Gateway Church scrutinizes former pastor Robert Morris' account after sexual assault accusation

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  • čas přidán 23. 06. 2024
  • Robert Morris' own accounts of his past are now in question. Church elders say Morris disclosed he had an extramarital affair, not that he had abused a 12-year-old.

Komentáře • 448

  • @DingleMcGilacutty
    @DingleMcGilacutty Před 6 dny +56

    In this guys “sermon” where he “admitted” his wrongdoings he precisely described the process of grooming a child. Identifying at risk children. Targeting them for abuse. Isolating the child from their support system. Threatening and coercing the child into not coming forward. And then, most sickening of all, he shifts the blame from his own predatory behavior to fathers who aren’t present in the lives of young girls. Highlighting what could happen to these girls if their fathers aren’t around to protect them from men like him. He actually used his disgusting and predatory behavior to reinforce an old and worn out trope that it isn’t really the fault of men like him, it’s the fault of fathers who aren’t around to protect their daughters from “men” like him. I’d like to say I’m shocked… But, we’ve seen this pattern play out so many times. Just look at the former head of the SBC who died last week. Mr. Pressler. Who had been doing this since the 70s. And was aided by others in the industry. And shielded from accountability by politicians and clergy after power and the almighty dollar. All for the low cost of the soul of a child. Disgusting.

    • @saintbees2088
      @saintbees2088 Před 6 dny +5

      And he blamed his wife for rejecting him.

    • @patriot4amer
      @patriot4amer Před 5 dny

      Victim is a grandmother now...Morris is a grandfather...both parties need repentance..restitution..restoration......maybe both can start a ministry for human trafficking at the border...with Joe Biden

    • @laurykristensen6239
      @laurykristensen6239 Před 4 dny +2

      The sermon is called "Room 12 - Rebellious Roots. It's still available and very incriminating.

    • @laurykristensen6239
      @laurykristensen6239 Před 4 dny +9

      @@saintbees2088 omg. And his wife blamed the girl as "flirtatious"

    • @saintbees2088
      @saintbees2088 Před 4 dny +7

      @patriot4amer why does the victim need to repent?

  • @user-kr9zb2ng8i
    @user-kr9zb2ng8i Před 5 dny +26

    He should not have been allowed to resign. He should have been thrown out.

  • @gloriakutach9541
    @gloriakutach9541 Před 5 dny +18

    STOP with law firm…stop with PR firms…shut the doors close Gateway down

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 Před 2 dny

      Why do you want the church shut down, they had nothing to do with it. Why would you want people that are getting fed the word of God to stop getting it? Sounds so evil to want that!

  • @jeffbaca1173
    @jeffbaca1173 Před 3 dny +7

    Allowed to preach, making 6 figures, enjoying the fruits of life - no consequences, 2nd tier justice.

  • @FullFrontalExposure
    @FullFrontalExposure Před 7 dny +71

    Thanks to Robert morris we may see the downfall of the mega churches.

    • @dma124
      @dma124 Před 7 dny +11

      I’m surprised that they’ve lasted this long.

    • @TheMagician2024
      @TheMagician2024 Před 7 dny +1

      They've had the support of white supremacists ​@@dma124

    • @rick3514
      @rick3514 Před 6 dny +3

      Jesus said, "Let the one among you without sin cast the first stone, to the people that wanted to stone a woman that was caught in the act of adultery.

    • @rick3514
      @rick3514 Před 6 dny

      @@dma124 Why did she wait decades to talk about it and how much did the democrats pay her to talk about it and the news media to say he was an advisor to president Trump? You haters are a disgrace! What evil things has Pastors Robert done since this happened to make ungrateful people say so many nasty things about him? Shame on all of you!!!

    • @mylareson
      @mylareson Před 6 dny +2

      🙏

  • @pburge2827
    @pburge2827 Před 4 dny +13

    Son James needs to go as well as all senior leadership and elders. Not sure why anyone would continue attending here.

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 Před 2 dny

      There's many reasons to keep attending church. The church loves God..

  • @johnsanders3859
    @johnsanders3859 Před 6 dny +17

    How many religious men have turned out to be sex offenders. There needs to be more reporting when this happens

    • @iDelta77
      @iDelta77 Před 5 dny

      He should be on sex offenders list right?

    • @carladuglin4036
      @carladuglin4036 Před 5 dny

      The word religious should be in quotes!

    • @teresasmith4145
      @teresasmith4145 Před 2 dny

      @@johnsanders3859 God's word / wisdom is not being taught in this building 🤣🤣🤣 God laughs and scoffs at evil 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 me too 👺😇🙋

  • @bransft
    @bransft Před 6 dny +15

    The older pastors having sexual and extramarital affairs. The younger pastors, although they’re not that much younger, in their mid to late 30’s are full of vanity and seek to make themselves more known than the God they are supposed to follow and serve. The church has lost its credibility and is no longer reverent to its own God.

    • @robertherrera1234
      @robertherrera1234 Před 6 dny +4

      Bad theology = bad morals. If you compromise on the Word of God you’ll compromise in your life.

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 Před 2 dny

      Wow, your so off base

  • @virginiapatton-pf4oc
    @virginiapatton-pf4oc Před 5 dny +22

    She was not a young lady she was a child

    • @SusanMartin-vm7zr
      @SusanMartin-vm7zr Před 2 dny +1

      Preteen.

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 Před 2 dny

      ​@@SusanMartin-vm7zrexactly. A little girl is 10 or younger. 12 is preteen. She turned 13 couple weeks later

    • @tako-je-sunny
      @tako-je-sunny Před dnem +1

      @@petefults5984 Stop promoting sin.

    • @tako-je-sunny
      @tako-je-sunny Před dnem

      @@SusanMartin-vm7zr Stop defending sin. Preteen means basically nothing. She's was a little girl.

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 Před dnem

      @@tako-je-sunny I'm not promoting anything. Stop lying!!!!!!!!

  • @stjohnssoup
    @stjohnssoup Před 4 dny +8

    Extra marital affair is different from being a PDFILE

  • @debybennett630
    @debybennett630 Před 6 dny +35

    He needs to go to jail!

  • @gigglesribera2379
    @gigglesribera2379 Před 3 dny +4

    She was a child and as a child in the 1980s times, attitudes, and culture around sexual abuse was VERY DIFFERENT. The law was not sympathetic or empathetic to victims. Females let alone males were treated indifferently or made it up and misinterpreted the predators intentions. The 80s were profoundly different. Blaming the family is NOT ok. Compounding w/ Christianity even worse. More ppl are affected. There are more kids affected by this hypocrisy.

  • @marysantis1856
    @marysantis1856 Před 4 dny +6

    There must be something mentally wrong with a man who finds a child sexually appealing.
    I believe Pastor Morris repented if there are not any other cases.
    Pastor Morris has grand children. What if a grown man went after your children/g kids. Pastor you would be horrified. This is how we feel.
    I pray you have truly repented.

  • @kelleyrogers6013
    @kelleyrogers6013 Před 4 dny +5

    He loved the money so much that he couldnt pay his victim

  • @centariprime9959
    @centariprime9959 Před 5 dny +6

    Elder Tom Lane knew the truth in 2005. Why didn't he tell the other Elders? Why was Robert Morris still allowed to be a pastor?

  • @THETexxStarr
    @THETexxStarr Před 6 dny +21

    Ask Olen Griffing and the Elders of Shady Grove if they knew.

    • @Skiis44
      @Skiis44 Před 5 dny +4

      Especially since Olen is a former State Trooper and knew the law.

  • @virginiapatton-pf4oc
    @virginiapatton-pf4oc Před 5 dny +8

    His son should not be pastor at Gateway people need a separation from the whole Morris family to heal and rebuild

    • @bl954
      @bl954 Před 4 dny

      Agreed! From what I've heard GW is in the process of looking for a NEW Senior Executive Pastor. We'll see how well that goes. Because if they can't find onre, then they're rapidly headed for the trash heap of history. A very, very sad situation for all at GW.

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 Před 2 dny

      ​@@bl954how do you know that?

  • @ruthbudden393
    @ruthbudden393 Před 5 dny +9

    WHAT IS THERE TO INVESTIGATE, REALLY 😢

    • @Howiefaam31459
      @Howiefaam31459 Před 2 dny

      The private investigation by GW is just a fig leaf to allow many elders to get off easy😢

  • @mrnice111
    @mrnice111 Před 7 dny +27

    The mega church model is now done we just don't know it yet. It makes it too easy for the power hungry to get in control while good men are pushed out of the way.

    • @JewandGreek
      @JewandGreek Před 7 dny +4

      There is no megachurch model. There are denominational megachurches who are very traditional, and Reformed megachurches like John MacArthur's, and Pentecostal/charismatic megachurches that are more mainstream, and then you have personality led megachurches like Elevation, Lakewood, and Gateway.

    • @Billpeterson4785
      @Billpeterson4785 Před 7 dny +3

      No chance, the snake oil will keep flowing. There was thunderous applause on Saturday for the crocodile tears of the Pastor speaking.

    • @rick3514
      @rick3514 Před 6 dny +1

      Jesus said, "Let the one among you without sin cast the first stone, to the people that wanted to stone a woman that was caught in the act of adultery.

    • @rick3514
      @rick3514 Před 6 dny

      Why did she wait decades to talk about it and how much did the democrats pay her to talk about it and the news media to say he was an advisor to president Trump? You haters are a disgrace! What evil things has Pastors Robert done since this happened to make ungrateful people say so many nasty things about him? Shame on all of you!!!

    • @dfwguy7149
      @dfwguy7149 Před 5 dny

      @@rick3514 YEAH....just keep that sick enabling dysfuntion going for more generations.

  • @jamespetehoisington2459
    @jamespetehoisington2459 Před 5 dny +10

    Unfortunately this same abuse happens in small home churches also.

    • @johnpaulwebb3440
      @johnpaulwebb3440 Před 5 dny

      Every Day!

    • @sues3218
      @sues3218 Před 5 dny

      It can happen anywhere, that is why we are told to "test the spirit to see whether or not it is from God". Christians today are biblically ignorant, therefore may are unable to test accurately. They blindly follow a charasmatic person without reading the entire bible themselves and testing what they were told, or what was done. Jesus warned us about false prophets and teachers, and to be on guard against them. Christians today lack discernment, thus they are easy targets for the wiles of the devil. Bretheren, pick up your bible and read it all YOURSELF, and measure everything against what it says. Don't blindly follow a man, follow Jesus instead. Sit at the LORD's feet and learn from Him through His word, the entire council of God, both the Old and the New Testaments.

    • @Jesusisthe1way
      @Jesusisthe1way Před 3 dny +1

      These things happen wherever human beings exist.

    • @johnpaulwebb3440
      @johnpaulwebb3440 Před 3 dny

      @@Jesusisthe1way God created us all in his image?

  • @TrustJesus333
    @TrustJesus333 Před 7 dny +34

    Wolf in sheep’s clothing.

    • @rick3514
      @rick3514 Před 6 dny +2

      Jesus said, "Let the one among you without sin cast the first stone, to the people that wanted to stone a woman that was caught in the act of adultery.

    • @rick3514
      @rick3514 Před 6 dny

      Why did she wait decades to talk about it and how much did the democrats pay her to talk about it and the news media to say he was an advisor to president Trump? You haters are a disgrace! What evil things has Pastors Robert done since this happened to make ungrateful people say so many nasty things about him? Shame on all of you!!!

    • @TrustJesus333
      @TrustJesus333 Před 6 dny

      @@rick3514 Amazing to me how some approach this. You do realize there was no born-again yet right? That woman was
      completely lost, therefore, a child of satan. Mr. Morris has claimed Christianity throughout his several years of pedophilia,
      then decades of manipulation and deception.
      Sadly, you need understanding and discernment.
      Jesus would not have taught us about wolves in sheep’s clothing if He did not
      want us to recognize them. Mr. Morris is the exact representation of a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
      The lack of discernment of so many is truly dangerous.

    • @iDelta77
      @iDelta77 Před 5 dny +1

      ​@@rick3514therefore no accountability should be done for the man teaching on the pulpit. I hope this does not ever happen to your daughter!
      This is a crime is it not? Other people got sentenced 25 years for doing something less than what he did

    • @sues3218
      @sues3218 Před 5 dny +4

      @@rick3514 Keep things in context, we are told to DISCERN things, and to test the spirit, so that we are not led astray by men like Morris. We are not to associate with them. His fruit exposes him to be a wolf in sheep's clothing. Jesus said to know them by their fruit/deeds/actions. Listen to ALL that the bible teaches on any topic. Accurately handle and divide the word of truth. Teachers are also biblically held at a stricter accountability. Jesus was angry at the religious hypocrites. (Just sayin')

  • @johnpaulwebb3440
    @johnpaulwebb3440 Před 5 dny +5

    Oh Lord Forgive Me, for I have been caught.

  • @paulachinn6306
    @paulachinn6306 Před 2 dny +3

    Pay for her counseling if you are so sorry

  • @NancyAnderson-nt8bm
    @NancyAnderson-nt8bm Před 6 dny +17

    Leaders can be restored to the church but not put back in leadership or pastoral positions.

    • @robertherrera1234
      @robertherrera1234 Před 6 dny +3

      Which made him unqualified from the beginning but RM says “God told me” to start Gateway. Nah! God doesn’t go against His Word!

    • @NancyAnderson-nt8bm
      @NancyAnderson-nt8bm Před 6 dny

      Exactly!!!!

  • @monahavens5798
    @monahavens5798 Před 6 dny +12

    This is probably not the only one. There are many others of age and under age. The worst thing of all is that the wife probably knew! The wife always knows but had rather live in denial.

    • @k_DAN
      @k_DAN Před 6 dny +1

      She knew all about it.

    • @4gma59
      @4gma59 Před 6 dny

      I haven't heard about anyone else coming forward.

    • @tinifer
      @tinifer Před 6 dny +1

      He has sermons where he refers to "many".

    • @4gma59
      @4gma59 Před 6 dny +1

      @@tinifer site those sermons, please

    • @laurykristensen6239
      @laurykristensen6239 Před 4 dny

      @@4gma59 Nick Jones podcast. 12:27 "multiple, multiple affairs"....
      Nick reviews a sermon where Roberts admits to seeking out young girls who were vulnerable. You can find the full sermon from there as well. Very damning.

  • @nicknovello5589
    @nicknovello5589 Před 6 dny +14

    His handling of this, in the form of his communication with Debbie is chilling and sociopathic.

  • @patdempsey8325
    @patdempsey8325 Před 7 dny +25

    He’s worth over 100 million Debbie knew he’s sick too. He’s son is a joke

    • @TheMagician2024
      @TheMagician2024 Před 7 dny +1

      I think his daughter knew he was sick also. She married a black man

    • @KansasMiss-mf4bj
      @KansasMiss-mf4bj Před 7 dny +1

      Yes, Debbie is complicit in this too. She knew he was molesting a minor.

    • @jasongates-
      @jasongates- Před 6 dny +36

      @@TheMagician2024 What does the daughter's husband's race have to do with anything?!?!?! 😠

    • @TheMagician2024
      @TheMagician2024 Před 6 dny

      @@jasongates- it says to me that she didn't want to marry a white man because she knew something wasn't right

    • @TheMagician2024
      @TheMagician2024 Před 6 dny

      @@jasongates- she didn't want a white man

  • @michelledasilva8313
    @michelledasilva8313 Před 4 dny +2

    Ps Morris, I stand with you. Your sins have been forgiven. Only 1 sin is not forgivable; blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
    God help Ps Morris.

    • @ritabrandow1318
      @ritabrandow1318 Před 2 dny +2

      He may be forgiven by our heaven Father but , the bible says. He should be punished by the law. We need to read , line up on line precept upon precept 😢😢😢 please don't forget she was just a child 12. All thru out the nt it says how in authority is more accountable than just believers. It tells them how to live. Also, Jesus Himself said ," if one offends one of the little ones. It is better they had never been born. That is Jesus's own words. Yes, we are to forgive but he is still held accountable. I know I said it twice. The point needed to be made. I hope you never had a child and something never happens to them

  • @4gma59
    @4gma59 Před 6 dny +5

    2 years isn't long enough for a ''restoration process'' though.

    • @miketrillo8067
      @miketrillo8067 Před 6 dny

      Yes, and because of the fact the repeated rape disqualified him from being a pastor (1 Tim. 3:1-7), it should have been a lifetime, not just 2 years

  • @GodBlessYou112
    @GodBlessYou112 Před 2 dny +2

    Proverbs 10:12
    Hatred stirs up conflict, but love covers over all wrongs.

    • @chazdee-zd9li
      @chazdee-zd9li Před 10 hodinami

      Thanks for posting this, it's a fruit among thorns 🙏

  • @sandiee4247
    @sandiee4247 Před dnem +1

    30 years ago people ONE incident! Why she bringing it up now to ruin his life? Ridiculous..... Hes repented, hes human. Move on gold digger.

  • @irenek2691
    @irenek2691 Před 4 dny +2

    I don’t understand why all this and NOW? After 40 years? Robert Morris was forgiven by Cindy’s dad that time.
    He also went to hiatus. So the blood of Jesus was working only for 40 years? Corrie Ten Boom quotes: God buries our sins in the depths of the sea and then puts up a sign that reads, “No Fishing”
    It looks to me as if someone else is interested taking over this mega church. 😮

  • @patdempsey8325
    @patdempsey8325 Před 7 dny +20

    He’s so fake

    • @rick3514
      @rick3514 Před 6 dny +3

      Jesus said, "Let the one among you without sin cast the first stone, to the people that wanted to stone a woman that was caught in the act of adultery.

    • @rick3514
      @rick3514 Před 6 dny

      Why did she wait decades to talk about it and how much did the democrats pay her to talk about it and the news media to say he was an advisor to president Trump? You haters are a disgrace! What evil things has Pastors Robert done since this happened to make ungrateful people say so many nasty things about him? Shame on all of you!!!

    • @HisPresence2024
      @HisPresence2024 Před 6 dny +2

      Ya know I’ve watched him quite a bit over the past few years. There’s no way I’d believe that he’s the same man that did this 40 yrs ago.
      If this was a different felony offense that happened way back then, no one would even give it a second thought.

  • @Monorail-Beyond-the-Veil
    @Monorail-Beyond-the-Veil Před 7 dny +13

    Some good has come from all of this - Robert morris stepping down, and the elders/church leadership being questioned about how much they really knew. He was a false teacher anyway, so I am glad he is gone.

    • @jeanelledge7199
      @jeanelledge7199 Před 7 dny +5

      Robert Morris was stepping down next year anyway and the church had already voted for his son to replace him. Nothing has changed except the timeline of his stepping down has been moved forward. This is not punishment for his crime.

    • @iDelta77
      @iDelta77 Před 5 dny

      Thats called netizen justice. It takes far too long! Over 30 years. Imagine watching this played out while trying to tell people what he did and no one believes you.

  • @joyfuljoy4944
    @joyfuljoy4944 Před dnem +1

    I appreciate the word of God & how Robert Morris explains it. Will I still be able to listen to his sermons?When I made errors of judgment in my past, I was forgiven by my Lord. I no longer live in the guilt of them. That was a VERY bad laps in judgment of R.M, however, it was also 35 years ago. Alot of healing has taken place for Robert. Whats the purpose of 35 years ago it coming forward now... I find that motivation very suspicious. I am not minimizing what, happened. Is the devil "afoot"???

  • @tammymitchell4612
    @tammymitchell4612 Před 2 dny +1

    Why isn't he in jail?

  • @curtismagoon7085
    @curtismagoon7085 Před 4 hodinami

    Pastor Robert Morris years ago set things straight with the parents thanks for saddled with them and he went through corrective action years ago through the church . There is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus and he was without sin cast the first stone . Our Father God built an incredible ministry through Robert to share his word and his truth about the Gospel of Jesus Christ and his love for his children . Now it seems kind of weird to me something is brought up 35 years after the fact about a pastor who supported former president Donald Trump . Sounds like a Stormy Daniels 2.0 . No weapon formed against you shall prosper . Stand strong and there are people around the world in Dallas and your own church I believe in you . House divided cannot stand . Be strong in a good courage pastor Robert you and your family Shalom 🙏

  • @davidwaring6815
    @davidwaring6815 Před 7 hodinami

    He needs to go to Prison for LIFE!

  • @stevenwistort9903
    @stevenwistort9903 Před 3 dny

    What a shame for the Christian community to be a witness. Now his sin has found him out. And church spending money on a law firm? Big business. What a shame.

  • @SimpleChurchNetwork
    @SimpleChurchNetwork Před 6 dny +2

    I have coveted no man’s silver, or gold, or apparel. Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me. I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring YOU OUGHT to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive. - Paul the apostle to the church leaders, Acts 20:33ff.

  • @LeonCrooks-ww8bs
    @LeonCrooks-ww8bs Před 2 dny

    The other issue is He said He was Spirit Filled because He speaks in tongues. A Spirit Filled person does not commit a Crime to h

  • @davidkatcha1
    @davidkatcha1 Před 5 hodinami

    Pastor Morris, you are covered under1John 1:9
    God is taking care of your case. People may come against you but our Heavenly Father is on your side as He was with king David in the past. You are in our prayers.

  • @keiarahjohnston9887
    @keiarahjohnston9887 Před 2 dny

    It absolutely makes me sick !
    At least by me saying that doesn’t make me a hypocrite…God knows my heart!

  • @danieerasmus4538
    @danieerasmus4538 Před 5 dny +3

    In the parrable of the unmercifull servant the servant demanded that he be paid the debt that was owed to him even though his debt was forgiven. He was referered to as a wicked servant. We are all sinned against in some way or another...some of us were even younger than and the sins committed against us even greater. God expects us to forgive in order for Him to forgive and we can do that when we compare the debts...that debt that we owed God is much greater but still has been cancelled by God...should we not then cancell others debts against us? I think she was counceled incorrectly...as the only thing that will bring healing to her heart is complete forgiveness....but somehow there is still an attiute of Pay what you owe me...the same attitude the wicket unmercifull servant had!

    • @lintonlin
      @lintonlin Před 4 dny

      she is nothing more than a blackmailer , but he was a fool to ignore her demands , his name his life and everything attached to him has been destroyed except his bank account --- should have paid the extortioner

    • @saintbees2088
      @saintbees2088 Před 4 dny

      We owe God a debt? We are in this world not by our choice, and we leave not by our choice. We do our best with what we know. Is God just?

    • @lintonlin
      @lintonlin Před 4 dny

      she is a blackmailer and he was a fool to ignore her --perfect storm

  • @TabernacleTeacher
    @TabernacleTeacher Před dnem

    Why don't they ever say how old he was!!????🤦...20 wow....legalize polygyny

  • @No-way-oneway
    @No-way-oneway Před 5 dny +2

    I wonder are the hackers gonna go after him? Tell lies on him, follow him around, hack his cars, etc. I
    wonder

  • @GodBlessYou112
    @GodBlessYou112 Před 2 dny

    James 2:13
    because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment.

  • @viansu2024
    @viansu2024 Před 2 dny

    John 8:7 So when they continued asking Him, He lifted Himself up and said unto them, “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at [him].”

  • @GodBlessYou112
    @GodBlessYou112 Před 2 dny +1

    It was 42 years ago
    and it was kissing and petting
    it was not intercourse and he confessed
    the sin to her parents
    when she was 17 years old and
    he apologized to her and he received counseling for 2 years and he has confessed the sin over the years.
    her parents knew that she had been only 12 years old when he confessed when she was 17 years old and
    they didn't call the Police if what he did deserved jail time it would have happened when he confessed when she was 17 years old.

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 Před 2 dny

      Plus, why did she keep sneaking into his room for over 4 years if he was abusing her?

    • @fit_for_life_
      @fit_for_life_ Před dnem

      @@petefults5984have you heard of grooming?

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 Před dnem

      @@fit_for_life_ no, what is that? Wait, yes, people have their dogs groomed. Was that a goofy question or what..good grief!

  • @phoenixrisin2269
    @phoenixrisin2269 Před 15 hodinami

    Him, Carl Lentz, Tony Evans, TD Jakes, etc etc. These guys are narcs hiding in the church.

  • @LightHouse5G
    @LightHouse5G Před 3 dny +2

    The way it works is Jesus died for our sins. We are not to play God. Therefore forgive as commanded by Jesus.

    • @vincelong3132
      @vincelong3132 Před 11 hodinami

      You're confusing Gospel teachings with the secular law we live within.

    • @LightHouse5G
      @LightHouse5G Před 11 hodinami

      Judge nothing before the time until the Lord comes and brings to like the hidden things of darkness.

  • @BettyCooper1955
    @BettyCooper1955 Před 6 dny +9

    Maybe his wife forgave him, maybe Robert repented and asked God to forgive him, we don’t know. God’s word says have mercy when you judge other, lest the same mercy be shown to you 3:00

    • @lilit384
      @lilit384 Před 6 dny +1

      Now move on to the scriptures in Titus and 1Timothy that tell us the qualifications of an elder. Stop picking scriptures that you like as if it’s a buffet. 🙄

    • @HisPresence2024
      @HisPresence2024 Před 6 dny +3

      @@lilit384 you might want to read 1 Corinthians 6:9-10. If we take ministers’ actions 40 years ago, and remove them all, we’d likely have no ministers left.
      Are there consequences to sin, yep, but God forgives AND CHANGES PEOPLE.

    • @lilit384
      @lilit384 Před 6 dny

      @@HisPresence2024 What does that scripture have to do with the scriptures I posted on the qualifications for an elder? You conveniently ignored them. And scripture tells us in James 3:1-12 that NOT MANY of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly. So we shouldn’t have a bunch of teachers to begin with.

    • @HisPresence2024
      @HisPresence2024 Před 6 dny +1

      @@lilit384 qualifications for an elder - what/how a person IS, not what they did decades ago.
      This is insanity. We will just have to agree to disagree.
      Remember we will be judged by same standard as we judge.

    • @lilit384
      @lilit384 Před 6 dny

      @@HisPresence2024 He was a confessing Christian back then, traveling and preaching. What’s your explanation for a “Christian” who molested a 12 year old for years, lied about it for decades and then blamed the victim for his sinful behavior. I’m going to assume you don’t know all the details that have come out because nobody in their right mind would say he was ever qualified to preach unless they’re a child molester too.

  • @iDelta77
    @iDelta77 Před 6 dny +2

    Un-acceptable!!

  • @FullFrontalExposure
    @FullFrontalExposure Před 7 dny +11

    Why aren’t the fbi involved?

    • @rick3514
      @rick3514 Před 6 dny +2

      Jesus said, "Let the one among you without sin cast the first stone, to the people that wanted to stone a woman that was caught in the act of adultery.

    • @rick3514
      @rick3514 Před 6 dny

      Don't know much about the law in these kind if things to you. She has to press charges, if she done not, then the law cannot do anything about it. Also why did she wait decades to talk about it and how much did the democrats pay her to talk about it and the news media to say he was an advisor to president Trump? You haters are a disgrace! What evil things has Pastors Robert done since this happened to make ungrateful people say so many nasty things about him? Shame on all of you!!!

    • @J-lj3wj
      @J-lj3wj Před 6 dny

      God will deal with him

    • @lilit384
      @lilit384 Před 6 dny +4

      @@rick3514That scripture doesn’t apply to this situation. Go back and read the Bible!

    • @patriot4amer
      @patriot4amer Před 5 dny

      The fbi should be involved in human trafficking at the border

  • @GodBlessYou112
    @GodBlessYou112 Před 2 dny +1

    Luke 6:37
    Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

  • @jeweliedee4299
    @jeweliedee4299 Před 3 dny

    Human beings are so prone to these things. If Morris truly now has an honest heart before the Lord, then he cannot minimize what he has done. That is excruciatingly difficult but he must be open if he wants the full forgiveness of God. He will have to fear God more than he does man. I pray he does. My compassion is reserved for his then-young victim, though. Sexual abuse profoundly damages the spirit and the emotional health. Lord, heal her completely.

  • @JewandGreek
    @JewandGreek Před 7 dny +6

    Can somebody explain to me why they're protesting outside of Gateway? Robert Morris resigned, the incidents happened over 35 years ago before Gateway was started, and the victim's father didn't press charges when it happened. Are they protesting against her dad and Shady Grove church from '82-'87?

    • @Billpeterson4785
      @Billpeterson4785 Před 7 dny +11

      The church covered it up in 2005, the “elders” knew.

    • @TheMagician2024
      @TheMagician2024 Před 7 dny +3

      Her father probably didn't press charges because he thought the church was going to handle it and because the church teaches forgiveness

    • @jasongates-
      @jasongates- Před 6 dny +7

      Yes, he already resigned, but it doesn't matter if it happened ten thousand years ago. They want more accountability than that. His resignation isn't the end of the fall out phase. It's the beginning.

    • @sharoncolumpsi5249
      @sharoncolumpsi5249 Před 6 dny +2

      Has her father passed?

    • @Billpeterson4785
      @Billpeterson4785 Před 6 dny

      @@jasongates- 100million in the bank and no criminal liability…it’s over.

  • @shellieszott9091
    @shellieszott9091 Před 6 dny +4

    TBN needs to remove him as well!

  • @user-yw5mu3kv8u
    @user-yw5mu3kv8u Před 2 dny

    Forgiveness in Christ does NOT mean freedom from proper judgement. Admitting to / or getting caught in the act (four years) of the FELONY of child molestation in no way dismisses the need for civil punishment. "Retiring" from the pulpit is NOT civil justice. Apologizing is not civil justice. At a minimum, RM and all his family should lose all $$$ claims to GATEWAY, KINGS COLLEGE, future PUBLISHING, real and personal properties. Their empire has been built on a lie and they should be stopped from the continuation of ill gotten gain. Congregation members have a responsibility to withhold their money from the church until RM and his family are truly separated from ALL association with Gateway and their side hustles. $$$ is the true god that RM bends a knee to.

  • @texascop
    @texascop Před 6 dny +5

    Well, we all have fallen. All of us have sinned. Some have murdered, and some have done what is reported by the parties. If you believe in Jesus and accept him fully and unconditionally, your sins are covered and completely forgiven. Now, does this make this act no less painful? "No." But if you believe, then you must forgive and move past this. I think that Pastor Morris should forfeit half and maybe more of his assets and give it to this young lady. So, that she can get any help she wants to help settle this wrong by a man that made a terrible mistake. All parties need to step back and accept what has happened and move forward, nothing can change the past. I personally have forgiven Robert Morris for his sinful mistake and make no judgment upon him what so ever. ❤

    • @saintbees2088
      @saintbees2088 Před 6 dny +1

      Um er.... a terrible mistake which he perpetrated for 4 years? He deserves no mercy, no forgiveness, no slack." There will be judgement, however, in this life and the next.

    • @57andstillkicking
      @57andstillkicking Před 6 dny +1

      It’s not up to you to forgive him. He didn’t sin against you. It’s up to the victim to forgive him.

    • @saintbees2088
      @saintbees2088 Před 6 dny +1

      @@57andstillkicking it's not up to you to forgive him either.

    • @57andstillkicking
      @57andstillkicking Před 5 dny

      @@saintbees2088
      Oh, I know that.

    • @patriot4amer
      @patriot4amer Před 5 dny

      Repentance..restitution...restoration....use money to start a ministry to help others....

  • @GodBlessYou112
    @GodBlessYou112 Před 2 dny

    1 John 1:9
    If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.

  • @hushpuppy8334
    @hushpuppy8334 Před 6 dny +4

    Parishioners need to get up and walk out. The elders are lying.

    • @discerningtruth6848
      @discerningtruth6848 Před 5 dny +1

      Walk out droves in protest for the women and men who have been victims of sexual perverts and abusers. 😮

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 Před 2 dny

      The church is not part of this. Please stop causing so much division!

  • @kellyenglish3685
    @kellyenglish3685 Před 4 dny

    This is terribly sad! Clean house!

  • @HisPresence2024
    @HisPresence2024 Před 6 dny +5

    The media just loves this, and people feed right into it. I’m not excusing what happened years ago, but it doesn’t mean he’s that same person.
    And if it came out years ago, it should have been prosecuted then.
    I pray for every person involved in this situation.
    And GOD IS STILL THE SAME no matter who messes up!

    • @lilit384
      @lilit384 Před 6 dny +2

      You mean discerning Christians who see right through his lying wicked tail?

    • @abeekuworldchanger380
      @abeekuworldchanger380 Před 6 dny +3

      Yes, but this is also why those who are elders and such In the Church must take accountability and responsibility on these matters. There are so many people out there with Church trauma and want nothing to do with Jesus because of stuff like this.
      It happened years ago, but God isn't mocked. Those elders must have covered for him and whatever else happened. Only God knows, but some ministries out there are truly misrepresenting Christ when these things are allowed to happen. It goes against and violates scripture.

    • @miketrillo8067
      @miketrillo8067 Před 6 dny +3

      He is still deceiving the world about it, just like he did 40+ years ago. In this way, he's still the same person.

    • @HisPresence2024
      @HisPresence2024 Před 6 dny +1

      @@miketrillo8067 it came out then, and is out now, so not sure what you mean. I’d think he was ashamed back then, asked for forgiveness, and tried to move on. Would you want to divulge all that once you were a minister, knowing that people would be heartbroken?
      If this had been another crime, for example aggravated assault or felony theft, YEARS AGO would people expect him to stop ministering NOW because of that?

    • @miketrillo8067
      @miketrillo8067 Před 5 dny

      @@HisPresence2024 He deceitfully hid the fact back then that he raped her over 100x, because he knows that it would have disqualified him to be a pastor. He lied to his wife that the 12 year old victim seduced him, which was why his wife called the victim and told her that she forgives her.
      His statement last week to the christian post was deceitfully worded to hide the full truth, claiming that it was an "inappropriate sexual behavior"--it was actually rape-molestation. He claimed that it was with a "young lady"--it was actually with a 12 year old child. He claimed it was "wrong"--it was actually criminal. He claimed it happened on "several occasions over the next few years"--it was over 100x over 4.5 years.
      He lied to the congregation, he lied to his wife, and he lied to his kids, which was why his son in law Ethan Fisher shared what he shared about robert this past sunday.
      Pls read 1 Tim. 3:1-7 when you get a chance. Based on his criminal background, he was never pastor qualified to begin with. He deceived his way into becoming a pastor, he deceived everyone to stay in the pastoral position, and he's still deceiving everyone now that he's not a pastor any longer.

  • @IRIEMUSIC1
    @IRIEMUSIC1 Před 9 hodinami

    God forgave King David for his sin with Bathseba and killing her husband Uriah. Though horrible for an adult Robert, under God's grace qualifies for Jesus's forgiveness if he truly has repented of this heinous sin. That is what God's love and grace is all about. The journey of accountability to the traumatized victim and fellow Christian community is a separate matter. God said we 'ALL' have sinned and come short of God’s expectations for us. I can only pray that after the accountability process, peace and forgiveness can be achieved for all involved.

  • @LeonCrooks-ww8bs
    @LeonCrooks-ww8bs Před 2 dny

    He walked in an unrepentant once. Which He was still in sin He mentioned sin Mentioned Cindy in his message

  • @marygarrett9724
    @marygarrett9724 Před 7 dny

    No, the son in law is too, Sr. Pastor

  • @liamariloutenkah8489
    @liamariloutenkah8489 Před 5 dny

    If victims would make a police report when it happens more lives could be spared. How much restitution is sufficient- millions of dollars?

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 Před 2 dny

      Right. She asked for 2 million but she knew he did not have anywhere near that much

  • @juliapearce4380
    @juliapearce4380 Před 5 dny

    They are not being honest…

  • @RonaldEarlWilsher
    @RonaldEarlWilsher Před 4 dny

    The fact the 'elders' didn't know the truth is proof they covered it all up. T
    Either they are lying or they didn't wanna know the truth.
    I hope she sues the haaaaale outta all of them.

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 Před 2 dny

      The fact the elders didn't know the truth is proof they covered it all up? Do you know how that makes no sense???

  • @louisparra4398
    @louisparra4398 Před 2 dny

    Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness" is a verse from the Bible, James 3:1. The verse is a warning to teachers that they will be held to a higher standard and judged more strictly than others because they have greater accountability and influence over people's knowledge of God and Christian character. Teachers are also responsible for living by the truth they teach and not leading people away from God's Word.

  • @jamesellis2784
    @jamesellis2784 Před 3 dny

    Yavapia county development of addressing , 86303, Prescott, Shuts people out, from all support , No infrastructure , , high taxes , no economic security , programs,

  • @deeptid6297
    @deeptid6297 Před 5 dny

    Thank god I didnt waste any time listening to him. Never liked him in first place

  • @LeonCrooks-ww8bs
    @LeonCrooks-ww8bs Před 2 dny

    The real problem with these Mega Churches they have kicked out the Cross They have kicked out Jesus out of the Church

  • @Kevin-sp7wp
    @Kevin-sp7wp Před 5 dny

    He is shocked!!!!!

  • @GodBlessYou112
    @GodBlessYou112 Před 2 dny

    Mark 11:26
    But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.

  • @tomhanxs
    @tomhanxs Před 4 dny

    Devil can take forms in many many ways.. the one who appears so kind could just be one

  • @andeejager1753
    @andeejager1753 Před 6 dny +1

    Just praying for the victim and her family along with so many who are experiencing doubt, anger, betrayal and a deep sense of spiritual confusion
    May God keep everyone strong and faithful to Christ our Shepherd

  • @FanofDocumentaries
    @FanofDocumentaries Před 6 dny +1

    The elders will eat each other like Skeksis to get their new positions at the "church."

    • @MaraschinoMary1
      @MaraschinoMary1 Před 5 dny +1

      Yayyyy! Someone else post there who knows what the Skeksis are! I. Am. Emperor! Oh I just love you love you love you!

    • @FanofDocumentaries
      @FanofDocumentaries Před 5 dny

      ​@@MaraschinoMary1 🤣❤️ Hmmmmm!

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 Před 2 dny

      I doubt they eat each other

  • @bryanpetersen1334
    @bryanpetersen1334 Před 6 dny

    The dynasty lives on

  • @harrydoukas7680
    @harrydoukas7680 Před 6 dny

    Covering ??? Lord and deceive people

  • @LeonCrooks-ww8bs
    @LeonCrooks-ww8bs Před 2 dny

    The other problem Does Cindy see this as what money can I get if that is the case she is in sin
    Does Cindy have the character of Jesus Jesus looked down from the Cross and said Father give him for he knows not He did. Or Did Jesus command money Food for thought

  • @marilynbrown3488
    @marilynbrown3488 Před 5 dny

    He looks slimely😢,his wife,😮 Debbie and their son ,may think about asking for forgiveness,and mercy.

  • @user-vl3ob1gr4t
    @user-vl3ob1gr4t Před 6 dny +1

    This is all political.

    • @abeekuworldchanger380
      @abeekuworldchanger380 Před 6 dny +1

      There's nothing political about stuff coming out when a minister molested someone who was 12 years old.
      We gotta use more common sense than that..... This is an individual that was sexually assaulted at a young age. What's political is that those in the Church chose to protect a man, let alone him being the lead pastor telling the lady to keep it under wraps. This stuff has to come to the open. There's nothing political about someone sharing what they went through, especially when it traverses aspects of sexual abuse, and molesting someone.

    • @patdempsey8325
      @patdempsey8325 Před 5 dny

      Where did come from he was Trump’s puppet and Abbott’s ask him how much he got from the Covid money

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 Před 2 dny

      It sure is

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 Před 2 dny

      ​@@abeekuworldchanger380it's definitely political

  • @davidcruz8057
    @davidcruz8057 Před 4 dny +2

    Let’s not forget that it was Cindy’s dad that chose not to go to the authorities to have Robert arrested, but allow the pastor and the elders of the church judge the matter (1 Corinthians 6:1-2).
    Let’s also not forget that on October of 89, after the church’s pastor and elders had “judged” Robert, completed the restoration process and release him back into ministry, that now PASTOR Robert, for SEVEN months (something Cindy and her dad must’ve know) and his wife went to Cindy (now three months shy of her 20th birthday) and her dad’s home to ask for forgiveness. By ALL accounts Cindy and her dad forgave PASTOR Robert. Everything is possible, but it’s hard to believe that Cindy’s dad would grant Robert forgiveness if he was so much (according to Cindy) against him being back in ministry as a pastor. Of course he is now dead and has no say into Cindy’s allegations, now in 2024.
    So my question is, if she does not dispute that as an almost 20 year old “young lady” she and her dad forgave pastor Robert, what exactly, now at 54, is she after trying to crucify and destroy pastor Robert’s ministry and life because, supposedly, 16 years after “forgiving” him he would not give her fifty thousand dollars to help with the treatment for the damage that Robert supposedly inflicted on her?

  • @Annie261.
    @Annie261. Před 6 dny

    Can this “news reporter” get a dress that fits?

  • @rupertoruiz8652
    @rupertoruiz8652 Před 3 dny

    FIRST TIME I HEAR THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR FROM RELIGIOUS LEADERS, HAHAHAHAHA

  • @janicebooy1007
    @janicebooy1007 Před 5 dny

    Stop saying alleged.
    Other than that, good coverage

  • @user-ti9cp6mx7p
    @user-ti9cp6mx7p Před 4 dny

    Usual suspects.

  • @felixodogbo1830
    @felixodogbo1830 Před 4 dny +1

    I just read lots of condemnation and judgment on a man who recognised his mistake in the past, apologised and stepped out of ministry for two years. Came back powered by grace and God used him to raise a mega church that has been of great blessing to many globally. But, here we are casting stones at him. You are the only ones seeing him that way, not God. The Bible says that He keeps no record of wrongs. Take note, you can't be more righteous than God. I love you, Robert Morris.

    • @saintbees2088
      @saintbees2088 Před 4 dny

      "Every word men speak they will give account for in the day of judgement." Sounds like God remembers.

  • @user-vl3ob1gr4t
    @user-vl3ob1gr4t Před 4 dny

    Why is it always show her in that little gif dress let’s find out about er past .

  • @lilliamlopes9795
    @lilliamlopes9795 Před 4 dny

    All liars .

  • @wandabrooks2593
    @wandabrooks2593 Před 2 dny

    Gal. 6 v.1

  • @JamesRobertson-vh8iu
    @JamesRobertson-vh8iu Před 4 dny

    Church just keeps giving .lol

  • @FanofDocumentaries
    @FanofDocumentaries Před 6 dny +1

    What part of "above reproach" does this guy not understand!?

    • @miketrillo8067
      @miketrillo8067 Před 6 dny +1

      As well as "faithful to his wife, self controlled, respectable...not a recent convert" 1 Tim 3:1-7

  • @teresasmith4145
    @teresasmith4145 Před 6 dny +1

    Gateway to 🔥 many knew and said nothing 🔥Satan does his best work from many pulpits

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 Před 2 dny

      You KNOW this for a fact?

    • @teresasmith4145
      @teresasmith4145 Před 2 dny

      @@petefults5984 This is Satan's hour and he is working overtime and they are 🤭 I mean he he is paying big bucks🙆 Satan's four (4) hidden dynasties are : Political, Financial, Education and last but not 🗣️📢 least is RELIGION 💥 BOOM 💥 have you noticed 😇

  • @brendaflanagan6004
    @brendaflanagan6004 Před 5 dny +1

    Robert was delivered, people need to get a grip. Let he who has no sin cast the first stone.

    • @valeriehancock1724
      @valeriehancock1724 Před 5 dny +2

      Just imagine if he had done this to your 12 year old daughter? No, don’t imagine that 😢. There still should be consequences for this behaviour.

    • @iDelta77
      @iDelta77 Před 5 dny +1

      Why put his at a pedestal where he has access to children???

    • @terryarmstrong8598
      @terryarmstrong8598 Před 5 dny

      In June of 2024 Morris acknowledged in a statement to the Christian Post that he had engaged in "inappropriate sexual behavior with a young lady." Deceptive words. He chose to use those words.
      "I sexually abused a child." He chose not to use those words in June 2024.

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 Před 2 dny

      ​@@iDelta77no one put him on anything

  • @Encourager-Purpose-Destiny

    The sad part about this, he taught his members how to go after and abuse or violate women who didn't have strong father figures or were vulnerable when he told his story. So, he had to be lying when he said it was only one woman (a 12-year-old girl). It had to be more young women he violated or abused.

    • @livenfree
      @livenfree Před 3 dny

      What is your reasoning that it had to be more than one?

    • @Encourager-Purpose-Destiny
      @Encourager-Purpose-Destiny Před 3 dny

      @@livenfree He said in one of his sermons he had affairs.💡My suggestion to all Christians: Ask God to show you yourself and your heart. Allow God to work on you. Take your feelings, thoughts, words, and actions to God in prayer. Sift and process them through the Word of God. Let God Have The Final Say! "Judgment must begin at the house of God...the righteous shall scarcely be saved" (1 Peter 4: 17,18). Peter is telling us that the "Church" is going to be judged. And that the "Church" is in trouble.
      🙏God, I ask You in Jesus' name to show me myself. God I give You permission to work on me. Sift me through Your Word, change me, prefect me, and conform me into the image of Your son, Jesus Christ. God do the same for the writer of this prayer, all my family, and friends. Bless us with the love, desire, and strength to respect and honor You in our thoughts, words, and actions. Thank You Jesus. Amen, so be it by faith.

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 Před 2 dny

      That's so wrong!! He did not teach his members how to abuse anyone. Why are you wanting to cause so much division

  • @WandaMunson
    @WandaMunson Před 6 dny +2

    Satan s way to destroy him .She is after money. I believe him God has brought him a long way. Does she even know God.No amount of money can buy respect.

    • @iDelta77
      @iDelta77 Před 5 dny

      Who is the "she" after money? She asked for 50,000 dollar to pay back what she shelled out for years of therapy. Morris is worth over 100 million dollars. The abuse happened for the span of 4 years. Get your facts right!!

    • @patdempsey8325
      @patdempsey8325 Před 5 dny

      He’s at fake as they come keep going to his church the devils house

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 Před 2 dny

      Well she did sneak into his room for over 4 years.

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 Před 2 dny

      ​@@patdempsey8325proof?

  • @billwilkerson2415
    @billwilkerson2415 Před 3 dny +1

    Why did she wait so many years too accuse this man ?

    • @TwoTrees777
      @TwoTrees777 Před 2 dny +1

      shes has been talking but it didnt gain the attention it needed until now God's timing is not our timing

    • @Howiefaam31459
      @Howiefaam31459 Před 2 dny +1

      I like the passive way you blame the victim 😢

    • @TwoTrees777
      @TwoTrees777 Před 2 dny

      ​@Howiefaam31459 exactly 💯 people are just rotten

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 Před 2 dny

      Her parents told Robert not to make it public.

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 Před 2 dny

      ​@@Howiefaam31459she asked a question. She didn't accuse!! Good grief!