Overwatch 2: From a titan to its own poor imitation
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- čas přidán 2. 05. 2024
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How has your experience been with the new OW2 season so far. I honestly have too many games to play so the last time I played was for this video.
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Music used in this video:
The Emperor's Army by Jeremy Blake from the CZcams Audio Library
Paladins - Menu Music
Dirtmouth by Christopher Larkin from Hollowknight OST
Field of Hopes and Dreams by Toby Fox from Deltarune OST
Retrograde by Ridiculon from The end is nigh OST
Hotel by Toby Fox from Undertale OST
Rocket RIder by Danny Baranowsky from Super meat boy OST
Blue Mood - Robert Munzinger
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:56 Enter Paladins
02:29 OW2's slow fall
03:53 Part 1: Healing
05:42 Part 2: Health
06:46 Junkrat V Dredge
08:45 Part 3: Hitboxes
09:44 Part 4: Afterwords
11:13 My personal opinions
12:09 Outro - Hry
Guys tis video just keeps getting vioewed.
I can't believe it at this point.
Thank you so much.
I made a video talking about moving forward.
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"heroes of the storm i wonder if that game is still going"
sounds like league and hots are next to me
I'd say the very first step of paladins-ification was when blizzard changed hanzos abilities to Sha Lins
Your little doodles of the characters are adorable
I try my best. Glad you like them.
Also let's not forget, before the health changes in overwatch, snipers would be obnoxious to go against, while in paladins snipers I believe were never meta, and we only have 2 snipers in the roster of over 50 charscters
Strix was cool but I had bad aim :(
Strix got meta one time
Because of the talent that make the flare gun a fireball mage😅
And now the Overwatch community is trying to deal with healing reduction debuffs.
*LAUGHS IN CAUT 3*
It's a real shame how paladins doesnt have as much ressources as aaa companies. The dev put so much care and tought into the game, they listen to their community much more then overwatch ever did. There is new seasons every 3 months with new and fresh original content. The caracters are getting more enjoyable and polish every updates. The item shop, the loadout and the talent system still is really original, fun and unique. The anti-healing mechanic, putting a concept of early to late game make every match feel even more different. You have to adapt more, to strategize what items you are going to buy against different comps, champion, playstyle, etc. What loadout is better, like do you need more health or speed or dr or some unique effect a single card can give. In my opinion, it tends to be more enjoyable than just switching to counters every game... Also, the mouvement implanted into the game leaves room for great and exciting caracters like evie, bomb king, ruckus and so many others ! Don't get me wrong, i like overwatch too and find myself enjoying it pretty often. But i feel like overwatch 2 might be the sign to try new things and give little games, like paladins (despite it's unpolished design) a chance. I've never enjoyed a game the way i enjoyed paladins because i tried it not thinking it was just an "overwatch rip off", or stopping myself to the flaws of it, or it's bad reputation. I play paladins for what it is: a remarquable, unique, fun game. ( Sorry for the bad english, it's not my first language).
also, mauga is literally just raum, only the ult and the fact he has 2 miniguns instead of 1, did blizzard really just copy it????
I totally forgot about him. You've got a point.
Not really. Mauga was introduced in a comic/story thing involving baptistes story. People have been begging for him to be in the game since like 2018, plus mauga is a Talon member. And he's one of the marauders that have 2 miniguns in the OW1 story missions. Mauga is not a copy. You are just finding coincidences
@thegreatterlik953 Also I will mention that overwatch had gone and reduced almost all the hit boxes (except a few) to where they were before season 9 as of today and another smaller patch before this one.
That's fair, but I can't really find any information about it. When I search for hotbox info it's all about the season 9 change. If you have a link to the exact patch notes it'll be greatly appreciated and if not I'll take your word for it. I've been in and out of playing overwatch so much these days that I can't really say I've kept up with everything.
@@DrGSTgameplay wise not visual plus Mauga was original gonna come in 2018 but they didn’t feel like the kit worked out so sigma was given it
other thing to point out: even tho the Paladins open beta came out months after OW, Paladins already had closed alphas and closed betas back in 2015, it was a different game back then yes but most of the content was already there.
i watched a video of an alpha version and nando, meave and skye were already in the game .
i know its them because one used a shield, another had a dash and the last one became invisible
Paladins beta came out in 2018 and overwatch came out in 2016 and started developing in 2014
@@DingleTingle911 UMM no, paladins beta did not came out in 2018...
@@whisperwoods2203 mb I meant fully come out
@@whisperwoods2203maeve was not added until ob 43. You mean evie?
*We all feel into his trap.*
_Well played, Terlik._
Honestly you should do a video essay on why paladins mechanic worked better for it than Overwatch, how Overwatch 2 failed to balance the game base on the tank meta from Overwatch 1, and balance nightmare of OVerwatch 2 tanks and healers
Very well structured and intelligent! I personally found it insightful as someone who has bounced back and forth between both Hero Shooters, only to settle on Paladins in recent years as my favored game. Overwatch is fine, but as a casual player, Overwatch seems so daunting and trivial at times with big-downtime between the action. It's very funny to see that the Overwatch community simultaneously hates Paladins, and yet also deems their game a dumpster fire.
One thing I think would have made the video slightly better is the intro, while it hooked me, I felt the introduction to Paladins bit was a bit downplayed by how long it took with only the Paladins music playing.
Hugely underrated channel! Love your doodles, very adorable! Take my sub!
How the hell do u only have 144 subs this is one of the best videos ive seen as of recent pls keep up the work
Thisnis gonna blow up, i know it is.
Because this came into my recommendations.
I think Overwatch 2 could add a speedboost when leaving spawn while the objective is a certain distance away. Though I think they should increase the respawn times to balance it out.
Regarding healing in both games, but especially in Paladins, I've never understood why there is a cauterize when they could've just reduced healing globally.
they tried reducing healing in paladins and that didn't feel good
@@Luiene This was never tried, they made dps 10% faster in the beta for ow2, then for season 1 dps went 10% faster after a kill but people complained that the speed boost would throw off their aim.
Speedboost on at the start of the match could work but rollouts are a big part of movement heroes like lucio,doomfist ball so having a speedboost could remove this form of skill expression and after testing faster respawns before we already know that dead players coming back too fast ruins the flow of team fights.
@@lilwintery6434 was talking about paladins
@@Luiene before the edit you mentioned they tried a speed boost in overwatch
@@lilwintery6434 no that's wrong I didn't say anything about overwatch 2 or even paladins as I didn't clarify however I never mentioned anything about speed boosting in overwatch
Love the math stuff(sin, cos , R) in the character's eyes
I'm so happy someone noticed. What can I say. There is a reason I study maths in uni.
Honestly, I can't trust Blizzard to make anything good anymore. They messed up a good thing they had going, and got extremely greedy. Arrowhead Games did the complete opposite with Helldivers 2, making everything available without having to worry about FOMO or locking things behind battle passes. You can get everything in the game without having to spend any additional money as long as you grind enough to get them.
Luckily enough overwatch is healing because it isn’t owned by blizzard anymore
paladins died for true support players when they added that ass passive
and overwatch did the same thing
no the fuck it didnt its the exact same because before the passive everyone would just buy cauterise anyway
@@nametagmc7935 cauterize the item didn't scale up to 90%
@@ghostlyashley6195it did for most of paladins history. 75% caut was so unhealthy, also caut is just another way supports can show skill expression, if you hate it then id suggest trying to learn support
@@umphopod2919 "skill expression" isn't always about doing damage especially in role based games, yours and many others' bias against people who wanna play healer to heal and help teammates is something that only comes from being incapable of killing/focusing well without extra help from the game, so stop fucking crying, damage is already always the strongest role in any moba
@@umphopod2919 league of legends tried this aids approach to "supporting" and realized it was shit so within less than a season they bumped all ani healing down again, and it keeps being billions of times more successful than paladins, idk what to tell you
For the longest time, me and the boys always played Paladins even though we all owned overwatch cause it never had crossplay (until way after, and most people had moved to pc by the time everyone wanted to play overwatch again) Yes there were some really rough times with Paladins (azaan release made us quit for over a year) but I can say most of us enjoyed the game a lot more then overwatch, I just wish Hi-Rez cared more about it too
Don’t forget OW2 is free to play 😱
Paladins also doesnt have the big caveat of being a blizzard game.
like and sub
you deserve it
don't give up
12:05 As a HotS player, it is still "alive" but has been entirely abandoned by blizz, a shame, since I think they had a real good thing going with this.
Truly spitting you're just speaking facts
Thank you. Glad you agree.
good luck on the beginning of your youtube carrer.
Paladins is very different from Overwatch and was always different. No switching heroes mid-game, items and bigger maps.
What a great video to be honest! So happy I found your channel, your drawings are really cute!
(If I could make a small request, in future videos can you change the bright white background to something a little darker, its just a little jarring to go from gameplay to a flash-bang)
Thank you. Btw I totally agree about the white. Tbh when I draw I have my background set to grey not white so even I don't really know why I set it to white. 😅
I have followed overwatch for a. Sad amount of time in my life. And from 2016-2018 I practically played it non stop. Then it just stopped getting any meaningful content and was so dull. But hey not long after overwatch 2 was announced. And they had YEARS to work on it. So like I was super excited for it. And after we got echo then got. Literally nothing for ages. I wasn't too upset since overwatch 2 is coming! They must be putting all their work towards it. Then after years and years of them working on it non stop. Beta dropped. I got in the beta and uh. It was overwatch.? Nothing different. Same maps..same everything but now with 2 new heroes. But it was only a beta so I didn't think much of it. Then the game actually came out.
I cannot express how disappointed I was. 3 new heroes. 1 new gamemode. No PROMISED story mode. No new content.
I was talking to my friend about it when it happened. And my exact way of describing overwatch 2 was
There's less content in this whole game they've worked on for years. Than a single Fortnite season.
It was just sad. All these years for nothing basically. But hey now lootboxes are gone and to get any skins you have to give blizzard all your life savings.
What a great change...
And I've periodically been playing it still. Checking on it throughout the seasons.
And getting nothing basically. Maybe a new game mode once a season in the arcade which 9 times out of 10 are a play once never touch again.
Then the overwatch grand story mode thing dropped. The missions. Jesus Christ. How disappointing. It was literally just an event. Like uprising from overwatch 1. I did them all once and have never felt like I wanna do it again.
Overwatch 2 is really just. Overwatch but less.
But hey. At least we get a hero every 2 seasons :)
That's just something I wanted to share. Just the disappointment of overwatch 2.
8 years of this game existing. And it has hardly improved minus new heroes and now bastion is a car
Honestly, my story is almost the same. From 2018 to 2020 I played it almost nonstop until it just stopped updating. By the time overwatch 2's beta came out I just didn't care. I've played it here and there but not often.
On the other hand I had the exact opposite experience from Paladins. In the beginning I wasn't the biggest fan of the game since overwatch had made me snobbish. However paladins never stopped updating and most updates were for the better. In general Paladins was never disappointing the way Overwatch was.
That's probably why I play it more often nowadays.
@@thegreatterlik953 I did play paladins when it came out. Since new overwatch like game sure.
Me and my friends all got it since it's free. Honestly was fun. Getting a change of pace but also a sense of familiarity. Played it for a few weeks but eventually went back to overwatch.
We did try paladins again like. 3-4 months ago. But. Something about the combat felt too weightless and floaty. Like I played the characters I played years ago. Pip and bomb king but I just couldn't get into how the game felt.
But. It has a reallyyy satisfying kill sound effect.
@@thegreatterlik953 oppositefor me, dropped paladins for ow2, i can't keep putting up with the game in it's current state and ow feels more refreshing and polished for me
going back to paladins after a long time the movement feels floaty and the weapons/abilities just don't feel as kinetic or impactful, like the with new hero venture something about their drills dash just feelsl ike im actually being pulled by a drill instead of just being some generic dash ability
i still play paladins just not as much
OW2 is still a titan and a generally better game compared to Paladins.
Only reason why cause of blizzard money that is all and there is more complaints on ow2 then paladins
.ever streamer who try paladins has fun unless they just think overwatch overwatch overwatch overwatch
i think paladins would have been bigger if hi rez actually tried to make it a good polished game but that studio is known for doing the exact opposite lmao
the only reason paladins doesnt get much flak its because in comparison to other games is barely known and for many years it was just named a "rip off"
paladins has so much bugs that theyre not fixable at all unless a huge revamp is made and that alone would consume more time and money than the time and money lost in the scrapped ow2 pve LOL
ok but if you want to be taken seriusly by overwatch player, never call a support a "healer" again.
Whilst yes you cant say paladins was only created to copy overwatch...they did take alot of the ideas and charaters
a lot of the ideas and characters? i mean.... in paladins theres like 5 characters that are very similar to ow and then there's the other 53 characthers that are nothing like ow, and payload was nothing like the one in overwatch too... so wdym they took ideas?
@@whisperwoods2203 I mean they very much did tho, at least in the beginning, you can't tell me otherwise which isn't a bad thing
@@shafikkrisoondatt4002 💀💀
paladins was FAR more different to overwatch at their beginning... physics were different, gameplay and gamemodes were different... even the 3 characters that had something "similar" to the ones in overwatch were played very differently.......
the only thing i can say paladins took from overwatch is that they made their huge maps smaller and more like the ones in overwatch, but that's it.
@@whisperwoods2203 i would care to disagree but hey your free to your opinion
Overwatch copied them
Once again, Overwatch 2 is FAR from being a dead game. A game that can get you in a match in less than 4-5 minutes is not dead, or dying. Look at Titanfall 2 instead, with queues ranging from 30 minutes to 2 hours. Now that is a dead game.
Overwatch won't die for a few more years for sure
"Overwatch won't die for a few more years for sure"
What do you mean, by your own logic it died October 4, 2022 since it became impossible to ever find a match again. If you are talking about the pathetic excuse for a sequel it depends how you define dead, normally when people say a game is dead it just means the updates are lacking, theres nothing to do, the game fell off, its boring etc, most of which applies to ow2 for a large portion of the community. Titanfall isnt dead either, atleast not compared to an actual dead game like overwatch, I'm sure it has a lot of community that still enjoy the game, you just happen to be coping for ow2 instead of titanfall 2
Isn't titanfall 1 still playable alongside titanfall 2? And you want to say its a dead game but overwatch isn't?
@@ironman1458 A telltale sign of a dead game, is that its not receiving updates anymore. Titanfall 2 is a prime example, meanwhile overwatch still has an active playerbase, and the devs are updating it (whether if these are good or bad updates, it doesn't really matter, as long as enough people keep playing it, it won't be dead)
The defnition of a dead game, is like a said, a game that is pretty much abandoned, no idea who you talked to that told you overwatch is a dead game, but it's mostly just anger and frustration speaking out of them, instead of reason and logic
@@pwpqwq7648 Tf2 isnt getting any updates for over 4 years yet the community is still alive.
@@kiwidood1706 Good for them I guess
Hey a least Paladins IS Fun xd
Paladins problems at least come from small team and budget and some incompetence.... Meanwhile ow2 IS ALL incompetence from devs and execs
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How do you have only 12 followers ??
Thank you for the sentiment. Tho let's be honest, I have neither uploaded enough amount nor frequency wise to have many subs. Still I appreciate the kindness.
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Mounts can't be in Overwatch cos it would feel weird/out of place. TF2 doeesn't have mounts. COD smalller maps have no mounts etc
I'd say Paladins definitely does some things right that Blizzard would be too scared to do but thats just cause they have NOTHING to lose lmfao. In every aspect paladins is just worse overwatch, I still play and enjoy paladins but theres no arguing that fact. There isnt a single Champion design in that game that is even close to the quality of an Overwatch Hero, they make up for some of it with lots of customization and a lot more Characters but it does not compare at the end of the day and their playercount proves that.
Paladins was in development before ow itslef. Paladins is not an imitation of overwatch itself in the cover ofc you can say its a clone but it is very different from ow, im a paladins player turned to ow2. Paladins had very big potential to be better than ow but the original devs had to leave and the new devs fked it up. The sea region is almost unplayable for 4 years till now..
Both are imitations of TF2
Its free so...
Overwatch used to be great but it has aged like milk. It’s truly terrible now
The PvE was a mistake from the start.
Overwatch is decidedly moving in the direction of competitive games, and if thats not what you like, go back to playing Helldivers.
Overwatch 2 has enough changes to deserve the "2", especially now in Season 9.
5v5 a massive change Macro and Micro wise.
9 new heroes.
Passive and hitbox changes.
Transition to F2P model.
"Why my Orange doesnt taste like Apple? Blizzard sucks ass. My Orange is Dead!! Why anybody would like Orange if it doesnt taste like Apple"
Watched all of the video, youre delusional
They rewrote the entire engine and then rebuilt the entire game in the new engine.
Overwatch has literally been trying to be a competative game since its inception. Its literally just a worse game now and most of those changes very easily would have just slotted into OW1. Its literally just a 2 in name only, even less changes than a cod sequel. Plus most of the changes were just because of the tank queues being awful because they made the role unfun, which didnt even work because now the tank queues are getting to a similar level of bad WITH ONE LESS PLAYER because of how horrendous the role feels now. 9 new heroes doesnt even mean much when some of them were literally intended for OW1 and OW1 itself was already getting heroes until they started backing off to make the PvE stuff. F2P also isnt really much to justify it being a "2" considering literally the game that inspired it, tf2, never had to make a sequel to be F2P.
The sequel stuff was just a marketing gimmic plain and simple because horrible conditions at and the changing landscape of activision blizzard king screwed over the OW team immensely along with blizzard as a whole. That entire section of the company is a shell of its self.
Well this was a waste of time lmao.
I have vague memories about paladins from like 2017 or something like that, i had a potato pc and i barely remember anything. But nonetheless overwatch feels like the best hero shooter out there
Never could get into Overwatch. Always felt too slow paced compared to Paladins with champions like Maeve.
And obviously, OW doesn't have Io
if u think pve killed overwatch then u did not play ow1 for long enough. this games been dying for years, ow2 was just an awful ressurection of what excited us as players at the release of ow1. i wish paladins was the one to be in the spotlight since blizzard did not deserve it.
Heavily under rated youtube. This was an amazing video and the style in which you draw each hero is so cool and cute. Keep up the great work man, I'm excited for what you make next.
Thank you.
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Thank you so much.