit "happy-go-lucky" but then it is her original game outfit so this is possibly the younger, 20 year-old Tifa from before Advent Children and possibly the end of the original game (at 22 she's a little more serious and matured).
It's not especially pointing to anything romantic but the tension of "feelings" of some kind is evident. Cloud's being protective of her because he remembers her. Either way you look at it it's frickin' cute!
@linegenrou
Nope. Cloud was never flirty in FF7. He had the same personality all the time.
I didn't mean the original game theme. I said specifically 'Rock n Roll' music. Sephiroth's closest match for a rock music theme, would be Shinedown's 'Sound Of Madness'. Cloud, 'Overkill' by Motörhead. Tifa...well 'Cherry Pie' by Warrant fits nicely, for her assets, but I can definitely imagine her voice singing 'My Favourite Game' by The Cardigans very, very nicely. Not to take the subject off these three, but for Terra Branford, 'Woman' by Wolfmother is definitely hers. Again, rock music.
I feel like this game looked way better when I was younger😂
Oh the Irony... It too much; I want to talk and say something
Cruel indeed. That's what's called drama.
Writers treat their characters sadistically to create tension.
They do get their memories back, and return to their original world to boot. Tifa, Vaan, Kain, Lighting, Laguna, and Yuna get to go back early, because though successful, they where defeated in their attempt to cut off the mannequins from reinforcements to give hope to the next cycle.
man i would play FF7 again if the graphics were only this good DAMN I MISS GOOD RPGs
Did you forget the whole lifestream event? The REAL Cloud had feelings for Tifa. If your affection w Tifa was high enough, under the highwind, they say their hearts were calling out to each other, they recipocrate their feelings, and it is followed by a night of something "risque". Everybody had something else they were fighting for, but Cloud and Tifa had each other? This was all in the original game. CC only illuminated on the events of FF. Sorry dude, but you're just wrong here.
But he remembers after Tifa fixed his mind, and actually the story in FFVII implies (or actually especifies) that cloud has a crush with Tifa, of course when he pretended to be zack he also started to like aeris but all that changed again when he returned to "normal"
They are all different stories in different worlds.
Cloud's story is in Final Fantasy 7 PS1 its on PSN for 10$ pretty good deal.
@Louchan2 Um,YES. In FF7,he had the same gestures,same flirty personality as Zack. Real Cloud is shy and awkward.
@winterscott1991 as far as I remember, Sephiroth doesn't remember his past and that's why he wanted to fight Tifa to get his memories back
But KH II complicated things by making Tifa his light. You're right though, in KH he was searching for Aeris. I guess even the devs have trouble deciding on the two. Also, there's the whole ultimania thing where they had a section on romantic love and Cloud and Tifa were the representative couple of FFVII.
I personally liked both, Tifa and Cloud just seemed more "right" to me. But we could go in circles over this and not reach an endpoint. Maybe it's best left to interpretation like you said.
@junfaa
They HAVE changed his personality. The original Cloud in the original game wasn't emo at all. In fact, he was very outspoken and a bit cocky.
Aeris' role is also one of guilt for Cloud, she was the "innocent girl" who Cloud failed to protect. Literally everyone who dies in 7 Cloud blames himself as failure, whether they knew what they were getting into or not. Cloud stays away in Advent Children because he fears that with all the trouble that follows him, he'll lose Tifa too because he fears he doesn't have the strength.
It was implied multiple times by one of the game's creators that Aerith and Cloud were considered canon.
“Each carries their own feelings and love for Aerith. In this story, Cloud also carries his undying feeling for Aerith even to this very day…” ~Nomura, Square Enix
There is a lot of other evidence from official SE works too? So how about you don't be so black and white about it? It is quite possible to have Cloud as a pair with BOTH, as circumstances change throughout.
Not to mention whenever someone "Will I see you again?" the one they're saying it too would probably wanna snap and say, "You just HAD to say that, didn't you?"
'Coz, you know, fate has a weird sense of humor.