LIGHTEST REAL 2-PERSON TENT // Durston X-Mid Pro 2+ Review
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
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Thanks for the kind words and checking out the X-Mid Pro 2+. You did a super nice job pitching it (both the tent itself and the beautiful spots).
Glad to hear you're really liking the tent. The DCF floored version tips the scales at just 19.4 oz (550g) which seems to make it the worlds lightest tent that can fit two wide rectangular pads. It's been a fun project trying to make something with such an unsurpassed volume:weight ratio.
Also thanks for the tip about the LineLoc hooks. Those are pretty cool. This year we're including micro LineLocs for the guylines but those don't clip on like these do. I am seriously considering including this for a future update. I also appreciate the suggestion about lowering the pockets a bit. I like them to span the full width of the panel so they're sewn into the seams (stronger). They get awfully wide/prone to hanging open if they're really low, but I probably can and should lower them down a bit. Might be able to adjust them down 6". Thanks for this.
For the price of the tent, the actual pricing is a tough lower than mentioned here (e.g. $669 not $680) but yeah DCF is expensive. We've been working to lower our prices on it, so the X-Mid Pro 2+ is actually slightly less than last years regular size X-Mid Pro and those other models dropped by $40-$50, but yeah DCF is expensive. I hope it comes down but don't think it'll happen until they automate the production which they're talking about but they've been talking for a lot of years.
Glad you're liking the tent,
Dan
To get the pocket to not sag, would it be possible to stitch/bond the pocket in the middle, splitting it into two? In theory this stitch wouldn't take much load, so it shouldn't compromise the strength of the pocket too much. As long as both sides are wide enough to fit a phone in, having it split shouldn't be an inconvenience.
@@RayHikes Are you talking about ridgeline pockets like we have on the non-Pro tents? We don't have them on the Pro because it's trying to be a superlight tent and it already has two other pockets, but yeah we could do a full length ridgeline pocket like this. It would have to sew to the canopy of the fly, so it's a lot of stitching and extra tape though. I prefer to locate pockets on mesh so we don't have to seal the holes after.
@@durstongear was more thinking of the pocket on the side mesh. Drop it down, and fasten it in the center so it doesn’t sag forward as much. Would be more material than the pocket is now, probably by double, but I’m not sure how much weight that would really add. Then the pocket would be low so Justing could reach it with his t-Rex arms lol. Ridgeline pocket isn’t something I’d expect/want on the pro line, seems like it would be out of place. Thanks for the reply Dan, I love your designs!
@@RayHikes Thanks for the kind words! I see what you mean now. Most people seem pretty happy with the sidewall pocket location, but yeah some people want it lower. I could use the same design and lower it a few inches. More than that it would be getting awfully long and tend to hang open. I could just sew a pocket that doesn't extend to the fly, but that's a bit clumsy. I could also split it in two. That would work - it just seems like a bit of a overkill solution. Might be best just to move it a bit lower.
@@durstongear will you come up with other colors? Like yellow or red? 😎
Dan is honestly the goat of taking criticism and then changing his designs based on it
I outfitted a group of ten senior women with tents for a kayak outing this summer. Several were novices, a couple had some camping experience, two were very experienced and one completed the AT. The tents I had for them to choose from were: MSR Hubba, North Face TriArch, Zpacks Duplex & Altaplex, Hilleberg Soulo & Allak 3, KUIU Mtn Star & Storm Star and Duston X Mid Pro 2. What I found extremely interesting is: after watching me pitch these tents, then checking out the interiors, crawling in and out, and laying on 25" inflatable NEMO pads in them, the ONE TENT they all wanted for the trip was the X MID PRO 2. Why? It was the quick and easy to pitch, entry and exit was easy, interior room was more than adequate for one plus gear, adjustable ventilation, bug netting, zippered doors and bug netting. were the reasons given. Unfortunately I only had one and they drew straws to see who used for the trip. Another interesting note: All the ladies wanted their own tent. As it turned out a couple of them shared. In the end they all had a great trip. Dan Durston you are on to something. I ordered a 2+ already. I may need more because these ladies already have a trip planned for next summer.
That's awesome. Thanks for showing them the tent.
I love Kuiu products and use one of their 60L, 4 lb packs as both my hunting and hiking pack. So considering everything Kuiu is geared towards, it baffles me why they don't make a lighter tent.
715lbs! Damn that’s heavy. Great review. Just purchased one today.
Awesome tent Dan! Awesome tent / gear reviews Justin! Huge thanks to you guys for helping our good times and smiles come easier while out adventuring. Can't wait to get out rig back together so we can pick up one of these haha!!! Cheers!
Great review Justin! I've been using those same hook linelocs with 1.5mm dyneema cord that I picked up from Ripstop by the Roll. Love the versatility of these, as I use these with my poncho tarp I sometimes bring as a separate makeshift eating shelter away from the campsite, and now also on my Pro 2.
The dipole I have uses a hook lineloc on the doors and I it hard to get through the webbing loops so I just put on small guyline loops there instead. It's only a few grams and the hook attaches better to that cordage especially once tensioned.
That’s a good and honest review. Nothings perfect. But with Durston, it’s pretty darn close.
Great work
Thanks for another great review! I just ordered it, can't wait to try it out!
Excellent review Justin, I’ve been adoring my regular xmid2 for the past summer. I think it’s time you got your hands on a Kakwa to try out next!
Great review. For the rain/moisture issue maybe provide a light weight rubber squeegee (or even a windshield wiper blade cut in half - you get the picture !!). You don’t talk about the pole mounting points. Some people have sharp poles. How does this setup work ? Is there relief for the tip of the pole ? What prevention is there to stop holes getting poked (or does it mount with the spike in the ground ??).
I just bought the DCF floor option 1P this morning.
Thanks for this.
Ordered mine today!
Wow!!!! That is pretty awesome!
Haha. The slap in the face to dan at the end... and go check out the zpack arc haul. I can hear dan yelling through the screen. "But you haven't tried the kakwa yet!!!!"
😂😂😂
I'm looking forward to it. Think it will be better for me and my wife. Vs the x-mid pro 2. Think ours is in customs atm
Dan is the man! Best UL gear IMO.
Could you please share, where you got the line lock hooks with cordage pre-attached?
I still have my MassDrop 1p version. Solid tent!
My 2P is a massdrop version - feels retro. haha
Is there a discount code for a fellow Justin outdoor enthusiast? Haha. This is definitely my next purchase. Great review, the tent looks great!
Those line loc hooks are my favourite little accessories!
Where do you get them? I can't seem to find. Thanks!
Here you go: geni.us/LineLocHook
Thanks buddy! Love your content!@@GearPriority
I am concerned about the packing volume for the Dyneema fabric. Is it the volume significantly more than the the regular xmid?
This is AWESOME! Hoping the 2.5+ double wall drops soon!
The regular X-Mid 2 is quite large for a 2P tent and arguably already a 2+. This new 2+ version in our Pro series is because the normal Pro 2 is smaller, so it's actually quite similar in size to the normal X-Mid 2.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe they want (including me) a double walled version, but in dyneema. Or offer just the fly for the x-mid 2 in dyneema if possible. I’m not sure how much weight that would save, if any.
@@JM-gd7ml Yeah we are working on this. It's not ready yet but will happen in the second half of 2024.
@@durstongearwoohoo!!! You rock!
@@durstongear, Dan!!! That’s what I’m looking for! I don’t like single wall for several reasons. So what’s a few more oz’s. I can live with it as I’m sure others can too.
Hi Justin. Nice review. I own several UL tents including the X-Mid 2P Pro. An excellent tent to review is the Tarptent Double Rainbow Li. Have a look at this tent. I'm currently using my Zpacks Altaplex.
yeah....I do own a Tarptent Double Rainbow Li and agree, its really a great tent. Still the new X-Mid Pro2+ is somewhat tempting, and I try to convince me to get myself one.
Thanks Justin ! Have you ever considered reviewing the following topic: Best solutions or products for those of us who have Obstructive Sleep Apnea and depend on a CPAP machine. This sleep disorder does keep a lot of us, who would be like to spend some days on trail, but without a CPAP it is just impossible to get the proper sleep needed for a multi day trek- thanks, love your channel and the positive content !
Got a link for those clip on linelocs?
Hey Justin, what are your thoughts on the Zpacks Offset?
Hit the "Buy it" button this morning, looking forward to trying it out. I'm using it solo, but for the small cost difference I went with the plus. I do trail work, and need a place to store my wet stuff (that I have to put back on in the morning) away from my sleep system, and the 1p just didn't do the job. It's going to take a while to reload the piggy bank, $688 with shipping.
Hey Al. You should love the tent. I used an original x-mid 2P on the first of the season Duckabush trip you led in 2022. It's fantastic to have the space to bring everything inside. I have an original Pro 2 that I haven't even used yet (complicated year) and that I'm replacing with the 2Plus. I'd love to hear how you find the Pro handles condensation in the Olympics. Kathy HB
I bought an X-Mid 1 after seeing your tent, but while it may be a fine backpacking tent, it has no living space. Maybe we could get Justin to come out on a 4 day work party, and see how the other half lives!
@@almashburn1770Wow. I didn't realize anyone noticed my Drop Durston 2P. :) Seriously, I find the 1P, even the most recent iteration with the additional 5 inches of width, is a coffin! I tried to get Lee to consider it but she's uncertain about a trekking pole tent.
Justin needs an "I survived the Duckabush" sticker!
May looking at the outer not near to the ground, in fact quite high! Would I be right to state this is not a 4 Season tent but 3?
They just need to make a 1+ now lol
It’s massive!
Thanks Justin, happy you got the first review scoop. You should go back to a full size version of the Swedish cloth, worth the extra gram or two for sure!
If Dan's able to send me a permanent 2+, I'll definitely be bringing a full sized swedish cloth with it! haha
I see that Dan gave you the Canadian hook up with the early look at this tent! It looks great, but I'll stick with my OG X-Mid Pro 2 from last year (pre-pockets). What do you recommend for cordage length on the peak guy outs?
8 ft / 244cm is good length. I have same version as you.
Fun fact, you can setup a three cord guy-out from each tent pole peak for extreme conditions. Using my carbon poles for my packraft paddle, it's so strong that I couldn't knock the tent down despite charging at it and throwing my body on it.
Can you post a link for the line locks. I already own xmid pro 2 and xmid 1person. Really don’t want to buy another tent at this time.
Here you go! geni.us/LineLocHook
Would love one of those tents but the downside for us, who are not allowed to wildcamp and have to stay at Campings (so neighbours very close) is the see-trough material 😔
It is not exactly "see-through" more like "heavily censored". My wife had the same fears but quickly overcame that. Upside for me is I feel much closer to nature during dark when one can see silhouettes of trees and such.
@@Pisunisse that's true and therefore I like them as well. But I used a zpacks once and several people around me at the camping told me that they could see what I was doing in my tent so that didn't feel really comfortable for me.
I hope he makes this same tent, but in a more affordable SilPoly or Challenge TNT
Silpoly already exists
@@arthurvino Durston doesn’t make a single-walled SilPoly tent
Is Dan trying to trick us? Never! I think at least 1/2 of the people who buy Durston gear buy it because of the trust they have in Dan. At least when he first started selling tents for sure.
Bro I’m telling you it’s because you find him in the comments and he responds to emails. Dude is gonna get overwhelmed with orders soon.
Pics of 2 people sitting up in the tent is the only reason I came here :( The pro 2+ is the same size of the "normal" 2 right? I've heard 1 of the 2 occupants gets fabric in the face when sitting up in the normal 2, is this still the case with the 2+?
Hello Justin, my question is,why do you suppose Dan while increasing the floor in the pro 2 plus to 52"..decreased the size of the floor in the original DCF xmid 2 from 48" to 46"? If it were barely possible to stuff two 25" non tapered pads in before..probably not happening now..wonder how many people already familiar with xmids specs made a hasty purchase on a limited supply fearing they would soon be out of stock again..not realizing the floor is now narrower ..indifferent to me as i ordered the plus..but still had i wanted original dcf 2 ..i probably would have missed that "NEW" ..but very important detail..again ..why smaller? Sincerely
The actual width of the Pro 2 didn't change, just the number on the website in order to be more conservative.
Thanks for your response
What length trekking poles are needed for this tent?
Varies on your pitch, but 120-130cm usually does it for me.
I'll stick with the regular xmid 2p, I couldn't stomach paying an extra $400+ dollars just to save a pound of trail weight. I can find other ways to shave a pound off of my pack lol. I do wish maybe Dan would consider a regular 2+ model cuz even though I am able to make 2 wide pads work in the regular one it does feel a little janky and crammed.
Hi is this woven or dyneema?
What about UNBOUND 2P, Justin?
Good review. Unless it's different with this tent, the recommendation on the x- mid 2 p is to stake the two corners of the short side, not the long side (door) as you did.
Oh is that a fact now?
@@sl4383 did you miss the part where he said it is a recommendation?
@karyn4875 It does not matter which corners you stake first, especially when you're trying to fit a tent in a tight space or having to deal with uneven ground and roots, or when you discover that the ground on one or two corners are hard to even put a stake in.
@thewanderingsoul71 No, I didn't hear him say that.
Maybe a little loop of paracord left on the tiny guy lines would make it easier
that tent has a huge footprint. some of the trails i've hiked in the SE that become an issue.
Unfortunately, you run into trade-offs with space vs footprint.
The front print is 85” x 100”. The zpacks duplex is 93” x 100”. The duplex is the number one tent on the big three, John Muir, Benton McKaye, and countless others. The inside dimension of the Durston sit on a diagonal at 52” x 106” which does not effect the outside footprint
I wonder what all would think of a plethora of stitched in loops to link strings instead of pockets
nice review, the floor is 52" wide though (not 54" 4:38)
I always miss one :( ...or 2 or 3
Just another promo video!!! Would love to find unbiased reviews
Super light, but a prohibitive price. I'm sticking with the regular X Mid 2P.
At least the original X-Mid 2P is sick!
Purple pants
I'll never get it. Why is it better than the duplex. Is it really only because of sleeping pads? The offset is a deal breaker for two people. The pole has NEVER once been "in the way" now without a dynema floor...you know the part that sits in the water. I just don't get it.
2-3 person tent, that has vestibule that wont soak my gear = Impossible to find .
If you’re worried about wiping a two person tent compared to a one person, that’s definitely nit picking like hell. The price is still cheaper than it’s competitors. As for the guy outs, it’s typical size with dyneema tents. As for steaks, the Big Country Tube Steaks work just as good with these tents as does MSR stakes on the corners as well as doors. What you see wrong with this tent is nothing compared to many of the competitors and is actually much better. I own the one pro and the two pro, and this will be ordered today.
Doesn't sound like you're biased at all ;)
@@GearPriorityto be fair, I also have the unbound 2p and the Double Rainbow Li. I had a zpacks Duplex and absolutely hated it. I do find myself using the X Mod the most, but I can’t complain about the Unbound or the DR, which I use as well. I take a lot of folks who’ve never been backpacking before. I want them to enjoy it 😊😊😊. Your review was good, BTW
@@jamicrawford6729 Thanks for your support. Glad you're liking the X-Mid's.
@@durstongear of course, and I am thankful you took all of our input on making the pro 2 bigger so we could use wide pads. Thank you for doing this! 😅
@@jamicrawford6729 Thanks!
Why would a person carry a ultralight tent and the weight of a extra wide sleeping pad...?
People seem to 🤷🏼♀️. They want gear to be light and comfortable
Because my husband and I both sleep in the tent and want to sleep comfortably while carrying less weight compared to taking a double walled tent and tent poles.
lighter tent = "free" weight for comfort add ons: larger pot, isolated mug, wider mattress (better sleep), camp chair, camp shoes all are now free and still lighter due to the 2.5lbs I'm saving vs my BA copper spur. No brainer, just have to pay for it
Be glad it is just a tent. My griend recently paid 140k for a sail for his boat.
You forgot the other big negative - it lets a heap of light in, not great in areas with long day lengths. Oh and privacy, it's got none lol
$1,093.00 CAD
NO one talks but, Durston (X-Mid) cloned this tent from the Sierra Designs - High Route 3000 1P 🙂 this tent was released several years earlier than X-mid
Website says 52 inches wide. Yet, you claim 54.
The height of those pockets is hilarious.
That Dan guy is a real trickster.
Hi Justin, if thats the tent of your dreams you haven't tested the Zpacks Duplex Zip... its way, way, way, way better.
Plus it's made in the US. Durston tents are made in China.
You mean the one that Zpacks built ripping off the X-Mid design choices after saying they would not? Keep drinking the Zpacks kool aid buddy. Zpacks makes overpriced, low quality products that might make hipsters like you happy, but are poor choices for most. Plenty of other brands, apart from Durston, that are much better than Zpacks.
@@thewanderingsoul71 I just did the Cape wrath trail with it old chap… was perfect. Also had the mid pro which flaps like a sail in the wind. Unless you have tried both you don’t really know what you’re talking about.
I have, the Duplex Zip is not more me. I actually like the super minimal designs from Zpacks more - like the regular Duplex or Plex Solo.
I am pretty sure they are made in Vietnam.
Two poles and downwards dipping in the middle top of the roof, no thanks. Pyramid way better.
Save your money ,get in shape so you can carry that 2 lbs more
Let’s have a little history lesson, tent sizing was originally based on a survival situation, not livability. I cringe every time I hear all of you big time tubers talk about the livability.
I enjoy being comfortable on most of my outdoor adventures and not just surviving.
Purple pants