Asta is emotionally smart, it’s why he helps so many people like noelle. He’s also a smart fighter, and frankly politically intelligent. He understands his place in the messed up cast system and seaks to change that
Asta has more often than not shown genuine care when it came to the black bulls everyday problems: Gauche's sister complex Vanessa's slacking off Charmy's glutton Ect. Asta wants to be wizard king to eradicate classissim
@@aaveey Nah, Luffy doesn't understand the context of most situations he's in. He fell asleep during Fishman Island when listening to Jinbe's explanation of what was going there. He has a decent battle IQ, though.
Asta would admit that he wasn't the brightest man out there and he could miss things at times when they weren't obvious. This all plays into the class separation of his society. People in the poorest realms don't even know who the wizard king is let alone that there're 3 royal families representative of the kingdom. This is why Asta never understood why people made such a fuss about Noelle not being able to control her magic. He doesn't judge people by their magic. He doesn't need labels, secrets or prejudices. Deku was accepted on one of the most praised hero academies in the country. He would need to graduate and then join an agency. Until even being considered a rookie he'd have to solve the most to be even considered into the billboard charts. Deku is still 15-16 Eversince his first mission with Noelle and Magna, Asta has been collecting stars like crazy. To a point where he and Yuno are the only notable contenders for wizard king. Asta is already 18
And i think is good to remember that when Asta was fighting against Gauche and Marie (possesed by the elves) Asta came up with a great strategy. He knew, he couldn't look at Marie's Eyes Magic in Gauche's Mirror Magic so he literally closed his eyes mid battle and just uses the ki to track Gauche and Marie presence to land a hit on them.
Asta himself said that he's learned the fighting techniques of those he fought with and against. He may not be book smart, but the way he can immediately pick up on certain details when in a fight and understand how his teams' abilities work is underrated.
This is why I've always said that asta can be extremely smart if he actually went to a good school when he was a kid cuz his speed on understanding things is extremely fast
Asta and Goku both were able to use an attack that they saw only once on the first try too. Although with Asta, he already was using Ki for like about a year or two, so it was almost like second nature to him while Goku was considered a prodigy. Even then, doesn't take away the fact that both are more skilled and smart than people give them credit for.
“One can be smart, but smarts matter very little in a land of those with experience.” I believe this to be the case since Deku maybe smart himself, he absolutely dose not have the experience or emotional strength to stack up against someone like Asta. Asta over the 3 years of being a magic knight had learned a lot from people of different backgrounds, fighting styles, life styles, and more. During this time, Asta matured and grew smarter in other ways. At times his emotions got the better of him but he learned to control them. Deku has not. He is still a 1st year student (somehow) despite everything that has happened, Deku has made plenty of stupid decisions that could’ve royally screwed him over. If there was a proper no holds fight between Deku and Asta, Deku’s gonna get folded because of the lack of power, speed, and proper battle intelligence. So aside from comparing the two, i really think Death Battle put a bad opinion in the Black Clover fandom.
The tldr; Asta isn't stupid, he's uneducated Actually teach him something and he'll catch on real quick, but being a peasant he hasn't had many opportunities to be taught prior to the series
many people always ignore asta biq because say he dumb because he didn't know every country or laws and many say deku beat asta in biq is better because he can anaylze his oponents but it took him time and need to learn his enemies move and tactics while asta can copy and mimic his oponent fighting styles like combing dance moves magic attack ki ketten in a short amount of time and able to keep up characters who are much more battle iq like the elves who are kinda one thousand years
@@zk-vd6uy deku i need to be careful using ofa without hurting myself few chapters later gran torino is telling me to instead of using one part i let it flow in my body to reduced damage myself few chapters deku i can't use ofa withy arms in full power or i never use my arms again ....... wait i had legs meanwhile asta yami ki is a force in my hometown help you sense anything around you feel their emotions and it took me years to master it kiato i had been training my fighting style with dance moves for my youth asta alright bet
Deku has bad battle IQ Lemme go through his fights to show how much he's used his brain 1. Sludge monster: through his bag and risked his life, dumbest thing he's ever done he would have died if not for All might. 2. UA enterance exam: He punched a big robot and broke his legs and arms, all might should have given Deku his powers sooner so he could've trained with it. Would've died if not for recovery girl. Dumb 3. Deku vs Bakugo: Deku grabbed Bakugos arm and slammed him Smart. Then he did collateral damage. His smartest fight thus far. But still Dumb. 4. Deku vs the League of Villains: He made a whirlpool and trapped people with Mineta. Pretty Smart thinking good on Deku. But then he tried to punch Shigaraki while a Nomu was around. Would've died if not for All might. Dumb 5. Sports festival: He gathered up landmines with a piece of metal and then blew it up to win the race. This is stupid, if not for plot armour and anime logic he would've died. Dumb 6. Cavalry Battle: not much strategy here. Meh 7. Deku vs Shinso: got emotional and talked. Would've lost if not for OFA dumb. 8. Deku vs Shoto, Smart battle play using his fingers, but he broke his body for life, Dumb 9. Deku vs Gran Torino: he used his surroundings to activate full cowling, Smart. 10. Deku vs Stain: Deku just punched Stain he didn't do much. He figured out how stains quirk worked but that didn't help. Meh 11. Deku and Bakugo vs All Might: Deku strategy was literally hit him really hard. He took advantage of All Mights time limit to win this fight. Pure luck, Dumb. 12. Deku vs Muscular: He literally won by Punching Really Really hard, not a lick of strategy, broke his body again, and that lead to Bakugo getting kidnapped, he should've run away he was fast enough for that. Dumb 13. Provisional Licence exam: Deku Kicked really hard and ran away, Smart 14. Deku vs disguised Toga, he lost a point because she was most agile and got pinned down. Dumb 15. Deku, Uraraka and Tape dude against people: so Deku was a distraction and Uraraka and tape dude captured people. It's a decent plan, not super creative or Smart. But I'll give Deku some credit. 16. Deku vs Bakugo 2: He just punches and kicks. No strategy. Meh 17. 1A vs Mirio: Deku uses his brain to sniff out Mirios quirk, and loses. Meh 18. Deku vs Overhaul, he uses pretty decent fight skills to almost beat Overhaul, Smart, no strategy tho. Then Eri jumps on his back and Deku wins by punching really really hard. Dumb 19. Deku vs Gentle Criminal: Dekus Smartest and best fight of the entire series. Deku is a battle genius in this fight. Duke fights a street level criminal with a weird power but Deku manages to win using strategy. Let's break this down Deku learns of Gentles plan and confronts him, he did some research and acts immediately he's strong enough to take him, smart. Gentle Criminal shows off his power and Deku is shocked but recovers and presues him, good. Deku shows off his new air force tech that he conveniently had on. Uses it to hit gentle. Gentle goes to a construction location to throw off Deku. Gentle uses his powers and environment to beat deku, and eventually drops and beam on him trapping him. Gentle runs away to the forest but Deku follows and uses Gentles powers against him to lock him down, genius, best IQ moment in the entire series for Deku. Gentle then gets a power of love boost but Deku manages to beat him in the end. Good. Greatest fight 5 smart points if there were more of this Deku would be a mega genius but it gets worse from here. 20. Deku vs Suneater: he hesitates to hit him and loses. Dumb 21. Class 1A vs 1B: Deku loses control of Black whip. Dumb but not his fault. He beats Shinso because Shinso is a worse fighter. Meh 22. Deku vs Shigaraki: Deku uses Black Whip and Float to capture Shigaraki and keep him off the ground to stop his destruction. Pretty smart. He also destorys his body again in the process. Dumb. 23. Deku vs Muscular 2: Deku ties him up and punches him really really hard. That's it. Meh 24. Deku vs Lady Nagant: finally some strategy. Lady Nagant shoots at Deku using her sniper arm. Deku has to figure out her Quirk and locate her. Deku uses Smoke screen (Which he only got for this one battle, like seriously this is his worse quirk wtf?) Overhaul is suicidal so Deku saves him by using his more useful quirk, and eventually locates Lady Nagant and wins. He used his brain again very Smart Deku. 25. Deku vs Class 1A: he just overwhelmes them with his superior power and runs away, eventually losing because he's tired. Ima count this as dumb because he forgot to eat. So over all Smart: 8 + (5 gentle criminal) Meh: 6 Dumb: 14 So Deku is Dumber more than he is smart.
Tbf, Noelle was given the benefit of knowledge of the Heart Kingsom, as Fraudgoleon is unaware of Saint stage. That is the only excuse I'll give him. Even Mereleona got strong enough to take on an ancient demon, and here fraudgoleon is, staying lame.
@@jadenmurray1325 So had he accompanied asta on the journey to the Heart Kingdom, maybe he could have unlocked Saint Sage. But now I don't think he would be able to do that...
Deathbattle did Asta dirty and a lot of people really underestimate Asta. He’s been shown to learn and pick up techniques insanely fast. Just look at how quick it took for him to understand how to sense Ki and utilize his Black Asta form. Hell he even picks up other people’s fighting styles relatively quickly after fighting them.
I don't see the problem Luffy and Goku are dumb they have great battle IQ it's basically the trope dumb character but when it comes to fights they're smart.
Asta was always a genius it is just that his personality makes him look stupid. proof He was able to utilize a type of power mostly by himself in most of the show despite being in a world called mana not an anti-mana world His process ability is insane without even having mana or ki back when he was fighting Magna He has shown to be quite adaptable no matter what the situation is like He was able to utilize a devil's power beyond 100% without forcing the devil to lend his power to him casually and was successful in completely syncing with the devil. He grabbed things very quick and was able to understand ki at a lower level and a high level too. Asta is emotionally smart, it’s why he helps so many people like Noelle. He’s also a smart fighter, and frankly politically intelligent. He understands his place in the messed up cast system and seeks to change that. He was able to become a swordmaster at a young age Able to utilize a large amount of power with ease What I can say is if Asta was born as royal or a noble with tremendous mana his growth rate would be much quicker than the average mage since he will easily manipulate mana because manipulating ki is much harder and unlocks mana much quicker and grown much quicker from there.
If Asta had proper education coupled with all his current skills as a swordsman. he would be way more respected. Wht do u think about Asta getting a second grimoire or maybe a scroll?
@@Zen_Sensai If Asta got another grimoire or a a scroll he may be able to unlock his own true innate magic type he pose to have originally, if he dose unlock another grimoire or a scroll what is his own true magic type he new type might be corrupted with the devil power and now be called anti-magic something.
@@Daniel-Adanri Yes...But what if anti magic is a part of a bigger magic tht he would discover with his new grimoire or scroll. But what u said makes sense too coz his anti magic might be the corrupted form of his original magic
If asta was capable of using magic instead of anti magic he would be wizard king level in 1-2 years even would be considered better prodigy than yuno to think he can learn thing in second is too op
Don't forget that someone who shouldn't be high in Battle IQ was able to make a plan to take down Dante (a fraud) by linking up with his teacher who had at least a decade of experience over him, with more control over his Mana, access to Mana Zone, and Ki Control, while fatigued and hemorrhaging blood. He was SLOWER than both fighters, but moved in such a way that he could perfectly unite attacks with his Captain. I just want to put that out there, that he was so good at fighting that he could accommodate being crippled and naturally slower with Metavision-levels of prediction.
"Asta dumb" Asta in the same time learning how to use ki in 1 min, using ki on himself and learning new ability in 1 min, learning how to use secret potential of his sword alongside with Yuno in 1 min, copying battle meditation before battle with vetto in 1 min, understand that if he cant use magic he start build his body Yeah, he is definitely dumb
There is also battle experience Asta ha been a magic knight for i think 3 years he had been training and going on missions when he was 15 years old that is what black clover does well is the passage of time
Can you please make a video on the ladies of black clover vs the ladies of bnha? I love that asta had to grow with his power as the series goes on unlike Deku who has OFA being super powerful already with only the extra quirks needing to be shown but that’s it. 7:40 Oh you already said it, my bad. XD Instead you could do an analysis video on both characters and not on powers and abilities. 10:41 honestly the only ability asta needs to try master in how the purposely get into someone’s subconscious with the demon destroyer, something he’s only done twice and accidentally. This may also be the key to separately saving Julius and killing Lucius by the end of the story.
Another moment I don't see brought up as much and was early in the series, was when Asta was fighting Rades and used his swords to slash himself to get rid of the curse spots on his body.
That's literally what he did for the first season and it took him until like season 2 or 3 to realize he could balance the power out by spreading it out more instead of focusing on part of his body to transfer all that power into.
@@phantom-X2086Like gran torino and all might himself said in the early seasons he's too obsessed with being all might the notes in his books all of the contents was used by him on how to copy all might making "I can use my legs moment" one of the greatest development of deku. Btw im a huge black clover fan
It's because nobody besides Yamin can sense him. But just because it's a one sided advantage, doesn't mean you shouldn't take advantage of it. Deku has never been shown to use ambush tactics or gorilla warfare, which Asta has. Deku has these fights where he clutches it somehow, while Asta and his teammates come up with reliable, coordinated efforts to take on forces bigger than themselves. The best fights for this are Vetto and saving Mereleona.
"So smart he'd find a way to win" Nah bruh battle IQ will only take you so far against a physically stronger and faster opponent. Deku isn't Izen he'd probably run away if he was just "so much smarter then Asta"
A lot of people doesn't mention this, but Asta managed to understand how ki works pretty quickly, and was implied by the show to be quite the prodigy when it comes to anything related to ki. During the fight in the cave agains Licht (Patry), he was able to use ki sensing when Yami just introduced it to him moments ago in the heat of battle. Yami even remarked how creepy it was that he learnt it so quickly. During the Land of the Sun arc, he also learned and mastered zetten pretty quickly as well. In short, Asta is actually not that dumb at all.
Not only that, but when the 3rd eyes of TMS vs the captains, Asta took advantage of the cloud, mist, and ki to ambush licht. That wasn't just using ki effectively, that was pure battle IQ.
Asta learned to get along in life and more about people. Deku was just in school/missions or at home. Even though they started at the same age Asta saw more of the world than Deku who always remained within Japan. Deku is also still 15-16 while Asta is already 18
I am glad you made this video to show Asta is a great character in his own way. After all some people are good at somethings while others can be bad at but that's what it means to be human.
Asta's fighting style relies more on his unpredictable nature, as well as the analytical skills he is shown to possess, during a fight ⚔. These analytical skills are also enhanced by his mastery of "Ki", which allows him to analyze his opponents through their breathing, emotions or even their mere presence. Also, the thirteen-plus years of training he endured, along with his constant exposure to life-or-death situations. Makes him a very skilled warrior in battle, with the ability to defeat individuals with more experience in battle than even himself. However, as far as all other parts of his IQ are concerned, he is still absolutely nothing smarter than people like Goku, Luffy, or even Naruto 😒.
Also, regarding your claims about Deku and his IQ in battle 🧠. You are not wrong, but you are not right here either 🤔. To begin with. The idea that it would have been better for Deku to have used kicks from the very beginning doesn't make a lot of sense 🦵. Since he also broke his legs when he used 100% One For All during the U.A. Entrance Exam 😒. And even after mastering the Full Cowl technique, he still needed support equipment to be able to use One For All at percentages higher than 8%. As for the whole thing with Shinso, and his ability to brainwash his opponents 🧟. Although Ojiro had warned him not to respond to Shinso's verbal challenges, he still didn't know exactly how Shinso's Quirk worked. Not knowing if the effect of Shinso's Quirk would be based on mere verbal responses. Or if there would have been other conditions regarding its activation. Besides, if you were to put Asta against Shinso, with him barely knowing anything about him. Given Asta's dynamic personality, it's unlikely that the result would have been any different than Deku's 🧟♂. Deku's fighting style is more based on the analysis he makes of his opponents during a fight. As well as the well-thought-out calculations he comes up with, in order to be able to predict their next move 🤓. However, as has been shown many times in his case, the fact that he tends to overanalyze almost everything around him is exactly why he sometimes ends up tripping over his own feet. Deku's much more developed intelligence, being the thing that hinders him the most when it comes to a fight.
Honestly I was never a fan of Deku because of how common sense could have solved a lot of his problems, but I guess it’s not completely his fault since a lot of characters in MHA lacked common sense. Also the whole “I’m going to become a hero with my effort, and hard work.” Just for him to just take notes, and do no training when the cocky, and arrogant childhood friend knew he needed to. Along with stain showing us some of the potential of what Deku could have achieved if he trained.
@@Br0ku that’s fine, I like MHA just not Deku, I just feel like the series couldn’t figure out away around the simple fact that if Deku used common sense, a lot of the problems would be a easy fix.
When you compare this to Asta, Deku is someone who just put in effort when he was offered OFA by All Might. He was just sitting on his computer and let people talk him down. There's no point in refusing any physical activity. When you enter the army you pretty much have to be in the best shape to be accepted. In all honesty I thought that the Stain plot point is where the direction the series is going after season 2. Where society becomes a place where Deku just has to be a vigilante. You can't go out of your way to save people if you have to consider the institution. That's why superman was always instructed to capture Batman. Because he's an outlaw
@adrianjones6103 Yep, personally what I would have liked to have seen with deku given his early observation and intelligence, would have been for before OFA was given to him, have him be developing to be like batman. Not the wealth aspect per say, but have him using tech and intelligence and strategy to compensate for being quirkless. It would have made him way more compelling of a character.
Asta is a battle genius. But I fear for him when he becomes wizard king and needs to do book smart paper work. Cause I don’t see him ditching it like Julius but I don’t picture him succeeding in doing it😓
@@Greenyt1234 I really hope he gets a good one, because usually an assistant position like that is foreshadowed but no one currently comes to mind to who would be asta’s assistant
@@Zen_Sensai I don’t know why but I always felt like would retire before asta becomes wizard king. Like how many wizard kings is one man allowed to do the paper work for? My assumption was Marx became the wizard king’s assistant when Julius became wizard king and was going to leave after his duty to Julius. Though it was just an assumption, and he is still there, so maybe
i agree on everithing you said apart for 1 thing about asta, meanwhile i have to hardly disagree on like 90% of what you said about deku. for asta yeah he grew up in an orphanage but he still has a very more simplistic view of the world and how things works than yuno wich was also grew up there and even the kid with fire powers seemed to not be on asta level of thinking, yes asta is a very smat fighter but its true he isnt the brightest in everyday situation. about deku meanwhile its true that he is very emotional wich also is a problem that himself consider especially against shiggi but i disagree with the rest, his energi control as nothing that he could really figure out alone, he take the example of allmight wich was a prodigy with it and could use instantly the 100% so he didnt really know he could use the power divided by his body or he could use less power in percentage because lets be clear all might isnt that good of a teacher about ofa and gran torino didnt really know better, about he shinso fight its just that his emotions were too much for him and deku cant shut up XD, about the kicks yes its something he coulp think about it before but its not that he didnt think about it because he is stupid but its really a mental block, he was so blind following all might path that he didnt really think of the other ways, in fact after everithing we see the real peak of deku iq during season6 where he learn how to use 6 other quirks in tandem in weeks and he display crazy biq feat both against nagant and muscular, sorry for the long comment and love to you for the content.
I respectfully disagree, but lemme word my opinion. So Deku is battle dumb. Like I made a comment going through all his fights for fun and dang he uses his brain for like 3 fights. By use his brain I mean does things that a normal person wouldn't think. Deku slamming Bakugo in their first fight is shown as a big IQ play for some reason, and an average person can do that. Where's the smart? But I'll praise Deku vs Gentle criminal all day long that's Dekus best fight in the series. He is a genius there. That fight makes Deku look brain dead in all his other fights. And he pretty much is. Deku just hits really really hard for most of his fights. Deku vs Muscular or deku vs todaroki all his strategy is hit them really hard and break his body. He doesn't use peoples quirks against them or take advantage of his superior skills. He does that in the Gentle Criminal fight which is why its top tier and he also does it in the Lady Nagant fight too. Those fights are his best but the rest. No strategy, punch really hard that's about it. People think deku is a genius because he has high grades and writes in his book alot. But that doesn't translate to the battle. Like don't take my word for it Go through his fights they're listed on the wiki And just write down Dekus strategy for each fight and how effective it was. He does like nothing for most of it. Like episode 2 he runs at the sludge monster throws his bag and starts trying to dig at the sludge monster. That's dumb. He's an idiot. He didn't think and they state that. The bag throw did nothing, Bakugos quirk was going wild and Deku would've died if All Might wasn't there. All might is dumb too. He just watched a dude risk his life and everyone elses and he thought yeah this is the guy to give the best quirk to. A guy who doesn't think, has no skill and endangers himself and others. Wtf? XD
@@GMYSTERYICTNF i have to disagree respectfully too. In some case its partially true but it lacks context. While we can agree that gentle and nagant are his best fight they arent the only good iq fights, against muscular the first time there was nothing really he could do to win because muscular was stronger and didnt harm himself like deku so he simply bulldoz trough the laiers of muscles as well as he could, in fact the second time that he was more relative he stayed on the distance against him and used the point where the tremor guy hit knowing how muscle works to finish it fast. Against todoroki he tried to catch him lacking witouth make him realize that he was almost out of bond to make him fall and later he simply trued to help him psychologically more than win. Against bakugo it was more a display of his reflex and hands more than iq until the last moment wich was indeed a big brain move because he used the emotions of bakugo to make him go to himself so he leaved the base where uraraka could use the homerun against lida always created thanks to deku aiming to the roof.on top of that how he copied aizawa scarf to try to block bakugo weapon, his hands. Against the sludge villain yesh deku was arupid but that was a kid witouth power wich simply seen his friend dying and he tryed to save him, he was stupid? Absolutely but all might didnt give him his quirk because he tried to fight a villain witouth a quirk but because he put his life on danger to try to save even 1 person. On top of that dont forget the time when he used the landmine to win the race, where he used uraraka and dark shadow in a optimal way to escape, where he used tsuyu and mineta to block all the villains and more. Deku is a beast in iq its just that majority of his real battles againsy people that tryes to kill him are too much for everyone and himself, so there times when he has to bulldoze his way, deku doesnt have a constant gallery of iq display because he doesnt have a constant growth, compared to asta deku fighted the final villain on season 1. Sorry to say this buddy but you should analize better those fights.
Asta is smarter than deku when come to battle iq three proff in my opinion 1. Fought stronger opponents than deku because we all konw that some villain in the black clover verce can solo mha verse like Lucifero the twin devils and so on and so for 2. Asta is 18 years old in final chapters of the manga and deku is still 16 years old asta going mission to mission since he in a magic knight of the clover kingdom and deku is still a hero in training and has less experience in battle 3.He remembers skills and techniques that he learned and he can use in combat example when the twin devils shoot of ice and fire he remember when he use the demon slayer a baseball bat against magna fire balls he remember it and use it in that battle And that asta has better battle iq that deku asta is scale higher than deku so there no way he can beat by someone that scale lower than him by just intelligent alone you the strength speed and etc to defeat him
the only way Deku is smarter than Asta, is when you give them both two stat sheets of different fighters from the same vers. Deku will figure out who is stronger faster than Asta.
I agree that deku's admiration of all might and his emotions fucks with his intelligence. Shoot style and full cowling, plus his first fight with shinso proves this
Its just like real life. We see stories of the poor kid who came from nothing get all A's in school. Vs the average student who is failing. Asta is determined. He didn't come from much so he takes advantage of whatever he gets, because he knows he has to catch up.
Quick question: i personally got to the lucifero fight, are demons from the 2nd gate automatically stronger than the 1st gate ones? Like are low ranking devils from the first gate weaker than low rankers from the 2nd? I dont think they made it very clear
A VERY Late Time to comment. But why are people like this. I have thought of Asta as a MC that a dumbbutt but a PURE GENIUS when it comes to fighting like Naruto, Luffy, Natsu so why is people acting like Asta is different.
Like gran torino and all might himself said in the early seasons he's too obsessed with being all might the notes in his books all of the contents was used by him on how to copy all might making "I can use my legs moment" one of the greatest development of deku. Btw im a huge black clover fan
Soo was I the only one that saw how similar Asta is to Goku Both just saw techniques that takes years to master and learned them just like that They also copy a lot of the other techniques that they see with friends Goku with roshi,killin and Tien And Asta from Yami,Fonzell and kiato When he was explaining all that was in my head was "wait a minute that's just Goku"😂
I actually would’ve said something about this to the moment and gave it back. Because of Yuki Tibada’s inspiration coming from dragon ball, much of the lessons that are in Dragon Ball can actually be seen in black clover as well.
11:12 Note that in this scene, Asta shows how high his battle IQ is, he's fighting a demon, who controls three of his swords, who stole him an arm, and can't cancel his magic with his sword, and yet, he managed to defeat him, and he even shown all the skills he learned from other swordsmen, the best part is that he just trained with only two of them, and yet, he mastered every swordmanship he saw very quickly, and added them to his fighting style to become even more skilled
You know what I find a bit odd? People say Asta is dumb when comparing him to others, but no one ever says the same about Yuno. He might be a lot less loud than Asta is, but Yuno was raised in the same circumstances, therefore he had no better of an formal education. Now sure, he may have been hailed as a prodigy, but that doesn't automatically mean he's smarter with how he uses his magic, just that it's very strong.
Interesting way to think about it. People often overlook that but Yuno is technically the guy who over time gets amazing control over his powers. But in terms of technique, Asta is better coz he comes up with practically out-of-the-box ways that even Yuno can think of at times. Power-wise they are very close to each other as both usually get their power-ups almost at the same time.....Plus the fact that Yuno has like grt mana is kinda what people use to make him look great compared to Asta
Yuno overtime practiced with his magic, so in battle hes techniques are superior. Yuno isn't Asta he took the advantage over him by working on what he didn't have, magic. Yuno trained just as long as Asta. Asta didn't have the privilege of being able to train with his powers, like he had no teachers and you can punch a thousand times but without proper form the strength means nothing. Like look at Zetten. Asta had the skills and the moment he learnt the technique his power got better. So thats my thoughts as to why Yuno seems smarter in battle. He just had more practice. If Asta had magic him and Yuno might be equal skilled in battle.
Asta is a literal genius. He learned ki during a life or death crash course lesson from Yami, even calling him a freak when he got it on his second try. And mastered zetten in like 3 days which most people can't even learn in a lifetime of training.
also imagine he could copy other energy base attack in other verse a possible power like haki kamehameha other dragonball attacks maybe hado ( forgot the name of the power sorry bleach fans)
Asta is offensively stupid. Every breath he takes is a deliberate offense. He is every "stupid teenager makes a stupid decision to advance the plot" multiplied by a thousand. His battle cunning can't make up for even a tenth of a percent of his rage-inducing stupidity. Even when Nero and the antagonist both explain to him that the truth doesn't matter in the court, he still keeps digging himself into a hole. His very existence beyond episode 1 is a deliberate offense by the writer.
This is unrelated to the video but I had three questions, they all pertain to Yami vs Gojo (something my friend brought up to me): Could “Dimension Slash” bypass Infinity? Could “Death Thrust” bypass infinity? And could Yamis Mana Zone, Black Moon negate CT and possibly Infinite Void?
Dimension Slash 100% would. Death Thrust is a lot more debateble, I might lean to no. Black moon would negate CT (maybe not purple) but I do think it would protect him against UV.
5:04 only L of the video. Nah saying that it's just an excuse is just wrong. Like you mentioned, Deku's BIQ comes from being quirkless and his analysis. It's not just "idolising All Might" he took inspiration fron various heroes. His fighting style still has influence from Gran Tarino and Bakugo. It wasn’t just "learning to kick". That's a massive oversimplification. It was adding his own twist to the influences he had taken. Claiming that the defense for it is just an excuse while also claiming cognative dissonance is massive hypocrisy on your part.
I’m saying that’s the defense MHA fans use, that he was idolizing All Might. I know that Deku uses more than just All Might as inspiration. You didn’t provide anything that shows I was being hypocritical? No matter how much you put glitter on Deku’s learning to kick, it’s not anything crazy, at all. One of the major themes of the video is how Asta’s BIQ is downplayed while other characters get wanked. No matter how you put it, Deku being blinded by following in All Might’s footsteps and that leading to him taking awhile to adapt his fighting style with something as basic as kicks is a knock on him. It’s nothing to discredit Deku, only to clarify the playing field we are actually working with.
@@Br0ku because you're just claiming it to be cognative dissonance while simplifying things so much that it makes it seem like poor battle IQ when it isn't. Deku didn't "learn to kick." There's no glitter over it. You are simply oversimplifying things. Deku has used kicks before in fights. It's developing his own fighting style and replacing the use of punches. You're objectively oversimplifying that and it's a poor example of your argument. Yeah it's fair trying to show how Asta is downplayed while others get wanked, but you're just doing the same thing to Deku here, equally unfairly, thus, hypocrisy. The other 2 examples were fine to make that point (although I feel you were missing some context when claiming that Deku has poor understanding of his system. Quirks are varied and don't come with energy. It's more of a lack of understanding of his own quirk which is fair since he never had one.)
@@kanemccarthy1979 I just told you that I wasn’t using it to say that Deku had poor battle IQ, yet you are saying that I’m doing that. I’m not over simplifying it. Deku was hindering his own fighting style because of his fanboyism. Thats an anti-feat to his battle IQ. I’ve stated both in video and in comments that Deku has good battle IQ so stop saying that. Just because I oversimplified it doesn’t mean I’m wrong. The video is about Asta, I’m not going to sugarcoat context where things are not needed for Deku. If my video were all about Deku having poor battle IQ, you’d have a point, because obviously context shows he has good battle IQ. Just because the full context of an anti-feat makes it more forgivable, doesn’t excuse that it’s an anti-feat.
@@Br0ku poor wording on my part but the point is the same. You're downplaying Deku by doing that. And again, you continue to misrepresent it when you're just wrong on that point. Deku wasn't blinded by fanboyism. You state as a point in favour of his BIQ that due to his quirklessness he analyses other heroes first before considering his own strength. This is actually a point in favour of his BIQ by further adding to his own strengths in spite of what he's used to. Bottom line you are misrepresenting Deku there and it's hypocritical to unfairly downplay him in a video about how Asta is unfairly downplayed, no matter how you slice it.
I'm not unfairly downplaying him. Deku says that he was hard-focusing on his fists because that's how All Might fought. Deku: "It's so simple I never even realized..." after first using Shoot Style. Deku himself recognizes that its simple. @@kanemccarthy1979
I feel like he’s tryna convince himself more than us. BC is boring asf wow a generic timid story one dimensional main character forced anime tropes and Yami is the coolest but not the best character I don’t even know who that would be but it sucks.
If people, REALLY say, that Asta, has DUMB Battle IQ, they have NO IDEA, of how many times he has actually surpassed the skill lvl the opponents THOUGHT he had. Is he the smartest character in Shonen? Not by a long shot 😅. But, the fact that he has ROUTINELY, won against a seemingly, insurmountable foe, is undeniable, and it shows that HE CAN GROW. He can IMPROVE.
Asta is emotionally smart, it’s why he helps so many people like noelle. He’s also a smart fighter, and frankly politically intelligent. He understands his place in the messed up cast system and seaks to change that
Like luffy
Asta has more often than not shown genuine care when it came to the black bulls everyday problems:
Gauche's sister complex
Vanessa's slacking off
Charmy's glutton
Ect.
Asta wants to be wizard king to eradicate classissim
@@aaveey Nah, Luffy doesn't understand the context of most situations he's in. He fell asleep during Fishman Island when listening to Jinbe's explanation of what was going there. He has a decent battle IQ, though.
Asta would admit that he wasn't the brightest man out there and he could miss things at times when they weren't obvious.
This all plays into the class separation of his society. People in the poorest realms don't even know who the wizard king is let alone that there're 3 royal families representative of the kingdom.
This is why Asta never understood why people made such a fuss about Noelle not being able to control her magic. He doesn't judge people by their magic. He doesn't need labels, secrets or prejudices.
Deku was accepted on one of the most praised hero academies in the country. He would need to graduate and then join an agency. Until even being considered a rookie he'd have to solve the most to be even considered into the billboard charts. Deku is still 15-16
Eversince his first mission with Noelle and Magna, Asta has been collecting stars like crazy. To a point where he and Yuno are the only notable contenders for wizard king. Asta is already 18
And i think is good to remember that when Asta was fighting against Gauche and Marie (possesed by the elves) Asta came up with a great strategy.
He knew, he couldn't look at Marie's Eyes Magic in Gauche's Mirror Magic so he literally closed his eyes mid battle and just uses the ki to track Gauche and Marie presence to land a hit on them.
Asta himself said that he's learned the fighting techniques of those he fought with and against. He may not be book smart, but the way he can immediately pick up on certain details when in a fight and understand how his teams' abilities work is underrated.
This I believe is supported further by the first Novel of Black Clover where he met the swordsman to help him train ahead of time
So true...He picks up skills like at a rate most mages won't be able to...
Case and point, ki. Yami casually mentioned it to asa in his 'fight' against light and asta got the basics down after like 3 tries
@@mrfancyshmancy Ikr..He is a really fast learner
This is why I've always said that asta can be extremely smart if he actually went to a good school when he was a kid cuz his speed on understanding things is extremely fast
Crazy thing is that Asta *LITERALLY* said he studies to surpasses those with talent . Bro is book and battle smart
Asta is smart in the Goku way, heck he is probably more skilled then Goku was at his age too
Asta and Goku both were able to use an attack that they saw only once on the first try too. Although with Asta, he already was using Ki for like about a year or two, so it was almost like second nature to him while Goku was considered a prodigy. Even then, doesn't take away the fact that both are more skilled and smart than people give them credit for.
“One can be smart, but smarts matter very little in a land of those with experience.”
I believe this to be the case since Deku maybe smart himself, he absolutely dose not have the experience or emotional strength to stack up against someone like Asta.
Asta over the 3 years of being a magic knight had learned a lot from people of different backgrounds, fighting styles, life styles, and more. During this time, Asta matured and grew smarter in other ways. At times his emotions got the better of him but he learned to control them. Deku has not. He is still a 1st year student (somehow) despite everything that has happened, Deku has made plenty of stupid decisions that could’ve royally screwed him over.
If there was a proper no holds fight between Deku and Asta, Deku’s gonna get folded because of the lack of power, speed, and proper battle intelligence. So aside from comparing the two, i really think Death Battle put a bad opinion in the Black Clover fandom.
Thank God, I thought I was the only one who knew about Asta's feats. More people need to see this
He's so underrated.
What ep is 9:34
@@JaireGordon I think it’s an OP or it’s the episode when Asta encounters Undine
@@JaireGordon ep 128
@@Br0kuCan we Agree Asta is Smarter Than Zoro
18:20 Asta was like: Double it and give it to the next person💀
The tldr; Asta isn't stupid, he's uneducated
Actually teach him something and he'll catch on real quick, but being a peasant he hasn't had many opportunities to be taught prior to the series
many people always ignore asta biq because say he dumb because he didn't know every country or laws and many say deku beat asta in biq is better because he can anaylze his oponents but it took him time and need to learn his enemies move and tactics while asta can copy and mimic his oponent fighting styles like combing dance moves magic attack ki ketten in a short amount of time and able to keep up characters who are much more battle iq like the elves who are kinda one thousand years
The society he lives in purposely wants to keep people from the forsaken realm untaught. So they can never bother themselves with them
He's monster in biq deku may analyze his opponent but asta is him(i take it literal)
@@zk-vd6uy deku i need to be careful using ofa without hurting myself
few chapters later
gran torino is telling me to instead of using one part i let it flow in my body to reduced damage myself
few chapters
deku i can't use ofa withy arms in full power or i never use my arms again ....... wait i had legs
meanwhile asta
yami ki is a force in my hometown help you sense anything around you feel their emotions and it took me years to master it
kiato i had been training my fighting style with dance moves for my youth
asta alright bet
@@cronus555 asta is him🗿
I really wish more people could see your videos, they would liberate the anime community
Deku has bad battle IQ
Lemme go through his fights to show how much he's used his brain
1. Sludge monster: through his bag and risked his life, dumbest thing he's ever done he would have died if not for All might.
2. UA enterance exam: He punched a big robot and broke his legs and arms, all might should have given Deku his powers sooner so he could've trained with it. Would've died if not for recovery girl. Dumb
3. Deku vs Bakugo: Deku grabbed Bakugos arm and slammed him Smart. Then he did collateral damage. His smartest fight thus far. But still Dumb.
4. Deku vs the League of Villains: He made a whirlpool and trapped people with Mineta. Pretty Smart thinking good on Deku. But then he tried to punch Shigaraki while a Nomu was around. Would've died if not for All might. Dumb
5. Sports festival: He gathered up landmines with a piece of metal and then blew it up to win the race. This is stupid, if not for plot armour and anime logic he would've died. Dumb
6. Cavalry Battle: not much strategy here. Meh
7. Deku vs Shinso: got emotional and talked. Would've lost if not for OFA dumb.
8. Deku vs Shoto, Smart battle play using his fingers, but he broke his body for life, Dumb
9. Deku vs Gran Torino: he used his surroundings to activate full cowling, Smart.
10. Deku vs Stain: Deku just punched Stain he didn't do much. He figured out how stains quirk worked but that didn't help. Meh
11. Deku and Bakugo vs All Might: Deku strategy was literally hit him really hard. He took advantage of All Mights time limit to win this fight. Pure luck, Dumb.
12. Deku vs Muscular: He literally won by Punching Really Really hard, not a lick of strategy, broke his body again, and that lead to Bakugo getting kidnapped, he should've run away he was fast enough for that. Dumb
13. Provisional Licence exam: Deku Kicked really hard and ran away, Smart
14. Deku vs disguised Toga, he lost a point because she was most agile and got pinned down. Dumb
15. Deku, Uraraka and Tape dude against people: so Deku was a distraction and Uraraka and tape dude captured people. It's a decent plan, not super creative or Smart. But I'll give Deku some credit.
16. Deku vs Bakugo 2: He just punches and kicks. No strategy. Meh
17. 1A vs Mirio: Deku uses his brain to sniff out Mirios quirk, and loses. Meh
18. Deku vs Overhaul, he uses pretty decent fight skills to almost beat Overhaul, Smart, no strategy tho. Then Eri jumps on his back and Deku wins by punching really really hard. Dumb
19. Deku vs Gentle Criminal: Dekus Smartest and best fight of the entire series. Deku is a battle genius in this fight. Duke fights a street level criminal with a weird power but Deku manages to win using strategy.
Let's break this down Deku learns of Gentles plan and confronts him, he did some research and acts immediately he's strong enough to take him, smart. Gentle Criminal shows off his power and Deku is shocked but recovers and presues him, good. Deku shows off his new air force tech that he conveniently had on. Uses it to hit gentle.
Gentle goes to a construction location to throw off Deku. Gentle uses his powers and environment to beat deku, and eventually drops and beam on him trapping him.
Gentle runs away to the forest but Deku follows and uses Gentles powers against him to lock him down, genius, best IQ moment in the entire series for Deku.
Gentle then gets a power of love boost but Deku manages to beat him in the end. Good.
Greatest fight 5 smart points if there were more of this Deku would be a mega genius but it gets worse from here.
20. Deku vs Suneater: he hesitates to hit him and loses. Dumb
21. Class 1A vs 1B: Deku loses control of Black whip. Dumb but not his fault. He beats Shinso because Shinso is a worse fighter. Meh
22. Deku vs Shigaraki: Deku uses Black Whip and Float to capture Shigaraki and keep him off the ground to stop his destruction. Pretty smart.
He also destorys his body again in the process. Dumb.
23. Deku vs Muscular 2: Deku ties him up and punches him really really hard. That's it. Meh
24. Deku vs Lady Nagant: finally some strategy. Lady Nagant shoots at Deku using her sniper arm. Deku has to figure out her Quirk and locate her. Deku uses Smoke screen (Which he only got for this one battle, like seriously this is his worse quirk wtf?) Overhaul is suicidal so Deku saves him by using his more useful quirk, and eventually locates Lady Nagant and wins. He used his brain again very Smart Deku.
25. Deku vs Class 1A: he just overwhelmes them with his superior power and runs away, eventually losing because he's tired. Ima count this as dumb because he forgot to eat.
So over all
Smart: 8 + (5 gentle criminal)
Meh: 6
Dumb: 14
So Deku is Dumber more than he is smart.
fanboy hhhhhhhhhhh both of them have good batll iq bro shfup
A wise man once said being weak isn't the problem staying weak is the problem the words of Fragoleon
Fraudgoleon gotta take his own advice
@@phantom-X2086 Sadly he needs to as Noelle now has the water leviathan with her on her side as well as Saint Sage...
Tbf, Noelle was given the benefit of knowledge of the Heart Kingsom, as Fraudgoleon is unaware of Saint stage. That is the only excuse I'll give him. Even Mereleona got strong enough to take on an ancient demon, and here fraudgoleon is, staying lame.
@@jadenmurray1325 So had he accompanied asta on the journey to the Heart Kingdom, maybe he could have unlocked Saint Sage. But now I don't think he would be able to do that...
@@jadenmurray1325Fraudgoleon is wild, but it's true. Unless he activates it during this arc, which would be hype.
But I doubt it 💀.
Asta is just ignorant
Like not his fault but he's just ignorant to stuff that most would know cuz he had no chance to learn it
true
Deathbattle did Asta dirty and a lot of people really underestimate Asta. He’s been shown to learn and pick up techniques insanely fast. Just look at how quick it took for him to understand how to sense Ki and utilize his Black Asta form. Hell he even picks up other people’s fighting styles relatively quickly after fighting them.
😭I've been thinking this for years, thank you for letting me think I'm not alone.
W 💪🏻
I don't see the problem Luffy and Goku are dumb they have great battle IQ it's basically the trope dumb character but when it comes to fights they're smart.
I was in the military the controlling your emotions is one of the most important parts of Battle iq
Asta was always a genius it is just that his personality makes him look stupid.
proof
He was able to utilize a type of power mostly by himself in most of the show despite being in a world called mana not an anti-mana world
His process ability is insane without even having mana or ki back when he was fighting Magna
He has shown to be quite adaptable no matter what the situation is like
He was able to utilize a devil's power beyond 100% without forcing the devil to lend his power to him casually and was successful in completely syncing with the devil.
He grabbed things very quick and was able to understand ki at a lower level and a high level too.
Asta is emotionally smart, it’s why he helps so many people like Noelle. He’s also a smart fighter, and frankly politically intelligent. He understands his place in the messed up cast system and seeks to change that.
He was able to become a swordmaster at a young age
Able to utilize a large amount of power with ease
What I can say is if Asta was born as royal or a noble with tremendous mana his growth rate would be much quicker than the average mage since he will easily manipulate mana because manipulating ki is much harder and unlocks mana much quicker and grown much quicker from there.
If Asta had proper education coupled with all his current skills as a swordsman. he would be way more respected. Wht do u think about Asta getting a second grimoire or maybe a scroll?
@@Zen_Sensai If Asta got another grimoire or a a scroll he may be able to unlock his own true innate magic type he pose to have originally, if he dose unlock another grimoire or a scroll what is his own true magic type he new type might be corrupted with the devil power and now be called anti-magic something.
@@Daniel-Adanri Yes...But what if anti magic is a part of a bigger magic tht he would discover with his new grimoire or scroll. But what u said makes sense too coz his anti magic might be the corrupted form of his original magic
@@Zen_Sensai well yeah
If asta was capable of using magic instead of anti magic he would be wizard king level in 1-2 years even would be considered better prodigy than yuno to think he can learn thing in second is too op
Im using your videos to cope with not having black clover
Same bro
On god man
Don't forget that someone who shouldn't be high in Battle IQ was able to make a plan to take down Dante (a fraud) by linking up with his teacher who had at least a decade of experience over him, with more control over his Mana, access to Mana Zone, and Ki Control, while fatigued and hemorrhaging blood. He was SLOWER than both fighters, but moved in such a way that he could perfectly unite attacks with his Captain. I just want to put that out there, that he was so good at fighting that he could accommodate being crippled and naturally slower with Metavision-levels of prediction.
Finally someone said it😅. Also this is lowkey ur best video editing-wise
It's kinda ridiculous how long it took for Deku to start using his legs
Thank you broku for filling the black clover void while we wait for it to release on jump giga
of course!
"Asta dumb"
Asta in the same time learning how to use ki in 1 min, using ki on himself and learning new ability in 1 min, learning how to use secret potential of his sword alongside with Yuno in 1 min, copying battle meditation before battle with vetto in 1 min, understand that if he cant use magic he start build his body
Yeah, he is definitely dumb
He is dumb just not in battle
Awesome video
thanks!
There is also battle experience
Asta ha been a magic knight for i think 3 years he had been training and going on missions when he was 15 years old that is what black clover does well is the passage of time
then there's MHA where the entire story takes place within one year😭
Man your content is what kept me sane through my security job . Kudos to you my man
Can you please make a video on the ladies of black clover vs the ladies of bnha?
I love that asta had to grow with his power as the series goes on unlike Deku who has OFA being super powerful already with only the extra quirks needing to be shown but that’s it.
7:40 Oh you already said it, my bad. XD
Instead you could do an analysis video on both characters and not on powers and abilities.
10:41 honestly the only ability asta needs to try master in how the purposely get into someone’s subconscious with the demon destroyer, something he’s only done twice and accidentally. This may also be the key to separately saving Julius and killing Lucius by the end of the story.
Deku actually did have to train but ok😂
@@Thedoorway123 that is still true.
He learned devil union in 3 days and zetten in a half a day he's a genius
He even understood how the zetten users fight
Another moment I don't see brought up as much and was early in the series, was when Asta was fighting Rades and used his swords to slash himself to get rid of the curse spots on his body.
It’s sad Death Battle added that line cuz that something DBZA Goku would say not Asta 😭😭
The editing in this video is great
thanks! I'm trying a new software and style.
Deku is the one who wants to hit really hard ahahah
That's literally what he did for the first season and it took him until like season 2 or 3 to realize he could balance the power out by spreading it out more instead of focusing on part of his body to transfer all that power into.
@@phantom-X2086 ye ahahah
@rapidcougar3785 I would think with how smart and resourceful he was, he would've figured it out like mid season 1 or something.
@@phantom-X2086Like gran torino and all might himself said in the early seasons he's too obsessed with being all might the notes in his books all of the contents was used by him on how to copy all might making "I can use my legs moment" one of the greatest development of deku. Btw im a huge black clover fan
A video we deserve and appreciate asta and not just think he is dumb. This also clarify asta have good iq battle. Great video
I don’t think Deku could handle the Cave situation like Asta did Asta is a Genius
It's because nobody besides Yamin can sense him. But just because it's a one sided advantage, doesn't mean you shouldn't take advantage of it. Deku has never been shown to use ambush tactics or gorilla warfare, which Asta has. Deku has these fights where he clutches it somehow, while Asta and his teammates come up with reliable, coordinated efforts to take on forces bigger than themselves. The best fights for this are Vetto and saving Mereleona.
awsome vid as always!
"So smart he'd find a way to win" Nah bruh battle IQ will only take you so far against a physically stronger and faster opponent. Deku isn't Izen he'd probably run away if he was just "so much smarter then Asta"
A lot of people doesn't mention this, but Asta managed to understand how ki works pretty quickly, and was implied by the show to be quite the prodigy when it comes to anything related to ki. During the fight in the cave agains Licht (Patry), he was able to use ki sensing when Yami just introduced it to him moments ago in the heat of battle. Yami even remarked how creepy it was that he learnt it so quickly. During the Land of the Sun arc, he also learned and mastered zetten pretty quickly as well.
In short, Asta is actually not that dumb at all.
Not only that, but when the 3rd eyes of TMS vs the captains, Asta took advantage of the cloud, mist, and ki to ambush licht. That wasn't just using ki effectively, that was pure battle IQ.
Broku i want to see your take on this:
Luffy's BIQ Vs Asta's BIQ
I know it's weird but I always felt like asta is smarter than deku (even if deku is smarter)
Asta learned to get along in life and more about people.
Deku was just in school/missions or at home.
Even though they started at the same age Asta saw more of the world than Deku who always remained within Japan.
Deku is also still 15-16 while Asta is already 18
I am glad you made this video to show Asta is a great character in his own way. After all some people are good at somethings while others can be bad at but that's what it means to be human.
L is smarter than asta
Asta's fighting style relies more on his unpredictable nature, as well as the analytical skills he is shown to possess, during a fight ⚔. These analytical skills are also enhanced by his mastery of "Ki", which allows him to analyze his opponents through their breathing, emotions or even their mere presence.
Also, the thirteen-plus years of training he endured, along with his constant exposure to life-or-death situations. Makes him a very skilled warrior in battle, with the ability to defeat individuals with more experience in battle than even himself.
However, as far as all other parts of his IQ are concerned, he is still absolutely nothing smarter than people like Goku, Luffy, or even Naruto 😒.
Also, regarding your claims about Deku and his IQ in battle 🧠. You are not wrong, but you are not right here either 🤔. To begin with. The idea that it would have been better for Deku to have used kicks from the very beginning doesn't make a lot of sense 🦵.
Since he also broke his legs when he used 100% One For All during the U.A. Entrance Exam 😒. And even after mastering the Full Cowl technique, he still needed support equipment to be able to use One For All at percentages higher than 8%. As for the whole thing with Shinso, and his ability to brainwash his opponents 🧟. Although Ojiro had warned him not to respond to Shinso's verbal challenges, he still didn't know exactly how Shinso's Quirk worked.
Not knowing if the effect of Shinso's Quirk would be based on mere verbal responses. Or if there would have been other conditions regarding its activation. Besides, if you were to put Asta against Shinso, with him barely knowing anything about him. Given Asta's dynamic personality, it's unlikely that the result would have been any different than Deku's 🧟♂.
Deku's fighting style is more based on the analysis he makes of his opponents during a fight. As well as the well-thought-out calculations he comes up with, in order to be able to predict their next move 🤓.
However, as has been shown many times in his case, the fact that he tends to overanalyze almost everything around him is exactly why he sometimes ends up tripping over his own feet. Deku's much more developed intelligence, being the thing that hinders him the most when it comes to a fight.
Yeah Deathbattle has a huge biest towards DC characters and MHA characters.
Intellectual knowledge is different from Expereinced learning.
And it is a fact that the Smarter you get the more versatile you are.
i was always thinking of this, Asta is a battle genius and i stand by that. I knew as soon as he chucked his sword at Ladros. That moment was hype AF
Honestly I was never a fan of Deku because of how common sense could have solved a lot of his problems, but I guess it’s not completely his fault since a lot of characters in MHA lacked common sense. Also the whole “I’m going to become a hero with my effort, and hard work.” Just for him to just take notes, and do no training when the cocky, and arrogant childhood friend knew he needed to.
Along with stain showing us some of the potential of what Deku could have achieved if he trained.
Deku is great IMO
@@Br0ku that’s fine, I like MHA just not Deku, I just feel like the series couldn’t figure out away around the simple fact that if Deku used common sense, a lot of the problems would be a easy fix.
When you compare this to Asta, Deku is someone who just put in effort when he was offered OFA by All Might. He was just sitting on his computer and let people talk him down. There's no point in refusing any physical activity. When you enter the army you pretty much have to be in the best shape to be accepted.
In all honesty I thought that the Stain plot point is where the direction the series is going after season 2. Where society becomes a place where Deku just has to be a vigilante. You can't go out of your way to save people if you have to consider the institution. That's why superman was always instructed to capture Batman. Because he's an outlaw
@@Grayson-Winchester true
@adrianjones6103 Yep, personally what I would have liked to have seen with deku given his early observation and intelligence, would have been for before OFA was given to him, have him be developing to be like batman.
Not the wealth aspect per say, but have him using tech and intelligence and strategy to compensate for being quirkless. It would have made him way more compelling of a character.
Asta is a battle genius. But I fear for him when he becomes wizard king and needs to do book smart paper work. Cause I don’t see him ditching it like Julius but I don’t picture him succeeding in doing it😓
This is where a good assistant like goes a long way.
@@Greenyt1234 I really hope he gets a good one, because usually an assistant position like that is foreshadowed but no one currently comes to mind to who would be asta’s assistant
@@themainfandom1499 Paperwork is definitely not Asta's strength....Maybe be Marx could help him
@@Zen_Sensai I don’t know why but I always felt like would retire before asta becomes wizard king. Like how many wizard kings is one man allowed to do the paper work for? My assumption was Marx became the wizard king’s assistant when Julius became wizard king and was going to leave after his duty to Julius. Though it was just an assumption, and he is still there, so maybe
@@themainfandom1499 True or maybe one of the king's relatives like Damnatio might inherit the role of assistant
i agree on everithing you said apart for 1 thing about asta, meanwhile i have to hardly disagree on like 90% of what you said about deku. for asta yeah he grew up in an orphanage but he still has a very more simplistic view of the world and how things works than yuno wich was also grew up there and even the kid with fire powers seemed to not be on asta level of thinking, yes asta is a very smat fighter but its true he isnt the brightest in everyday situation. about deku meanwhile its true that he is very emotional wich also is a problem that himself consider especially against shiggi but i disagree with the rest, his energi control as nothing that he could really figure out alone, he take the example of allmight wich was a prodigy with it and could use instantly the 100% so he didnt really know he could use the power divided by his body or he could use less power in percentage because lets be clear all might isnt that good of a teacher about ofa and gran torino didnt really know better, about he shinso fight its just that his emotions were too much for him and deku cant shut up XD, about the kicks yes its something he coulp think about it before but its not that he didnt think about it because he is stupid but its really a mental block, he was so blind following all might path that he didnt really think of the other ways, in fact after everithing we see the real peak of deku iq during season6 where he learn how to use 6 other quirks in tandem in weeks and he display crazy biq feat both against nagant and muscular, sorry for the long comment and love to you for the content.
I respectfully disagree, but lemme word my opinion.
So Deku is battle dumb. Like I made a comment going through all his fights for fun and dang he uses his brain for like 3 fights. By use his brain I mean does things that a normal person wouldn't think.
Deku slamming Bakugo in their first fight is shown as a big IQ play for some reason, and an average person can do that. Where's the smart?
But I'll praise Deku vs Gentle criminal all day long that's Dekus best fight in the series. He is a genius there. That fight makes Deku look brain dead in all his other fights.
And he pretty much is. Deku just hits really really hard for most of his fights. Deku vs Muscular or deku vs todaroki all his strategy is hit them really hard and break his body. He doesn't use peoples quirks against them or take advantage of his superior skills.
He does that in the Gentle Criminal fight which is why its top tier and he also does it in the Lady Nagant fight too.
Those fights are his best but the rest. No strategy, punch really hard that's about it.
People think deku is a genius because he has high grades and writes in his book alot. But that doesn't translate to the battle.
Like don't take my word for it
Go through his fights they're listed on the wiki
And just write down Dekus strategy for each fight and how effective it was.
He does like nothing for most of it. Like episode 2 he runs at the sludge monster throws his bag and starts trying to dig at the sludge monster.
That's dumb. He's an idiot. He didn't think and they state that. The bag throw did nothing, Bakugos quirk was going wild and Deku would've died if All Might wasn't there.
All might is dumb too. He just watched a dude risk his life and everyone elses and he thought yeah this is the guy to give the best quirk to. A guy who doesn't think, has no skill and endangers himself and others.
Wtf? XD
@@GMYSTERYICTNF i have to disagree respectfully too. In some case its partially true but it lacks context.
While we can agree that gentle and nagant are his best fight they arent the only good iq fights, against muscular the first time there was nothing really he could do to win because muscular was stronger and didnt harm himself like deku so he simply bulldoz trough the laiers of muscles as well as he could, in fact the second time that he was more relative he stayed on the distance against him and used the point where the tremor guy hit knowing how muscle works to finish it fast.
Against todoroki he tried to catch him lacking witouth make him realize that he was almost out of bond to make him fall and later he simply trued to help him psychologically more than win.
Against bakugo it was more a display of his reflex and hands more than iq until the last moment wich was indeed a big brain move because he used the emotions of bakugo to make him go to himself so he leaved the base where uraraka could use the homerun against lida always created thanks to deku aiming to the roof.on top of that how he copied aizawa scarf to try to block bakugo weapon, his hands.
Against the sludge villain yesh deku was arupid but that was a kid witouth power wich simply seen his friend dying and he tryed to save him, he was stupid? Absolutely but all might didnt give him his quirk because he tried to fight a villain witouth a quirk but because he put his life on danger to try to save even 1 person.
On top of that dont forget the time when he used the landmine to win the race, where he used uraraka and dark shadow in a optimal way to escape, where he used tsuyu and mineta to block all the villains and more.
Deku is a beast in iq its just that majority of his real battles againsy people that tryes to kill him are too much for everyone and himself, so there times when he has to bulldoze his way, deku doesnt have a constant gallery of iq display because he doesnt have a constant growth, compared to asta deku fighted the final villain on season 1. Sorry to say this buddy but you should analize better those fights.
Do luffy Battle IQ Vs Asta Battle IQ or Just Do Luffy Vs Asta video
Asta is smarter than deku when come to battle iq three proff in my opinion
1. Fought stronger opponents than deku because we all konw that some villain in the black clover verce can solo mha verse like Lucifero the twin devils and so on and so for
2. Asta is 18 years old in final chapters of the manga and deku is still 16 years old asta going mission to mission since he in a magic knight of the clover kingdom and deku is still a hero in training and has less experience in battle
3.He remembers skills and techniques that he learned and he can use in combat example when the twin devils shoot of ice and fire he remember when he use the demon slayer a baseball bat against magna fire balls he remember it and use it in that battle
And that asta has better battle iq that deku asta is scale higher than deku so there no way he can beat by someone that scale lower than him by just intelligent alone you the strength speed and etc to defeat him
the only way Deku is smarter than Asta, is when you give them both two stat sheets of different fighters from the same vers. Deku will figure out who is stronger faster than Asta.
I agree that deku's admiration of all might and his emotions fucks with his intelligence. Shoot style and full cowling, plus his first fight with shinso proves this
Asta screams a lot, and plays dumb often, but he never really was especially in the battlefield
Asta is smarter than Naruto, who *had* access to education but *refused* to learn.
Its just like real life. We see stories of the poor kid who came from nothing get all A's in school. Vs the average student who is failing.
Asta is determined. He didn't come from much so he takes advantage of whatever he gets, because he knows he has to catch up.
Quick question: i personally got to the lucifero fight, are demons from the 2nd gate automatically stronger than the 1st gate ones? Like are low ranking devils from the first gate weaker than low rankers from the 2nd? I dont think they made it very clear
I think its implied that it works like that based on the leaders of each gate being consecutively stronger
@@Br0ku so like a low ranker from the 7th gate might be stronger than a mid ranker from the first?
Almost all of your complaints about deku is how he couldn't control the power not his battle IQ
Well in Brokus defense Deku doesn't have alot of Battle IQ feats. Most fights are just punch hard and punch harder
A VERY Late Time to comment. But why are people like this. I have thought of Asta as a MC that a dumbbutt but a PURE GENIUS when it comes to fighting like Naruto, Luffy, Natsu so why is people acting like Asta is different.
If deku was smart, he would have remembered he had legs earlier.
he is smart
Like gran torino and all might himself said in the early seasons he's too obsessed with being all might the notes in his books all of the contents was used by him on how to copy all might making "I can use my legs moment" one of the greatest development of deku. Btw im a huge black clover fan
hoping this'll clear up some misconception
Asta is a pretty good fighter
Ayyyyy it’s the one you were taking about,
Soo was I the only one that saw how similar Asta is to Goku
Both just saw techniques that takes years to master and learned them just like that
They also copy a lot of the other techniques that they see with friends Goku with roshi,killin and Tien
And Asta from Yami,Fonzell and kiato
When he was explaining all that was in my head was "wait a minute that's just Goku"😂
I actually would’ve said something about this to the moment and gave it back. Because of Yuki Tibada’s inspiration coming from dragon ball, much of the lessons that are in Dragon Ball can actually be seen in black clover as well.
11:12 Note that in this scene, Asta shows how high his battle IQ is, he's fighting a demon, who controls three of his swords, who stole him an arm, and can't cancel his magic with his sword, and yet, he managed to defeat him, and he even shown all the skills he learned from other swordsmen, the best part is that he just trained with only two of them, and yet, he mastered every swordmanship he saw very quickly, and added them to his fighting style to become even more skilled
Next vid is going to be Magna stronger than you think, right👉👉
You know what I find a bit odd? People say Asta is dumb when comparing him to others, but no one ever says the same about Yuno. He might be a lot less loud than Asta is, but Yuno was raised in the same circumstances, therefore he had no better of an formal education. Now sure, he may have been hailed as a prodigy, but that doesn't automatically mean he's smarter with how he uses his magic, just that it's very strong.
Interesting way to think about it. People often overlook that but Yuno is technically the guy who over time gets amazing control over his powers. But in terms of technique, Asta is better coz he comes up with practically out-of-the-box ways that even Yuno can think of at times. Power-wise they are very close to each other as both usually get their power-ups almost at the same time.....Plus the fact that Yuno has like grt mana is kinda what people use to make him look great compared to Asta
Yuno overtime practiced with his magic, so in battle hes techniques are superior. Yuno isn't Asta he took the advantage over him by working on what he didn't have, magic. Yuno trained just as long as Asta.
Asta didn't have the privilege of being able to train with his powers, like he had no teachers and you can punch a thousand times but without proper form the strength means nothing. Like look at Zetten. Asta had the skills and the moment he learnt the technique his power got better.
So thats my thoughts as to why Yuno seems smarter in battle. He just had more practice. If Asta had magic him and Yuno might be equal skilled in battle.
What was Asia's first thought when he broke his arms hey I can use my legs immediately
Asta is a literal genius. He learned ki during a life or death crash course lesson from Yami, even calling him a freak when he got it on his second try. And mastered zetten in like 3 days which most people can't even learn in a lifetime of training.
Wow the main character has a high Battle IQ where have I seen that a dozen times. That's pretty much average though for anime
There is a reason why battle iq is a different term
can you do asta vs luffy IQ or you can do whos stronger so can you pls do that bro
also imagine he could copy other energy base attack in other verse a possible power like haki kamehameha other dragonball attacks maybe hado ( forgot the name of the power sorry bleach fans)
in normal sense. Asta is Martial Genius mastering any technique and discovering their ability for the first time he see it
Asta is offensively stupid. Every breath he takes is a deliberate offense. He is every "stupid teenager makes a stupid decision to advance the plot" multiplied by a thousand. His battle cunning can't make up for even a tenth of a percent of his rage-inducing stupidity.
Even when Nero and the antagonist both explain to him that the truth doesn't matter in the court, he still keeps digging himself into a hole. His very existence beyond episode 1 is a deliberate offense by the writer.
Asta's Battle IQ gives him abilities like the Sharrigan from Naruto.
the only thing i dotn question, in general not just asta, why dont they go after the grimoire
This is unrelated to the video but I had three questions, they all pertain to Yami vs Gojo (something my friend brought up to me):
Could “Dimension Slash” bypass Infinity?
Could “Death Thrust” bypass infinity?
And could Yamis Mana Zone, Black Moon negate CT and possibly Infinite Void?
Dimension Slash 100% would.
Death Thrust is a lot more debateble, I might lean to no.
Black moon would negate CT (maybe not purple) but I do think it would protect him against UV.
I mean a lot of people knew that yami can cut infinity we knew that infinity was just spacial manipulation I mean Miguel confirmed this himself
Asta in his world isnt really dumb i mean he can read and write
5:04 only L of the video. Nah saying that it's just an excuse is just wrong. Like you mentioned, Deku's BIQ comes from being quirkless and his analysis. It's not just "idolising All Might" he took inspiration fron various heroes. His fighting style still has influence from Gran Tarino and Bakugo. It wasn’t just "learning to kick". That's a massive oversimplification. It was adding his own twist to the influences he had taken. Claiming that the defense for it is just an excuse while also claiming cognative dissonance is massive hypocrisy on your part.
I’m saying that’s the defense MHA fans use, that he was idolizing All Might. I know that Deku uses more than just All Might as inspiration.
You didn’t provide anything that shows I was being hypocritical? No matter how much you put glitter on Deku’s learning to kick, it’s not anything crazy, at all.
One of the major themes of the video is how Asta’s BIQ is downplayed while other characters get wanked.
No matter how you put it, Deku being blinded by following in All Might’s footsteps and that leading to him taking awhile to adapt his fighting style with something as basic as kicks is a knock on him. It’s nothing to discredit Deku, only to clarify the playing field we are actually working with.
@@Br0ku because you're just claiming it to be cognative dissonance while simplifying things so much that it makes it seem like poor battle IQ when it isn't. Deku didn't "learn to kick." There's no glitter over it. You are simply oversimplifying things. Deku has used kicks before in fights. It's developing his own fighting style and replacing the use of punches. You're objectively oversimplifying that and it's a poor example of your argument.
Yeah it's fair trying to show how Asta is downplayed while others get wanked, but you're just doing the same thing to Deku here, equally unfairly, thus, hypocrisy. The other 2 examples were fine to make that point (although I feel you were missing some context when claiming that Deku has poor understanding of his system. Quirks are varied and don't come with energy. It's more of a lack of understanding of his own quirk which is fair since he never had one.)
@@kanemccarthy1979 I just told you that I wasn’t using it to say that Deku had poor battle IQ, yet you are saying that I’m doing that.
I’m not over simplifying it. Deku was hindering his own fighting style because of his fanboyism. Thats an anti-feat to his battle IQ.
I’ve stated both in video and in comments that Deku has good battle IQ so stop saying that. Just because I oversimplified it doesn’t mean I’m wrong. The video is about Asta, I’m not going to sugarcoat context where things are not needed for Deku.
If my video were all about Deku having poor battle IQ, you’d have a point, because obviously context shows he has good battle IQ. Just because the full context of an anti-feat makes it more forgivable, doesn’t excuse that it’s an anti-feat.
@@Br0ku poor wording on my part but the point is the same. You're downplaying Deku by doing that. And again, you continue to misrepresent it when you're just wrong on that point. Deku wasn't blinded by fanboyism. You state as a point in favour of his BIQ that due to his quirklessness he analyses other heroes first before considering his own strength. This is actually a point in favour of his BIQ by further adding to his own strengths in spite of what he's used to.
Bottom line you are misrepresenting Deku there and it's hypocritical to unfairly downplay him in a video about how Asta is unfairly downplayed, no matter how you slice it.
I'm not unfairly downplaying him.
Deku says that he was hard-focusing on his fists because that's how All Might fought.
Deku: "It's so simple I never even realized..." after first using Shoot Style.
Deku himself recognizes that its simple.
@@kanemccarthy1979
astas dumb in a iq sense, but just like goku an naruto BATTLE IQ AN SKILLS are not the the equivalent of your normal iq
Poor Deku
Good
Asta lost iq in exchange battle IQ
nah the biggest thing mha fans get wrong in the powerscaling, is asta does thousands of exercises, when do we see deku do anything close to this?
Unrelated to the video
@@Thedoorway123who
Where’s Asta vs meliodas
next week.
Black Clover fans trying not to diss MHA(impossible):
never dissed My Hero did I?
Why you talking so slow broku?
Actually is this ai?
You've got to be joking?
@@Br0ku idk man I just sounded off to me is all you are probably reading off a script to be fair
@@lacasa6322 I always read from a script
FIRST
I feel like he’s tryna convince himself more than us. BC is boring asf wow a generic timid story one dimensional main character forced anime tropes and Yami is the coolest but not the best character I don’t even know who that would be but it sucks.
Sure guy 🤣🤣
Morgiana and Aladdin w
He learned devil union in 3 days and zetten in a half a day he's a genius
He even understood how the zetten users fight
If people, REALLY say, that Asta, has DUMB Battle IQ, they have NO IDEA, of how many times he has actually surpassed the skill lvl the opponents THOUGHT he had. Is he the smartest character in Shonen? Not by a long shot 😅. But, the fact that he has ROUTINELY, won against a seemingly, insurmountable foe, is undeniable, and it shows that HE CAN GROW. He can IMPROVE.