Choosing the RIGHT Amplifier by Musical Fidelity M5si Amplifier Review
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► Choosing the RIGHT Amplifier by Musical Fidelity - M5si Amplifier Review
Finding the right amplifier for your system can quickly become overwhelming with all of the choices out there. If you watch this channel, then you (hopefully) have already seen our Musical Fidelity M3si/M8xi integrated amp review. If you haven’t, you can watch that here: • HiFi’s Best Kept SECRE... You might even be wondering “Do I need a high end amplifier?” or is a more entry level integrated amplifier enough. Hopefully, this review of the M5si will provide some guidance for those of you looking for the best integrated amplifier for you and your system.
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Headphones. You should see the graveyard of cans at my house. It’s embarrassing. After many iterations and much wasted money I have “invested” in a pair of Shure SE846’s. Not the most expensive IEM’s but not cheap either, however, they’re worth every penny for me. Your review of the Sony XM4’s made me re-enter the over-the-ear camp but I used AirMiles rewards to get those for free so that’s a win-win all around.
Hi Andrew! Great review...thank you very much! 👍🏻
I am looking to put together one of the "classic" combos - M6Si paired with Focal Aria 948s.
The NAD Masters M33 sure looks "Yummy!" - but not sure if it will be able to drive the Focals with the same authority as the M6Si 🤔🤔
HEGEL, please!
I have an idealised idea about how something sounded in my memory. I look for the negative space. Haven't found it really. My ears are probably past that age.
@Diego Armando For full specifications please refer to the Musical Fidelity website.
Great review. I have spent 3 months researching integrated amp options and you helped me close in on a winner. In the end it was between the M5si and the M6si with the winner being the M6si since I liked the addition of a balanced input. Upgraded from a Rotel RX-1052 and I'm really loving my choice even right out of the box. Thank you for the help and keep it up!
I’ve been searching for a powerful yet affordable analog amplifier for awhile now. Your video really helped me make my decision. I just bought the M5 after 3 months of looking.
Keep up the great work!!
I just got my M5. It is awesome. I had an AVR receiver for 25 years. This kills it.
Thanks for the review - surprisingly few in depth looks at Musical Fidelity products floating around out there, but it's a brand I've always been fond of, based on previous encounters.
This actually prompted me to take a second look at the M6si, which I had mentally crossed off my list because it 'only' had 1 balanced input (i switched most of my stuff over to balanced a while back), but with supply chain issues and my budget, this was literally the only amp that was a) a clear improvement over my previous, b) within my budget ($2-3.5k USD) and c) actually in stock in Singapore. I was tempted by the NAD M33, Anthem STR and Hegel 190 - but those were more expensive and crammed all the streaming/usb dac/bluetooth features in the amp whereas I personally prefer to keep my sources seperate.
Needless to say, I am very happy with my choice - although I slightly wish my budget could have stretched to afford the limited M6si Chrome Edition which purportedly has improved selected components for better audio - then again, with a new toddler running around, that mirror finish probably wouldn't last too long :P
I absolutely agree that the MF does a great job adding a level of realism or even vibrancy to acoustic instruments - my first test disc was some Rodrigo y Gabriela and it did indeed "slap" :) Good amount of bass, detail, texture and very dynamic. Fresh out of the box, I'm getting a bit more sibilance than with my prior amp and the soundstage is a bit muddled, but that may be due to a mismatch in power cords as I was testing with the upgrade cable I was using previously (need to order in a new one to match my power conditioner), but overall very happy and I think this will stick around my home for a good few years :) It does run pretty hot though!
M5si arrived today, paired with Dali Oberon 7s, and Rega P2. The latter components were really brought to life; amazing detail and endless power (like very much ALOT of power 😯). I would agree that any flaws a source may have are noticeable, the M5 is very true to its signal and does make it obvious other integrated amps often not as much.
I am glad MF kept the M5 mission specific as a power integrated that owners can pair with the evolving inputs on our own. Great review!
Influenced by your review on YT, I replaced my M3si with a silver M5si and I'm delighted. Thanks to you, I have a beautiful amplifier and my house is filled with wonderful sound.🥰
Thank you for being here - I spent a year testing stereo components while stationed with the US Marine Corps in Okinawa from 1976 - 77 where I ended up with a Pioneer SX 1050 Receiver, a TEAC double cassette player, now retired, JBL65 speakers and when I returned to the states I purchased a Bang and Olufsen Beogram 2400 turn table. Since then I have added a TEAC X-10 reel to reel and a Marantz CD player. My pioneer receiver is screwing up so badly I am no longer able to tolerate it. Either channel might at any moment drop out, lose power, fade quickly away; when I turn the balance to that channel/speaker and crank the volume I get static and then a break through, the sound returns to normal but at any moment this might reoccur on that channel or the other. I took the receiver to my tech guy and he could not reproduce the problem. When I brought it home and reconnected everything the problem disappeared for a month and then came back as bad or worse than before. I am going to watch your videos to help me learn about what is available in stereo equipment today, before I make any purchase. Might I trouble you for a citation of a video to begin? Sorry to be so long winded, I think I needed to vent...
Check youre speaker relays, speaker select switches, source select switches- also noisy transistors in the front end of the offending channel - you can try and induce the fault through selectively heating or freezing the transistors individually. (can of "freeze") So these are the transistors that for the differential amp or ones around them that I have seen go noisy in the past and cause this kind of thing.
Thank God you came to THAT conclusion! I looked all over CZcams and the web for reviews for the M5SI, found just a few, but decided to buy it anyway, this morning. Then came this review, the same day😅
Andrew, Thank you very much for this and your earlier video this past spring on the Musical Fidelity M3si and M8xi. It was that earlier video that directed me toward the brand. When I eventually made my purchase this fall, I went with the M6si and paired it with KEF R7s. I could not be happier with my decision. Thank you so very much for this and your previous review. These amps really are something special and fit my tastes perfectly. I can't recommend this line highly enough.
So glad you found it helpful. Happy listening.
Best Hi-fi review channel on CZcams. By far. Great, great work Andrew, so thanks to you and your lady for that and best regards from Iran....
Even though I'm done my hunt for now, still enjoy watching your reviews! Forte III and A-S2200 in the house and wow a big step up from what I was using before.
I bet that is a GREAT system. Thanks for continuing to watch and support the channel. We really do appreciate you.
I had the M6si for an audition home in my system, with the end result sound out of a pair of Spendor A4.
I absolutely loved the M6si for the tonal quality and the size of the projected sound stage either side of my speakers. However I really felt the power output was wasted on me and as much as I would have loved to keep it, I decide upon the more cost effective M5si…
I'm using an Musical Fidelity M5si with a pair of Acoustic Energy AE309 Floor standing speakers and I love the sound. I find their is great detail and the mids and bass are just right. Looking at replacing my old Denon CD player with Musical Fidelity CD Player next.
@andrew .. Love your videos. I would say you made me care about listening to music the way it is supposed to, ie. am in the rabbit hole.I feel now I have to setup a proper system and re-listen all of my favorite music as I do not think i did any justice to some of that art :)
Building my first system based on good sales out there in the holiday season.
Not going too crazy as i am still a NOOB.
Receiver: Denon x-4500h
L-R: JBL Studio 530s
Center: Infinity RC -263
On the look out for a single or dual sub now to complete a 3.1 OR 3.2 setup for now. Will eventually get a proper floor standing set to complete a dual surround and stereo setup once i move onto a bigger space and once i understand what I like a bit more in terms of sound.
Keep doing what you are doing. I think youtube lacks quality audio content like yours. A small recommendation would be if you could show some of these features that you are talking about and voice over them.
P.S: If you or any one have recommendations on the subs to complete that above setup, totally appreciated. 60-40% music to movie ratio.
Your reviews are so well thought out and produced. Thanks for all the great content keep it coming.
Thank you so much. Will do.
Last week I bought the M5si also because of this review. It's paired with my Bowers and Wilkins 702 S2. It's seems to be a match in heaven.
Thanks, just bought a pair of 702s2 's and was just wondering...
I bought the m5si and the m3scd about 2 years ago and have paired them with monitor audio gold 200 speakers and a nad 588 turntable ,the sound is stunning through the cd player and the turntable even more now i have upgraded the cartridge to a 2m black .
I'm keeping my Kenwood KA-109 (1990) integrated amp. Works great. Phono preamp. Bluetooth added. Running four KLH speakers and an 80w sub. Current cost $0.00. Old doesn't mean obsolete or dead. Wish I still had that old Phase Linear 400 from the 70's. That was a monster. AR speakers. Killer setup.
To answer the QOTD, I'm not so much sure for me it was experimenting with a product line as it was doing some reading and just taking a chance on one. Over the years I've had a couple Yamahas, a couple Denons, a Marantz and a Harmon Kardon. Nothing seemed to really it home for me. Ended up doing some reading and bought a Dayton Audio HTA100BT and haven't looked back. Only 50wpc but pairs great with both my Elac B6.2 bookshelves and my old Pioneer GS-301WA2 floor standing speakers. Sounds alive, fills the space, but never seems too overpowering.
Have a great afternoon. Always enjoy and look forward to your videos.
Thank you so much for sharing and for watching! Be well!
I went from the AS1000 to and AS3000 recently. Mated with a CDS3000. Levels of accuracy and detail is phenomenal. I've heard stuff on my CD's I didn't even know were there. I agree though that the "bass is light". Speakers I'm using are the NSF901 Soavo 2's. While the bass may be light, it's substantially more controlled and tighter.
Thankyou for this great review.
This amp has been on my top 3 list for some time.
Really loving your work.
Cheers from Australia
Who does this Andrew Robinson think that he is that he can be, at once charming and informative, witty, yet self-deprecating. By far, the best review of any stereo product that I've ever enjoyed, whether in person or online. Well done, you! I've just purchased an M5si, after an email from Heinz Lichtenegger. He highly recommends it, as well.
Hi I was thinking also to purchase the M5si. What do you think of it
@@simonkenny8924 I cannot speak highly enough about this musical fidelity and it is gorgeous and has somebody far more knowledgeable than I says it makes your system sing
@@guydaviddezarn5090 cool I’m saving up I’m lost without my vinyl, and want best amp I can afford cheers
Are you happy with the amp?
You and Darko are fast becoming my favourite audio tech channels
Those La Scalas look HUGE in that room.
Thank you much, for allowing me to check out some new gear. I have some 15 year old equipment that I’m contemplating replacing, (revel m22 speakers, linn classik stereo, and meridian 555 amp. I WANT a Naim 250DR, 282, w/ some Spendor SP100s, but, the price isn’t the cards, nor do i NEED a system that large. Musical fidelity integrated intrigues me as do the Bowers 702s (i have heard the 805 d3’s ~tasty).
I bought the ATC SXM 7s as my utimate affordable small bookshelf speaker for my Elex-r. Guess what ? The amplifier is struggling
and treble seems to treble ( well double!) itself and become somewhat harsh. However the SXM,s do show excellent reception with the right power.
I know of MF because my son-in-law has the original Pre and Power amps and CD player played thru Proac floorstanders. Wonderful.
Watching your excellent presentation on You Tube of the M5si, I realize that that is the amp I should have bought - slightly better clarity and power at just about an affordable cost. I have found a dealer that will buy my Elex-r which will bring down the cost of the Msi significantly.
My problem with electronics is that I live on an island which uses US voltage, so I effectively have to buy US side, where the prices are higher and in some cases now with the weak pound double. Only very few brands of amplifiers are dual voltage.
John D.K.
Just bought M5si tried a NAD can't remember what model also tried Yamaha 801. So glad I watched you review and tried Music Fidelity love this amp.
Well about 20 years ago I got my foot into the audiophile world and got a system that I was pretty. Recently though I decided that I wanted something a little higher up. Started looking at different CZcams reviewer‘s including yourself, I’m really impressed with your stuff. You”re comments on musical Fidelity along with other peoples has decided me to go ahead and do the M5. I live in a fairly large space I listen to Classical music, jazz And hardly a day goes by without a little Zepplin or Tool. The room tends to be hard lots of glass and hardwood floors. I really enjoy insight into the music but I listen for long hours and so it can’t be fatiguing. If you had to make a short list of speakers to try to suggest to match with the M5 what would you recommend. Certainly I would respect your opinion greatly.
I use:
Marantz SR8015
Doge 10 padc
(runs to other amps to get mod #s)
SONY TA-A1ES - has good remote ...
Sanyo DCA 611 - was the first in collection and now it on does dust collection duty -
Yamaha A-S1200SL
Technic SUG700 (it is digital)
... now I gotta put this stuff away - tend to use the SONY lots
Like your vids. Thanks.
Have ordered a Wilsentin(sp?) R8 ...
Besides the awesome equipment that you review and the great reviews themselves, I just love the look of your room/listening environment! Looks so relaxing and inviting.
Really appreciate that, Jay. Thank you so much for watching.
Thank you Andrew. Your reviews are greatly detailed and elaborated. I enjoy so many of your reviews. You have a great sense of beauty and delicacy on your videos. Do you think that this musical fidelity m5si is a great match with the fyne audio F502?
My research from Arcam SA30 -Yamaha AS1200 to Parasound Halo Hint 6. Now I think this is sweat spot budget wise..I finally found my Integrated amp Thanks Andrew
My previous system consisted of a Musical Fidelity X-Ray CD player, X-A2 integrated amp, and Tannoy DC6 SE speakers (upgraded from Tannoy Revolution R1s.) I'd had this system since 1999. Time to upgrade though.
Recently I've been coming back to RATM, both the self-titled and Evil Empire each have amazing production in their own way. The debut sounds super slick while Evil Empire sounds like four guys jamming in a room.
Nice review! Still loving my M2si. I use mine as a preamp often with a much more expensive amp and as a preamp it's superb. I have heard that the preamp section in these integrateds are the star of the show that pulls huge amounts of detail and sets the superb tonality. All of their units from the M2si on up use a laser trimmed, resistor based stepped attenuator and that has much to do with the detail retrieval, soundstage and scale. On its own as an integrated it's superb for the price and the way you described the sound of all the three that you reviewed it aligns spot on with what I hear in the M2si. In large part, as you move up the line the basic sound is there throughout but you gain more power and features as you go. Thanks, guys!
Thank you so much Sean, appreciate the added insight and perspective!
I tried Bang & Olufson then Arcam and Cyrus as serious kits, but ended up with Musical Fidelity A5 series Cd and Integrated amp. I had an Arcam A85 pre and power combo but found the A5 integrated sounded much betted. I Upgraded the cs player to the M6 and had the A5 modified by an ex MF engineer. Been happy with it and just changed speakers but ended up with Totem Stfaffs upgraded from Arros.
Hello Andrew,
I recently bought the M6si to pair with a pair of Focal 1038Be, a Rega Planar 6 turntable with a Soundsmilth Carmen MKII ES moving iron cartridge, with cables by Cardas Clear Reflection. Long story short, divorce, sold all of my HT equipment, moved from a house with a dedicated HT room to a loft apartment with space for only analog and listening to music. I do not miss the HT. The M6si drives those speakers with such ease and the bass that is coming through is amazing. Most music listened to is Vocals, Jazz, Classical, and Classic Rock. The vocals are amazing. I was not impressed with the phono stage on the M6si so I added a KC Vibe phono stage which made a HUGE difference. Amazing sound. I'm streaming through a BlueSound Node 2i that is connected directly to the Internet (my music is on Amazon). I totally agree, the remote is horrible, but I hardly use it as I don't find it very responsive as well. I like to turn that heavy dial to achieve the proper volume. BTW, I've never pushed the volume more than 1/3 the way and this is in a loft that is 32'long x12'wide x 16'high. Love your reviews and your passion to achieve a wonderful listening experience. Thank you.
I have the M6si with Focal 1038Be too. Amazing combination. I just need a better DAC now and a streamer and I’ll be set
@@joshuabrain9751 Since I stream through Amazon, I use the BlueSound Node 2i; however, it's best to be directly wired to the router, otherwise it drops a lot over wifi. It has it's own DAC.
Thoroughly enjoyed that review, guys...spot on. Andrew, I couldn't agree more re: remotes...there is no excuse. Sweet spot experiment would be speakers and I ended up going vintage - two stacked pairs of Meridian M1 active (upper pair inverted). I am clearly in need of help 😂👍. Take care, guys and keep up the excellent work. Thank you.
I love Meridian speakers! Thanks for watching and thank you for the positivity!
I like your last statement. "The only person that has to like your system is you". I'm glad I don't have ears that requires more refined equipment that cost a lot of money. Ha. My Sony av receiver serves me fine. Enjoy these videos even if I won't buy most of the tech reviewed. Thumbs up!
That ending was 🔥. Great review guys.
Thank you so much. Always appreciate that you watch until the end.
Priceless.
Another fantastic review! Great job as always! Love the look of the M5! Also, I notice a new painting in the background! Very nice! Lol
Oh... Also to answer the QOTD... I have a simple white Orbit turntable and Audioengine A2+ speakers. Small and simple. Thinking I may need to upgrade down the road when the funds are available, but for now this setup works to spin my beat up old albums from the 70's and 80's. Lol
@@brianbrockhoff I love that setup. Only what you need, nothing you don't. 👍
@@robinsonbrand Lol... Thanks my friend. It is hard not to have gear envy when watching your amazing videos! Lol
100% agree with you Andrew. The M5si is my go to amp :P I don't care about its remote nor its DAC, what it does right is more than enough to do justice to its purchase, period! Thanks for putting out real world reviews with weightage given to strength's & weaknesses in a simple & to the point manner. Cheers!
Excellent video. Very balanced. You make it hard to decide which way to go . Id like to see you review the ohm walsh 2000 speakers with this Musical Fidelity amp.. Thank you
just bought one , thanks for review
I really respect how you talk about your decisions as a family unit. It seems like y'all collaborate well respecting each other's strong points any you narrate that. So many other channels highlight the conflict between the system and a wife. I had to drop a Q+A channel because a lot of yucks got made about what held more value, You're system or your wife.
I'll let Kristi write her own remarks, but it means a lot to me (and I know her too) to read your comment. If I may, all either of us want for this channel and for our viewers is for them to have fun and enjoy their systems -hopefully with their loved ones. This hobby isn't meant to be exclusive, for music and movies aren't exclusive, they're about sharing. I have no stomach for male chauvinism, or people who claim to know more or be better than someone else -especially because of a hobby. You can share your experience without making others feel bad or less than. That mindset starts in one's own home and then (should) work its way out to the rest of the world. Be well. -Andrew
I just want to thank you for saying this, Zachariah. One of the most challenging things for me as a woman nevermind the fact that I'm a significant part of this channel, is seeing the WAF comments from the audio community. The constant blame game that it's the fault of women that X products exists or that "my wife won't let me have..." is tiresome and truly skips over the discussion that really needs to be taking place - that there is a lack of inclusion (and not just with women) by the audio community. I really hope that will change over time.
@zachariah adams For real - some of the other channels are so toxic.
@Andrew Robinson - when you're forming your impressions, what volume are you usually listening at?
Totally agree Andrew! I also have the M2si and that was the first of the two that I purchased and that was on sale for like $560.00 a few months ago. I loved that one so much I got the M5si for my Elacs.
I bet the Elacs really respond well to the M5si. Thanks for sharing!
Really compelling review. Makes me want to keep this one on my radar. Thank you for your insights.
Appreciate you watching!
You deciding to keep this over the Yamaha... wow, what an endorsement if any. Thank you for this video. It was very helpful!
Omg the cheesecake factory reference was so on point , and yes the musical fidelity 5 series is really good, I heard it at Upscale Audio a few years ago . It was open clean with a touch of warmth that made me question to this day why I purchased something more expensive for minimal gain.
Great review Andrew!! It’s hard to ignore the M5/6Si vs the Technics SU-G700 Considering I have the Klipsch RP-8000F speakers. What are your thoughts?
Good review Andrew. Would the Kef R3 speaker be a good match for this m5si. I'm trying to upgrade my system and considering these two components to match. TtIA
I've been hoping you would review the m5si, as I had noted it in several other reviews. I've ran a pair of MF M1PWR monoblocks for about 5 years, and loved them. I was wanting to step up from using my AVR as my 2 channel preamp, and your m8xi/m3si review was very helpful. I had decided the m5si was the sweet spot in the range, based on specs and value. When I started looking I found a very gently used m6si for the price of an m5si retail, and decided to take the plunge. I plan to acquire the cambridge CXN v2, which I can use via the xlr inputs. Paired with Monitor Audio Silver 300 towers. Have you ever auditioned Monitor Audios? Love the channel.
I wasn't convinced by M5si's DAC either, so i added RME ADI-2 DAC. Holly snacks, the improvement was bigger than i anticipated! But i must say that i had Arcam iRdac previously and i though that the integrated DAC of Musical Fidelity was doing a silghtly better job.
Hi! Thank you for this great review! May I ask you which Music Fidelity amp will better match the Monitor Audio Silver 200 (6g)? I just bought them and I run them with an old school Technics SU-V300 Mark II. :) Thank you!
Excellent work as usual, question, in what category can enter the Hegel H95, I know that you can't rate it or testing..by the way, is in the bright future of you review the kef LS50 meta??
If we talking about amps my patch in last yeara was Yamaha rn-602, Nad c326, Onkyo 9130, Onkyo 9150 and after that I've found my sweet spot with Atoll in100se.
Hi Andrew: I purchased an M5si on your recommendation - love it. But in searching for better sound would my system benefit from a separate preamp? Already have a Pro-Ject S2 Ultra phono preamp. Is the power section of the M5si good enough to warrant this? Use a Bluesound Node streamer, Cambridge DacMagic 200M dac (your recommendation) & 1984 Klipsch Cornwalls. Love your videos! Jim.
Sigo vuestro canal y estoy encantado ..muchas gracias por hablar más despacio ...el traductor va mejor
Un abrazo desde España
For anyone considering this, I have a 20+ year old MF A300 integrated. It's worked flawlessly in all of that time. Beyond watts, these are high current amplifiers that can deliver massive dynamic peaks. As Andrew mentioned, they can be a little dry and unforgiving in the top end especially. On a great recording that can mean a lot of 'air' and sparkle but it can make poor source material almost unlistenable. People with bright or metal dome tweeter owners be warned!
Good review. If I'd auditioned the Musical Fidelity, I might not have the amp I now love.
The Schiit Ragnok 2 integrated is a charmer. So neutral, transparent and engaging that I lost my desire to keep looking for other amplification. The only limitation is the power at 60WPC. That said, Schiit makes a 100WPC AB amplifier for $700 that I could couple to the preamp via the pre-outs. That would put the Schiit amp, preamp combination at $2200 and would put it within 10% the Musical Fidelity price unless you add in a good interconnect, then we are looking at 20%. As long as we are talking about quality Brit products, I have been very impressed with my Audiolab 6000 CDT transport. Solid, reliable and does an excellent job.
I hear good things about the Schiit Audio amps. I hope to try one or two in 2021. Thanks for sharing!
My recent re-entry into audio: Freya+ and a pair of Aegirs (bridged, of course)
Thanks Andrew, nice informative video. I’ve just ordered the M6si but could you tell me please, at 400mm deep, will it sit okay on my shelf at 360mm or do I need to put a deeper shelf in to my rack?
Finally landed on the Rogue Sphinx v3 and Tannoy Revolution xt8f speakers with Kimber Kable speaker wire. TT is Project Debut Carbon Esprit SB with Ortofon 2m blue. TT will be the next piece to upgrade. Almost went with Musical Fidelity but I wanted to play with tubes.
I am looking at this amp or the Rogue Sphinx as well. I also own a pair of LRS speakers. Have you listened to both amps? How did you land on the Rogue amp? Would be so nice to be able to A/B equipment before a big purchase. Looking to upgrade from my Integra surround sound amp for stereo listening with my Maggies.
Hello Andrew this is one of the products Ive has a strong interest in , Im getting back to basics and music listening . O your review comes at a great time thank you . The speakers I have been leaning towards are the Goldenear reference bookshelves . Do you think that would be a good match ?
I was looking for a well reviewed class a/b amplifier on a budget. It came down to the iotavx integrated and the Sound Artist SA200ia integrated. In the end I decided on the Sound Artist based on a reviewer's claim that it drives the Magnepan LRS speakers "fantastically". I don't have a pair of those but for its price point it seemed like I could have reasonable expectations of it. I gotta say... It's pretty amazing to my ears and for its $409 price tag I feel like you'd be very hard pressed to find it some reasonable competition. Worth a review if you feel so inclined.
Hi Andrew, Great Channel! Would you recommend this M5si with the Arylic S50Pro vs. the Naim Atom for sound quality on Klipsch RP speakers? I'm having a hard time getting OK to pull the trigger on the Naim for $3300. Will you be reviewing Klipsch Forte III at some point? Also saw that you had some RP-600M on stands a while back but not finding the review, will this be coming out? Thank you!
@Andrew Robinson Here in Europe, Yamaha 1200 is same price as M5Si. Would that change your purchase decision? as regards to value proposition.
Hi Andrew, what speakers would you suggest for this amp?
Look's like a GREAT product. The thing I like the most? I can easily read the labels under all the knobs and switches. So many black audio products use not white, but a dar ochre-colored type which is all but illegible unless you stand there with a flashlight every time you need to use the panel. Ugh. Great review Andrew!
Good point! Thank you for watching!
Great review Andrew! Its a pleasure to listen to your thoughts :)
Thank you so much.
Any thought on how the built-in phono stage in the M5si/M3si would compare to an entry level standalone unit (I.e. Schiit Mani) if using mm cartridge? Thanks
Just purchased the M5si today. I heard them side by side the M3si. It is definitely worth the top-up. Paired it with an Audiolab 6000N.
Congrats! Personally, I went for the Roksan Blak instead as I have a history with their amps. But, there is no doubt the M5si is much more value for money at its price point. If I were to do it again, I probably would have given the M5si's big brother the M6si a better look. At 220W into 8 ohms, it can drive a lot of speakers. Again, specs wise it can't be beat at its price point, it would be all down to the sound difference.
Hi Cheung, cool to hear you listened to them side by side. Could you tell what is different in terms of sound? I am not interested in the extra power itself, but if the sound characteristic changes from the m2 to the m3 to the m5 that may be all the reason one needs to prefer one over the other.
I for one like what I hear in this review about the m5, but if the m3 gives the same sound at less power I'm ok with that, given the sensitivity of my speakers.
More often then not, along with the power comes a (slight) change in sound. Is that the case here?
@@HerrFinsternis The difference in power will give you some headroom. The differences are subtle. For me it was about the build quality. The sound is about the same. Felt like the M5si had slightly better control over the speakers. I was listening to a pair of Sonus Faber Sonneto I.
@@jfloop77 No I was able to get another amp that was on my shortlist (Marantz PM8006) with a 35% discount. Figured I could always resell it without a loss, but I've been really happy with it and ended up pairing it with the nd8006 to get all forms analogue and digital of input you could possibly want, except for hdmi. I mainly listen to cd and vinyl, but the streamer and/or bluetooth is really handy for when you have people over and want something running in the background.
I paired it with the Wharfedale Linton's, which many people would advice against because your stacking warm on warm on warm. But I own a lot of bad recordings that need some smoothing over and this setup gives me that whilst still giving detail and a bit of punch to more modern songs and especially higher quality vinyl (from days past).
The build in tone controls are set to accommodate my living room and I highly recommend an amp that has them. I now have a sound that doesn't annoy me whatsoever, whatever I play, so I can just focus on the music 😊
I think I love the emotiva remote. Full metal jacket.
This is exact range of product I’m looking at for my upgrade in the next 2 years. I would love to see this thing against the Schiit Ragnarok 2.
I have the M5i about three years ago. Yesterday use for the first time the USB connection to my iphone . I am positively surprised about the great Quality!!!
so you think the internal DAC is good?
@@hubsi5263 I own the m5si also and compared the difference between the internal usb dac with a topping e30, topping d10, ifi zen dac, ifi zen dac signature and the ifi zen one signature dac and couldn't really be bothered with the difference in sound quality, yes those other dacs sounded a bit better, but within reason the internal dac is good enough
Yep, I'm striving for a live/realistic human vocalist.
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I've just bought the Musical Fidelity M6s prx amplifier (230 wpc) to replace my Parasound 2125v2 (I'll repurpose it to power my movies surround L/R and take that load off of my Arcam AVR5 receiver in a 7.4.4 setup). My weight requirement is < 50 lbs.
I was gonna get an integrated Musical Fidelity M6si (my requirement is a Home Theater bypass and L/R balance) but it didn't have a L/R balance; but my Parasound 2100 preamp does.
streaming source=Apple Music lossless
Fantastic review. “They aren’t going to gloss over sibilants.” That is very good to know.
Very excited by all your Musical Fidelity M reviews I've seen (and I, too, love the looks of their integrateds). The HT pass-through is also intriguing since I do plan on my music room and future 5(7?).1 room being the same.
I have a pair of Monitor Audio Silver 300s (and read your prior review of those after I acquired them, but good to know that you are pretty familiar with those speakers). I don't plan on upgrading those speakers further (very happy with them, listening on a borrowed Yamaha RX-V559 while I figure out what to decide upon for an amp).
Do you think the M5si is a good pairing with the Monitor 300s? ("good," not looking for "best" or "what will I like," but I think I'm a person who would want an amp that balances with given speakers rather than accentuates a speaker's qualities-for example, I wouldn't want to add a bright amp to bright speakers.) Or might I be on a snipe hunt about amp-speaker pairing being a thing?
Though I might want to wait until they get a better remote. :D
Hallo Andrew thank you love youre videos how would the m5 play with the 4 ohm martin logan 40i floorstander.
Keep up the good work 👍
This is very much on my short list of integrated amps. After compiling a large (and heavy) separates system, I find myself in a position that requires downsizing. I'm pushing 70, and having recently moved, lifting a 65 lbs (Rogue ST-100) amp was eye opening and revealing. I want quality, but fully understand that achieving parity with my former system is not possible. What I want is quality, listenability, and transportability. This might be it. (I already have a Chord Qutest DAC and Sutherland phono stage, so I don't care what it does or doesn't have)
Hey Andrew, thanks to this review, I have been and purchased the M5 and really am quite impressed. Not going to lie, it was to replace an Sonos Amp, running Monitor Audio Silver S8, Michell Gyro SE and Vertere Phono Stage - Adding this amp has been transformational, and has well, in the shor-term saved me circa £4k as I was about to upgrade the Monitor Audios to the 300 Gold Series, but now I sit questioning this? Also trying to find a supplier that will let me test in my own home is problematic, and somewhat annoying too.
Either way, I want to say thanks for the review ;-)
KR, Rich
Another great review. The comments at the end cracked me up.
Appreciate you sticking it out through the end.
Screw bluetooth, the best advice for any audiophile, great review, thanks.
Thanks for watching until the end.
@@robinsonbrand luv that ending scene Andrew, made me lol! Oh & how's Kadi?? Miss her in th vids🍻🍸
@@gizzy2403 She'll be coming back here soon. She needs to get her hair did first.
would love to see this compared to a Hegel Amplifier
Again, another great review! Just wondering how the M3si compares to M5si. Currently, I have a choice between a five year old M6si with some issues in its speaker plug terminal or a brandnew M3si. (The M5si is out of stock)
Nice overview Andrew !
Hello again Andrew. Would you be kind enough to tell me which extractor did you use with this equipment to stream the HD music from Tidal?
I have been running a Crown Straight Line 2 preamp and two Crown Powerline 3 power amps since the 80's driving my four ESS AMT 1a speakers which I have always thought sounded really good. I am currently having the pre amp recapped at a cost of $325. I am having it done as I prefer to have my tone controls that most modern pieces lack (for whatever reason). I like having that bit of control over my music's sound if I feel it could use it. It would cost me $350 each to have the power amps recapped (that's replacing the capacitors with new ones as a preemptive measure). I am holding off on that and plan on trying out the Crown XLS Drive Core amp. I have listened to several different reviews of the Drive Cores and have come away with the impression that they seem to be a bit lacking in the mid range performance. You have piqued my interest in the Musical Fidelity products though. If it were you, which would you choose to be your main entertainment choice? I find it very difficult to audition differing brands as there are so few audio dealers around anymore. What does one do? I can't buy what I can't hear!!
Hi Andrew. Long time. Hope all is well. "You had me at hello" (your opening comment that is) we like to get it right the first time. OMG that's what I am trying to do. I stopped video after you said what speakers you paired this amp with, and all I want to say: thanks for including the Klipsch. I see you still have the H IVs, dang you Do like them don't you. That's great. I'm waiting for my dealer to stock the Forte IVs, but he gave a great price on the IIIs, figures. Stay Healthy
Great review, team! I find myself primarily chasing 3 things when putting together a hifi system: the midrange/mid-bass heft and weight you described as a attribute of the Music Fidelity M5, 3D dimensionality, and tonal realism that helps to create an emotional connection to the music. I often feel like it's almost futile to expect all three boxes to get checked without keeping a stock of speakers an amps to mix and match but it's totally worth the journey for me.
My current gear:
Schiit Ragnorok 2
Kef LS50
Klipsch Heresy IV
Tekton Lore Reference
Buchardt A500
That’s quite a lineup of speakers!
@@robinsonbrand long story but I accidentally bought the Klipsch and Tekton at the same time. I ordered the Tekton's with a special walnut veneer and was initially told it was canceled bc of Covid related supply issues but then that changed after I had already ordered the Heresy's. No complaints here, though :)
Which of the two do you prefer?
@@robinsonbrand I can't wait to be able to share that with you but I haven't gotten that far along yet. Technically the Tekton's are still in assembly and the Heresy's just arrived two days ago. I don't have any experience with speakers that are highly efficient so I'm expecting I'll be exploring a whole new world.
i'm happy to report back once I get everything set up. Also, more than happy to let you borrow the Tekton's if you're ever in the Portland area :)
Andrew with the M5 be an excellent companion with the La Scalas ? I have commented on your videos before I had Macintosh I was just sick and tired of over analyzing my system I love my speakers so I kept them and I’m looking for an integrated amp hands-down that allows the speakers to flourish. I will be playing vinyl and some form of SACD/CD and I am looking for an integrated so how did the vinyl sound on the music Fidelity and five
Going with the M6si, reason.. I don't know for sure other than it has a few more bells and whistles.. i.e balanced inputs??
Question: Have you ever evaluated any McIntosh equipment? And if so, what do you think? I have been using a Crown Straight Line 2 Preamp paired with 2 Crown Powerline 3 Amps that are still performing well for me. And have you ever evaluated any ESS speakers? I have 4 ESS AMT1a units that still sound as good as the day I bought them.
Nice video, do you think its a good combo with my ATC SCM11?
Question: I got 2 turntables with audiophile-grade styli, but Im not a DJ nor do scratching. I just want to be able to continuously listen to music. While I listen to an album, I prep the next one. Do you recommend a DJ mixer with 2-phono input channels or 2 separate dedicated phono preamps? Which do you recommend? I want the best possible sound with a budget of no more than $500.
What cables do you use for the loudspeakers? And what rca cables you use?
Love these reviews. Wonder how the M6si500 fits into the lineup between the M6si and the M8xi.
Hallo, do you know what kind of DAC is integrated and would you recommend it?