Is Games Workshop Combat Patrol Boxes A Bad Deal?
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- čas přidán 18. 05. 2024
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direct comparison from old CP to new battleforce is what really highlights the underhand tactics.
Yeah that’s a very good point as well. Just kinda of a overall bad vibe.
Old CP + Battleforce = good start to an army.
When I seen that reveal on the live stream I'm like the Battleforce Box is just the Reskined old combat patrol, and the combat patrol box is kinda like you had 2 box's of the old combat patrol and it had some stuff you might have needed then yeah whatever. But I was like Jesus they just murdered the good Old combat patrol for something that won't even give you a starter army. Secondly the new Sister's Stuff someone pointed out was just the year prior's Boarding patrol.
Literally the only difference is the Repentia traded for Arco- Flagellants. Not to mention points wise it’s fucking awful!
Yeah the older combat patrol came to around 500/600 pts (citation needed) but the newer one is just around 300/400 pts. Paying more for less value / less of a starter for an army is a feel bad imo. Yeah I saw somewhere that the sister box was a reskin of a boarding patrol.
@@AlexAttemptsTabletop current points value
Old 455pts
New 370pts
It’s awful
Usually. They stuff them full of boring units most people don't want. If the box has extra crap you don't want. Don't buy it.
Yeah a good point. Sometimes a ‘bigger’ box may appear good due to extra minis but like you mentioned if it doesn’t appeal to you overall… don’t buy it.
I think that gw are just upping the prices just because they don't have any real competition
Wouldn’t surprise me tbh unfortunately 😅
While I love some AoS, Blood Bowl and Necromunda minis, I paint about as much Frostgrave/Stargrave, Wargames Atlantic and Warlord minis. There are lots of options outside of GW, even if you don't like printing.
While I'm salty about how prices keep rising, I'd be lying if I said this new combat patrol isn't basically exactly what I was looking to add to my Genestealer army anyways. Still, I can't wait until I have an area where I can put a resin printer.
I am in the same situation. I can see myself getting a 3D printer down the line just not yet unfortunately. I do feel the new G-Cult CP is quite uninspiring imo.
@@AlexAttemptsTabletopit’s most definitely a downgrade. Literally only reason I might get it is it’s basically the exact set of units I want anyways.
Honestly if you got a copy of the old combat patrol the magus body can probably be kitbashed into a Benefictus
Yeah that’s a good shout tbf. Would work well.
Glad I was able to grab 2 of the old combat patrols before they all disappeared
Ohh nice one! Definitely a decent grab. Happy to hear you got your hands on them.
**cries in cog boys**
Sad cog sounds 🫣
I like your middle of the road approach to the subject, a lot of people go too negative or go too positive: "This is the end of the hobby!" or "Oh gee! Games Workshop loves us and truly values us!", none of that is present here, it feels like there's more emotions than just "GW BAD" or "GW GOOD", leaves the viewer with some things to think about after watching this.
Thank you for the kind words. It’s greatly appreciated. I do always try to have a fair approach. I like the idea as an open discussion where people can make their minds up for themselves. I’m just the guy talking loudly in the corner asking what does everyone think about (insert topic) etc.
@@AlexAttemptsTabletop That's a very humble view, give yourself a bit more credit though, your fair approach is very well appreciated and well written compared to more vulgar and less reasonable figures.
Looks perfect for Necromunda though
With the new Necro Nid minis alongside G-Cult will work nicely with it. The new Necro hybrid scum/grunts look really nice. Would fit in perfectly with a G-Cult army.
Value wise, especially for a hoard army, the new CP is pretty bad and doesn't offer much. But I say it makes up for it a bit by having a identity and at least this one the Character can Squad up with a unit in the box.
Yeah the new CP has that identity/vibe like you mentioned & having a character being able to lead a unit in a box is useful. That all said… as you mentioned for a hoard army it isn’t particularly ‘good’.
I feel like the new combat patrol was designed for existing players but the old one is just so much better for new players, no clue how they’re supposed to afford this army now
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I'm a really big SoB fan and i'm sad they got reveals.
It's that bad.
I was kinda underwhelmed by another canoness. I’d like some crusaders / militia who follow & worship the SOB into battle etc. It ticks that narrative/story telling aspect of the hobby that I enjoy.
@@AlexAttemptsTabletop I just want a canoness who doesn't have fewer decorations than some of the units she can join.
Aren't characters meant to stand out?
Spot on & especially when you have to pay waaay more for a single character mini. It should stand out & be a point of interest in an army.
The thing that makes me angry about this is that GW can't seem to grow on their own merits. All they can do is raise the price. Then the hobby shrinks, but they want to grow more, so they raise prices again. It seems like a death spiral to me, and it's all because GW failed to expand naturally.
A very good point of view & one I can get onboard with. Unfortunately shareholders want more £€$ quickly 🤷🏻♂️ Naturally letting something grow in the long run is more sustainable as an ongoing goal. The talk of burnout spiral is a fair observation to make… that could potentially happen at some point.
It's a hell of a bad deal, compared to 3 years ago and I won't get started what we should be paying around 2010 prices. It's the same old price gouge play, every year x2 increase in inflation cost regardless if there is a rise of inflation because people keep swallowing the price hikes and getting way less every time. Bare sprues, just the minimum with no rule of cool options, no extra weapon load outs, hyper detail mono junk, and you still are short packed so you have to purchase 1 or 2 more boxes just to field something semi viable. If you are buying GW you're doing it wrong, you need to grab yourself a printer and start printing. Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
You cover a lot of truths in your statement so fair play 👏 Especially agree with lack of customisation with minis & spare bits. I will get a 3D printer one day just not yet unfortunately. I do look forward to making Brrrr sounds one day 😅
Yes, the answer is yes, anything from GW is a bad deal. Buy a 3d printer
I will get round to buying one (one day) just not yet unfortunately.
Literally all GW products are a scam. Buy alternative paints and print minis for cheap
Do you know what the word "SCAM" actually means? It's buying something and getting something else, or not at all. Shitty thumbnail. Didn't watch a second of this video.