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Hey Nick! I know you're with DIY now and your videos there are great.
But all your Koch Chemie videos you did here are super helpful and I'm using a lot of the techniques you showed to correct my non- metallic black Audi. With really good results for a first-timer!
I have tried and spent a lot of money on different brands such as Meguiars, Carpro, Chemical Guys, Autoglym etc etc but have swapped my whole product line to Koch Chemie and let me tell you it’s insanely good! Not only are their chemicals strong but most of them can be diluted to desired strength which makes them insanely economical. Their polish system is as you can see for yourself very very good! Glad to see they are stepping into the U.S now.
Fun fact: BMW, Audi, Mercedes and Volkswagen all recommend Koch Chemie to be used on their cars 😄
100 percent agree. I haven't found a better line up, across the board. Tried eulex yet? So stinky but so good...
Very nice detailed video, love especially the fact that it’s raw and not all edited or sped up video. You show the process in whole and technique, movement and how one should try to mimic. Priceless knowledge. Thank you and looking forward to all your vids and future vids bro. Stay well
Awesome tips Nick - thanks for sharing. I’m a big Koch Chemie fan.
Thanks! Yep, it's honestly the first line up I've found where I could see myself exclusively stocking my shelves with koch chemie only. Lots of brands want you to buy into their "system"...but usually, there are deficiencies that make you question the dogma haha. Koch, at least from what I've used so far, is just legit
@@HawkProDetailing I couldn’t agree more. Today I used Koch heavy cut with the Koch pad and finally conquered my maddening black 2014 Mercedes. I couldn’t belief the end result. I’ve used 3 other products and nothing could touch the micro scratches and swirls like the Koch Chemie duo!
I've wanted to try that stuff. It looks amazing. The gloss is insane.
Yeah man it's the truth! And the same process works the same on nearly all paint so it takes the guesswork out
So much truth here. I burnt through paint for the first time in 40 years a month ago. Thin thin paint on a new car. $3000 fix.
I like the Koch Chemie H9 and M3. Great polishes that work well with KC pads. You should try out their Magic Wheel Cleaner. I always choose MWC when cleaning expensive wheels because I don’t have to worry about any damage. Works on all kinds of wheel finishes.
Thanks for the tip with uno pure. It's not often that I can't find a single thing to disagree over in a youtube video, but you nailed it. Great production value, as well. Keep up the good work!
Thanks man! You won't know the frustration of sticky paint until you run into it lol...but having a little uno pure to make it lubricated and easy wipe off is clutch. One tip is you want to wipe the product off pretty quickly after your passes as well (per Jason rose)
Interesting you add Uno pure. I’ve been underwhelmed on how that polish finishes on soft black paint. Anyhow, car looked stunning. Love your vids!!!
Thanks man! Have you ever had that happen? There's this weird outline on the edges of your polish section...it's enough to drive you crazy. It's not like a line between where you've compounded and polished...it's just all around your polish section. It drove me absolutely nuts on this 20 year old jaguar...and I learned that is what they call "sticky" paint. The one tiny drop of uno pure gives enough lubrication...just a pass or two and quick wipe off...and it's like magic. I haven't found uno pure alone to be my favorite but I'm grateful to have discovered this "hack." I played around with other combos but you still want m3 to be the dominant product with just that little lubrication boost from uno pure. M3 wipes off easy but uno pure wipe off is super super smooth so maybe that's part of it
@@HawkProDetailing not sure I’ve experienced that…yet…but I have experienced very soft paint which drives me crazy! Great tip on the addition of uno pure. M3 is absolutely fantastic and I will always have it. I do mainly 1-step corrections, so I’m not using it a whole lot unless I’m dealing with soft black paint.
Nick, if you haven't been able to try it yet and you're polishing on something that isn't going to coated or have any serious long term protection thrown on it immediately after (like something going to a show or a garage queen/art piece car), then the P3.01 finishes even slicker cleaner and glossier obviously because it has wax and fillers built in. But like I said for the right situation and car it's truly a sight to behold and my favorite just make it look amazing polish.
Amen!
@@HawkProDetailing Nick! You're alive! We miss you but keep doing your thing and prioritizing the important stuff.
Btw I sent you a message on Instagram a while back, and I'd love to see what you think when you get a chance to read it
Are there ever any times when you prefer the P301 over the M302 for finishing?
I actually scored a major deal at the Orem NPS store the other day and they had a 1 liter size of both the P301 and M302 for $30 each. I'll take that 50% off all day.
Great vid, those buffer trails sure do look nasty. Most of the times they come out very easy, but these seem to be very deep.
Jeez can't imagine how long that must've taken! I wouldn't have the patience to keep going haha. I've done dealership detailing for the last couple of months, currenty got it down to 3 hours for the full deal on normal cars.
Last car I did was hammered though, and nothing was working fast or good enough. Had to try something new for me. I remembered your vid on the Koch chemie polishes. I compounded with Menzerna 400 first, which leaves a great finish, but just not good enough and wiped off terribly.
So after the compounding, left the residue, got a new pad, Optimum Hyper polish and a quick pass. Finish was seriously near perfect (it was insane, given the time spent) and wipe-off a breeze. Took me about 4.5- 5 hours in total inside and out. So thanks for that!
Heck yeah man! The quick pass method can be miraculous sometimes
I love my Lake Country 4000 for pads and it makes polishing so much easier than trying to blow them out.
Me too! Love how good it cleans the pads and cools them too. Unfortunantly, I lost the O-ring from between the buckets, now it mixes the dirty and clean water. So watch out for that.
I hear you! I found the lake country 4000 to be amazing for cleaning microfiber and wool (do you use the snappy clean powder?)... but these KC pads can break down easy if you put them through the pad washer with the washboard ridges so I prefer to hand clean them. Rupes pads on the other hand... their foam takes a lickin and keeps on kickin. You can run them through that pad washer no problem. I'm a fan of the pad washer for sure though
@@HawkProDetailing I use the snappy cleaner but bought the mckees one since it's the same after watching your video with yvan. I think the snappy cleaner works much better cleaning than anything else I've tried using including onr, air, etc. I use it for all my foam, mf pads from lc and rupes and they hold up much longer since I've done it. I haven't tried the kcx pads but I love f6 and m3. I have yet to try h9 but you seem to really like it!
M3 has fillers according to a koch distributor.
@@matthewgibb2640 haven't heard that I'll have to ask my kcx seller I buy from
KC is a beast of a product great vid keep it up
Thank you! Any other koch favorites? The latest one to blow me away is eulex. Stinky... but so damn good at adhesive removal
Great video homie keep them coming
Thank you sir!
Amazing videos, thank you.
Thanks Mike!
I wonder how many ppl noticed the APS backing plate on your PXE80 ?
From detail division
For you saying it’s the best out there it’s not bad in price I pay the same amount for 3M’s 3 step which works wonders exactly for me as I have to cut and buff clear coats from a fresh paint job to match oem orange peel mite have to give this one a good and get the 5 litres
Anyone done some work on Volvo XC90? 2018 mod. Black. Got some holograms and man they are hard to get out. Any tips?
As much as I wanna love my Rupes 15mm 5.5 inch, the stalling is completely ridiculous. The slightest edges, the softest curves, the most minute readjustment makes it stall. It seriously feels like it adds 45 minutes to polishes sometimes. The only 2 settings the machine allows is 1/6 and 5/6. 6/6 doesn’t make any difference and it will not operate without stalling in between those settings, even on flat roofs & hoods.
Have you checked out my shinemate video? It's maybe 3-4 videos previous to this one... and I go through all of this lol. I definitely agree with you 👊
Pick up a shinemate EX 620/15…you will never use speed 6!! The EX 620/21 is even more of a beast. I never will need to use it over speed 4. Most of the time is speed 3 or 3.5.
Did you grease your backing plate,or did a washer mod?
@@DinoGrahovic I haven’t, would a thicker washer help? Would it help slightly or dramatically you think?
@@Ichabod_Jericho normal washer will get you a lot more spin. You can also add grease on top of the backing plate,and it is suggested by the rupes that it needs to have grease. I don't really know how to spell the name of the grease that is used,you can find it on Rupes video on maintaining polisher.
Everyone I know seems to hate koch polishes, me included. They had changed the formulation, especially on the h9/8 compounds. They simply can't cut, try on a german car. The f6 polish dust like crazy, never seen a polish work like that. Very disappointed. Megs in comparison is old school but they work, same Menzerna and they are cheaper
H9 doesn't do everything I want it to...it cuts a little weaker than I would like. But it works well with rotary (I use rupes coarse da on my dual action when compounding). I never found the sweet spot with f6. Have you tried this polish/pad/technique by chance? Its a little slow but I promise the results are there...m3 is in a league of its own as far as I'm concerned
@@HawkProDetailing koch pads are a bit expensive, 11/12€ each when I can get other european brands for 7-8€. I'm getting a rupes rotary very soon, but using the good old 105 with a hard pad gave a better finish and removed all the defects, while the h9 leaved tons of rids and swirls behind and the marring was terrible. The m3 was out of stock ( maybe I was lucky ), but i generally tend to finish with the Menzerna 2500, depending on the pad it gives good cutting and a great finish, can't find a difference with the 3500... It uses diminishing abrasives like sonax perfect finish, so it's a long cycle polish, perfect for one step... No dusting even when really hammered for minutes and with high humidity in Italy's summer... F6 seems to cut a bit more and in some paint leaves a better finish, but it's very tricky, for sure it's shorter as it dust like a old compound. I am a bit curious abouth 3d polishes, they seems even better than megs... Have you tried them?
M3 and purple pad my man! (You were hating on koch and haven't even tried these products 🙁)Worth the price, but they need to be cared for. If you hammer down or clean aggressively with pad washer/wash machine you will see them degrade faster. But use what works, so many different ways to get results
@@HawkProDetailing as i said it was unavailable and their pads cost 30/40% more 🙈 you get nice result with everything by todays polish's tecnology, some are pure rebrands, other make their own. That's where a detailing company shows their real value in my opinion.
@@LucaBonato 3D One is one of, if not not favorite polish. Works extremely well with MF pads. Good with foam pads as well. I do not like using it would wool pads, however. I dislike Menzerna…lol. To each their own.
True pro
Love it
Have you ever tried Scholl Concepts, Wolfgang Uber and Sonax?
Sonax perfect finish yes... but it's been years
@@HawkProDetailing Scholl with the new S2, Wolfgang Uber compound and Sonax set a standard that is above everyone else. These companies are not as recognized as they should be. For example, Wolfgang Uber with a wool pad will remove in one pass 1000 grits with a gloss left. I shake my head when I see some you tubers getting excited about a compound that can remove 1500 grits and above.
I hear you. To some extent...especially with defect removal, it's less about the compound and tool...and more about the person behind the polisher. However, there's a reason why the world's best golfers use the latest and greatest balls and clubs. Even skilled pros want to use the best stuff. I'm sure those products are super legit...lol at some point I like to find something that works and then stop searching. But I'm always down to try new stuff. Send me an email with links I'm down to try them. nick@hawkprodetailing.com
@@HawkProDetailing I will send you the links. Compounding and polishing are about efficiency. This requires the optimal system. The optimal system includes the right technician, products, and tools. Give me the Flex polishers, Scholl and Wolfgang products, Spider , megs micro fibers and LC pads, I'll move from 1000 grits defects to a Jewel gloss in 2 passes. It's laughable when I see some channel getting excited about a compound removing 2000 grits. And yet a company like Scholl is rarely reviewed or mentioned.
Nick, how many hours did you have in this detail?
Lol I don't wanna talk about it. My correction jobs are unfortunately NOT the example for profitable detailing. Probably 3-4 days of work so maybe 40 hours. Some say this makes me a "hobbyist" and not a "professional detailer" and I can accept the criticism as legit 🤷♂️
@@HawkProDetailing I understand. I was just curious because it's such a big vehicle and it was horribly swirled. Forget what the critics say and do what works for you.
Use a rotary to finish out
If you know how to use it you’ll finish way better
Been in the paint refinishing for decades
I've heard mixed opinions on this. Care to share your product pad and technique?
@@HawkProDetailing Hey Nick, just thought I would chime in on this. I like to finish with a rotary. I have had great results with Megs 205 and Perfect Finish with a Lake Country white pad. I never go above speed 2. Works great on everything I have tried it on so far. I don't do this for a living but I usually always have something I'm working on. Great job on the SUV!
Lovely.
I bet 24 hours it took from start to finish
Slow and steady for sure...I'm generally slow at most detailing tasks so this is likely maddening for some who need to work faster to be profitable. But it works that's all I know
@@HawkProDetailing I see no way of doing it faster any way .
Top job
Cheers!
@@HawkProDetailing Cheers !
8f you use a 21 long throw will get it done a lot fast never polish this slow only when cutting youo e that sliw
You’re a beast
Lol thank you sir 💪💪💪
M3.02 can produce great results but I wouldn't call it "the best" or that it gets it there 99% of the time. That's a bit of a reach.
Also no reason to add grey die to the product that stains pads.
KC products are getting the hype in the USA now. I bought a bunch of KC stuff when my wholesale retailer started carrying it. They are pretty good, but there's a bit of a price premium for them too. One that I don't think is really justified.
Perhaps I am missing something with how these are formulated which justifies the expense. But then that's a failure on KC's side for not explaining what is special about their formulas.
Have you tried the purple pad, super slow passes with medium pressure approach? It takes patience but it works almost every time, especially on piano trim. The exceptions here are very old paint, single stage, just oddball paint jobs. But on modern clear coat if you follow this procedure the results are fantastic
They're so similar to Menzerna.
That's probably why I didn't see what all the fuss was about.
HC400, MC2500, and SF3500 I've used for years. They always deliver and are much easier to wipe off than the Koch stuff.
I've recently found myself using more 3D than anything else these days. The more I use 3D ONE the more I'm learn from it.
I grab my 3D polishes more often than anything else these days.
Is this a paid promotion?
Nope, I kinda wish I got paid for videos lol. This is just me sharing what has worked after hundreds of hours behind a polisher with M3, specifically
@@HawkProDetailing Thank you for sharing. Its hard to differentiate who is getting paid to say something's good, and who is unbiased. I'm definitely giving this combo a shot! Currently I'm using meguiar DA 3 in 1 with their microfiber pads. Works great but if something out there is better... i'm in!
@@HawkProDetailing which color pad? Your links are not working on my computer. It's opening up a bunch of pop ups and add-on's. Thank you in advance!
Another KC sponsored video?
Ha! You and I both know I pay full price for the unicorn juice that is m3 🤣
Don't EVER talk in the 3rd person.
Instant down vote 👎🏼. You did it to yourself.
At the rate this clown is going, he should have this Tyoda(Earnhardt Jr.'s pronunciation of Toyota) polished out by 2023.
WORLD'S BEST POLISH...I DON'T think so...LOL.
What a waste of my time!!
Lol fair enough. I’m a slow and steady wins the race type of guy 😂😂😂