After I bought my HMR in 300wm, I had a few questions. I called Bergara, Here’s what I learned from a fellow reflecting a “So what?” attitude. Bergara claims “Remington pattern ” with their B14 series rifles. That applies only to the receiver . If you want to make changes, such as a 3rd party bottom metal, you can’t. Everything other than the receiver is proprietary to Bergara! The other source of confusion is “AICS Pattern” magazines. AICS “pattern” magazines is about the design, not the length. One might expect 300 Win Mag in an HMR “match” rifle, to have a match length magazine like the typical AICS 3.850. You would be wrong! The HMR uses Pmags regular AICS pattern Long Action magazine, which has a 3.53” max length. Depending on your intentions with a “Match” rifle, the short magazine could become a very severe handicap. And no. Bergara will not sell you a replacement bottom metal. Don’t drink the koolaid and do your homework before you buy!! I have no idea if they played word games with the short actions.
lol they have sidewinder and frontier lines (I have a frontier ffp) that are really high quality and developped for centerfire rifles, when on the market for a scope I was torn between the vortex viper pst and the hawke frontier ffp but went for the frontier ffp 4x20 since from my research it's at least as good for 850€
I’ve had it for almost 2 months now, also picked up a b14 308 the same week but haven’t shot it yet. That 300 did a unbelievable 4” 3 shot group on a steel silhouette at 1000 yards! I have a witness and photos lol
In my HMR 300 WM H4831 @ 74.0 and 200gr AB IMR 4831 @ 74.0 and 180 AB WLR primer WW Case Great loads and Great shooting rifle I would like to add a better Timney Trigger
Also, Icouldn't get the gun to zero, finally figured out, (after buying several types of ammo), where the drilling tool broke through drilling the holes in the brake, it left tiny, half moon shaped bits of steel hanging inside the brake contacting the round sending rounds all over the place.
@@nyca520 factory… many good options I’m a fan of Hornady Precision Hunter ELD X rounds. That being said trial and error is what you need. Some guns like certain ammo Also reloading is a great option It’s all expensive for the 300!
Ive been looking at going from my 308 to a 300 win mag and trying to decide between browning xbolt, sako s20, or this b14 hmr but ive heard the b14 hmr is real picky with ammo is that really the case? Using it for hunting mainly, not match
I had good luck with this one. Had some Remingtons and some reloads tailored to the gun. Try the hornady 300 win mag. www.hornady.com/ammunition/rifle/300-win-mag-200-gr-eld-x-precision-hunter#!/ It’s trial and error on some of this ammo.. which isn’t good news when you take a peek at prices.
I own this same rifle, took Down an elk with it 2 years ago. 335 yard shot. I shot Nosler 180 grain etip. Switching to SiG 190, because noslers etip are hard to find. My question to others who own this rifle. Can anyone recommend a backpack gun bearer for this rifle. I agree with all other commenters who say this thing is HEAVY but it shoot’s beautiful.
@@BendingBallisticsdepends on the wind and bullet. With a 180gr Hornady interlock sp, g1 bc of 0.425, going 2960fps with a full value crosswind of 20mph will push the bullet 5.7” at 200yds. I wouldn’t call almost six inches minimal. But then again that’s pretty extreme wind.
@Sparks00psn in extreme circumstances yes wind plays a variable, however in non extreme circumstances at 200 yards wind in minimal when it comes to shooting 200 yards typically bad fundamentals play a bigger role then the wind, proper breathing all the way down to a proper trigger squeeze. Most people practice bad fundamentals which leads to them not being an accurate shooter then blame the firearm vs their bad technique when in reality most modern rifles will out shoot the shooter the shooter just had poor or lacking fundamentals just my opinion
Raw: I have this rifle in the HMR Pro (yes, it’s way above my pay grade) however what’s your opinion on this scope you used? I’m looking for a FFP optic. Thanks! Cool video
I appreciate that! HMR PRO you say? 👍I was hoping to get a review of the scope we just haven’t been able to yet. I wasn’t able to put it to the test fully and utilize all the features although my opinion so far is…I like the scope glass was clear and it did well for us. Felt like it had a wide field of view and eye relief was great. 300win mag it better be. They have a lot of features and seem to be made well. I hope that helps some and I hope to do an in depth review on that bad boy!
I don’t think you would be disappointed with either. They are similar and you might save a tad on price going with the terrain. However if it was up to me I would go with the HMR. I love the stock and the adjustability, I feel you can get a solid and steady grip! Tough choice though!!
Hey, can you tell me overall length of that beauty with and without the muzzle brake attached? Because I am interested in this rifle, but my safe only allows for an OAL of 49inches/124,5cm.
I bought this rifle just a little bit ago, and im curious to know what factory ammo you have found to shoot well. I know bergara suggests the sig 190 grain match but what about hunting style bullets.
I’d go with the Eld-x from Hornady. Had good luck with em. I’d give them a go first. You’re gun may be like hell nah! I’ll leave a link to em for you To check out. Been hard to find. Academy had em www.hornady.com/ammunition/rifle/300-win-mag-200-gr-eld-x-precision-hunter#!/ Academy does have em currently The American hunter by them is bad either www.academy.com/p/hornady-eld-x%C2%AE-precision-hunter%C2%AE-300-win-mag-200-grain-rifle-ammunition
Bergara had problems with their muzzle brakes being too close to the round as it came out of the muzzle. It should be about 30,000 larger than the round. I believe that’s microns.
@@trumpie5399 Hey Man, does it jump at all? how is the felt recoil? I have a Savage Axis 308 on decent furniture, I'm hoping to get a break to make 300 WM equivalent or ideally even less than that.
I know a lot of people who hunt deer with the 300win mag. Its a pretty versatile round for different size game. You can mess with what works bullet grain wise for what and where you’re hunting and with a good shot placement you will save the meat!
Too heavy to carry hunting, edpecially at higher altitudes, and the magazine is a cheap pos. I had to buy a new $120 metal magazine just so it would cycle.
They are a tad on the hefty side! I havnt heard of anyone having problems with the mags but I’m sure it happens. You would think the company would be all over that.
@RawHawg I contacted Bergara about it and I was referred to the mag manufacturer, but, it was such a pain in the a** to deal with them I trashed the plastic mag and bought a steel one.
After I bought my HMR in 300wm, I had a few questions. I called Bergara, Here’s what I learned from a fellow reflecting a “So what?” attitude. Bergara claims “Remington pattern ” with their B14 series rifles. That applies only to the receiver . If you want to make changes, such as a 3rd party bottom metal, you can’t. Everything other than the receiver is proprietary to Bergara! The other source of confusion is “AICS Pattern” magazines. AICS “pattern” magazines is about the design, not the length. One might expect 300 Win Mag in an HMR “match” rifle, to have a match length magazine like the typical AICS 3.850. You would be wrong! The HMR uses Pmags regular AICS pattern Long Action magazine, which has a 3.53” max length. Depending on your intentions with a “Match” rifle, the short magazine could become a very severe handicap. And no. Bergara will not sell you a replacement bottom metal. Don’t drink the koolaid and do your homework before you buy!! I have no idea if they played word games with the short actions.
Definitely good information to have! Thanks for filling us in and thanks for watching!!
thank you, great video! and i purchased one of these so we shall see but very excited!
You are gonna love it! What cal? 300 I’m guessing?
That’s a beautiful rifle.
Makes me want to go buy one today.
They are pretty slick for sure!
Decent price
Nice air rifle scope that really pairs up well with a 300 mag 👍
In 2020 they turned the sidewinder over to a rifle scope loaded with features. It does seem to pair well as far as I can tell.
lol they have sidewinder and frontier lines (I have a frontier ffp) that are really high quality and developped for centerfire rifles, when on the market for a scope I was torn between the vortex viper pst and the hawke frontier ffp but went for the frontier ffp 4x20 since from my research it's at least as good for 850€
I bought my bergara hmr 300win used, but it's the best shooting rifle that's I've ever had
They shoot pretty dang good!
@@RawHawg oh yes, ground squirrels at 700 yards is fun with it
@@sterlingwilkey2124 you could sop em up with a slice of bread!!
My 300wm bergara at 100 yards is doing under 1/2 moa. Love it
Great Rifle and not to bad price point for all the features!
An how long have you had it?
I’ve had it for almost 2 months now, also picked up a b14 308 the same week but haven’t shot it yet. That 300 did a unbelievable 4” 3 shot group on a steel silhouette at 1000 yards! I have a witness and photos lol
@@brodyd4676 heck of a gun!
What scope do you have to get that moa at 1000yds
Mine comes in next week! Very excited!
Let me know how you like it!!
Next week came and went.....tell me how you like it
In my HMR 300 WM
H4831 @ 74.0 and 200gr AB
IMR 4831 @ 74.0 and 180 AB
WLR primer
WW Case
Great loads and Great shooting rifle
I would like to add a better Timney Trigger
Good stuff right there! ☝️☝️
Also, Icouldn't get the gun to zero, finally figured out, (after buying several types of ammo), where the drilling tool broke through drilling the holes in the brake, it left tiny, half moon shaped bits of steel hanging inside the brake contacting the round sending rounds all over the place.
Good lord that’s terrible. Spent a ton on ammo alone.
So what did you do?
@@RawHawgI’d hope buy a new brake. Not much else to do that’s worth doing.
I just got one yesterday. I'm very impressed, but man is it BIG! It's definitely not a carry around rifle.
Congrats on the purchase! It’s def not small or very light! With a good sling it can be reasonable on the back!
@@RawHawg I tossed it on the scale today. 13 lb 5 oz, unloaded.
@@thetobaccoguy1751 dang! Is that just the gun no optics or bipod?
@@RawHawg No, that's the full rig. Bipod and scope.
Great review! Awesome rifle! If you put water in the pumpkin, it'll explode better. Or tannerite! 😁
Shotgun review coming soon with various rounds. There will be some water filled pumpkins indeed!
Just bought 1, picking up today
Let me know how you like it and congrats
Thx, what ammo do you recommend?
Haven't fired it yet so I'm inquiring what's best
@@nyca520 factory… many good options I’m a fan of Hornady Precision Hunter ELD X rounds. That being said trial and error is what you need. Some guns like certain ammo
Also reloading is a great option
It’s all expensive for the 300!
Will advise
Thanks for the video. Liked and subscribed
Appreciate it! Thanks for watching!
Would you take this thing hunting? It’s a heavy rifle at 9.9 or some odd lbs
It’s a bit hefty but it can be done and it has a place. Although I have trouble packing around the .22 cricket
Ive been looking at going from my 308 to a 300 win mag and trying to decide between browning xbolt, sako s20, or this b14 hmr but ive heard the b14 hmr is real picky with ammo is that really the case? Using it for hunting mainly, not match
I had good luck with this one. Had some Remingtons and some reloads tailored to the gun.
Try the hornady 300 win mag.
www.hornady.com/ammunition/rifle/300-win-mag-200-gr-eld-x-precision-hunter#!/
It’s trial and error on some of this ammo.. which isn’t good news when you take a peek at prices.
Did the fluted bolt come with the rifle, or did you add that?
The fluted bolt comes with this rifle. It’s a great package with a ton of features!
I own this same rifle, took Down an elk with it 2 years ago. 335 yard shot. I shot Nosler 180 grain etip. Switching to SiG 190, because noslers etip are hard to find. My question to others who own this rifle. Can anyone recommend a backpack gun bearer for this rifle. I agree with all other commenters who say this thing is HEAVY but it shoot’s beautiful.
I wish I could help. Gotta be someone who has a suggestion. The thing is pretty hefty
Hello RawHawg. Are those Talley mounts? If so, do you like them?
Hello, Yes they are and they are solid. They have been a good purchase especially with the pounding of the 300
A rear bag would have helped. Wind also played a factor especially at 200 yards tho
No kidding! The the wind has been brutal for the past month here with a little bit of shooter error sprinkled on top….
Wind variables at 200 yards are very minimal...
@@BendingBallisticsdepends on the wind and bullet. With a 180gr Hornady interlock sp, g1 bc of 0.425, going 2960fps with a full value crosswind of 20mph will push the bullet 5.7” at 200yds. I wouldn’t call almost six inches minimal. But then again that’s pretty extreme wind.
@Sparks00psn in extreme circumstances yes wind plays a variable, however in non extreme circumstances at 200 yards wind in minimal when it comes to shooting 200 yards typically bad fundamentals play a bigger role then the wind, proper breathing all the way down to a proper trigger squeeze. Most people practice bad fundamentals which leads to them not being an accurate shooter then blame the firearm vs their bad technique when in reality most modern rifles will out shoot the shooter the shooter just had poor or lacking fundamentals just my opinion
The wind,...but im buying one in 300 win mag
Was It bad on the video or a bad excuse?
Raw: I have this rifle in the HMR Pro (yes, it’s way above my pay grade) however what’s your opinion on this scope you used? I’m looking for a FFP optic. Thanks! Cool video
I appreciate that! HMR PRO you say? 👍I was hoping to get a review of the scope we just haven’t been able to yet. I wasn’t able to put it to the test fully and utilize all the features although my opinion so far is…I like the scope glass was clear and it did well for us. Felt like it had a wide field of view and eye relief was great. 300win mag it better be. They have a lot of features and seem to be made well. I hope that helps some and I hope to do an in depth review on that bad boy!
Out of curiosity, what glass did you end up going with? I ordered my HMR last weekend, impatiently awaiting it's arrival. Lol.
I’m looking to purchase either the HMR are the Terrain which would you recommend
I don’t think you would be disappointed with either. They are similar and you might save a tad on price going with the terrain. However if it was up to me I would go with the HMR. I love the stock and the adjustability, I feel you can get a solid and steady grip! Tough choice though!!
@@RawHawg Thank you going to get the HMR
Hi..nice review..Hvad model Hawke scope is on the rifle...?
Thank you! Here’s the scope with a subtraction or two.
us.hawkeoptics.com/sidewinder-30-ffp-6-24x56-ffp-half-mil.html
Hey, can you tell me overall length of that beauty with and without the muzzle brake attached? Because I am interested in this rifle, but my safe only allows for an OAL of 49inches/124,5cm.
It’s overall is 47.5 inches. Should clear, if need the muzzle brake can save an inch and the butt pads. Good luck
@@RawHawg wow thank for the quick answer. That helped a lot!
Feds: "Roger quick, look up which safes have those dimensions!"
Will this gun shoot hunting ammo to match grade ammo good? I bought the same gun 300 win mag
We had some reloads we shot fmj and some Remington core locks.
Had real good luck with hornady precision hunter ELXs
@@RawHawg I bought some hornady American whitail 180 grain and Winchester deer season also 180 grain hopefully it shoots great with these two bullets
@@ericeverson6822 I bet one of those will be fine. If your testing i would take a look at the ELDXs shoot a group with em. Good luck
@@RawHawg thanks man does barrel twist have to do if they will like a heavier bullet or doesn’t it matter
I bought this rifle just a little bit ago, and im curious to know what factory ammo you have found to shoot well. I know bergara suggests the sig 190 grain match but what about hunting style bullets.
I’d go with the Eld-x from Hornady. Had good luck with em. I’d give them a go first. You’re gun may be like hell nah! I’ll leave a link to em for you To check out. Been hard to find. Academy had em
www.hornady.com/ammunition/rifle/300-win-mag-200-gr-eld-x-precision-hunter#!/
Academy does have em currently
The American hunter by them is bad either
www.academy.com/p/hornady-eld-x%C2%AE-precision-hunter%C2%AE-300-win-mag-200-grain-rifle-ammunition
@@RawHawgthank ya, I appreciate it.
@@acesonflush346 no prob! I meant the American hunter isn’t bad either. Good luck to you
I have the hmr premier in 300 win mag. I found that the 180 grain Hornaday superformance sst works well, in my rifle at least.
Great video. Maybe some Tannerite filled pumpkins????? 😎
That’s two people who suggested that. I’m going to have to step up my pumpkin destruction game!!
I just ordered the 308 version of this. What bipod setup is that? Thanks in advance.
Nice! You’ll love it! I can’t remember I think it was a Caldwell set up!
Bergara had problems with their muzzle brakes being too close to the round as it came out of the muzzle. It should be about 30,000 larger than the round. I believe that’s microns.
I haven’t heard anything. Was the problem on this model? I may need to check it out. As far as I know no issues with this one.
I have had no issues with my HMR in 300 WM with the Bergara Omin brake
Very accurate and shoot with one hand off bipod ……
@@trumpie5399 Hey Man, does it jump at all? how is the felt recoil? I have a Savage Axis 308 on decent furniture, I'm hoping to get a break to make 300 WM equivalent or ideally even less than that.
8:30😂that’s two for flinching
I guess
Not the wind.Your bech set up and technique are what needs changing! And , possibly,the rifle may not like that particular load.
👍
Where is the rear bag?
What you mean by rear bag?
Do you think this cartridge would be good for elk as well as whitetail? Or do you think it’s overkill for whitetail?
I know a lot of people who hunt deer with the 300win mag. Its a pretty versatile round for different size game. You can mess with what works bullet grain wise for what and where you’re hunting and with a good shot placement you will save the meat!
do something with your mik
Yeah it was pretty bad back then although we’ve improved for sure. At least I hope
Too heavy to carry hunting, edpecially at higher altitudes, and the magazine is a cheap pos. I had to buy a new $120 metal magazine just so it would cycle.
They are a tad on the hefty side! I havnt heard of anyone having problems with the mags but I’m sure it happens. You would think the company would be all over that.
@RawHawg I contacted Bergara about it and I was referred to the mag manufacturer, but, it was such a pain in the a** to deal with them I trashed the plastic mag and bought a steel one.
uninformative. Bad!
If you didn’t like me shooting tannerite in the concrete container around 8-10 min mark you’re crazy..
@@RawHawg My friend, everyone shoots like that, without optics, drunk. 8 minutes of cotton wool riding.
@@user-re9jc2ve1c going to try it sober in the follow up. Thanks for watching
@@user-re9jc2ve1cwtf are you on about m8?
So this is a long action? and what Bipod is on this?? I just ordered this last night!!
Oh yes it’s the long action. You are going to love that thing of ya an amazing rifle.
You get the 300 win mag
@@RawHawg I sure did! thnaks
@@patriot7734 👍