I beat Path of Exile for the first time ever
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@Zizaran is one of the most popular streamers for the game that constantly makes content for new palyers and returning players all the time. Maybe podcast time so you can provide the new player perspective and he can guide through it.
@@Enzorn84Zizaran is good, but I would recommend Palsteron personally. He writes his guides and makes his videos in a way that makes me feel like I understand the mechanics as well as he does. Very noob friendly (in so far as PoE can be noob friendly).
yep , follow a build dude , subtractem has a great elementalist if u wanna go that route , but obvs there are solid necro/occult builds as well , and thats IF u want to stay with the witch =] ; ive been thinking about checking out the new chieftan , since i missed the last few leagues
For covering such a complex and deep game in such good detail I'll help with the only error I found in your review.
You can absolutely trade without premium stash tabs. You just can't advertise what you're selling on the path of exile trade website. The trade channels work perfectly well for buying and selling, although the PoE trade site and premium stash tabs is the best way to advertise what you're selling.
Also - in this league, at least, you can buy respecs in town with gold, which isn't a special item
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"I beat Path of Exile for the first time ever"
... You mean you finished the tutorial
I came here to comment just this
Exactly lol
hahaha
Massively true
Finish the tutorial is reaching 1k hours..
POE is like cooking in that if you don't know how to cook and just do random things in the kitchen its probably gonna go poorly and you probably have to find a cookbook or get someone to teach you. This doesn't make cooking not a rewarding thing and once you have mastery improvising becomes much more doable
This analogy is spot on
As someone who was a professional chef in his youth, this is the absolute perfect real world analogy for this game. Bravo!
Welcome, Exile!
You beat the tutorial.
How cool is that the game world is called Wraeclast - an Old English word which translates to "Path of Exile"?
I love when he said "30 hours" and I looked at my 4500 hours and thought "Oh you poor sweet summer child"
@@saviourself687 LOL right? ive been playing 6 years and still dunno shit LOL
@@stephanpaul8954 I've played since 2013 and still find out new things all the time, it's insane.
3k here
Fun fact - the exile on the beach is the only NPC you can optionally save. If you don't talk to him, he never gets eaten by the zombie.
First time i played, i went past him, saw some zombies, went back to him and said hell nah, this guy lying down will wake up
if you dont want a skillgem, sure.
Well you can kill Hillock with auto attack. Then it's just a matter of farming enough to buy a gem to Nessa. No benefit there though. Maybe it could be an achievement.
also wrong, you can save the scion. among others ... where are these dingbats coming from who don't know anything about the game?
@@johnturtle6649 I really had no idea what you were talking about, so I looked it up and the scion does appear in the campaign! I never saw her cause I have been playing since beta, so she never showed up in mine.
this guy knows more about the story in one playthrough than i do after hundreds
I was just thinking this. I was sitting there going "wait....his hands are lumps? Wait...where do you even learn this!?" I suppose it would help if I didn't skip every bit of dialogue possible trying to rush endgame to be competitive in the market XD
True I have almost 5k hours played. And he knows more about the story than I do 😂
Dude. I am THOUSANDS of hours in and didn't even know Brutus' hands were a result of him beating the walls to try and get out. I thought he was just fucked up, lol.
@@D4z3D lol me neither and I used to take my time and read EVERY piece of lore back in Oriath league when the current campaign was introduced
It's great until halfway into A4. After that it becomes worse than dogpoo.
I’m in the same boat. This was my first time giving this game a fair handshake with a guide and everything. Now lvl 87 pushing tier 10 maps and above figuring out my favorite league mechanics so far are blight, rituals, and essence. They got me
Your journey has just begun friend. Welcome. We have thousands of hours in this game and are still always experimenting and learning new things!
Blight has been a real godsend this league.
The real endgame is trying to get flicker strike to work.
Flicker Strike? Try Tornado Shot Lightning Warper, or your average 'looper 😅
@@FayeAldridgeWard is still an eldritch entity that I will never understand.
Faaaaaaacts
Flicker boys assemble
Dog, you have no idea how hard I'm trying to make a Red Trail self bleed flicker as a gladiator.
Premium stash tabs for free would just be a field day for trade bots.
now that you mention it yeah , i can see it ruin the economy like lost ark
Fair point.
the developers have a phrase that i like that they have repeated multiple times which is "once you have reached maps, we own your soul"
I've spent, not lying, about 2000 dollars on this game. And I dont think I've spent more than its value. I have lots of awesome cosmetics. More premium tabs than I'll ever need. And a deep trust in the company that has made this game to hold to their values. May they never sell out, or be bought out.
Edit: that's .57 cents per hours that I've played. Money well fucking spent.
@@ItCameFromTheSkyBeLo anything at about 50 cents per hour is good value in my opinion. i have spent waaaay more money in poe than in any other game and still that cost per hour is well below 50 cents.
@@ItCameFromTheSkyBeLo they are now owned by tencent, but tencent isn't actually that bad, cause they only care that they get money, they're not dumb so they don't meddle much with the studios. (as often interference with a profitable studio just results in loss of revenue.)
@@ItCameFromTheSkyBeLo anything even under 5/h is a pretty great cost value, i mean go out to a movie, to a bar for drink, whatever almost any activity to entertain ourself gonna cost 5+ easily
just you cant say it's free ^^
an actual fair pricing on what's rly needed wouldnt be to much to put
@ItCameFromTheSkyBeLo not to mention unlike say CoD nearly EVERYTHING carries to the next game
The game goes like this:
- You get it for free
- You finish tutorial(campaign)
- You pay for the game by buying stash tabs(currency tab first)
- You keep playing
Nah.
1. Get it for Free
2. Finish campaign
3. Roll new characters and beat campaign until bored
4. uninstall
5. Play grim Dawn or Last Epoch instead.
@@joshfoss7407 Well, obviously you gonna get bored if you don't engage with endgame(actuall game) content.
Grim Dawn is pretty pog
i just bought currency tab lol ^^ lvl 90.
@@joshfoss7407 What is this logic?
@@Edge9404 the logic is that rinse repeating blinking through maps is the lowest quality form of gameplay in an ARPG. It's basically an idlegame. "Endgame" content is generally terrible in most RPGs - even otherwise good ones. If it's not part of the organic flow of the game, I have no interest in it.
I'm 2500 hours in and I have no idea whats going on. 10/10
Ok, that one got me xD
4200 here and same
this! couldn't build myself a good item if my life depended on it :D
6k and all hc and ssfhc, but now the game isn't fun unless I play ssfhc so I get to red maps and then quit a char typically
3000h, can do next to zero crafting.
the stash tabs have never really bothered me for two reasons, the first is that upgrading an existing tab is $1.50, and they have sales on the stash tabs literally every month. I didn't buy a single one of the special tabs for full price. I bought the $20 first blood pack that has some cosmetics and $20 worth of points, while they were on sale I got all the tabs I could have needed for hundreds of hours, So I consider the game to be try for free, $20 for full experience, granted I've spent much more than that willingly by now lol.
Supporter packs give you the cosmetics plus all the value in coins.
See for POE vets. The build planning, resetting, mistakes, semi permanent choices, complexity is the charm. Almost like the difficulty of Soulsbornes.
If you appeal to everyone you appeal to nobody
Failing is desired
I think there's some middle ground between the complexity and systems bloat of POE and trying to be accessible to everyone. Presumably GGG agrees and is in large part why we have POE2.
slight correction: the POSSIBILITY of failure is desired. This allows the players to enjoy the process of NOT failing. They either feel well informed (through guides) or like geniuses (if they crafted a build that actually works).
@@Matt-gf4gd the middle ground is good tutorials and removing unneeded annoyances like gear having gem slots instead of it just being a separate system but GGG will never hand hold.
@@Deminese2thank god the poe 2 gems only need supports directly added to gems themselves.
@@Matt-gf4gdif you think poe2 is going to be more casual friendly youre going to be very disappointed. remember the lead developer in poe2 is jonathan, the guy if given his way would make ruthless ssf as default and only way to play.
A good thing is that a lot of GGG's staff plays the game. Like Mark the lead lead game designer play the game a lot and was a player before working there and so on. Compare that to other companies...
They are already using some things from PoE2. This current league is based on PoE2 worlbuilding. The town you build is a hub/town in PoE2 so you are basically building it now and it's becomes a real town after a few years. Most of the assets used in Kalguur is assets from PoE2. Gold is also something they added in PoE2 and did not exists before in PoE1
PoE is the pinnacle of ARPG complexity.
Even a veteran of ARPG will get overwhelmed at first.
You absolutely need to set small goals and once you've done it, move on to bigger ones, step by step.
For this league, I would first focus on building the city. That's fun in itself without the need to progress the atlas and kill pinnacle/uber bosses.
1k hours in and im still learning so many new things and i looking forward to learning more
The thing is, PoE really isn't that complex. It's just layered and deep. There is not a single mechanic in the game that is truly difficult to figure out, but there are so many mechanic, each with its own sub-mechanics.
@@sujimayneim still trying to figure how Betrayal works after 3.5k hours in it
Calling poe "complex" is being waay too kind, and even naive.
POE is the pinnacle of over exageration in a game, the sensation of being overwhelmed never leaves you soul unless you turn into one of the mentaly unbalanced people who live and breathe this game 24/7 non stop just to study every bit of it completely. Wich i find not heathy to any human being, like at all.
been playing since beta, and when it comes to crafting, I learn new things all the time
Guild Wars 2 and Path of Exile are two games that go really well together and they've been my two main games for years. With both now having an about quarterly release cadence and both not demanding all of your time always, it's really easy to go back and forth with every new release and just play the parts I enjoy for as little or as much as I want.
Both games offer a lot when it comes to trying out different builds, even within the same class, and where poe gives me the satisfaction of turning my character into a god and blasting entire screens of enemes within a fraction of a second all on my own, gw2 is designed from the ground up to bring people together and makes it super easy to find groups of 50+ people to fight a huge world boss.
me too doing it for 8 years now. when it comes to the microtransction: in GW2 everything in the game you can buy just playing or grinding the game, and in POE it's fair. both games are excellent games even for casual players, don't have to be a hardcore gamer. both games are fun and very good value for the money.
Ditto. Wish PoE had the ease of build templates and lack of death penalty GW2 has but I realise they're just two very different but excellent games.
Path of Exile is a game made for Path of Exile players. Like the name of the company suggests, Grinding Gear Games has made a game for grinding gears. It's a game made by fans for fans and there's no other company like it. Is it perfect? No. Nothing is. But it's perfect for the PoE fans. And in the end... Isn't that what matters most?
"made a game for grinding gears" That hasn't been true for a long time!
Grinding gears? 99% of loot is trash
@@Venvaneless My loot aint trash
@@ahmedbadreddinemoucouf3662 currency doesn't count, that is balanced around T17 masochists anyway. 99% of loot and uniques in PoE is trash, you either use a good unique until they nerf it or you craft (if you have time for it) your own. Find me one usable yellow that is worth something even after campaign, except rare cases of fractured bases, I'll wait. And some better uniques in a 12-year old game except Mageblood & Headhunter, Defiance, Nimis, the newly buffed boots and a Coil. Considering all the uniques ppl paid for (god forbid GGG does their own job) the amount of good uniques is trash.
@@Venvaneless Skill issue
It's a common misconception that you're required to purchase a premium tab to list items for sale. Log in to Path of Exile's official website, navigate to the league's post on their forums, and create your own listing. There you can link any item in your stash - doesn't matter if premium or not - and the item(s) will show up on the trade site. This is also the only way to list something for sale while you wear it on a character simultaneously, which is actually extremely useful.
Stay sane Exile!
What the hell? I didn't know that 2.5k hours in. Lmao Thanks!
@@tdcfc That how it used to be, everyone did it. Was hell on earth getting the gear you wanted and usually was an auction for the best items.
Thanks ill try that. I bought "currency" stash and feels like i need to learn something new soon in poe. Maybe buying and selling items. :)
damn, its the 2013 way
There are two types of people in this world. One opens the Poe skill tree and says Wtf and /uninstall. The other type of person opens the passive tree for the first time and elicits a maniacal "YESS finally." ... I'm in the later category and POE has entered my top 5 games of all time and the very first example of a live service game actually done right. I've played this game for a decade at this point and I've spent less money on it than my last AAA purchase. It's a little tight but its absolutely possible to play the entire campaign with the free storage space they give you as well. I would say there monetization is entirely reasonable.
Same here man now i understand the tree and it feels so good
I loved the sphere grid in Final fatasy X, so When I first opened the passive tree, I immediately thought it was awesome.
It's actually genius how monetization actually works in this game, they give you the full product and if you like it you can invest into it. And most ppl get hooked on the creative freedom, absolute absurd amounts of content and how fun the learning is, after 1000+ hours you still go, "huh....so that's how that works"
I spent thousands in PoE over the years and I regret nothing.
I am at the point where openning skill tree now gives me a good kind of frustration rather than anxiety.
Like, "dang it, i wisb I had 3 more points to path into this node which could give me more damage to make it feel better, but wait, if I specced out of this node wouldn't this just brick my entire build? How about that #&#)! unique jewel I haven't even heard of before? Wouldn't that solve my whole problem? What?! It drops of a goddamn UBER version of that boss I am so bad against?!
10/10
One little detail that made me appreciate the shop and GGGs philosophy: When you buy a supporter pack, you also get the coins that your money would be worth when buying coins the normal way. So you get the coins AND what feels like almost free awesome MTX. When I first bought a supporter pack I didn't know and didn't realize that fact, so I was absolutely baffled. I just wanted to support GGG and buy some cool MTX, and they are like "Have your coins as well as a thank you". I never spent money in an MTX shop with this much confidence before...every single season.
Yeah. The price of armor looks insane but it's tempered by the fact that you essentially double dip: you spend $50 or whatever on a supporter pack, which comes with $50 worth of things, and then also $50 worth of coins that you can spend on other things. It's odd, but nice once you realize it.
and so, the rabbit hole grows deeper.
Do rabbits even dig holes? I've never seen them dig a hole.
Maybe there's video evidence of rabbit digging hole.
Going down the rabbit hole of rabbit holes.
Just to do short (xdd) notes to help understand endgame story of our characters for last 11 years:
- (we) found atlas of worlds and masters that give us missions
- Zana helps (us) with Atlas because evil presence of shaper shapes it by it's will against us
- Shaper is Zana's dad (we) stop him but...
- Shaper is lesser evil working uneillingly for Elder the cosmic eldritch horror that eats emotions and (we) have to stop him
- (We) Elderslayers do
- Oh shit Elderslayers (not us but kinda us) went mad with power after Zana locked them in the Atlas we have to stop them because we opened the atlas, we beat them but...
- Zana's (ex-)boyfriend elderslayer presumed dead disintegrates Oriath to feel something vecause he is emo like that, we stop him but Oriath is gone
-Zana leaves because she's emo like that and Kirac is new Zana with different missions and store!
- Hey slaying elder made an eldritch sized power vacuum here comes Maven an eldritch horror child, we have to entertain her to figure out how to beat her and so...
- We beat her, she apologizes but that power vacuum called more eldritch adult horrors like Exarch and Eater so we have to help her get rid of them. And so we do and that's where we are now.
- we were also: playing autochess with karui legends in afterlife, found out innocence is a fraud who got divinity by being a cult leader, old masters betrayed us because one of them made them immortal and now they are syndicate, we stole some stuff from safes, had fun spring with robots that made enemies drop more stuff, were in a mirror-land, pumped some infection out of the land to get oil, entered alternative reality of DEMONS EVERYWHERE in three flavours, did some digging deep underground and archaeology with dynamite, had some fever dreams and voices in our head, played pokemon, opened some chests, grew some plants, beaten the fuck out of blue man group, went back in time to steal from aztecs, killed the demonofied aztec queen with 6 tits 4 hands and more gold than god, did some emperor labyrinths to ASCEND, built a memory palace of a TEMPLAR HITLER so he can remember it's time for GENOCIDE, busted some ghosts and other demons that have nothing to do with DEMON REALITY these are just otherworldly and have 5 flavours instead, built some nemesis and archnemesis just to realise it was a mistake, told aztec apostle of chaos god "I'd win" and runned around the circle, read some cards, read some prophecies, buried people so their spirits can make us some sick shoes and finally built a town of kingsmarch. Also fishing?
Edit: we also helped karui slave finish his phd in anatomy
Not sure i saw metamorph in your description of league events.
Wish they brought back synth mapping of they toned down the amount of off screen shots. I didn't hate the mechanics, i hated the monsters.
Also worth mentioning the ffa events and bringing gold coins to a dude to buy his shit after we kill a bunch of golden enemies.
@@ferinzz right i knew there was something missing time to edit
we also did dodgy dealings with a fat man in gold armor, killed beasts to get talismans that summoned bigger beats to get bigger talismans, killed gathered organs to build frankenstines to help Tane. There was some weird thing about rampaging which we'd like to forget about. And once upon a time played with dark shrines outside of lab.
We danced in tempests that gave us magic powers, and followed an online map to fight War Bands. GGG got bored and wanted to throw everything together, build your own adventure and we played legacy for 5 months (i still regret not getting that portal).
Probably still some stuff missing
@@pauldudley1273 definitely stuff is missing but there was so much it probably doesn't matter anymore
@@GRIMHOOD99 i really enjoyed your recap.
overwhelming as a new player but with guidance, truly a gem of a f2p game.
GOAT f2p
ive spent 2k on a f2p game and do not regret a dim
@@Rancid_mayonnasie I've spent 2k on WoW probably just on new expansions and subscriptions over the years. Compared to the maybe 1k i spent on PoE, I wouldnt waste a second about thinking if spending money on PoE was a waste or not. Because it certainly was not.
Without extra tabs this game becomes so cringe so fast .... Even with currency tab, essency tab and card tab i am constantly filled with good stuff that is not worth to npc. And that is in trade league where you can let your crap go away for 1c no problem.
30:50 - ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
We are very similar, this is my first time really going through POE. I’ve tried it in the past and dropped off because I didn’t use a guide or I bricked a character.
I’m married with a 4 month old th old baby and I’m on act 7 almost act 8, the game is incredible. There is definitely a lot of systems and like you I’ve spent a lot of time with them but I think that’s to prep you for the end game. Being able to tailor the end game to content you want to play is such a good feature.
I’m also playing a witch and a minion build
I think going with minions is the easiest way for a beginner to get to the end game, you just pick everything tagged with "minion" and rest into survivability, so minions attract most of damage to themselves while running everywhere and doing an ok damage while you just stand there pressing buttons. XD can be very glitchy on slower PCs tho
Heck not sure how many hours I have in this game but still when I get frustrated from being oneshot in the maps I tend to go back to minions, my recent favorite was bow blink arrow minions build.
I also never copy peoples builds, just peek into them from time to time to go "oooh, so thats why he chose this, clever"
A fun little fact about the Immortal Syndicate: it was actually a way for GGG to retire an old system of providing crafting options for players, and many of the syndicate members (Haku, Vegan, Elreon, Catarina, etc.) were "masters" you'd find in zones and do quests for, in exchange for favor to get hideout decorations, items, or crafting options.
Bro i completely forgot about that haha
"I beat Path of Exile"
Oh, my sweet summer child. You beat the first section of the tutorial. It's insane how deep this game is.
As a SC trade player I can say with a decent level of conviction that the real experience is SSF. It drives you to engage with more mechanic and interactions and in greater depth. Of that includes those you simply dont find fun, so I passed on that. But if you are looking for the in depth experience SSF is where it is at.
7k hour player here - I started out playing PoE many years ago as a hardcore player (because I am a hardcore gamer, right? So I need to play the game the hardest way possible ;) ) I have since transitioned to softcore after a couple years of dead characters and frustration over barely hitting maps/dying when things "just start to get interesting".
Hearing you talk about 'past knowledge (9:20) made me realise, that me starting as a hardcore player forced me to try again and do better each time, meaning I essentially sped up the process of me trying different strategies, which helped me learn the game and gave me a lot of past knowledge to draw from.
I know this wall of text might not be interesting to most ppl, but as I sat here, listening to you telling me that the game is hard and very overwhelming to new players - Thinking to myself, "cmon bud, it's not THAT overwhelming" - I realise that I too struggled alot in the beginning, but dying and starting over was literally 'THE GAME' for me and my friends back then, and by the time we reached maps and the endgame, (btw, this was back when there were 3 acts in total.. xD) we had basically mastered the journey. Always gradually getting better - every death leading to new experimentations and new information about the game, the skill tree and the skill gems etc. (btw, this was back when there were 3 acts in total.. xD)
Chris has consumed another soul. Welcome! Been playing for 10 years still learning new things every league.
I'm at 350 hours and don't know anything!
Obligatory "Hi, im Chris Wilson from Grinding Gear Games"
@@hulkhogansgianttaint9451 im at 750, still know nothing but more than some people at 2000 because i play ssf
@@hulkhogansgianttaint9451 I'm at about 10k hours and know slightly more than nothing. And new shit keeps popping up every league.
TBH, Path of Exile is perfectly fine for casual players. People just need to be more willing to fuck up, make mistake, learn from them, and then apply it to the next attempt. I feel too many people try researching and learning too much too quickly, and THAT is what is overwhelming. But if you just play the game, fuck up, and figure out how stuff works 1 step at a time, it's very consumable and build a more basic foundational understanding. It's slow, but there is a reason people can be at 20k+ hours and still learning new things.
Yup, if you play blind with no guide, and you beat the campaign, that is a great effort!
Exactly. PoE has so many mechanics and stuff going on that one could make it a legitimate uni course. But 95% of that can be stripped away and it's still a fun game, while spreading out those missing 95% over a frame of time that is much more manageable.
learning is so much beautiful in this game.
I have two modes when I sit down to play PoE.
In one, I have a squad of similarly pumped friends and we attack the new league day 1, rushing from the start. Coordinating our atlas strats and builds, covering everything and trying to reach new heights in a three-week frenzy of active gameplay.
And the other, where I pop into a league mid season and just dink around, take two weeks just to clear the campaign, and try out stupid little builds that will never get posted anywhere.
Both are great fun, always.
We got him, boys!
Once you reach Maps, you unknowingly sell your soul to Chris.
Also, we long time players love to watch you learn mechanics, so feel free to take us on that journey as well; be it a stream or a video (series).
na mark is my new king 👑
Something I love about poe is while its super complex, you dont actually have to understand all of it or even close to all of it to have a good time. I have 500 hours in the game and have had a blast with endgame without really understanding the deeper crafting/league mechanic craft stuff.
I heartily suggest getting Path of Building. Being able to import your character and see how different things contribute to your damage and defense really helps.
it seems overwhelming to set it up :/
@@Kihera-zd8re It definitely is, I've lost count of how many videos I've watched explaining all of PoBuilding's mechanics. Why many in the community suggest starting with well rated build guides. I still don't feel like I'm using it to it's full potential, but it has made making builds and enjoying the game a lot easier. And like many things, the more you use it, the better you get at it.
POE players love a challenge. Most of us play it in the same way we play roguelikes. Fail again and again until you understand enough to succeed. Then you try to find other ways to succeed
Great way to describe it
I didn't know you were cooking this video for us. I mentioned GGG and PoE so many times talking about DE and Warframe, that they are the only games in the present that i can waste money without hurting my conscience, cause i know that both of the companies will use the money in a good way for the game again.
Subbed not only because this is a great video about one of my favorite games ever, but for that sick ABR shirt
Wisdom is the offspring of suffering and time.. great line and pretty aptly describes poe lol
"There is a fine line between consideration and hesitation, the former is wisdom, the latter is fear"
Izaro the philosopher of Wreaclast
learning PoE is like smashing your face against a concrete wall. After a while you give up because your head hurts and you're covered in your own blood, but then you come back around again and you realize there's cracks in the wall and you think "huh, maybe I will actually get somewhere if I keep smashing my face into this."
once you beat the campaign and see the atlas and its tree, you realize you have 8 years of endgame content in front to you to discover
it's all just the same garbage after the campaign is over.
@@joshfoss7407 garbage, how so ? POE dev have so much passion, the endgame bosses are amazing, what live service game do you consider not garbage?
@@sonof2636 I didn't say the game was garbage, I said the endgame content is garbage. You're just playing the same thing over and over and the reward is you get to do it faster.
@@joshfoss7407thats literally just arpgs, you just described the genre
@@lakie92 no, that's bad/lazy ARPGs. Diablo 2 and Grim Dawn give you a NG+ which is a far better experience than just grinding dungeons endlessly like POE. Better than both of those would be a campaign that just took you to max level in a single run, so that beating the game actually meant something instead of apologizers saying it's just a "tutorial" for maps.
Just as a note about the stash tabs for newer players. They go on sale every 3 weeks there's even a tracker for it you can look up. Its also a lot cheaper to buy the upgrades for your starting stash tabs than to buy whole new tabs. Your most essential tabs going in to endgame are going to be currency and maps and at least one premium or upgraded stash tab. Next would be Fragments and Essences. Followed by divination card, flask, gem, unique, and then the other league specific tabs like blight, deli, and ultimatum.
Blight and essence tabs are "pay to win" in that they allow you to upgrade resources to the next tier but its not super important starting out.
How is it pay to win to reduce the upgrade pathway for currencies by like 2 clicks?
You do know all vendors perform the same upgrade service right? The stash tab just means you don't have to take the currency to the vendor which in your hideout.. is likely to be standing next to your stash
You can upgrade essences and oils just by selling them 3 to 1 to any vendor. No tab required, they just give you extra QoL.
Seeing some new player says "I beat POE" reminds me of watching my child kick the ball on goal once and thought he won the world cup
The thing I love most about GGG is that they're not afraid to try new things either. The league system is the very essence of that, they use this to quite wildly shift the way the game is played, from adding tower defence, rogue-lite, monster collecting, Crop farming, build your own map, infinite dungeons. These ideas they put into leagues don't always work but the fact they're willing to risk something not working in order to try something new is something special. Even with the failures a lot of them have been reworked several times and gone back into the game in new ways.
When i opened the skilltree for the first time i thought this will be great. It still is over 10 years later.
Exactly, i found the game by seaching "game with big skill trees" and i honestly though the tree was fake.
As a new player I've spent the last 2 months experimenting and enjoying the game. There are still much to learn, but it is fun.
as someone that has spend way to much time on path of exile. I think there are 2 approaches to get into it, go 100% blind and take it 1 step at a time, ignore most of the tree just to not get overwhelmed. OR go full in watch few guides, follow a build guide to not get overwhelmed and fall in love with the endgame once reached.
The beauty of POE is that once your burnt out, you can quit, then totally miss a few leagues, then jsut turn up and get right back into it but with fresh items and builds etc. POE2 looks amazing I really hope they crack it.
Premium stash tabs are needed for trading to minimize* bots and scammers because its a free game
The stash tabs being the Box Price is definitely a feeling, and the other thing is Every League, the first weekend after launch stash tabs go on sale.
He finally tried it! POE is amazing, my favourite f2p game next to Warframe.
Hell yeah
I would go as far as to say that they are the only 2 really good ones on the market exluding shooters.
putting POE and Warframe in same sentence feels so wrong to me , i played both warframe and POE since 2012 , and warframe content pipeline is still a mess you get random stuff they feel like once a year , and DE then proceds to make a new game where it learns almost nothing from the previous game , while Path of exile keeps putting out banger after banger , while doing a game more ambitious than elden ring on the background , its pretty obvious why warframe stopped growing 6 years ago , and path of exile keeps beating record player numbers , DE just does not improve the core game enough , POE always makes sure the new content is not 90% of the changes and that the core game gets large changes too
@@MrRafagigapr POE isn't perfect you know, it has flaws of its own, as does WF. I love both games for their strengths, they're both great games to me that I always return to, I have 10k hours in WF and 4k in POE respectively. I love them, not just as f2p titles but as games in general.
@MrRafagigapr that's fair, but both games are worth playing
been playing since 2012 and i love seeing new players discover the beauty of this game, also made me laugh when he said he just finished the story and is starting the early end game... just you wait :D
Welcome.
GGG stole another soul hahaha
You hit the nail on the head. Path Of Exile is a journey, not a destination and over time you will pick up on different aspects of the game that will make it just that much easier.
I've played over 2000 hours and I'm still picking things up.
Welcome to the PoE community!
I hope u have a blast with the game and do try to experiment alot.
As for content creators who can help u, look up Zizaran's content, he has entire video series about how to learn the game(the PoE university series) and will even make a build for u if u ask.
Fun tip… the town is a POE 2 and new pirate boss are POE 2 bosses. Enjoy the soft beta :-) for PoE 2!!
Source: trust me bro
@@MrGruxLike you just need to watch POE 2 clips to see its the same town. Also the devs stated they already introduced bosses from POE 2 such as the Sanctum boss. But with toned down mechanics.
@@MrGruxLike Kingsmarch is literally the main town in PoE2 and you are "helping" building it in this season mechanic.
That's really cool they're doing it that way. I sort of figured cuz it's such a different league. I love it though except a ton of lag rn.
@@napsolo3453 ah, pretty cool then
Brother, as someone who's been playing POE for almost 7,000 hours...THANK YOU for such an indepth dive into your experience with POE. I was glued from beginning to end! For me, this is a beloved game and it always puts a smile on my face when a new player comes in and crushes their goals. Great job!
No problem!
The thing I like the most about POE is even if you follow a build guide you can still make tweaks to it to make it your own because of the way skill gems work.
It truly is how you learn, I’ve bricked many guide builds by thinking I’m smarter than the guy who plays three times as much as me
@@Thermascorch Exactly, and i will do it again, and again until that is true.
what they've shown for the POE 2 character select is the literal best one I've ever seen and by far my favorite. Been playing POE on and off for years now, and I just put in $20 for a single cape that I wanted. I've spent probably a total of $40 on this game now, and god damn do I not care that I only got a single item for my purchase. I got a cool looking cape, but I got to support the devs that actually give a fuck about their game and players. I'll be going hard on POE 2, and will definitely be spending more when it comes around.
1:47 Just wait until you find Izaro.
Yeah, Izaro's voicelines are so cool. The voice actor is godly and the quotes are too
Sirus > all
Oooooooooh the weary traveler.
Wait until you hear " FEEL THE THRILL OF THE VOOIIDDDDD!!!! "
@@CreateTacosIn3D Draws near the end of the path
POE has an odd relationship with 3rd party tools. The developers just go "The players made this tool that makes the game better? Cool, now we dont have to do it!" so they could add some support to make the tool easier to use (like the filters that used to be kinda annoying to add in the past) or just let it be.
These types on videos never say anything about customer support. In PoE it's just on whole different level. It's so good that they resolve issues in less than 1 hour. This one time i bought wrong mtx and emailed support if i could get a refund and not only did they gave me a refund for that mtx in points but they done so in less than 10minutes, which is crazy fast. Another time, a friend of mine bought wrong league supporter pack and emailed to support, they gave him a full refund for that supporter pack. I dont know any other games that would do anything like that. PoE customer support doesnt get enough credit.
Also, want to share my experience with Blizzard D4 customer support. So, recently i bought D4 and tried it for the very first time ever and in about 40minutes i get banned because i "Exploited game mechanics". When i made a ban appeal, customer support they said to wait for a whole day then after those 24 i waited they basically said "fuck you, we wont remove your ban". Then after 2 days i recieve an email stating that my ban was removed.
GGG customer support is one of the best ever. When I was a young shithead kid I would troll and annoy people and eventually I got banned. Then I wrote them a letter apologizing and asked to be unbanned and they wrote me back saying they forgive me, and promptly unbanned me
5:14 "I don't want anything to spoil my journey, I learn best when I take my time to understand the game"
See, that was your first mistake :))
LD stumbles upon the First Law of Path of Exile @8:50
This is still as relevant for me now on my 5th year, as it is for him on his second playthrough.
Seeing someone in global say "I'd rather stare at a powered off monitor than play d4" is really telling about how specifically tuned the game is to the community.
Extremely well-put-together video. Thanks for you thoughts, and I'm glad you finally jumped in. I think you already know, but...."beating" Path of Exile goes so...so....SO much further than the campaign. :D Even completing your Atlas is only one part of "endgame" - even beating the "uber uber" (yes, not just uber, but an even stronger version lol) pinnacle bosses are arguably the final "beating" you can do, which only the best builds can contend with.
But I hope you understand...you don't have to go that far to have fun. I've never beat the uber-uber pinnacle bosses in 10 years. I still have a blast every league. The game is just that good....that you don't have to "beat" it to keep coming back. There's always something new to try, to learn. Especially with new leagues every 3-4 months. It's just insane that this game is F2P, it absolutely puts all others to shame.
To summarize, lol:
The Journey, as you put it. Path of Exile is all about The Journey.
One of my mates got me into PoE with the new league recently and its definitely overwhelming to begin with but after about 5 or 6 hours i started to feel that RPG itch that i haven't felt in a while. Definitely requires some guidance to understand at first and Path of Building is a godsend.
34:29 - to give you an idea of the timeline - the current league mechanic with the town... we're building one of the early game towns in POE2. Kingsmarch will be part of POE2, minus the building and farming mechanics of course, the town will be built and established as a port/trade hub for quite a while when we first visit it in 2
Also one VERY important thing to mention: If you buy the $30 (300) or $60 (600) supporter pack you get equal amounts of Shop Coins to buy stashes or other cosmetics. Also you can buy the $30 supporter pack today and then a month later UPGRADE that Supporter pack and it has 3 tiers (up to $90) for 2 different styled supporter packs.
Also this game is like Eve Online... Spreadsheets Spreadsheets Everywhere!
You entered maps. They own your soul. Welcome
I think the premium stash tabs are priced fair and are required if you plan to play for an extended bit of time. I have 85. I will be buying more. I save a lot of items as a library for me to build off of and sell to others.
Best League of all time.
if you redo some passive points and find you don't have the stats to use your gear/gems, you can buy amulets that give you a big chunk of whichever stats you need from the vendors in town
You're literally playing my favorite online games one after another lol
"Poe allows you to to play it whenever you want" is exact reason why I keep returning after an almost 8 years since I fist time visited Wraeclast. I don't know how to craft perfect items or making my own build. I just want to choose a build that I like, slam some alchs on the map and kill everything there, hopefully getting shiny currency in return. I play this way for many years and I'm enjoying it vm. I love that I can make play this way and not feel like I'm limiting myself or forse myself to do something tedious. Kudos to GGG
My wife and I both absolutely love this game. We discovered it about the same time you did. We are so hooked. We both have to put in effort to remember to go to bed every night, and to resist buying all of the wild cosmetics. GGG nailed this.
Once you get really experienced with this game, you start to realize that it's actually rather easy in the campaign, as long as you get a few decent items and know what you're building, and eventually, you're clearing the whole campaign in a single marathon session to get to mapping.
Last Epoch is another relatively new game that has made great innovations in ARPGs, so much so that GGG has taken note and has made changes to POE2. While not FREE to play, LE has a one time box price and all store items are cosmetic only.
This is the best feedback from a new players experience ever. Genuinely makes me happy for you to speak on this and hear what we all feel for the game!
PoE's intro cinematic should be:
"Hi. I'm Chris Wilson, from Grinding Gear Games. And this, is Path of Exile" *gives camera the a double bird* "There's a lot more where that came from."
Dude same here!! This was my first league getting thru the campaign. In mapping focused on Delve, Incursion and and Heist and I’m LOVING it
If no one has said it, the MTX armor kits also give points equalling the price point of the set you bought
One thing about monetisation. In 2018 Tencent bought out GGG. Since then we had lootboxes and game pass added. They were trying also to create league mechanics and sell stash tabs for those (so typical "create the problem and sell the solution"), but backlash on that has made them back out of that.
Not only cash shop, but also gameplay itself is a constant tug-of-war between devs and community. There have been few large "shitstorms" in the history of the game. However, you can also see it another way. The devs actually care about the community's opinion and are willing to negotiate and look for consensus if something gets large enough backlash.
When was the last time a stash tab was sold for a league mechanic?
Hearing you talk about the new player experience in PoE reminds me of the similar thoughts you presented for Warframe.
Many people have laughed at my 10+ forma Wisp, but I genuinely thought early on that adding a D polarity for a Vitality Mod was what she needed.
Once I had a friend point out that her 1st ability grants health I had to grind for another forma so I could fix my mistake.
Confusion isn't a core mechanic in the early game of PoE or Warframe.
It's simply the price of admission.
I will say I have had the same experience as you. I tried playing a few years ago and eventually dropped it as it became a bit daunting. I started back up with the new season and I love it. I have already leveled 3 chars, and only recently took a break to try the new season of D4. I had zero issue paying for the stash tabs once I realized what an amazing game it is, because yeah, it was basically just like buying the game. The end game definitely feels more fleshed out that either D4 or LE, im looking forward to going back to it soon to see how people are getting the amazing gear I see posted in game chat.
I think you really hit the nail on the head about PoE. It falls a bit short on easing you into the mechanics, but once you get a little understanding it becomes so much more than other games. Its not for everyone but if it IS for you, its an amazing game.
I really feel like this is the experience many us now die hard fans went through. Start it, quit before finishing the first act and move on only to come back months or years later and eventually it starts to click
Worth watching a couple of interviews with the Devs they have so much passion for this game and it's sequel
Path of Exile is like taking Mushrooms...If you have a guide it becomes an enjoyable experience but ohh dare you trying it alone for the first time alone. You'll in for a ride!
Honestly a great breakdown, 5k hours and you gave me a bit of a new perspective on this game. Thank you for taking the time to understand it and give it a full chance :)
I died inside when he went top-left on the beach
I think its worth mentioning that the supporter packs come WITH their value in micro transaction currency, so you can use that to buy the stash tabs, and also get some sick armor and extras while doing so within the aforementioned packs. They are the BEST way to support the game if you are enjoying it, hands down.
For anyone debating, Stash tabs usually go on sale over certain weekends. You can get as many stash tabs as you'll ever need for like 15 dollars. maybe 30 when its not a sale. I think that is such a fair price point compared to my 1450 hours (which is relatively low for PoE players). I have more than ill ever need, so I've actually bought supporter packs not because the mtx i HAVE to have, but because I just want to support them. The supporter packs are also nice that if you pay 60 dollars, you get all the MTX's and 60 dollars worth of coins. So you are getting "120 dollars value". which sounds like a meme but what other game would give you the mtxs and the equivalent currency.
You're right about PoE players. I spent over 20 hours prepping for this last league launch. Reading/watching guides, reading patch notes and doing multiple test runs on my planned build
I have been playing this game for a long time... and really enjoyed your video... it is a fresh perspective and a reminder of the many things that I value about the game. I appreciate your honest reactions and look forward to your reviews of other games that I have not tried yet.
its me, it's the essayist, I love PoE, ten years now lol.
you don't have to go all in on being a hardcore researcher, if you can follow a build guide [and] that build guide is well written, you can not know what the hell is going on, and clear all the way into endgame. There are builds and progression trains that people have laid out you can follow all the way to uber tier content. Finding those builds is a skill though, because capability of build is a spectrum for sure. Usually you need to jump into a full meta hype build.
To play this game you have to follow a guide, because the builds you can do require PHD's in POE to understand since the game has so many systems its designed around you using, and the game is balanced around you using all of them.
In mapping, even if you give yourself 7k health and basically immunity to damage entirely with 90% resists and maxed armour and phys converted to elemental and 3k health regen and and and and you still get one shot. You need to give yourself millions of dps.
You basically didn't even start the game according to most poe players. And you will need to buy all the stash tabs, playing this game without even the currency stash tab sounds impossible if you want to play the game when it actually starts, T16 mapping. Act 10 is just you are 50% through the games tutorial.
I'm approaching 10k hours and It's very interesting to hear opinions from someone like you who's just getting into it, hope you enjoy it. I've had friends who were able to figure out most of Poe in 1-2 leagues of playtime. There's a lot of depth but also once you learn how mechanics tend to work you build up an intuition for them
The first time I ever played the game, the first thing I did was use the search bar in the passive tree to search for minion and zombie passives. Once I saw it had those for a necromancer build? It was over for my free time.
My experience was starting blind and just going with it. Bricked my witch by Act3, trying to do too much without understanding how stuff worked. So I looked up a few wiki pages, learned that half the stuff I tried wouldn't work because of some non- or counter-interaction. Changed out some support gems, simplified my skillset, and moved deep into Merciless mode before hitting the wall due to a poorly-performing laptop. A serious desktop upgrade and 2600 hours later, I find joy in off-meta builds that don't rely on specific gear, and can typically avoid hitting the wall til T8-10 maps.
A lot of this is because the game keeps evolving, usually for the better, and this makes me want to come back to it time and time again, to try new things for the sake of trying them. While most people won't play Ground Slam necromancer, it's simple and efficient, with the very cathartic rhythm of hitting the ground with a heavy weapon and helping my minions with the damage output. Is it T16 viable? Probably not, at least not without a very specific gear setup that will likely be impossible to use due to stat requirements. Is it fun? Hell yeah.
One thing GGG got good about is making the game easier to understand. These days, when you want to socket a skill gem, there is a pop-up which lets you know whether or not a support gem will work with a specific skill gem or not, which came out in the last year or two, plus the accesible database which goes over a lot of concepts.
The builds I've made for my characters in PoE are ones that I have built upon myself from league to league to league, no guides and many mistakes. It's been wonderful to workshop and iterate on my personal style over time from season to season.